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  1. effy 303-680-5888 Colorado Escort So I was trolling new reviews on another site since I was bored a few days ago and I finally decided to post about this. The reviewer mentioned someone new named Effy and linked to this site: http://www.vipescortsdenver.com/models-2/ which seems like a completely new thing I haven't seen or heard about. There are some random google things up, and somehow I have in my mind that it linked somehow to denverladies (days later I don't remember why I think that). There were some BP ads in boulder a month or two ago, maybe before it got going a bit more? Just thought I'd ask if anyone knows anything! I sure don't and I won't consider looking at more than the pics until after a few from here review it.
  2. Backpage escort section gone

    Maybe you should take the GOP's cock out of your mouth with your bullshit: http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/subcommittees/investigations/hearings/backpagecoms-knowing-facilitation-of-online-sex-trafficking Go watch the investigations and who has been heading the subcommittee for years. Sure a leftwing dem was dealing with the lawsuit, but the senate committee is the one that caused BP's actions here. The religious nuts are the ones trying to take freedom and the ones continuously pushing the crackdowns on this site (go look at how many states were red joining that lawsuit against bp - far more than just cali was involved). Every time those self righteous nuts declare freedom, they push another law and cry religious discrimination. Go look at the places with the harshest anti prostitution laws but flourishing trade in it - often happen to be the red states (thank you kindly Texas visiting girls btw!). So go back and think critically yourself. Just wait for some harsh laws to come down with the religious nuts controlling congress. And please do disagree with me so we can slap you with a dildo in a few years when you're proved wrong yet again. And please find me some reference of a religious republican NOT taking a chance to attack this business? Closest I've ever heard was Ron White talkin about his catholic grandma thoughts on the matter. Not going to pretend the dems aren't crap, but until you quit the bullshit shilling and making excuses pretending it's others, the problem will just get worse.
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  4. Since I haven't seen anything about this in the past few years but it's probably of interest to many people beyond me, let's share what we know of other boards for this hobby. It can be anything if others are interested, though my main interest is in the various regional boards and what is popular where. I found TOB because when I moved to Denver I had been on another board in Michigan that got shut down as I left (which was after the previous two local boards were shut down). I've also found a number of other sites that may interest people - but I hope there's other places people could share that I haven't heard of! I'm looking to do more traveling and enjoying the varieties of girls out there while I'm on those trips, so maybe someone else can share to add to these tidbits I've found. (Sorry, I'm no forum warrior so I won't modify my list, or research much of it beyond what I know, but feel free to if someone is ambitious!) Big Names: P411, Date Check - Guy/gal verification places we know that are obvious and have many people - but it's a paid walled garden (I actually just skim DC, don't know it, and RS9k might also belong here? Don't know) TER, ECCIE - the big names I know of in review space. They are national (maybe international a bit), and they have a setup to make guys post reviews or pay in order to see more than basic details of reviews. Pluses and Minuses to those styles, but I feel it they are both far inferior to TOB. Visiting girls will often go to those sites until someone tells them about this one. Both sites have been the critical link in deciding to see some amazing girls for me - but I'm not going to pay them for it haha. TNABoard - Seems like a reasonably nice board for the Western states. I notice a few girls here sporadically post there and I've checked a few reviews for girls visiting here. independentgirls - Seems like a Florida board, almost exclusively Miami. But it's a great example of what you don't just find elsewhere. Tons of advertising and reviewing for Miami (less but still some for the rest of the state), and most of the girls/agencies aren't on P411, BP, ECCIE/TER. Bestgfe - NE board mostly. Found some reviews and ads and found a great gal when I had a trip to NY last year. Really needed if you're visiting New England. Indys - This seems a random number of states with some traveling gals - not dead, on my list, but I don't remember much about the site except some reviews Nightshift - Think it's a Cali review site. I've seen a few girls linking to reviews there, and a couple of them track with other stuff, but the reviews have generally warned me off the few girls. Might be because Cali is more expensive for less? Lowbrow - maybe good maybe useless? Certainly weirder/older formats: avenue-x, usasexguide - both are harder to navigate to anything useful, especially USG, but maybe something useful happens if you can figure them out? Forums for lots of places at least Other: BP - Obvious but worth a mention Naughty Reviews - This is what I first found and got me into the hobby. It used to be an ok reference, and while it has some pictures and old information up or links to BP ads/numbers, it is completely a scam clickbait thing. Happened sometime in the last two years or so. I never heard what happened Really what I'm most interested in is anyone else that knows of sites like the independentgirls I mentioned above. Sites you probably won't just stumble across without some searching (that I and others may not do for a quick trip). Or TNaboard. I'm certain there's a huge number of other places out there - please share! (Hopefully this doesn't run afoul of rules, but I haven't seen anything that says it does, and the intended purpose is for other boards mainly in other regions than TOB, not suggested competitors.)
  5. Lawyer Recommendations

    You can join P411 if you have enough refs from girls (that's how I did it). Nothing they have is tied to me. Not to say that the FBI couldn't get me if they put all the pieces together and chained together circumstantials, but nothing like P411 just keeping a pic of my DL linked to my account lol. (Though if I lose my account info and email, I'm SOL too) I am confused about why P411 came up at all. I didn't see anything about them offering legal advise and a lawyer to show up! Nothing prevents the cops from turning a girl from P411 - just makes it a little harder than BP. Doesn't matter if you're the first client she screws over or the last, still a bad day for you and we pop back to the original question that I'd like to know as well - just flip over to the modern yellow pages? Google the situation (though if you're in custody I doubt that works)? How about if you're traveling to another city, use P411, the hotel notices and detains the gal on the way into your hotel - or gets the cops to sting while she's be there for a night? (Or whatever scenario). It's hard to find good enough friends that would lie to police for you, I sure don't expect someone I meet here and don't know to keep me out of trouble
  6. Anyone else having yahoo issues?

    Hmmm, it might be worthwhile to make another thread if people want to come up with some general thoughts here if an account gets compromised. Let's say its your play account, but somehow that's linked in backup to your phone number, your phone is linked to... Etc. I just mean that there isn't a best practices from a good webmaster on what you should do in this hobby like there is for everything else. Maybe suggestions, ideas. And of course excuses if you have to feed a line to outside people
  7. Christmas Present

    Sometimes it seems hit or miss going more expensive. I'd say if you go double your normal budget you won't get double. However, going more than normal might get you a certain look you really want. If you go looking at twice the fun, it won't be. But new and different, definitely! The doubles idea is a good one, or doing an extra visit. Or going up in price for someone with a unique look and feel. Often you are mainly getting a certain look, which may turn you on more - or may not.
  8. Hobbying on a Road Trip

    Funny thing because I actually was just thinking of doing that! But sadly it seems a bit hard since there's clusters of good then a big wasteland. So gotta stay in one place a few days or its almost better to see gals at home.
  9. Vanessa 202-705-6310 Colorado Escort She's posting on BP and even here https://theotherboard.com/users/114572 - so that's slightly better, but no more information when I google number, email, or pics. Anyone visit her? If she's from DC I'd have thought there might be reviews somewhere. She looks amazing so I'd love to hear from anyone who toftt or has any info!
  10. Experience

    And it is funny what the definition of gfe IS. I know of at least one provider that thinks its more sitting and chatting with little action haha. I'd call that more a first date where you have to chase down the sex
  11. Experience

    Depends on what you mean by experience. Even most young ones on here will have experienced more guys than most 40 yr old women haha! If you mean treat you to that special fetish you want, you may have to teach any girl of any age that. The younger they are, the more shy they may be to do that.
  12. Hmmm I searched the main image too and couldn't find that! On the other hand, if it IS actually her turning to a new job, wouldn't want to out her. (Seriously, if she's the kind of chick to do Rave pics, it's not an impossibility that she could also be doing this - though a true small likelihood!)
  13. While you purposefully took the funny snark comment there the wrong way, the entire point of ANY forum is unsolicited advice by others. More than half the 411s that saw a girl and that aren't a full endorsement of her or a "she does everything that can be done," are made of "she'd be great if she just did X."
  14. Undecided

    It depends on why you even feel the need to review. I don't think every visit or every new gal needs one. Providers with few reviews need reviews so we can make a decision on visiting. Or if her experience drastically changed since earlier reviewers - either in activities, attitude, or something else significant. While I don't feel all the reviews need to be stellar or terrible, if she has plenty of reviews and it's up and down and you had an average experience, then I just pass on that. With the exception of sometimes on the other sites that require reviews to be in their club to read other reviews haha. But I probably don't review half or more of the girls that I see since their reviews tend to match what I read of them and nothing I experienced was really different enough to warrant attention.
  15. Reviews and price paid

    When did this happen? Or how? As of a minute ago there's still menu items on there - maybe explicit ones? As for here, the answer is a solid yes from what I know without saying why I know (isn't the age of Trump great now that there are no facts or evidence needed?!) ^This 1000x except for the rocket surgery part. Go ahead and cut into a rocket and find out what happens - after I'm a couple hundred miles away. (combined explanation below) The next logical step is website, p411, and other review sites. But I swear to you on at least 3 occasions with separate girls, I've seen different rates with a spread of almost 1/hr difference across 4 different sites that were all her ads! Even recently there's a gal that just visited with 3 different rates posted. But for anyone reading, I've found now that it really is easy to directly ask: what is your donation? I find that much easier and better than bringing extra $ - even that has problems associated. I've certainly seen girls that would kick you out if you did that, thinking it's a LE trap. It's also less taboo than asking what's on the menu - though sometimes I've done that despite hurting doing that. The only time I've found it acceptable to straight up talk money and ask rates and more is after round one has started in earnest. Really that's a TERRIBLE time to do it though, so AFTER meeting for a while haha. I REALLY miss that item too, it was really good and helpful, it still exists in other places that may be irrelevant to the Denver scene.
  16. Review Discounts

    ^^^ Absolutely. I won't ask for a discount, but I'll sure be happy if she wants to give one or something special because I'll review. I'll be honest. If she has no reviews I'll often offer to review or help her understand stuff here without looking for anything in return. The only slight twist is that if she offers an hour and I like her so much that I might want longer (if it's available). ^^^ I think I do a mix and I appreciate a mix. I'm not looking at the 9/10 or so-so rating when I read reviews. I'm looking at if she's legit and what she likes/dislikes/allows/refuses with a slight eye on enthusiasm in general. I think I gave a review a while ago of someone; she was bad at scheduling and fell asleep, then called me back and I still went. She wasn't a good time for what I was looking for, but she was legit, not a thief, not a scam, and I even noted in my review that she didn't advertise like she offered anything different. I noted all of that and said it wasn't for me but might be for someone else. There are a few girls though that I've chosen not to review even though I didn't have a good time. There was no spark or wow factor, and I could go on and review her, but it's not like she lied or cheated me because she wasn't as good for me as I hoped. The problem, which I fully accept that you guys may attack me for right now, is in one or two girls I've reviewed at some time (don't think they were both here), that tried, I didn't have a great experience, her pics were hiding a bit, and I gave her a shaded good review. Why? Because I described that she was legit, tried X and Y, and had a great attitude - no mention of no wow factor or anything. Or another gal that I still really feel annoyance for but I didn't feel my personal annoyance rated almost an attack on her - she wants to be GFE, wants to talk for a while before and after and not jump to fun, talk in the middle, and then will say that everything has to end 15 min before the end without warning and basically stealing away that part of MSOG. It still REALLY irks me, because she could be about my ATF if not for that! But it works for some guys and she's not really lying nor trying to go for 5/hr so I'd rather let her have good reviews and just move on. In short: I feel it's just better that everyone be complete in reviews and let me decide when I read several if I want to give her a chance. Feel free to say you felt no spark even though she tried every position for an hour and kissed you like a HS gf while you laid their doing nothing. Even if you give her a resounding NO, I'll read that review and decide that she might be just what I like! No provider rebuttal is needed with honesty since I'll see what I like in what you didn't.
  17. I've seen 3 main reasons for name changes: just feel like it (which includes other providers using something similar), trouble with clients/LE/similar, or trying to hide bad news about her others have found out. The third is the big one to watch out for and worry about. That's why on the 411 side we're checking pics and numbers and such because there are plenty of scammers and crap to stay away from. Offhand there was a Katie Creme or something I think was the biggest name I've seen of switching names and numbers and still scamming people (or ALL of the Denver Ladies ads on BP). I've seen a few just up and change their name, not hiding anything at all in the process, sometimes even getting reviews moved with her name. It's a stage name, no worries. The middle one is difficult to navigate and you can see why, so nothing to say on it. But pick your reason and know what you need to look out for!
  18. New photos

    Absolutely. But I answer myself pretty quickly - because she looked terrible in her pics or didn't show what I wanted to see! Specifically I remember one that I kinda regret missing (money and alternatives a year ago), Kelsie Blaine or something I think. Her pictures didn't look BAD, but they gave me the wrong impression of many things and a friend of hers that I saw got her to post newer, better framed pictures that were great. There is the alternative, thankfully not as frequent here, that she looks really good but the framing managed to hide a HUGE amount. Which is why I tend to look at faces quite a bit more. I've found that I can easily misjudge a girls weight based on angles and lighting, but if I get attracted to her gorgeous face then I can far more easily forgive her a couple extra pounds from holding her breath haha. Probably not 30+ lbs or more than 20% of her weight though! Hiding her face hides a huge amount though (notice how much the bp girls ALWAYS toss in words about beautiful while more of the girls here you can see it without question), and I'm probably going to skip out on the visiting Russian girls because of it (I was going to post some examples here, but they don't belong with the beauties here haha). There are plenty of ladies on this site and others that I recoil in horror looking at. Which are probably the same ones some guys are drooling over based on the amount of reviews haha! I definitely DO have a mile long list anyway. Here's my process though: -I skim through the ads on photo view and see what image kind of catches my eye, then I see if the title/post catches my eye (especially if I've seen her ads and pics on here before this is important). Sometimes it's the special, the sauciness, or just something different. -Then I'll probably glance at her pictures before reading her ad. I'm looking to see if there's some hint to her menu (doesn't have to be explicit, but finding GFE helps). -Around here I'll check for her hourly and see if it matches something I'd think as reasonable (that's a whole other can of worms though, but basically there had better be a really good reason and specifics if I see anything over 3/hr or I'll move on). -I'll also check her reviews about then, since maybe activities aren't advertised or anywhere to be found - a couple reviews in agreement tend to get a reasonable picture of what might be ok or not ok. -Then I'll look at the pictures again and see if she might be something fun in the way I want. If she's hiding her face it makes it harder for me to want to see her and might put her to the maybe category here (like the check back for more pics or a special). I'm estimating that for me, not showing her face could be worth over 1/hr alone! It sounds weird, but I start hesitating to see anyone over 2.5/hr unless she shows some amazing look or body type that I REALLY want and has stellar reviews if she is hiding/blurring her face. It's certainly just an estimate and not even a rule - I think I've gone as high as 3.5 or 4/hr on one or 2 girls that have had blurred faces and I've still been passing on 3/hr that show. Even 2.5/hr is a bit hard to justify, but that's the point I start getting interested in seeing someone new that doesn't have to be as perfect to what I'm looking for. I'm sure that's different for different guys - I'm even sure that a few years from now for me that may be up to 5/hr. (But I completely respect a gal's privacy and understand pretty easily why you'd blur your face! I just thought it was interesting because I finally was able to think it out fully as I was typing this). As a random example, I thought that MissAdriene was a good example here (I just happened to be on a page with her ad, not promoting her): She has pro glamor pics, regular pics from different angles, a headline that says something (that she'll be back anyway, it's still informative), has posted rates, and though she doesn't have a menu, her reviews say enough. However, Audrey, I think your ad is generally better and what I like to see! And I've watched your ads for a while in fact. But it even does come down to the specific topic here and what I just said - I see your pics and I am interested, but I see other things in your pics that make me hem and haw. I'd rather be polite and not say more here - because I'm sure for many guys or me at another period it would probably be just fine! If nothing else, thanks for making a great ad/profile to show others how it should be done!
  19. Ya, I'd suggest that this be moved to another forum. Personally I'd be interested in all sides to the story since I'm always looking for different providers and getting a good head for BS that reviewers write (just get to the private mens sections in ECCIE and look at the whoppers of stories and BS they make up their for epien haha). But if you've prevented reviews, then a guy can't attach it to your name as far as I know. If you want to prevent traffic or thoughts on your location, the google maps location on your contact part of your webpage may not be a great idea (unless it's a couple blocks away, then ignore this). Even if you allowed reviews, and I don't know if/how you can prevent on some sites like TER/ECCIE, you certainly explain them away. Reviews let guys like me consider seeing others - no reviews and I worry that it's either a bate and switch or just wonder if you offer what I want. Good luck in any case!
  20. Reason not to repeat

    Finally decided to chime in even though everyone's probably stopped reading haha. There's an easy way to tell if you should repeat: how much do you want to? Or a reason to not repeat - almost any reason! For me it's always a shifting scale of reasons. I've found a few great providers recently that I want to visit again, but there are great visitors from out of town to try. For some of the ones I wanted repeat with, that's stretched on for over a year! (So I probably won't be going back). The more difficult thing to deal with is the "what ifs." What if that gal I liked would just do X, or not do Y. I have one provider I'd love to see that doubled her rate since the start of the year - but even though I saw her twice I don't think it would be right of me to just email her and offer to see her for an in between rate. So my politeness or rudeness may prevent meeting again. Another provider was great even though she wouldn't do certain things I'd like - but more she turned into a time waster and pretended that GFE and 1 hr meant that she would talk for 15 min on either end and basically take MSOG off the table that way! Or a provider that drove me wild that even now advertises as GFE but really wasn't on the days I saw her - maybe her moods or maybe not? So how would you go about asking someone if they will do that one thing you really want? Would you throw good money after bad if there's someone that's a bit better? Or just the excitement of someone else? I do appreciate a girl that knows/remembers some of what you like, but variety can be such a great thing. I'm really glad sites like this TER, and ECCIE exist so that we can all try that. Sure, sometimes your real fun won't bloom until after the 4th visit. But with this hobby I can just jump around and maybe get lucky with a girl that does that. Or maybe next time is more of a wiff than I wished. It is interesting to see how everyone views it differently, and I think it's a gamble for everyone. If I were on the provider side, I'd certainly say it takes 4-5 times to really get it great. Even if it's not great by that time, you've probably taken more from that guy than you'd get from me bouncing around and trying everyone new! I guess at the end of that random wall of words: Just do what you feel like since I have no idea how to make that one girl do that one thing that I really want. And if she did it once, she might not do it the next or the next girl might. But if she does just what I want after learning it, and takes more money from me than all the girls I've visited through the hobby, then maybe stops - well that's a wife for you!
  21. 411 on Harley 3182

    Thanks for jumping in. I wrote a review on Autumn a while ago. Not what I wanted but certainly not a fake or my worst ever. PM if my review didn't say it all. GL! Yw
  22. Providers Texting Customers?

    Well that's why you spend a LOOOONG time figuring out if your apps work. I had to help a friend that wanted to send group texts but for different but similar (lol) reasons he had to keep each person from seeing other's numbers. I think we took several hours and the first couple times he tried it, it was definitely sending everyone else's number out every time in a group text. HUGE problem. Then there's an article somewhere I'm too lazy to go look up about a professional shrink that couldn't figure out why all of the sudden her clients started getting facebook suggestions to friend each other - HUGE breach to know who might be visiting your shrink. That one was a facebook problem since all clients had her email or something. But BIG difference. Which is why I try really hard to have a separate phone and all that going. All that effort might go to waste when someone messes up like that!
  23. 411 on Harley 3182

    I think this is who you mean - Autumn 720-907-5817 maybe? http://denver.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/100-hot-redhead-grab-all-this-b-ty-1-provider-up-late-available-24-7/21019856 and maybe this: https://theotherboard.com/forum/index.php?/topic/36612-411-on-autumn/ or http://backpage.com.denver.listcrawler.com/post/15888212/# But when I look at the pics, they just look REALLY similar and both were posting at the same time. I think they actually may be different girls that look quite similar in fuzzy bad photos. I'd been meaning to ask everyone else about that, but this thread will hopefully do so. Or I misunderstood the question!