raul

This is http://www.perfectangelsdenver.com/ I have a fond memory of a cute blonde I met about 10 months ago and was my very first foray into this field. Like they say, you never forget your first... But yes, it was self-service with some touching allowed. At the time, it was enough to get me going, so perhaps my experience is slightly biased. The pictures of the one I met were completely accurate and I've always wondered why they use those silly 'mommy-effect' filters. But I am willing to risk my reputation and say that the pictures will be accurate, at least of the younger ladies. They take the 'companionship' aspect very seriously and that is what they essentially offer. I'd say if a particular lady strikes your fancy, go for it, but do not expect anything in the way of activities.

I've met the aforementioned Lexi and it was essentially a rip-off, while I was kind and reviewed with a So-So. This group/agency seem to be really smart with fantastic looking pictures, which could be real based on my experience. But service and attitude are almost certain to be poor. Better avoided.

I wouldn't say they are fake pictures, but more super-glamorized ones. True that some ladies won't be as beautiful as they seem but they will likely be cute enough to get you going. Have you ever googled celebrities without makeup? Many wouldn't pay to watch movies or buy merchandise if they didn't look that good. Kinda the same logic IMO.

Most likely legit but nearly ALL their ladies seem to have been headhunted from other agencies. I don't think 'honor' is a term commonly used in these circles but looks like they certainly follow the saying "No honor among..." That leads me to be a little wary of this agency but I believe there are few reviews around here showing their service has been up to par.

IKR. I don't know half the jargon Admiral just said but it sounds intriguing. O captain my captain...

This brings back some uncomfortable memories of a doubles session I had a while back. Before the session, my mind was racing with all sorts of activities I wanted to do with the two ladies. However, giving them each the attention they deserved was an absolute nightmare!! I love giving and receiving attention during a session, as some ladies here might attest to, but it was difficult balancing my attention and performing at the same time. I had a great time during the session, but just not as much as I thought I would have and, certainly not as much as I've had with some 'single' ladies. For me, I'm not sure if it was over stimulation or just the lack of being one-on-one with someone beautiful.

Don't... Just don't... Don't even go here bro.

Could be a hit or miss. I know one girl who was formerly with Russian Dolls and subsequently with Privilege. We built quite a connection outside the hobby and I saw her while she was an indy in the time in between. Leads me to believe that they are headhunters from Russian Dolls and another agency specializing in Eastern Europeans. I have reason to believe there is plenty of bad blood between RD and P, and perhaps some mafia type shit might go down soon. Like a classic corporate story where one partner/brother breaks off and starts a rival firm. I feel the girl will be real but the activities could vary. I would take the chance if you feel comfortable.

This is something that has concerned me as well but I thought it too much of a taboo subject to discuss here. With providers, I've never had FS without a condom and don't plan changing that ever. Heck, even hookups with ladies I've met socially have always been safe. I can't imagine anyone going BB in this field.

Since this thread is about horror stories, I thought I'd share the one I've had. I believe I've posted about this someplace else, but it was a Cash & Dash that left me wary of meeting another provider for many weeks. I texted a BP lady with nice pics and her responses were charming and accommodating. I was even offered a discount since I'd asked to meet around 3 pm, which was apparently a lean time. It was around my 10th provider experience and I couldn't believe my luck at having gotten a discount even without asking. I didn't see the red flags the time... She came over to my place and didn't look anything like the photos. More crack w***e than cute coed. But she was enthusiastic and I didn't know how to say no back then. We chatted for a bit then she asked for the donation so she could hand it off to her driver to make sure that I was legit and going thru with the session. First warning sign. I was nervous yet polite while I asked if she'd come back and she said she'd leave her handbag here as collateral. I scoffed at it and said there could be nothing worthwhile in there. She seemed to know that the gig was up but remarkably kept her composure and insisted on the donation and even brazenly mentioned a cancellation fee if I were to back out. She now had a look in her eye which made me want to get her out of my room. I told her I'd be ok to pay half the agreed donation and nothing more and she left her bag and went to drop-off her cash. As expected, she drove off and I was really more relieved than anything else.

I've been at the receiving end of the Asian 'grandma-drama' too, although she didn't have quite as many rules as the one Juanmotai encountered. Quite the contrary in fact, it was my third or fourth ever provider experience and she pulled out a raincoat and was ready to go. I on the other hand, wasn't even hard due to her grandma-ness! Needless to say, I ended it quick handie and a goodbye. I did end up meeting another lady from a seemingly organized Asian agency. She was young and real and rather cute and giggly. But not FS and plenty of rules. Not a horror story by any means but incredibly disappointing.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Agree 100%.

I didn't have a P411 when I met one of their ladies. I sent over the phone numbers of two providers who I'd met prior. RD got back to me quite promptly, I guess under 2 hours, and I was verified with them.

Going off of this, I think I know what you mean... Something about both the website and provider doesn't quite feel right. Good website but mismatched photos Rock-bottom pricing (500 for an outcall dinner date?!) Perhaps I'm being too critical...Those are my two cents.

Gut instinct, but something feels off to me too. Unchanged photos for months, no reviews ever. I texted her in Dec/Jan and I recall she replied reasonably well but, again, something didn't quite feel right. I realize this reply doesn't add up to much, FWIW.

That's gotta take balls, man! She looks young AF. I'd be apprehensive to say the least.

Dayum! Shots fired!

A lot has already been said on this thread but I thought I'd add one more, the Denver-specific sections on ECCIE are full of warnings by a member cautioning that she's a crook who stole from his place. I don't know if its the same person who's posted a review mentioning the same here on TOB but this should be more than enough reasons to stay away.

Ok. I think I know what you intended to know from this thread, being a Russian enthusiast myself... And yes, this should be in the 411 section. There have been plenty of ads with Russians recently, agencies and indies. Peruse the 411 section and you'll find which indies are best avoided. As far the agencies are concerned, it looks like they are good for the most part. I have seen reviews ranging from incredible to underwhelming but it strongly depends on what your expectations are going in, as well the skills of the YL in question. I'd stick my neck out and say they aren't out to get you and really do try and make every wish come true. But I believe some of the YLs might be newbies themselves, hence the occasional poor review. Coming to the point of there being few or no reviews posted on their profiles, its probably because the agency creates the profiles and the girls don't know about the different hobby websites. The low volume of clients is also a reason, probably because of their prices. But the biggest cause for the lack of reviews is that they're in a town for a short period of time, usually just 3-5 days. Hope that helps.

She is on P411 which is usually a good sign. I'd go ahead.

Thank you sir! How do you suggest we go about this? Can we do this as individuals or will the admins blacklist such providers and reviewers?

Yes. I could have worded my reply in a better way. Sorry about that. But yes, I do not think this is DL but their MO takes inspiration from them. And Elara is another one I had my doubts about. I'm using P411 in addition to TOB/Eccie as a two-step authentication method to avoid being disappointed and frustrated. A lot of these "borderline scams" aren't joining P411.

Yea... I don't want to question the validity of some of the reviews but it looks like I have to. This seems to be a growing trend with several other 411 threads asking the same question about other providers. Its becoming harder and harder to trust brand new providers.

Probably. I have no problem with agencies but this one seems keen on misleading customers more than anything else. Also, I see Lexi still advertises on BP with a different number and slightly different photos. Looks like this bunch is carrying forward the legacy of the "Denver Ladies" group, which I'm not sure is still around.

That's excellent detective work! Everything you need to know is in my review of Lexi. PM me for more info. As a pre-emptive 411, I'm almost certain that Svetlana Lickanova (https://theotherboard.com/users/117244) is also in the same crew. They seem to going from strength to strength in terms of the number of girls and price offered. While likely to be the girls in the photos, I do not think the services will be up to scratch. Hurrah for teamwork!