Yogi

I wonder if their might be room for a separate forum (like the "411") where provider-friendly folks could respond to requests from providers, but not necessarily post ads. (Just making this up as I type) Perhaps, the provider in need could PM whoever responds to the website/photo/lawyer/carpenter/mechanic/accountant request in that forum. I've often wanted to see if a fair, mutually beneficial barter / "exchange of services" system could be established between providers and clients. There are some trust issues involved, but I imagine no different than those already in effect. With references and some examples of work, things could work out. If it turns into a dumpster fire, just close the forum.

After the fourth one, you can get a free sundae at Dairy Queen....

I read it that she's raising two separate issues. She did take responsibility -- to a degree -- about the mass text (blamed the phone.) Then followed by complaining that the client wrote a inaccurate and negative review. That said, I think I would agree it comes off as "Yeah, I messed up, but that guy's a jerk" false equivalency. A better way to handle it (and I only play a Provider on TOB...) would have been to place an ad or a discrete posting about "So happy to be back in Denver..." and submit a rebuttal inline with the review (I've seen providers do that.) What we should all take from this is: have a burner phone or app (Burner for iPhone is great) and a throw-away email (I like Outlook.com). Mystery solved!

Have you asked them why? They might have a concern that you can address and if not, at least you'll know why.

http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/11/la-nina-has-returned-and-now-the-us-might-actually-get-some-winter/ It may be on the way.

I guess it depends heavily upon who is waiting at the end of the drive. (In Abigail's case, north south east west, it is worth the travel.) If you're booking a one-time visit, then parking and logistics start have more consideration. I will admit to considering location in those cases. But, if there is someone I was super curious about, that didn't matter. Sadly, I'm now a very "low volume" client and so who am seeing is ultimately the decider rather than location or such. (Not that other logistics don't factor into it, just that the top line item.)

Others mentioned that "mutual enjoyment" is important and I agree. I think "pleasure/enjoyment" for a provider can be vastly different than for a client. She'll potentially have multiple opportunities in a week, I'm lucky to have multiple opportunities in a year. So an orgasm has different value to each side. I try to keep in mind that being on-time, respectful, clean and easy-going could provide a a great deal of enjoyment for her, if she's had a day or week where that's been missing. (Based on providers complaints about the job, that seems to be a common thing.) In session, I prefer sessions where she's honest about what's happening on her side physcially. I'm a bit of a pleaser, so faking is a bummer. I get that sometimes it is just not going to happen at all, so then it is about me. That's (obviously) fine / great. Just let me know. Sometimes she's feeling good and it still isn't going to happen which is also fine. It all varies. I saw a woman very often and we always just clicked. It was always mutually awesome. (Sadly, she retired.) Another "ATF" was very, very open about her mood when we met and which direction the session would go, so we worked from there and it was great. Once she flat out said I was being used a sex toy that day. Giddyup! She also has retired. Another friend, yes we've become friends, and I hit it off great socially and such, but it tends to be somewhat clunky and clumsy when we have a session. I have no idea why, but I enjoy her company a lot and so continue to visit. Life is like a box of chocolates...

Okay, so I am totally overthinking this, but here goes.... It might be a matter of spending some time in both, then going with the one location that generates the most appointments, or the most quality (for you) appointments and stay there? Maybe change up a few times to get a better sample size? Or see where your regulars/favorites tend to book most often? ...yeah, maybe just flip a coin and just have fun?

Aaaaiiiieeeeee!!! STAY OUT OF LAKEWOOD!!! //contractual obligation to make that comment whenever the L-word is mentioned....carry on.//

Very good points all around. I'm not much of a reviewer for a number of reasons (see the same folks mostly & very infrequently of late.) that said, I agree that reviews that read like a Penthouse Letters offering Allan be quite entertaining and almost always useless. I once booked with a provider based on a couple of these sort of reviews and had a very below average session. She was 100% legit, responsive and pretty easy to schedule as well attractive and a terrific incall, but batshit crazy and our interaction was really awkward. So what kind of review is my opinion of her ("BSC") yet very professional around the logistics? Good, bad? Mixed? She might take great offense at the unkind assessment. Plus, my take that she was "unstable" may have been seen as delightfully quirky to another gent, so there is that. For me the "best" reviews focus on the hard wired items: "she texted me right back" or "it took a day to get a reply." Her incall was a 3-star hotel...the inside of Noah's Ark was tidier...I had to wait 15 minutes before she was ready...she wore exactly the outfit Inrequest...we went over time, but wasn't an issue or she had me out the door at the 60th minute. I find that sort of fairly objective information most valuable / easential and should be part of every review. Heck, if weren't likely so much work, that is the kind of "drop down menu" the form should have. The fact that the session was so freaky hit that you started yodeling in Esperanto is awesome for you and meaningless to me. Whao....that got ranty at the end. YMMV?

Yes, still generating a 404 error.

W - Is this an unfixable problem or am I the only who wants to use it, so a lowest priority task? Thanks, Y

Since no one, except Laci, seems to want to answer your question. Here goes. I'm not a provider, but I'll play one on TOB.... The Denver Tech Center is pretty much a hub of "business" activity and many providers book hotels there. Classy, but affordable? Probably something like a mid-range Marriott would make most gents comfortable. Everyone says "Stay out of Lakewood!" And DTC is far from Lakewood (Also, unless you're really being indiscreet, I don't know how much trouble Lakewood would give you.) Hope that helps.

As others have said, it is about the sex. (Yet another situation where the supply at home is shut off...I know, I'm a romantic.) But, if you do it right, the process can really go quite smoothly which is why I chose this over trying to establish a "friends with benefits" situation. I just can't imagine being able to call up an attractive friend, say "Want to get together for a hour or so tomorrow?", have the visit , say "Thank you. That was wonderful. Take care" and wander off for several weeks without any other contact. OR call the next day and say "Can we do that again?!" and likely being able to do it again. Then wandering away So there is that.

I did a TON of looking around on TOB and P411 (too afraid of BP.), then contacted a "mature" (40s) provider. I gave some minimal personal info (has not comeback to haunt me...yet ;-) Talked a bit on the phone, set an appointment & had a great time first encounter. Sought out a second mature provider & the second provider happened to know the first ( this is a small world) & so I was able to book an appointment based on that. I then applied for P411 using these providers as references for that, but it took forever to get the account going as Provide #1 didn't send an okay (why she didn't is a weird thing.) Anyway, in the meantime, I did make an appointment with a third established provider was okay'd via first provider as a reference as well as email exchanges and had a really terrific appointment. By now I'm going a little kooky (suffering a six year "dead bedroom" with my SO will do that...) and booked an appointment with a fourth lady who was, unbeknownst to me, brand new and who happened to be mentored by my third acquaintance. (Again, small world.) We didn't know that until chatting as our appointment was wrapping up. Finally, got a P411 account due to the second and third providers reference. Took about two months total. That was about three years ago and now things have come full circle as I've had to suspend my P411 account due to recently being "restructured" out of a job -- along with a dozen others. So the whole "hobby" is on hiatus until I find a new gig. (While the rest of the economy, especially in Colo is booming, my sector is a dumpster fire.) Couldn't see keeping the account going when I'm grounded. The downside is that if I happen to run into a little extra change, I'll probably visit someone who I've been a (semi) regular. I could probably meet with someone new based on having a handful of ladies who would likely give me a positive reference. But, I always feel weird when I think about asking for one -- which I know is insane and not about me, but the safety issue. Nevertheless, I always think they wonder why I'm not visiting them (the referrer) instead of the new person. I aks that, too. If I had multiple positive experiences to earn a good reference, why not go back? Given the current financial sharknado I'm experiencing, that is a completely moot point! har...

I think it is legit for a provider to decline sending a photo, especially one showing her face. Make a decision based on her ad or website. How difficult is that?

I would probably pass. Stepping into an RV, even a very nice one, just sort of kills the atmosphere for me.

The no reply to your request for a new appointment is disappointing. Contacting here again probably depends on her reputation, personality and your interest. Reminds me a retired provider I really liked seeing despite the challenges. After about a half dozen, painfully disappointing last minute cancellations, and many many more halfway set appointment "yes, let's meet Monday..." then radio silence and so on with this provider, I figured out that about 80 percent of the "appointments" just wouldn't happen because this provider was just super flakey, but when we did connect it was awesome. I miss her, but not the run around! The things I do for Mr. Johnson.

Alex Wolf 720-504-6135 Colorado Escort New ad on June 8th , but no reviews. https://theotherboard.com/users/112044/ads No of her ad's images come up on Tineye or Google. Nothing shows on her phone number or email address. The thing that throws me is for loop is her rate of $150/hr. That might be a typo because it seems quite low. (I know "shut up and book!") Profile: https://theotherboard.com/ads/show/2670 Has anyone seen her or have more info? Many thanks, Y.

And she has a review up now.... Kaduk, want to just nuke this whole thread?!? Oy, sorry Alex...

Alright, I think I've knackered this up. Just noticed a reference that Elle Belle's lastest ad: "I will be hosting my sexy girl Alex Wolf." So there is that.

Looks like "she" deleted her profile on TOB & the ad is gon. (Unless I'm using search wrong.) I'm generally not paranoid, but....

Does anyone still use the TOB Chatzy room? http://us20.chatzy.com/14101801529176 If not (and there seems to be very, very little activity of late), are there alternatives?

W, Any progress on this? Thank you. Y.

and you'd be ready for an alternative Havoline nuru....