LadyInWaiting

You are responsible for your p411 account just as any other account you have. You would contact the financial institutions or any other businesses you have accounts with if you noticed strange activities correct. There's not a big difference. When it comes to how providers conduct their respective business each is different. I will not take someone's word they are a member of p411, date-check, RS2000 or any board unless a message or request is sent via that system. When the message is sent then I'll view the profile. Each system is very clear in that providers are not to be searching profiles for a "friend" or for no reason. My advice is that you read the guidelines for system or systems you're a member of. You did after all agree to follow them when you joined. The article states that 14 men where arrested in a street sting and 6 in an escort operation. The only mention is of BP and CL in the article. As for the I heard it from a friend or a reliable source. Unless it comes straight from the people or person directly involved to you it's just gossip and drama IMO. As it's been said take it with a grain of salt.

The OP did not ask for a free meeting. He is asking to speak via phone prior to the appointment and after being screened. The girl did in fact have an exchange and then had an issue when he asked for her to call him with location instead of text/email. There could of been several reasons for this on her part.

Speaking via phone is the best idea and personally for me as well I'm more comfortable then text/email. You know that it is a real person and can get a feel for their personality. Screening via email/text is fine however after that I'd rather set the appointment and finalize via calling. I've found gentlemen are far less prone to asking explicit questions via calls as well.

Search the reviews would be my advice as well as the advertising sites. It would definitely depend on your budget and the type of lady you're looking for, also the exact area. I don't want to list the provider's names out of respect. However there seems to be several to choose from located in the north Denver area on a regular basis.

Holly why are you outting this provider? I mean posting that she is using her personal number

Sorry let me correct my last comment the second officer was only busted for having sexual relations countless times while on duty.

No it is not new in Denver at all. These are both from last year and with in a month from each other. http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2014/04/michael_ryan_denver_police_prostitute_blowjob.php http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2014/05/stephanie_southard_denver_police_on_duty_sex.php

To the OP our personal life is just that. Of all the ladies I know in relationships their SO knows what they do. Do not get me wrong there are the ones who lie about the extent of services they provide however they are few in numbers. I do find it enjoyable that every threat the opportunity presents it's self the "do not give your personal information to a provider" is mentioned (haha). Most touring ladies screen harder then local ladies do because we are away from home. A P411 account is not a save all from screening as mentioned in this thread. P411 is merely a tool used in the screening process.

Nikki while your attention is flattering in a laughable way. Myself nor my business is the topic of this thread. I will not lower myself to a lesser standard because some provider I don't know has made the choice to lift her skirt and let her back side show. Again leave my chapter out the only provider you should be concerned with or about is yourself. You have proven the point you made about local provider's drama nicely dear.

How do you know you have not seen them? Sorry I don't spend my time obsessed with others nor being spiteful. If you are writing a book leave my chapter out please.

Why not visit a touring lady ? I understand to each their own and that preference is person by person based. Many of us ladies that do tour do in fact have areas that we travel to a few times a year. We also have areas we have tried it was not to our benefit and so we do not return. I fully understand that there are gentlemen who see local ladies only on the other side there are gentlemen who see touring ladies only and some mix it up.

This same ad title was on BP in Denver last week of course by the time I clicked the link the ad had been removed.

Another BP provider put down thread. Screening or the lack there of is based on the provider and not where she advertises. I'd mentioned this in another thread. We where all unknown reviewed providers once. After years it is a fact I personally have NEVER and will NEVER forget. IMO if you do not like the responses from a site then don't advertise on the site simple enough.

Check her site to see if she has a list of favorite things. If there is no list gift cards are a great way to go. The 100% can not go wrong however is Benjamin Franklin and friends they are a girl's true best friends.. lol

Burt you are a true white knight. Your comment is priceless and further shows the ugly of the hobby. Hate to break it to you just because she and you sit and have bitch/gossip sessions (you are paying for) doesn't make you any more special then the next. It happens with everyone seeing her and to them she is bitching/gossiping about YOU. This is supposed to be FUN for everyone involved not drama that one could easily get else where and save some money. Ownership, entitlement, gossip, drama, drama, drama ... some do live for it all. People who partake in these wonders have a hidden agenda that benefits them and no one else.

Sweetie I’m not going post in this thread after this. I've merely pointed certain things out and you've become defensive and arrogant. Bottom line gentlemen who are newbies have no idea what P411 or any other screening site is. They have no idea what discussion boards or reviews are for that matter. When it comes to ads 99% of the gentlemen look at the pictures like what they see and call/text/email they don’t read the ads. If they are new they have no idea what screening even is in the first place. This is one reason why some ladies are newbie friendly and some are not. Newbie's require a bit more time and effort. You are pointing him to p411 he has no idea what the site is. He reads the requirements to join and it freaks him out. Again he is new and has no clue. You clearly say that he talked to you on the phone, text you, made the appointment, and then refused any kind of screening when you reminded him of it. I’m confused by this as well. Again ads are rarely read and if he did being new he has no clue what screening is. Let’s not forget the little head is in control when gentlemen contact you. Try this Answer the phone get a first name to start, then inform that you screen, if you are asked why tell them, let them know what you require prior to setting an appointment, screen them and then set an appointment. IF he refuses to provide the information then move on and don’t respond unless he provides you with the information IT HAPPENS it WILL ALWAYS HAPPEN. It only affects you because you allow it to. Leave out the p411 (sorry Gina) it will only confuse a newbie who has not a clue what he is looking at. Think about building a website they can help. Humble yourself no good comes from bragging. Watch what information you share on sites it can red flag you to the seasoned gentlemen. The biggest reason is your safety from the crazy and good ol' LEO himself. Yes they read discussion boards have memberships on discussion boards so do not make it easy for them. Yes even LEO in WY.

To the OP p411 is a screening tool only. The use of an email different from the one listed on your P411 account might not be no big deal in your eyes. In the provider's eyes it raised a flag because normally gentlemen contact from the email listed on their account also the number if listed on their account. CrazyB There has to be more to the times you contacted the provider other then what you have shared. A provider is not going to think that you are LEO just because you couldn't schedule a time. The mention of explicit services or donations is a huge reason for this. Is that what happened when you contacted this provider? You say she was polite in calling you an officer and saying she would not see you so it escapes me as to why you would persist in as you admitted trying to change her mind? Shouldn't a provider's refusal to see someone be respected just as gentlemen want the fact of what they are and are not willing to provide for screening be respected? As for NBL sites while I do not agree with them being public for the reasons of ladies safety first and gentlemen's privacy second they are reviews. Gentlemen have no issues writing reviews to inform other gentlemen of a provider. BL sites and references are informing other providers of a gentleman. This is suppose to be fun for all party's involved if it's not then maybe it's not for you. The comfort of one is not more important for one side then the other. Respect should be shown on both sides. Boundaries should be respect by both sides as well.

There has to be a reason for this response. The mention of services or donation would be my guess. Your "no being able to change some people's minds" translates into I did not respect her refusal to see me and kept texting her even after she was polite to me. Sounds like she went with her instinct and there was a very good reason for this not just the fact you where unable to set an appointment a year ago. I'm sure there is more to the story they you have stated and have chosen to omit to avoid a unanimous she was right response. To the OP how was the lady to know that your p411 account had not been compromised my advice as it has been said would be stick with the information that is contained in your p411 account. p411 is very clear to the fact it is a screening tool it doesn't mean you are entitled to an appointment. You really can not be upset with the provider in the least for your choice to use an email that was not listed on your p411 account.

The risk of being snared by LEO goes hand and hand with the industry we all know that as a matter of fact the whole USA knows it. Save for certain places where it is legal. [snip] The bottom line is we all know the risk it's a choice to take them no one is making you.

They are your words and very clearly you have a misguided perception. I did search you and you are one of 2 things very very new or have reinvented yourself, I am going to go out on a limb and say very very new due to your posts. I do not know who is teaching you or who turned you out and do not care to know. Here's the facts that I found You have a p411 account with no reviews listed You have one TOB review and do not be misguided if it was not for the gentlemen himself being an established reviewer that review wouldn't account for anything You list on your TOB profile that you used to work for the state and show your face in ads Sorry to bust your bubble I would have my issues providing screening information you asked for as well. Bottom line is this. Some gentlemen will try more then once to get around screening. Every provider has countless gentlemen daily who will refuse to give them the screening information asked for. Just as it's a provider's right to refuse to see someone it is the gentleman's right to refuse to give information he is not comfortable with giving. Let it go and move on dwelling on it and ranting about it on a discussion board doesn't go in your favor nor does making comments belittling other ladies.

I've been a provider for a number of years my advice is if they do not want to provide the information you are requesting for screening or are not willing to provide it what ever the case might be then it is your right to refuse to see them. I'm still newbie friendly and opt to take a moment to explain screening to the gentlemen however that is me and we are all different. However the generalization of ladies who do not screen are "The kinds of girls that would be ok with meeting some guy like that are law enforcement, fakes, flakes, rip offs, and violent pimps." is out of line and an assumption on your part. I can only hope that when a gentleman refuses to provide you with whatever you have asked for you are not telling him this. The ladies that you forgot to factor in and I'm sure few will admit to this fact being established now. The ladies who are new to the industry and do not have someone to teach them how to screen or what screening is and do not know about boards such as TOB ...YET that is and I do mean yet. I was one of the ladies covered in your assumption that was several years ago. Now I'm living in NY seeing the world I however have never forgotten my days of Colorado BP ads and not knowing anything about screening in the least. I was not turned out to the industry by a pimp or another lady and there are a lot that are not they are self taught. So if you where luck enough to after getting into the industry find someone to take you under her wing and teach you OR if you had someone actually turn you out is of no matter. However please do not pass judgement on others in the industry and assume situations it is bad form.

The only site other then "spa" / "BR" specific sites that have a BR specific section is BP. It's not false advertising IMO if fbsm is in the ad and on the ladies site as well as her reviews. False advertising IMO is Pictures are not up to date or not of the provider Services are listed that are not actually offered Saying that they are currently or have been a former porn star OR model when there is no actual proof to support the claim False advertising as defined by law is "The act of knowingly advertising a product or service that does not exist or does not function as represented." So to answer the OP's question no it is not false advertising. If the sites used by FBSM ladies are escort sites with no offer of FBSM specific sections and it is NOT in the site guide lines prohibiting what services can and can not be advertised. It is up to the gentlemen to do their homework on a lady and to know what she does and does not offer.

IMO what a provider makes the choice to offer or not offer is more so based on her taste and comfort level. While some may very well offer Greek based on financial reasons most offer Greek based on as it has been said they enjoy it.