Lucy Kitten

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  4. Posted

    On 10/8/2018 at 9:38 AM, Mike940370 said:

    I pondered starting a new thread for this but I decided to ask here.  Hope the Op does'nt mind.

    I'd like to ask a question only for the ladies.  I have no attraction to men, so this is not a question for you guys so save your flame thrower plz.

    If a lady only posts an hourly rate, is it rude or insulting to ask if she offers a HH or QV rate? Thanks and I will heed your opinions

    Yes it is, it's not listed for a reason and the reason isn't so that you can ask but because those options don't exist. 

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  5. Posted

    28 minutes ago, JRWolfe said:

    There are a number of female porn stars that enjoy doing Cosplay at the San Diego and other comic cons. They usually wear the outfits from the various parodies they acted in. Don't know if any are coming to the Denver or the Estes Park Comic Cons this year. If you wish,I could inquire. (btw,check out the lineup for Estes Park ,better than Denver )

    Not even close! The lineup for Denver is way better, Jason Mamoa, Alan Tudyk, Andrew McCarthy, The PInk Power Ranger, David Tennant, Molly Ringwald, Ron Perlman, GoT cast members. 

    Skanky outfits are no longer allowed at Denver Comic Con either, comic con isn't a porn convention. 

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  6. Posted

    9 hours ago, Bravo1 said:

    I think good quality photos that are recent is important.  Don't have to be professionally taken but clear, well-lit photos that are in focus go a long way for me and if you have the talent get a little artistic with your photos.  You are marketing yourself and a selfie in the bathroom doesn't do it.  I think the providers who understand this and invest in marketing themselves properly really says something.  Also, a well written ad without grammar errors and where it sounds like you are educated.

    Photos are of course important but I think you misunderstood the question. What sort of research do you do when picking a provider and what criteria (aside from physical) must they meet before you book? 

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  7. Posted

    1 hour ago, SultryKitten said:

    For me, what I look for in clients is mostly in how they treat me. I want to hear them say hi, introduce themselves, be able to have an intellectual conversation, playful banter, make me laugh, have a nice cock(yes, a good cock can turn me on...and I don't mean a big one), is clean, is respectful, kind and thoughtful, prompt, listens to directions, wants to know what pleases me(even if I want to just please you, it is nice to know you are thinking of my needs too), and wants to have fun.

    You quickly go up on my list with these things. You go down on my list, if you just lay there(booooring), overstay my welcome, dirty, continually late, haggle, say you want to please, but don't listen when I tell you what I like, insult my craft even though you gush about how highly reviewed I am with it, rarely talks or acts like I am just there to have my mouth permanently on you, and work me to the bone for little pay. I know this one is honest, but us ladies do keep tabs on what we like and don't like. I am a pretty resilient lady, but even I have my limits.

    If you have been in this biz as long as I have( I know others that have been in longer),  you tend to get pickier and want to enjoy the time more with someone that is compatible to you. Whereas when you start, you are still figuring things out and taking business to build your portfolio, so to speak. I just know what annoys me, stresses me out, and I don't want to deal with it anymore. I am much happier that way.

    xoxo,

    Samantha Sheppard

    That wasn't really what I meant but good reply anyways. What do you do as a provider to keep your web presence fresh and consistent? How do you project all that you just said to your clients? Like, I like to use my website for both information and specialized marketing and I like Twitter to share my interests. It's in those ways that I filter out my ideal clients without being blunt or seeming exclusionary (which I don't want to do anyways). 

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  8. Posted

    13 hours ago, FuriousWeasel said:

    Almost a "point system".  Everything adds up.

    Website that looks good and well maintained?  5 points.  Website that's out of date?  2 or 3 points.

    Twitter that's active?  5 points.  Fairly inactive?  1 point.

    Good interaction on forums?  Good reviews?  Donation amounts that are pretty consistent across all sources?  All those good points add up.  If there's a bad review, is there a well written rebuttal

    I want to see photos that look like you're a professional who cares about your brand, not selfies that make me think you decided to escort 20 minutes before.  And definitely not selfies that make me think you're trying to attract 17 year old boy band members.

     

    Here's my thing with photos, I have hated every singe pro shoot I've had. I have yet to meet a photographer that knows how to showcase full-figured bodies. I like my selfies because I know my best angles and those are the photos that make me feel sexy. I do like to see good pro photos myself but I know as the person who has to advertise those photos if you're uncomfortable with them it comes with a lack of confidence. 

    Back on topic, these are the answers I was looking for. With the deciding to walk thread and the "horror" stories of bait and switch it made me curious as to what metric clients use to decide on a provider. Looking at the replies it looks like some clients need to beef up on their research skills. I think it's also time to expand as times have changed. I think if a provider doesn't have a presence outside of reviews and ads then maybe take a pass. 

    I can't lie, it's also a passive aggressive attempt to get local ladies to step up their game a bit. If you're not a survivalist sex worker then you should be investing in your business. If this is your sole source of income then you should at minimum have a website. It can be difficult and expensive but there are lots of tools out there and more and more services being offered by fellow people in the industry. 

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  9. Posted

    4 hours ago, Nookiemonster4u said:

    Myself. I have to say ....I'm pretty shallow about that.....looks are my first attraction. I look at reviews mainly for information on Services..... rate and how other clients have got along with her. But then again reviews or so so much based on one person's perspective they're pretty much unreliable

    Attraction is obvious but do you vet providers based on looks? 

    The shift in perspective comes when you know what it is your looking for and what ways you can find it out. Yes reviews are helpful but it's information about us providers that doesn't come from us. Personally I think there should be a balance in the information you collect, some should be from fellow clients and the rest from the provider herself. See if the information contradicts itself. If reviews say a provider is bubbly does her online presence match?

    Since it seems you travel far to meet providers I would guess you put more effort into the research. Don't just research validity, research compatibility. You like her pics but do you like her ads? If she has a website does it appeal to you?  Does she have  twitter or a blog?  The best encounters come from those that do that kind of research.

    It might also be worth considering taking a pass on a provider if she doesn't have any sort of web presence beyond reviews. I would think it's hard to get a feel from a person when the don't offer a lot of insight to who they are and what their business is about. 

    When you refine your searches and up your standards (not that they're low by any means) in your research criteria you will have amazing appointments every time. 

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  10. Posted

    4 minutes ago, Nookiemonster4u said:

    Well on the client side..there are only a few reference spots...this site is a wealth of info. And there are the three members only review sites but they don't offer non members much help....and. Sexy Gorilla is a good a source .... along with just Googling the phone number or picture. There's not much more we have, just hope for the best

    I think you need a shift in perspective, there are a ton of good resources but it depends on the information you're looking for. What information are you looking for before you book?

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  11. Posted

    27 minutes ago, mustang said:

    I look for P411 and Reviews.  I also check the veracity of the reviewers.  The age of the reviews are considered, but more than that, the "reputation" of the reviewer weighs heavy.  10 reviews by prolific reviewers goes further than 20 reviews by one time reviewers.

     

    Nothing really beyond that? No websites? I know there have been times that one off reviewers have been self reviews but so very many are legitimate. Traveling guys will often post one off reviews because this is the local site. Personally I think prolific reviewers can be iffy too. I would imagine the guys that write copy and paste glowing reviews for everyone make it more complicated. 

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  12. Posted

    Potential clients what's in your toolbox when searching a prospective provider and what criteria do you like them to meet before booking?  Do they have to have a website? Reviews within a certain time frame? Do you look for any sort of web presence? I want to hear what you use to verify your providers not just for validity but compatibility.

    Providers, the reverse question. What do you do to keep your presence fresh? 

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  14. Posted

    9 hours ago, codeman said:

    I was shocked  because San Francisco is so huge! Does anybody know why Colorado in particular is so active? I've loved the bay area ever since I went on vacation there in 2010. I got to see Alcatraz. There's a lot of ghosts there... Be safe and have fun  

    TOB started as a just for CO forum and transformed into a nationwide site but didn't really catch on. Most sites are regional. 

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  15. Posted

    8 hours ago, gr8owl said:

    Yes, consistent honest reviews MIGHT put a dent in the problem.  But that is a group action.  And there is a steady stream of new clients that have no idea about this board or reviews.  One individual cannot be effective with just a review approach.  Leave immediately and take all his money with him has an immediate and obvious financial impact and is something the individual CAN do to great effect upon one at a time.  And I would clarify to say that my opinion has become I SHOULD walk away in the described circumstance, the reality is I never have so far.  Why? Because at the time I decided I had no idea how badly she may need the money.  Fool perhaps.  Then again, really enjoyed one visit despite the deception - she had other tricks to float the boat, but generally I am too visually motivated when it is only about sex and not looking for longer term interactions.

    But that's the thing it's not just an individual thing. If it was just occasionally that guys felt deceived I wouldn't think this was that big of a problem. Learning has to happen from all angles. Clients need to recognize when they are judging too harshly and be kind when pointing it out and providers need to understand honesty in advertising. 

    Walking out on someone and taking all your cash TBH only makes you look like a dick, especially like I stated when clients walk out and don't really say why. You walk out leaving someone short on cash and the impact isn't what you think. It's punitive not constructive. Walking out and taking money with you to me raises a whole lot of other issues too. There isn't much that's more stress inducing to give your location to a client to have them show up and leave. Doesn't honestly matter the reason why, extra stressful again if they don't really give a reason. There isn't an excuse that these guys haven't used to harass us. There are address collectors, bullies and stalkers and they've all used the you don't look like your pictures line to try and be manipulative. 

    Clients have got to own their part when things go south, this is a common problem. Again deception is a problem but too many guys think with the little head and make choices based on that while ignoring the resources available. Shit behavior is never excusable but if I get lazy with screening and an asshole slips through I have to own my part in that and do better in the future. 

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  16. Posted

    16 hours ago, gr8owl said:

    Directed at whole thread not you BB:

    This bash BP, blame influx of heathens, and "your perception of her appearance may be wrong" claims(really???) are all besides the point and inaccurate.  The OP was pretty clear that the pics and reality were big time and clearly not consistent.  That is a form of bait and switch and is bull shit.  At a minimum, we should indeed walk when that happens.  I can recall without thinking too hard of 4 ladies that fit this description - old pics that showed them at a time at LEAST 30 to up to 60 or 70 pounds lighter than current - not perception, fact.  Of the 4, 3 were p411 (and still are - 2 still using same pics lol).  Of the 4 one does not allow reviews and 3 had a ton (and recent ones saying "pics accurate" How to anyone other than a blind man???).  On the hand, I can distinctly remember 3 ladies who were precisely as they looked in their very recent pics.  All three advertised only BP when I met them, two have since become p411.  And two have become long term regulars - hmmmmm, coincidence???  My point is reviews and membership here or anywhere DOES NOT guarantee anything.  Only careful research (and helping each other on 411"s) improve your odds greatly and even that is not fool proof.

    But to OP - I agree man - WALK!!!

    *shrugs* when the OP decided to insult the appearance of someone's breasts after surgery is when he lost credibility. DDs are not huge boobs, that is a weird societal thing that makes us think they're big. Most women getting reductions are going from a DD to a B. Most are women who G cups and larger going down to DDs. There is inaccuracy in advertising all the time but some is acceptable and some isn't. There is a lady around here with great breasts and she advertised as like a 40DD or DDD. I met her person, took one look and told her she was in the wrong size and I was right. Her actual size is a G but that's really meaningless to most guys. I don't have much faith in guys who don't understand boobs as accurate judges of weight either. Unless you have put someone on the scale and know exactly what they weighed when pics were taken then it is perception, a guess. As someone who has fluctuated over my years in business I can tell you perception is weird.  

    I wouldn't disagree that misrepresentation is problem, but walking out on ladies doesn't fix it. It doesn't hold us providers accountable in the right way. I had a dude walk out me because he said he was allergic to cats only to write an "honest" review about how he didn't like my appearance. It wasn't helpful and made the guy look like kind of a dick. What would have been helpful was telling me to my face. The sharing of information via reviews is how we should be held accountable. As you already stated nothing is fool proof but we can only use the tools that we have. So we have to encourage providers to be more honest in advertising but we have to ask clients to do their part with honest reporting. 

    Reputable ladies that use old pics but still get great reviews are a topic for another discussion but closely related to this one. 

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  17. Posted

    Get a fucking vaporizer like I told you to! Suck on lemons, drink lots of hot tea, eucalyptus for the shower. Stay hydrated, force a little food down now and then. If symptoms continue or get worse go back to the doctor and make sure you don't have pneumonia. 

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  18. Posted

    2 hours ago, gb0138 said:

    If only it was makeup and clothes. 30 extra pounds, DD becomes a B. 

    Did you ask or just assume? You know DDs aren't that big right? It's a pretty average sized boobage. Reductions leave pretty nasty scars that you can't do much about Pretty harsh of you.

    Deception in this business is never a good thing but there is a difference between actual deception and feeling deceived because the person you see doesn't match the image you imagine. I have guys get upset because my hair color didn't match as if I somehow control the light, they saw blonde I don't advertise blonde I'm really not blonde but that is what they're eyes see. I have guys get mad because I am the wrong type of fat for them. There are some standards that clients set that are just impossible. 

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  20. Posted

    A question more for the clients. 

    Guys have you ever booked with a certain provider because they remind you of someone you know? Not like a movie star but more like an old girlfriend? If you have what was the reasoning and did you tell the provider that they reminded you of someone? 

    I had an interesting experience over the weekend, I found out in a round about sort of way that I looked like an ex of a long time client. The client himself had never told me that and I felt like I was told a secret. It was just sort awkward.  So now I want to hear other similar stories. 

    The reasons people do what they do are fascinating. To be honest while it was awkward it was also kind of sweet to find out. Maybe it's a little weird and maybe a little unhealthy but that's the kind of fantasy I like to fulfill. 

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