Pirate

In upstate NY, you need to be much more careful than in Colorado, and for fuck's sake do not respond to any backpage ads or a girl flagging you down on the street. From what I've been hearing, stings, busts, and ripoffs (as in actual robbery, not take the money and run) are about as common as legitimate providers. In some upstate NY cities, you check the "adult" section of backpage and it is completely empty . . . and when a girl from out of town does post an ad, Vice busts her within a few hours. Rochester, in particular, has a very bad reputation for violent crime, abusive cops, and psychotic judges. Good luck.

It would not surprise me to learn that he was faced with several UCs in street clothes rather than "uniformed officers" as the article states. I've seen video of dozens of stings, and they usually involve UC officers. Often cars are used that are not recognizable as unmarked police vehicles and the UCs are bearded longhairs dressed like dirtbags. If the Greeley PD is claiming the deceased pointed a weapon at uniformed officers I hope they have the video evidence to back that up.

From the videos, it appears that Vice is working these stings in plain clothes. Just walking into the hotel room with their scruffy lookin' friends claiming to be po-lice. I could see that ending very badly. The wrong guy might not even think he's getting busted, he'll think, "who the fuck are these clowns having a hotel key? I must be getting robbed." He pulls his gun, they pull theirs, and then it's out on the AP wire coast to coast about the Denver Vice sting that went horribly wrong.

I went to the old Shotgun . . . once. They do not like bikers. Not just the typical "no colors" policy, but "no motorcycle apparel." Fortunately, I was not riding the bike that day and was not dressed like a "biker." I sit at the bar, order a beer and some food. Had a thick wad of cash in my pocket to spend. The manager takes a seat next to me and asks about the tattoo on my arm, which is MC related. Got the cold shoulder for the next hour and left. They're listed on several local websites as "biker unfriendly." Fuck this place, won't be back.

Sometimes, a situation like that ends up with you getting mugged in the parking lot when you follow her outside. Fairly common setup in some nightclubs. Sounds like she was too broke to pay the cover that night.

Thank you for supporting out troops.

I don't believe in cheating or lying. Myself and my significant other agreed on an open relationship long before we move in together. She is a very openminded lady who is non-judgemental of sex workers. The first time I saw an escort we did it as a couple. We're not swingers and I rarely date other girls or see escorts, but if I do I know it won't be a problem because she's not the jealous possessive type.

Just pay for the hour so it isn't rushed. If an hour is "more than you can afford," maybe you should only do this once a month.

"Crazy" doesn't always equate with "dangerous." Realizing that someone is emotionally unstable actually makes them a bit less dangerous, because you're aware. Most crazy people are just damaged in some way. They don't want to hurt or stalk anyone, they just have boundary issues and difficulty expressing themselves which makes others uneasy. The vindictive predatory types are in a rather small minority.

Depends on a lot of factors. If you are paying for her time at the restaurant, go wherever you want. If it is after a session or on her day off, ask her what she's in the mood for and check the reviews on Yelp. Lots of subpar restaurants in Denver. Actually, I'd recommend someplace other than Mexican or Italian. Perhaps Indian, Thai, Vietnamese, or even sushi. Ask her what she likes. A lot of people hate Mexican food.

BDSM is one of those things that it's important to learn as much as you can about before getting deeply involved. Everybody has different, and very specific, kinks and hard limits. Some girls are into fairly extreme stuff, but are totally against other things which seem minor in comparison. Others enjoy certain sensations or experiences but are totally against bondage or face slapping. You need to be careful you don't cross their lines. Always discuss what they want and don't want IN ADVANCE, then have them use a safeword if things get too intense. One disturbing thing I've heard is that there is at least one guy in Denver who claims to be a "Dom" but no-one who knows his reputation will have anything to do with him, so he's been beating up escorts and taking his donation back afterwards. I don't have access to the "blacklist" but maybe someone who does could check if there has been any reports like that lately.

Doesn't sound like "narcolepsy" . . . more like something that starts with the same 5 letters but is a "forbidden topic" here. Totally unprofessional as well as crazy to do that before a session. However, being a nice guy with an EMS background, I'd probably feel obligated to make sure she was okay, because a few things could go seriously wrong if you just leave her laying there on her back, and if your contact number is in her phone you might get a call from the authorities asking what you know about the dead hooker they found in the motel room. Or, she could wake up and find her purse missing and assume you took it, in which case one of her friends might try to track you down. Of course, if you stay there for a couple extra hours, she might flip out when she wakes up and finds you there. Bad situation all around, and it shouldn't happen, and I wouldn't blame anyone for taking their money back and bailing . . . just turn her on her side first so she doesn't aspirate her vomit. As to all the guys who would keep going, it would really suck if she woke up confused and disoriented and forgot she was in the middle of a session.

Pimps are bad enough, but these wannabe pimps [snip} and will result in serious additional penalties for any "John" who unknowingly patronizes them, are a bane on the sex work industry as a whole. Inexcusable heinous shit.

If the guy "sounds like a jerk on the phone," just tell him you're booked solid for the next week. That is a major red flag there. As others have said, even people with verifiable references can turn out to be a freak. Maybe he was nice to the last few girls, but this week he got fired from his job and is off his meds. References are only an indicator, not a guarantee. Besides, there are lots of good guys who don't have references (the few girls I've seen are either out of the business now or out of Denver with a new number). It's a judgement call. Trust your gut and don't make an exception just because you want the money. If a guy seems like a creep over the phone or has no online presence at all, just tell him you're unavailable.

A lot of the best girls only do this for a few years, if that. Very high burnout rate and always a risk, so few people want to stay in the business long term. If they're smart and plan ahead, they can put aside a fairly substantial amount of cash over a few years. Never had the pleasure of meeting Tori in person, but she seemed like a genuinely good person and I wish her the best.

A few comments, First off, you're obviously doing something wrong. You need to figure out what that is and take steps to correct it, or you're in the wrong business and need to do something else. You need to be more careful screening people. Talk to them over the phone for a while before scheduling an appointment. If they give you a bad vibe, don't schedule. Use a 2-call system. Have them park somewhere you can see them with binoculars. If they look like trouble, cancel without giving them the room number. If someone makes it as far as your incall room and you immediately get a bad feeling, tell them they have the wrong room, lock the door, and switch off your phone so it doesn't ring. Shortly after they leave, change rooms or change motels. Always get the money up front. Count it in front of them, then go in another room to hide it. If someone shoves you, that's battery, and if they grab your purse that's robbery. Very short step from pushing you on the ground and taking your purse to kicking you in the face or slicing you up with a razor. You need to be a fuck of a lot more careful about who you let into your room or eventually you're going to get hurt. Someone said something about mace. Ever spray mace inside an enclosed area? Wrong tool for the job. Gel or foam based spray can be used indoors, but after you spray you'll need to grab your stuff and get out of the room and not go back. D-cell flashlight battery in a stocking works well, and can be hidden between the mattress and box spring. Ice picks are only a couple bucks at Wal Mart and are easy to hide too. But you don't use violence unless you have no other option. Because of what you're doing, your attackers are counting on you not wanting to draw attention to yourself, and if you started screaming they probably wouldn't expect that, but it could go either way, either they run out the door or they try to make you shut up. If you do a better job screening, you're less likely to have these problems. There are a lot of serial predators who like to hit prostitutes and take their money, as they consider you a low risk target: inside a private room, lots of cash, unlikely to report the crime to LE. Sounds like you've had more than your fair share of bad experiences lately, but you haven't met one of the REALLY bad guys yet. You need to screen better.

I've taken a few girls out for a ride on the motorcycle and treated them to lunch, but it was off the clock. Never had a problem with their attitude or behavior either. They were a lot classier than some of the girls I'd met on okcupid.

On the rare occasion that I find a provider I really click with, I'll start seeing her exclusively. A few times I was led to believe there was potential for something more, but it never worked out well. A girl who wants to start dating a new client off the clock generally is somewhat confused and unstable. It's really nice for the first few days, then the craziness comes out and everything turns to chaos and shit really quick. If you want to take a girl out for dinner or let her sleep over at your house every now and then that's one thing, but a lasting and positive relationship probably isn't going to happen.

On the rare occasion I go out to meet someone who does this sort of thing, my goal is to relieve stress and relax. I'm also very cautious about checking out the area around the incall and never saying anything that would validate a lawful arrest for solicitation. About a third of the time, I decide I don't feel comfortable doing anything sexual with the girl anyway, and we end up just hanging out for an hour talking. I do not expect to be "busted." I also am recovering from combat PTSD and unexpected sudden movements and loud noises can sometimes trigger socially inappropriate behaviors. A couple of men storming into the incall waving guns and shouting would not end well, especially if they were not wearing official police uniforms. Anyone can buy a windbreaker and ballcap that says POLICE on it from the surplus store, and individuals who pull armed ripoffs often do.

Happy? I don't think I've ever been "happy." Occasionally I experience some level of peace or even contentment, but "happy" would be a bit of a stretch.

The police made no arrests. The supposedly upscale hotel has refused to turn over surveillance camera footage. The woman supposedly attacked by 10 people apparently did not require hospitalization. She supposedly was simply walking through the bar area to get to her room, "minding her own business", while her husband on crutches hobbled along well behind her struggling to keep up. Sounds like bullshit to me. What I think happened was she was in a bitchy mood and just got in an argument with her husband and was stomping back to her room all pissed off. One of the working girls saw her pinched up mad face and thought it would be funny to joke about it, whereupon she talked shit and got hit, probably a few slaps and a lot of yelling. Her husband told everyone to leave her alone, which they did, and now she wants to sue the hotel for 10 million dollars hoping they'll settle for a fraction of that.

1. If you are dating a violent felony offender who has done time for using weapons on people and fighting cops, it seems pretty stupid to deliberately provoke her. 2. If you end up deliberately provoking her anyway, and she flips out and throws a knife at you, resulting in a "minor cut", say you're sorry, clean it with vodka, and put a band-aid on it. 3. Or you could be a bitch and call the cops on your girlfriend. Now she's in prison and he's in the paper for being the guy who farts in people's faces and tells them to shut up when they yell about it . . . then calls the cops when he gets a little scratch.

With warrantless searches, we went from "in an emergency" to "exigent circumstances" to "a cop can kick in your door if he walks past and thinks he smells weed." It is reasonable to foresee similar abuses with GPS mapping of cellphones. If they are looking for a fugitive drug dealer using an anonymous burner cellphone, I can see them wanting to demand GPS data of his girlfriend, mom, and all known associates in order to find him . . . and the cellular provider won't be able to say no because they won't even be told what is going on.

Generally speaking, with very few exceptions, someone's PAST should not be an issue. If she seemed like a good match, wasn't insane, and was serious about a relationship, her former profession would be a non-issue. While I have no problem with dating someone who works as an escort, marriage is a whole other level of commitment, and I could not marry or live with someone who wanted to continue that line of work. It is a high risk profession for a lot of reasons, and I would prefer not to deal with the additional stress, regardless of how much money she could make.

You might be surprised to find that murders like that really aren't that uncommon . . . and she probably slit his throat and shot him in the head because he was still alive after being stabbed 29 times. She's not a serial killer or a cannibal or a castrator, or even a kidnapper . . . not at all like Ted Bundy. Dating crazy girls is sorta like working with nitroglycerine. If you are observant enough to realize they are unstable and potentially dangerous you're less likely to set them off unexpectedly. It looks like the victim was a telemarketer who unexpectedly poked her in the ass with no lube. Would I bang her? Maybe. Unless she was also a vegan or a fan of rap music, because I do have my limits.