Yogi

[snip qoute]Sounds like they were adhering to truly to the "time and companionship" idea...oh, and booze.

My experience is that the having two moments usually have quite different qualities to them. It can make for an exceptional session when all goes well. So, for me it is always worth a try for that second 'cup of tea.' But, usually the point is gently made that an attempt won't on the agenda. However, when the YL offers, "Oh, happy, happy day!" That said, if the planets don't align despite that willingness and time is growing short and you know it isn't going to happen, then just gracefully lead the ol' Seabiscuit back in the stable. No reason to get butthurt over it (which is completely beside the point these visits.) This whole adventure should be about having as mutually enjoyable experience as possible however possible, then kinda crashing back into the real world a liitle wobbly, very happy and with a knowing smile on your face, yes?

Most of the creative accounting on age seems to revolves around moving the calendar back (30s to 20s, 40s to 30s.) But, I find myself leaning toward providers closer to my age (late 40s.) I find that actually pass on providers in their 20s -- which is a sort of reverse ageism, I know. I've been lucky to have had good health, good genes and have somewhat taken care of myself, so I pass for early 40s & I'll take whatever I can get in that area. But, I'm not counting on being very appealing to early 20-something providers beyond my donation (compared to "most 30/40-somethings....)

Aside from a provider I met in the "real world" when our jobs crossed paths -- it was an interesting two hour meeting! (Everything is cool and we've laughed about it on a subsequent appointment.) Telling even a close friend would mean telling their spouse and their spouse's best friend and so on and on. I don't think people could keep quiet. Maybe some, but you know a couple of glasses of wine or a few beers and "Hey, would you ever guess that Bob visits escorts?" Then boom goes the dynamite... Recently, some of the guys were shooting the bull and something along the lines of "$2500 an hour sounds like a Vegas hooker!" came flying out of some guy's piehole. I bit my tongue and thought, "Oh, I bet there are a number of fine ladies I know would be very please with that sort of donation." The "real" world, indeed....

J - He's joking. -Y

Honestly, this sort of screening is pretty easy to spoof. I probably wouldn't rely on it as a provider. But, maybe there is more to the whole thing than I understand.

Without being too redundant, the value -- to me -- of reviews is the discussion of logisitics. Easy to contact, quick reply, clean incall, good communication, photos are accurate, good grooming are the sort of things that in a series of reviews of a provider, I think, tell you whether there is going to be undue stress. Everything else around the private time is just so random. Trying to count on X happening to you because it was in a review seems silly. I'm not saying that area of content in the reviews is always unreliable, but I wouldn't go into an appointment dead set on something I read happening. If it does, excellent; if not, then you shouldn't be disappointed. Your Mileage WILL Vary!

Both sides are vulnerable in different ways and that is part of this game. As Danielle says, each of us operates at his or her comfort level. Also, providing a fake "real" name is not difficult nor is it tough to spoof a "work" phone number. To me, all that does is create a false sense of security. If someone is whacked enough to do harm to a lady, having his name doesn't seem to bet much of a preventative measure. But, in my limited experience, that appears be a very rare thing in this community.

Went and saw her, too. Very pretty and very nice figure, quite a good experience all around as well. Much more down-to-earth than her website suggests. But, unfortunately for me, too pricey to repeat for FBSM vs other excellent providers in the area.

This is probably me thinking too much with the big head and not the little, but I find that providers who are more detail oriented tend to be who I enjoy visiting -- physical/age considerations aside. Reasonable clients fear being a "time waster" and so do I, but there are cases where the provider contributes a bit to that. Safety is paramount, yes, but I don't know that revealing your incall is in Lone Tree vs Greenwood Village (both place treated often as "DTC") is too dangerous. (Granted, when booking ahead location may not be known.) Anyway, efficient communication is a two-way street. (Of course, now I'm wondering if I'm missing out on some righteous meetings with less detail oriented folks because I'm too OCD... Argh.)

I ran across a BP provider's recent ad (she show her face) that led me to check TOB reviews of her & since the reviews were somewhat old, I went to the google machine seeing if there was more recent information & entered the usual stuff, name, phone number, email address (from the TOB review.) I expect this is pretty standard for a client trying to see if a non-P411 provider is legit, yes? What I expected to find were reviews from TER or other boards, but one of the hits was the provider's FB page. Question: Would it be weird/inappropriate/creepy to email this finding to her (I've not seen the lady, but would like to.) Not trying to be a 'white knight' or anything, just seems like she may not realize the Internet is a small place, but on the other hand she has reviews on TOB dating back a couple of years. Is it just better to leave it be and move along?

There are respectful, discrete, even affectionate ways to let someone know that they might not be at their freshest. If you can convey that you are truly watching out for them, usually there aren't hard feelings. Even the most OCD about hygiene "miss a spot." I'm grateful when someone suggests a mint or such. Sometimes you just don't realize it.

Man runs into apartment. A beautiful woman with a very sad way about her is there. He says, "Honey, baby doll, light of my life, I love you!" "Leave me alone," she says. "No, honey, you don't understand. I did it." "Did what?" "I left her! I left my wife!" He shows her his left hand. There is no ring on his ring finger. She's overjoyed. She jumps into his arms, wraps her legs around him, kisses him hard and long, and they fall back onto her bed and make passionate love. Then the guy gets out of bed, puts the ring back on his finger and says, "April Fools'!" M'eh...

My bad on the link. I was spending to much time trying to be clever. I have noticed her before the re-naming & changing her number. Thanks for the information. Much appreciated.

Ah, heck, why not make it four of the last five posts a 411? So, googled/tineyed up a storm & no photo hits beyond a series of BP ads. Phone number is new (per a note in an previous ad) so that was a nothingburger, too. Nothing here or in the reviews. My best guess: TGTBT, but I'm not going to TOFTT. (oh, cracking myself up...) Has anyone seen her? And who's going to make it five 411 in a row?

Aren't there sections of the TOB site that are password-protected, provider-only and/or member-only "blacklist" sites better suited to sharing this sort of announcement?

...the Internet? http://www.rentboy.com/Listing.aspx?lid=343377&type=escort

Step 1) Join P411. Nothing is bulletproof, but I think Gina has made that method as close as possible -- others may disagree, but not many, I think. I didn't go this route & instead gave providers info they asked for. It worked -- so far -- fine for me, but I wouldn't do that again. P411 signup: https://www.preferred411.com/secure//index.cfm?fx=Client_Add&ref=0 ) Step 2) Find a "newbie" -friendly provider on P411 who will see you without "Okays" but with the P411 account. Be a good client and ask her for an Okay. Rinse and repeat. 3) Get a burner phone, "hobby" -only email account and stick with the "well-reviewed, well-regarded" ladies (there are actually many). You may not see the provider you really want to right away depending on how many "Okays" she prefers, but eventually. That is just one route albeit a bit more spendy than what Pfunk, for example, suggests. Just my two cents. Good luck.

Tranquillo, friend, tranquillo.

Rumor? No offense, but if by "rumor" you mean "dumbest fucking thing this week," then sure... This seems like a pretty ridiculous system for a pimp to employ. It would be very hit & miss to try to block out all these times that might potentially be double booked. Then, they'd have to get past screening for the lady in the first place. AND then have these clients who can't book land with their provider? If someone is so dumb as to try this sort of scheme, then there are probably many other reasons beyond competition as to why their "business" suffers.

I'm finding that it does not take much time to realize there is an extreme spectrum that folks consider attractive -- and by that I mean they are attracted to a certain trait, behaviour or otherwise where "otherwise" veers into unusual territory....one wrong turn on the Internet and suddenly things you just can't unsee.... Big booties seem to be a very vanilla attraction. Anyway, for me, while I have a definite preference physically, often what can trump that is the non-physical intangibles that a woman brings to an encounter. Some seriously epic hours have happened with folks who were not physically in the "range" that fires up my reptile brain, but it worked great. The reverse it totally true, too when a poor attitude or unpleasant personality has zeroed out "hotness."

Post a review...

I use Burner, too. Calling is a little clunky, but the texting is great. Overall, works well & affordable.

Seems like there is really no good way to directly ask, but maybe something subtle like "I certainly enjoy a second cup of tea when I'm visiting a friend." Too lame? Best I could do. But, it keeps things away from the explicit. (& if the provider doesn't get it, you probably aren't getting a second cup anyway?)

Were you ever able to post one? Thanks.