Hunter VanDyke

Honestly I'm not sure if everyone can connect to pms/appointment requests. They can get to my profile/website/email which will give them screening information needed though. I only use the site for advertising not screening. Maybe some other providers/clients can chime in on that.

That's not the percentage of my clients, but for your circle of like minded people, I'm sure that is correct. Only thing is we don't all live in your echo chamber. The reason electronic payments increase daily is actually because of client requests, and not the other way around. For those of us who accept them, we are accommodating our clients. It's a mutual interaction, and it really doesn't matter what other clients or providers that aren't involved in it think. Everyone can make up their own mind in all things pertaining to this industry. What you can't to is force other people to do things the way you want them too. No matter how many times you try or how many people you rally in your group. Too many providers who aren't thieves accept the payments, and too may clients that aren't thieves prefer those type of payments. I prefer cash, but I'm not locked in box with one payment method. I'm flexible and that serves me well. I could care less what everyone else chooses for their payment method honestly.

All is good. Thanks everyone!

We only get 1 negative daily. Lol. I think it's like 10 positives and one negative a day. Keeps us looking on the bright side I guess. 🌈 Gotta make sure the negative is really worth it because someone can come back after and say something we dislike even more. 😂

Thank you bolder for doing that, and for letting me know. I'm happy to hear it, and I appreciate it. 🙏 💙

I've been able to pull up the site on chrome since this morning, but I still can't get there clicking on the link through my TOB profile. I'm being patient. 😊

If they're working half hours for what you pay Mikey, they will have to do A LOT of appts to cover their expenses and make a good profit. Think about what you pay a provider, and think about how many clients she has to see to make a 1000. She has to be pretty busy. Being "busy" does not mean making more money. A provider in my rate bracket only needs to see 1 or 2 clients to get us there. That leaves plenty of time to spend how ever we like.

Hugs to you @average1 and you and your family @Mustang87 💙💙💙

Hugs to you and your sis 🥺

When I go through my browser no warning, but if I click the TOB link it's the warning. Someone let me know the warning was still popping up through their browser this morning, but they can now bypass the warning.

The p411 link on my TOB profile still goes to the warning page

Cue the Twilight Zone theme music 🤣

That's what I was thinking. Do we log in or nor log in? 😳

Thanks for the info. That was helpful. Hopefully it will be resolved by morning. 🙏

Thanks

But how would clients know?

I really believe clients think the members they see posting and writing reviews, and they share pms with are all great guys. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

And for the providers as soon as we collect deposits from all clients there will be honor among thieves by your logic. I like it. By far the biggest thieves in the industry, unfortunately are clients. It's only because of TOB rules that it appears it is providers. It would be page after page after page if we could pubically alert client profiles in the forum. If we can't here, then we need to start reporting the profiles pubically elsewhere. You are a thief sir. You hobbit. The one who books appts and cancels last minute, and does not pay the cancelation fee all admitted and bragged about by you. Robs There is a TOB rule about lady drama, but of course no rule about clients inserting themselves in the drama, and bringing it to the forums. Of course.

And for the providers as soon as we collect deposits from all clients there will be honor among thieves by your logic. I like it. By far the biggest thieves in the industry, unfortunately are clients. It's only because of TOB rules that it appears it is providers. It would be page after page after page if we could pubically alert client profiles in the forum. If we can't here, then we need to start reporting the profiles pubically elsewhere. You are a thief sir. You hobbit. The one who books appts and cancels last minute, and does not pay the cancelation fee all admitted and bragged about by you. Robs providers of their income because that can see clients who show up. You are the very reason that more and more providers switch to RW info screening, and requiring deposits. The reason the tides are turning in the industry is directly because of members like you. You and those like you can take ALL the credit. Less negative reviews, higher rates, more blacklists for behaviors that weren't blacklisted before but should have been, requiring deposits, requiring cancelation fees, screening with RW information...these are all thanks to members like you. I say keep doing what you're doing. It's only to my benefit in reality.

I'm so glad they included stalking in the bill. We are major targets for stalkers. Most providers I know haven fallen victim to stalking at least once, if not multiple times.

Hopefully, lesson learned. If you know someone has a history that caused a banning BEFORE you vouch for them, please don't vouch for them to come back to do it all again.

What is the difference in giving details in a PM vs writing a review? As a provider, I would much rather know what details you're giving out to God knows who privately. A lot of TOB members are really bad guys with multiple blacklists, but we can't call them out pubically where everyone can see who they are because of the rules. Only you guys can do that. Personally, I'd prefer it in a review, but that's just me. Also everything g you said about a review that was negative, can be said about a PM. I'm not knocking you for not doing reviews. That's your choice. Just giving my perspective on the PM thing because yall don't know each other.

Hugs sweet woman

Nothing to do with the topic. A fine example of a side rail to a thread. You have an uncanny ability to do the exact thing you try to call out in your posts. It's astounding really. 😄