Mandrewthe4th

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  1. 22 hours ago, Just Another Guy said:

    I know this will sound dumb, but when the listing has more question marks than actual letters, it rubs me the wrong way and turns me off. Yeah, I know it's dumb,  but without anything else to go on...

    Lol, that's the same way I feel.  Like is she asking if she has silky smooth skin?  Seems like a thing she should know.

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  2. Don't trust that instagram, some of the pics were on the instagram of another YL before she was banned here and took hers down.

    Provider was LovelyLiz23, and her personal website was the instagram for "Msistoleurbitch". (https://theotherboard.com/users/132156)

    Interestingly enough, one of her 5 followers is bcynott.  This photo is the one I recognized seeing before at first.

    This bad boy was for suresies on Liz's IG, I remember the tickets

    And last but not least, this one looks pretty spot on to Liz's hair (and is another duplicate photo)

     

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  3. 8 hours ago, sb1212 said:

    Fair warning.....most ISO posts are met with an admonition to use the search functions available on the site.  Also, the population of providers who have listings is, IMHO, small enough that you can view the vast majority of those that are active and current in a relatively short time.  Its a fun and enjoyable read.....

    Now that we don't have "consenting adult activities" or whatever the field was I feel the iso search isn't as strong as it used to be.  That being said, you can still search for attributes and go from there.

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  4. On 8/16/2018 at 6:21 PM, a_happycamper_12 said:

    Thinking I wanna enhance my response.

    OP pasted a link to a YL who had reviews and a profile. (BTW, I might just visit her) Also, poster has numerous inquiries about providers. At some point, we need to do our own work. I didn’t get to see and review a “ few” ladies, plus the lost episodes by having others do my investigations! 

    I partially agree.  At the time where OP posted the 411 she would have had 2 reviews, which to me isn't enough to establish legitimacy.

     

    Don't get me wrong; a big part of the game is figuring out how you want to meet YL.  I've got a review on a cutie who is considered to be a unicorn for many and sucked at meeting up with 90% of people; but because I tried I ended up having a decently fun time.

    Point being I think people need to get better a critical thinking.  My review for Raven was because *she* sent me a message in regards to her 411 - wanted to establish she was legit.  With no reviews was I going to believe it was a svelte cutie who was texting me back?  Nah.  But was I willing to have a conversation because she was acting like an adult?  Fuck yea.

     

    Tl; Dr. Everything is different and people need to get better at determining what they are cool/not ok with from a prospective provider.

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  5. On 8/16/2018 at 7:22 PM, bettercallsaul said:

     

    I think this is the intended purpose of the TOB 411 forum. 

    I'd say 2 reviews is few enough to inquire within the community for advice.  

    There are plenty of profiles that we find out are in fact, not legit.  Kudos to OP for ASKING for assistance, instead of begging for forgiveness.

    Agreed.  There's a couple times where people (usually providers) respond into a 411 thread and think that because a YL has 1 review the 411 is unwarranted and people should be talking to the one reviewer through PMs.

     

    Sorry, but no.  If we don't feel comfortable with a provider, we get to ask.  And if there's overwhelming evidence that the person in question is real then the community will point that out.

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  6. On 7/8/2018 at 1:25 PM, lakerboy24 said:

    Thalia Marie 573-590-1766
    Colorado Companion

    Hey fellas and maybe ladies, does anyone have any details on this incredibly gorgeous girl? The p411 link shows that she is a "verified provider" although idk how reliable that is. My God is she gorgeous though. If anyone has any info please let us know!!! 

    https://theotherboard.com/users/131433

    I don't have a P411 so can't follow her link really; but it's pretty much considered the bee's knees of verification in the industry.  If I see a lady on here with a p411 then it basically tells me they are legit.

     

    That being said, I have met a provider who said she would login with her friend's credentials but I think that is few and far between

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  7. On 7/3/2018 at 0:49 PM, SabrinaLynn aka KatieCreme said:

    Would you send her a picture if she asked you for one?

    If she can give me a good reason then sure.

     

    However, I can't really see where a "verification photo" would be needed from me.  Client side doesn't really have to deal with whether or not we are who advertise to be, or whether the look is genuine.  When I've asked ladies for photos, I specifically make sure to tell them I'm not looking for nude or lingerie shots.  If they don't advertise with their face I haven't asked for it either.  It is literally just a tool to verify some who either doesn't have a review or who I am concerned might have self-reviewed.

     

    Waaaaaaay back in the day Justina Carter did ask me for a picture of myself; and when I got back into hobbying a YL asked for pic of my ID (with all but my face blocked out) and I followed through...We all have to pay our dues in the beginning.  

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  8. 22 hours ago, gb0138 said:

    Sounds like a good system. 

    Yea, I think mountainrider has a pretty good one.  If a non-reviewed girl isn't down to do that she's either fake or probably not the type of person I would enjoy conversing with between bcd activities.

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  9. 13 minutes ago, mountainrider33 said:

     

    I actually started adopting your style of verification when it comes to ladies with no reviews, and was the main reason I actually ended up meeting with Raven.  I asked her to send two pics with different hand signs of her choice, and then as a last step asked her to send another two as full body pics/showing her ad tattoos and doing the same hand signs (partially because I realized they still coulda been stolen).  When she obliged, it made me feel confident enough to move forward.

    Had another provider last month who wanted all the verification from me, but wouldn't oblige to me asking anything of her.  Of course the no reviews was her choice (according to her), but that means it gets to be my choice to not proceed.

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  10. Given she was responsive to text, I wonder if she would be willing to send verification pics?

     

    Like others, I get the feeling she's TGTBT.  But I had that feeling with Raven too, and she was exactly who she looked like (just incredibly inconsistent with the game), so who knows.

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  11. Jade Grey (970)587-3858
    Colorado Companion

    Jade Grey

    https://theotherboard.com/users/129303
     

     

    Anyone seen her or have any knowledge?  The one file doesn't hit off Google Image search or Tineye, though I also feel when I use the links on the page that sometimes it doesn't get hits when other posters say they recognize 'em so I have to take those results with a grain of salt.  No hits on the phone at least.

    Sent her an e-mail a couple days ago, tempted to shoot a text tomorrow and point her to it as a second shot since I haven't seen a reply.

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  12. How many times does he have to apologize for the mistake?  I mean Jesus Christ, he says sorry for the mistake from being a newbie and it's like a circle jerk to keep making the guy feel like shit. 

    I sure hope none of you make a mistake down the road; if you're this intolerant of a newbie you must literally lash yourself on even minor spelling typos.

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  13. 9 hours ago, Amber720 said:

    So I think this goes along with YMMV. 

    Cause If I'm into someone, the session will be better than when I'm not super into them but still having a good time. 

    And I'm one of those providers that give you more the longer you're with me. Ask anyone who's been with me on overnights or longer hour appointments because you get the chance to explore and talk through it. 

    The rate thing is sometimes just laziness or the misunderstanding of adding things on. 

    YMMV comes into okah A LOT more than people think

    Just my 2 cents

    Sure, sometimes it's YMMV, but in this world I'm not going to book anything that costs me $100's of dollars when there's any sort of confusion what's going to happen.

     

    Like a chart that says an 8 hour appointment is $X...but then specifically lists the sessions as a 7hour max.  Is it 7 or 8 hours?  Sure, that's a minor typo...but my customers expect me to proof my sites so I have to expect the same of people I'm going to do business with. 

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  14. On 6/13/2018 at 2:28 PM, pejo said:

    I think we're really saying the same thing. Your website has everything I would want to know before providing my info for screening. What is tough for me is when there is no way I can find out beforehand whether someone's rate is $100 or $600 per hour, and whether they are in Denver or Ft. Collins. Providers with nice websites make that part way easier for us clients. 

    What's even worse is when the rates make absolutely no sense.  I stumbled upon a providers website while reconning her ad and for a 2 hour outcall she had 3 rates listed - $X, $Y and $Z while her actual rate was completely different than those three!  No difference in service, just a lazy website.

     

    Or I'll see ones where a longer appointment is LESS advantageous.  Like a multihour might be double the hourly plus more tacked on...providers like that make me want to ask if I can just book two of the one hours.

     

    Granted, I've run into a provider who allows more in multi than single hours, so maybe that explains it...but given the rest of those ladies' content I think it was more inattention to detail than anything else.

    As someone who expects a provider's website to be accurate the majority of the time, I will just take anything there as fact.  So if a rate is wrong, I may miss out because of it, or same with if she doesn't really give an idea of if she's one of the influx of FBSM providers or if she's got more to offer.

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  15. I can see both sides here (menu first and screening first); however I always ask what screening a provider would like from me and let them know afterwards I'll have those questions.  Because I am a big fan of meeting ladies up North I always also include that I will be looking for an outcall up here as well so if she isn't up for that we don't waste our time.

     

    In my opinion it's just kind of setting the terms of the meeting.  Its your business, so you get to pick whether or not I can have a taste.  But before I do I'm going to make sure I'll like it!  Plus, I respect someone who is upfront and I feel like the providers I prefer will appreciate that as well.

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  16. Colorado Companion

    http://fort-collins.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/gfe-experience-23-years-old-es/890406590620

    lisagilson365@gmail.com

    Looking for info either on this young lady or Skip the Games in general.  Haven't really used it but a separate 411 took me to the site and I had to check the listings for science.

    I didn't find any hits on her pics, but poor Engrish in an ad always sketched me out.

    Semi-tried to check TOB for her but I seem unable to find a phone number on her ad and I can't seem to search off just the e-mail (at least under reviews, I know she isn't an active poster at least up north)

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  17. On 6/5/2018 at 9:58 AM, BabyDikMoFo said:

    I tried to schedule with her yesterday. Asked if she would be available in the evening. She responded “maybe later”. I asked what time and she said “I dunno and outs only”. Based on cold responses, I’m assuming the multiple profiles is the result of bad reviews and decided to take a pass. 

    Would love to say you're wrong but I think you're pretty close to the money.  

     

    Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the lucky ones who did get to spend time with the girl.  But while she was here the conversation also made it sound like she had gotten into the business from a referral and was using that login at first.  Add that to the fact that I'm starting to believe more and more she has a manager (she commented how much she liked her blue hair and wasn't super excited about going blonde) and  that when she heard I new cute girls around CSU she wanted to meet and recruit them.... just points to more reasons to not try the hardest.

     

    If anyone in this thread sees here walking down the street and has an opportunity to make a deal; go for it!  Otherwise....probably a bit too hard to consistently meet up with her.

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  18. 7 hours ago, BadBoy said:

    I think some folks needlessly jumped on the OP - I think it's a fine idea.  For example, after five visits, get an extra hour for free on the sixth visit (or some variation thereof).  Remember folks, the reason so many restaurants/stores/ etc. have these programs and cards is not to reward the customer, it is to retain the customer.  If I were a lady trying to figure out how to hang on to regulars and encourage more visits, I would be all over this promotion.  Well done grasshopper, you are wise beyond the years evidenced in your avatar

    I agree.  As a client, I'm "torn".  I've always looking at the other providers; if I'm going to give a donation to spend time with a YL do I always want the same experience or do I want something new?  Providers offering these cards are a good way for them to convince us not to try something new, to stay with just them.    I've actually wanted to ask my ATF about such a program but didn't know how to do so without sounding super rude; especially because she always gives me killer pricing on the final hour with the 4 hour sessions I do.

    Double post because I couldn't get the quote function to work within "edit" for my previous post, and I'm not sure what the script is to type it out on the forums myself.

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  19. 7 hours ago, gr8owl said:

    Many years back i suggested escort trading cards cause after all how many guys here are just little boys at heart and weren't baseball cards fun? 😎 To get a lady's card have to visit her. Collect em all! Then can be sold or traded. Too bad it did not take off. What would a Melissa Sterling rookie card be worth by now ??? Or special edition "best of" card, mvp etc. A Hollander original issue! Think of it people!

    I kid. Mostly. Pretty much. Or not.

    I like the idea, like the cards from the Strip with.....strippers on them.

    Maybe there's even a special boon you can have for the card.  Playful way to do a returning customer incentives.

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  20. 9 hours ago, Everhard said:

    <Sigh> I never said the forum was "real life", nor did I say that the forum carried more weight. Those are your words not mine. Not going to indulge your judgments of my motives or reasoning further.

    Don't worry, I get where you are coming from.  This is an industry where either party, provider or client, can just get fucked over if the person on the other side isn't who they say they are.

    If you don't feel comfortable there's enough info there, then reaching out and asking is the best thing to do.  Don't let others browbeat you like you're a dumbass.  There's a shit ton of providers that require at least 2 references; apparently it's bad form to care about your safety equally as much.

    For the record, I don't care if someone has 6 reviews across 3 years.  Now that there is absolutely no information besides "Recommend?" it all comes down to whether or not I can get a real verbatim from the reviewer. 

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