Wile E Coyote

I did not say you should provide for for free. Here is an idea, read the actual post instead of trying to dissect and read something that is not there INTO the post so you can condescendingly reply to it. To expound on my post, the provider I replied to said the money was not important, the chemistry is what matters and she accepts appointments with and sees only those guys that she has sexual chemistry with. On topic of this thread (how to treat a client) and speaking of chemistry, given that the guy is clean and respectful, the donation that providers receives is the "chemistry" that is enough to at least show a client a good time. The hygiene and respectfulness works both ways. I understand ladies want to be as safe as possible, but that respect encompasses not asking for persona real life info.

You disagree? You say that you enjoy what you do, and that is good, I mean, if you are going to do something, it should be something you enjoy doing, right? I did not say money was everything, but since you disagree and you only see guys that you can make a connection with, and you feel there should be no "acting" involved, then shall I look for reviews of you that had great chemistry with a guy, but the donation amount is $0? Although sometimes, it is fun to bring a provider to a social event or take her to dinner as doing so can be a great meet and greet, the hobby is not like going on a date, other then the fact that a guy is going to get laid on the first date, as apposed to having to seduce, wine and dine and may not even get as much as a departing kiss. Sure, you have every right to pick and choose who you are going to see for this intimate arrangement, but remember, you are getting paid for a service, and there is a reason for that. Maybe it is because he is not good at playing Romeo, he is not so good looking and the ladies probably would not give him the time of day otherwise, he does not want the drama of RL relationship or several other factors. Getting back to the topic of this thread, let's face it, in one degree or another, being a "mattress actress" is a role that a provider plays and in so doing, depending upon how real feeling that IOP (Illusion of Passion) is, so is her phone ringing not just for inquiries, but for appointments. It is one thing to get a new client, but it is quite another to get repeat visits from the same clientele.

So now you are splitting hairs and deviating from you original statement. As I said, money the largest factor when i comes to the hobby and if you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself. And that money SHOULD be the chemistry and incentive enough for a provider to show you a great time. The chemistry you are referring to that makes you have those rare orgasms just shows she is one of the best for you that you are paying her to be. And, with that, comes more visits from you in the future with her. If for her donation, she does little more than just allowing you to get a nut, if that much, then surely you are not stupid enough to see her again.

I agree that there are some ladies that have a stellar reputation and you could probably trust them with anything, but I still would always err on the side of caution. The question is, why would a provider ask for a picture of a hobbyist in the first place? Providers, does it help with screening? You are right, money is one of the elements of a provider/client relationship, but it is the most important, because let's face it, if a client does not have the donation, the provider is not going to see him for free out of the goodness of her heart. IMO, as long as the client passes the provider's screening methods, he shows up on time, has immaculate hygiene, respects her time and person, the provider accepting the donation is the chemistry that should assure that client to have a great time, after all, there is a reason he is paying cash for it.

I did meet up with her and bought her dinner, also using it as a meet and greet. After dinner was over, she laid that on me, so with that and a couple other reasons, I declined to do a BCD session with her.

I tried that one time and it was awful. Many guys do complain about very little feeling when wearing a cover, but if you chose to have to provider wear a female condom, it is even worse! I like to move up and down feeling a provider's tightness against my covered member as apposed to going in bare and already spread open by the female condom.

That is right, I have over 100 p411 OKs on p411. If you would like, you can verify it. But, as I said, the provider told me some guy told her that. Maybe you read my post wrong, but if not, the question I have is how can you can bullshit on a conversation I had with someone else?

Call bullshit all you want, but that is what she told me another guy told her. I told her that it was not true about all guys.

You NEVER want to give any real world info to a provider, especially your employment info or even your real name (besides, you do not know hers). If a provider asks for my picture, I send her this:

A p411 provider I recently met this past weekend told me that most guys require BBFS and if a provider does not allow it, she will not make any money. She also told me that because of that, a guy got her pregnant and she was about a month along.

This hobby will go on forever, after all, it is the oldest profession, so we all just hit a detour in the road. IMO, what has come to the end of the line on adult boards is pimps, facilatators and considerably less trolling of posts/cyberbullying that was all to frequent before the new laws.

Hey Nina! From what I have seen, this board is going to be mainly a discussion board and some info exchange via PM or coed discussions.

Let me reiterated what I have said about Eccie, and have said it many times. I thorougly enjoyed Eccie for it's INTENDED purpose of being an adult provider review, info exchange and civil coed discussion about the hobby board, one reason I was there until the bitter end, and as you pointed out, those were my very posts on there. And if the site ever came back up, I would probably go back to it. But, as you know, the board was taken over for the most part by pimp/facilitator reviews, the info that was exchanged was that of agendas and circular logic assumptions/accasations (baiting posts) by trolls looking for a response, then their water was carried without question by guys like you, and the coed discussions turned into a bunch of arguing and name calling threads by dudes. The over 800 female provider members Eccie had in Dallas rarely posted on Eccie and only a handful at that and most of the ones those (other than ads), were drama queens themselves. As far as this site goes, since the new laws, they do not allow ads in Dallas and the reviews have to be tame if posted, so I think it is more of an info exchange/discussion board for the Dallas area now. I also like the fact that the staff does not put up with the FUD that Eccie was famous for (see rules #5 and #6 of this site) So instead of the trolls and cool kids having pocket mods like they did on Eccie, creating a hostile atmosphere at times and causing unwanted attention to their site, the staff here are going to nip that bullshit in the bud before the name calling exchanges begin.

The first thing I immediately notice is the eyes and then smile.

Dude, did I mention porn quality graphic reviews? I know the current situation of the hobby world, no need to keep reminding me and everyone else, get off your condescending high horse. Just giving my opionion on an opinioned board, if you disagree with my opinion, then by all means, please state yours. Also, it seems that on many of my recent posts, you seem to be right behind it quoting me, time to get a life and quit following me around.

The reviews are the MAIN reason a review board is enjoyed, retains it's members as well as new membership in the future. Followed closely are the ads by providers and comradery of a close knit group of like minded individuals and civil discussions. Those are the reasons that adult boards should be for.

You are right, the ones that do those things do no deserve respect, my point was that all opinions and the people that different ones than you deserve respect. But, from what I can tell, those that have different opinions than the cool kids are ridiculed.

Lots of companies are hiring. I hate that ladies who are providing companionship on their own free will are suffering. There are way more guys out there that want to get laid than there are providers to be able to accompany them, which is why this oldest profession in the world will continue to thrive regardless of any laws past. But, just think if all the ladies that did this were doing it on the own free will, then the SESTA/FOSTA laws would not have even been introduced to begin with.

Since the SESTA/FOSTA bills were introduced, the road of hobbying for both guys and ladies has been getting met with more and more obstacles. Yes, the ladies have always have had guys that try to haggle their rates/service, and don't forget, guys have always had to put up with ladies that play the widely accepted YMMV card on the service just because they can and the guy still has to pay the full rate. That is just the nature of the game. Sure, there are going to be complaints about no reviews or ads, and that is because most people do not like change that affects them to the point they have to do more work to still get the same results. ALL people deserve respect, even the ones that have a different opinion on the same subjects.

Well, if he was an Eccie member, his real name was outed by the media http://deadline.com/2018/04/backpage-com-ceo-pleads-guilty-will-cooperate-with-federal-investigators-1202360140/ but that is OK in my book being the pimp trafficker he pleaded guilty to. IMO, I have always felt guys like that need to be exposed and when they go to prison, those guys will be the trafficked bitch!

Not only do honest recollections of time spent make one accountable, especially when the see a known reviewer, but also they allow guys that see the reviews to make an informed decision and give them at least an idea what to expect.

IMO, the problem with no reviews on a review board is that makes most of the board useless. I understand why it has to be this way, but we have to vent somewhere. I counted on reviews, seeing the consistency of service of a provider by multiple guys that reviewed her. An all encompassing "yes" on the recommendation means very little as we are all different and want more detail. Is it harder on the guys or the ladies? I think both are going to feel it. For the ladies, it means that they have say a little more over text/email/phone than they may be comfortable with to a new john, after screening of course. For the guys, since they cannot review, a provider can give a guy a shitty session and not be held accountable. Also, because other guys can see how she is BCD and all, then they do not have pertinent info to make a decision, and that ultimately effect both the providers and hobbyists. I feel sorry for both if they do not have regulars or are just starting out and have no references.

Speaking of traffickers, Eccie was a pimp ran site and the staff there allowed many troll members to run amuck with total amnesty from any guideline infraction. They also allowed pimp/facilitator ad reviews, baiting posts of unfounded circular logic accusastions and schoolyard bully name calling and most of all, they thrived on agenda seekers causing attention to Eccie, and that included the unwanted attention ultimately leading to the site shut down.

Some of the earlier Eccie modsduring the time they were mods actually joined in and took sides during disputes. But, I can see where they did not want to get involved in he said/she said arguments of negative reviews, only the two people involved know for sure what happened so there was no point in speculating.

p411 has not changed for me. I have heard that they are not allowing any more new providers as members tho