Lucy Kitten

But then where would all of take your shots at Lucy? Because that's all this thread had been.

Saving records for lying clients is exactly why we do what we do. He wants to come on here and spout bullshit I will share the evidence with him because sharing private correspondence is against the rules. He's cancelled on me many times and I not going to not keep records of that.

Nope you have scheduled and canceled on me twice this year. You were mad that you didn't get me cheap rates. So first it was 8 times and now it's five times? It could be that you know my location because you book and then cancel. Give me proof my email is open as I just sent you the thread where you tried to book and cancel. You've called me a bunch of times this year too.

No you haven't. I saw you once years ago and that was it. I have refused sessions with you for years. Or you call and want a last minute session and then cancel. I have receipts. We can go through your posts it's all there. You never came back because you never got the Russian you didn't ask for remember? Again that's all there in your public posting history. I have all the emails where you've canceled too. Just this year you have tried to schedule short notice and then canceled short notice. You're one of the cheap ones and you have made that clear, you wanted to see me again but you were offended that my rates exceeded your budget. I know you liked the chance to harp on Lucy but really I think you're just mad because I told you to not contact me because you have zero respect. BY the way I know the mods will let it stand because it'a about me but this is review worthy material that he never bothered to write a review about because I have not seen him in at least six years. This guy is a liar.

I'm not talking about acting I am talking about preservation. My personal self isn't up for grabs. Will I share interests and personal anecdotes sure but there is a reason why persona's are kept separate. I have had plenty of successful extended states. I've been flown from coast to coast. Maybe I'm not for you (which we've already established) but that doesn't mean that overnights are not for me. Length of session doesn't make it less work. Nor does having that connection. I know it's shocking and it seems dishonest but you'd be amazed what a provider would agree to do for larger sums of money. No she really didn't want to go the Museum of Manhole Covers but she was happy to because you wanted to. Yes we're all human but we providers are professional too. I tend to think that overnights aren't for the people who attach too much emotion to it. People who get prickly when I call my job work aren't for me. Calling it work doesn't cheapen the time together. Being a professional means that you can have a great time with someone who wants your company sans that "connection". The whole point of the persona in the first place is to attract the clients you want and keep away the clients you don't. I'm not uncomfortable in the extended dates that I choose but I think you're in denial if you think there isn't work and a lot of compromise that goes into spending a weekend or month with someone who is paying you.

It's work no matter how you slice it and yes you do kind of have to be on all the time. Your not free to be entirely yourself because it was your persona that was hired. Weird habits are hidden routines ignored. Even being with people I really really like it can be exhausting spending so much time with them. On a true vacation of my own I don't have to worry about sleeping in or eating the wrong foods and spending the night with intestinal distress.

This is a great reason to have a website ladies. Since we can't really post squat we can only hope that serious potential clients do a little search. And when they search hopefully what they see first is your website so they can learn all they need to know.

The 5k number he threw out there was arbitrary. The point I was trying to make is that the offer has to make a profit and giving a reason why someone might turn down 5k for two weeks in Hawaii. Extended dates are tricky, some clients think that it's doing us a favor to pay for a trip when they want our company. The post I commented on was a general statement about extended visits as was this thread. I am saying that anyone should know what a provider takes home every week but even if it was two weeks in Hawaii would you take a huge pay cut knowing you still had to work? That's what I am saying. Some times it's just takes a little math. Two weeks for 5k working pretty much 24hrs a day, because you have to be on, that's almost 15 an hour. If you knock off 8 hours for sleeping you bump it up to 22 an hour. Does that seem profitable to you? Long dates are complicated and can be a conversation separate from that other train wreck thread.

If the money spent is just for fucking then would you mind if your date was only around for the fucking part? Time and companionship are definitely part of the deal. And part of booking extended dates is that you pick up the travel tab, why not also want to pay her fee on top of it? Work is still work even if it's two weeks in Hawaii. Let's say for the sake of the argument a lady makes 7k a week. Are you thinking it's fair that she give up 9k worth of income because you're paying for the room? Most providers are willing to offer a substantially lower rate for longer visits as long as a profit is still made.

You have two profiles of sorts. When you're in the forum side of things click on your blank profile pic and it will take you to your forum profile where you can add a pic.

TOB started as a local site and grew to a national site. Most areas have their own sites that they use.

Gross and not surprising.

Would you rather hear that she was booked up or has raging diarrhea? J/K but seriously if a provider is busy with anything it makes more sense to tell you the potential client that we're booked up. It's just part of being on with the persona and it's a little but of marketing. It makes us sound desirable. It could also be to encourage you to prebook. The higher up you go on the price scale the less likely you are to see someone with less than 24hr notice.

You would know about threads to drum up business wouldn't you? This was a thread about the market being nonviable. Not Lucy's rates are too low. Maybe you should back off the scolding every now and then? Maybe just maybe this wasn't a thread about drumming up business? You and your friends wouldn't allow it anyways. In one thread you say we need a hooker union but here you just roll with the insults. I guess you don't want to see your peers be successful as long as you have yours huh?

You're still on purpose being antagonistic. Please show me where I said dumb men? Please? Maybe actually read my posts instead of the other guys . Reading comprehension helps us all. You only see one provider so how would you even know what's actually going on in this business?

You have probably said cheap more times than I have.

It wasn't a serious question.

Certainly no provider in the history of the business has lied about being booked up to increase desirability. It's a common tactic. Prices posted vs. prices actually paid is actually our little secret. There are many that post higher rates only to privately accept less because they need the money and want to continue the illusion that they are making that much money. There is not this vast difference between price and worth that you think. The market is manipulative. But what you're saying is that we're either Hyundais or Ferraris? And that I am a Hyundai wanting Ferrari prices? The pricing of cars isn't arbitrary it's the same with pussy. I would bet that those ladies you contacted in the higher rate ranges all had a few things in common. Slender, Caucasian and under 35. The value of the Ferrari isn't actually $100k but you like the way it looks so you pay for it. If you can't assign an inherent value to the business without making it about the individual I can't make you understand. But maybe the car analogy will help. There is still a cost to make those cars. Regardless of the type, that is the cost that the selling point is based off of. I would imagine that they even use similar metrics to decide the selling point. Every provider has the same base costs give or take a few. We all pay for advertising, incalls, tools, supplies. So why not just assign an actual value to a service and not people? There will always be varying degrees of rates but I think it's not outrageous to suggest that there is some sort of minimum that we can all agree on. Also regardless of what anyone thinks of an individual we're all fancy cars. It should never be forgotten that this is a luxury business. Some of us are Porches, some are BMWs, some are McLarens.

Just a simple question. Why if you don't like me or my posts do you feel obliged to ask malarkey like this?

But that's only regional. Similar cities with similar cost of life and similar type boards all have higher rates. I really think it will only pop locally. Do you mean locally or as a whole? Audrey brought up Dallas which is a great example of a collapsed market. I sincerely doubt that the whole industry will go kaboom.

I think the only bubble that will burst is the bubble that this community uses to isolate itself from the rest of the industry. I for one am all for that.

LOL one thread is constantly bitching? You seem smart enough to actually understand what I am trying to say so why don't you? It doesn't matter how I phrase it for some because they can't just resist taking that jab at me. I never called anyone cheap for paying my rates, I specifically kept myself out of this for that reason. If you don't want to hear what I have to say you can use the mute button but it seems you don't want to do that because then you wouldn't have the chance to write gentlemanly posts like this.

It is not a hot spot for escorts. It's a cheap spot. It's not just more ladies to compete with, my cost of living has risen %40 since 2010 but rates have stagnated.

It just shows how little you really understand this business. I am very aware that you gents have bills, I think the problem is you guys want us providers to fit your budget which is not our deal. That's not how luxury products work.