Mandrewthe4th

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    I had a plan to meet with her Friday night, and provided a deposit for travel.  I was asking for a 2 hr drive so a deposit seemed valid.

    Jewel matched the requests for photos of "verification" I asked for, and sent some other inappropriate ones as well.

    The last message I got from her was confirming I didn't need her to send her live location (she supposedly couldn't figure out how after offering it) and to trust her.  

    Not even out a tank of gas for the deposit, so I'm taking it as a lesson hard learned.  Maybe she's just a flake, but I feel it may not be the case.  I've tried to reach her twice since and give her the benefit of the doubt that something happened, but no reply back.  When another member reached out to me about her Saturday and confirmed they were communicating it pretty much showed me her colors.

    If she is a legit, flaky provider then I hope she gets a little more coordinated and becomes a mainstay!

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    I messaged her a few days ago, found her posting on Eros, where she was listed as a traveling provider.  She replied that was in error and she actually resides here; is trying to fix that.

    Didn't move forward as the outcall for me was too far for her to be interested.  But the rest of the interaction at least *seemed* ok

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    5 minutes ago, pfunk said:

    Kinda guessing here, but the providers may be viewing you as a time waster.  Three or four calls/emails, and no request to set up an appointment? I'm not surprised you get ghosted.

     

    I shortened it to just a synopsis; but before I ever ask about reviews and such we've gone over appointment details - length, travel/time for the outcall, etc.  Then the review/rate question; as I need both of those pieces of information to actually lock down a booking.

    There's a *single* service that I'm checking is provided, and it is one that is regularly called out on reviews, such as DATY or DFK.  If the provider doesn't offer the service it's nothing against her; but I also know I won't appreciate/enjoy the booking as much.  In my time hobbying I've only done a single booking without that service and it's because I didn't think to ask the YL until she was already 1.5 or 2 hours on the road to me; so I just kept on trucking and learned my lesson 

     

    And rate is pretty self-explanatory; need to make sure that we're not getting into an unreasonable situation.  I prefer to live in a cash world for this; I think most others are the same.  With banks being still kind of derpy, it's ATMs that supply me with the bill.  If I think a provider is 300/hr and we have 4 hours planned; I can spread it across three days and be fine.  But if she shows up and it's $400?  YL feels misled because I'm only going to be able to do 3 hours; and because of daily limits can't go get the rest.

    With all that in mind, you may be right though.  What I should probably consider doing is getting all the details penciled in, and then asking for those reviews.  To me, that feels like fishing for an excuse to get out of it; so haven't been the biggest fan.

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  9. Posted

    6 hours ago, Phil-anderer said:

    Some other good advice on here.  As for the asking about 'reviews', do your research first!  I never reach out to someone if there aren't reviews online that seem legit, and honestly, unless there are a good 4 or 5 good reviews, and from people with cred, I don't even reach out, no matter how hot someone is.

    A bunch of reviewers with 1 or 2 reviews I disregard as meaningless.  I just saw one profile with probably 10 reviews in a row from reviewers with 1 single review.  Uhhh, no thanks.

    I agree with BadBoy.

    Oh believe me, reviews are what I like to utilize first!  It's one of the reasons my main site (ok, really only site) is TOB.

    What ends up happening is I lurk the 411 forum, and everytime have to check out who the others are asking about!  Then I peruse that site, see an interesting provider, and try to do research.

    The ladies I was referencing the "issue" with both come from a well developed, maintained, and used site.  They've been active for a while, and are at least "certified" as being who they say they are. I don't believe the site has reviews, and any "legitimate" site won't let someone advertise anything illegal.  Yes, I can search by phone number - but unless that YL is on a site with free reviews I'll just run into more of the same.

    Once I've exhausted the research I can do, I reach out.  I'm always looking for an outcall to N. Color, if you check the ads for our area you'll see it's pretty dead compared to the middle.  So first email is pretty generic, asking if that's something that is a possibility, as well as to let me know what to do to verify.  We get passed those two hurdles, and I simply ask the YL if there is a place where I can check out the reviews for her booking/appointments, and to followup on rates if that isn't already established.

    That message, which is usually the 4th message or so, is when I get "ghosted".  I do consider it to be just a peril of the industry; and consider that it to be for the best.  That being said, always want to learn from mistakes and get better

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    4 hours ago, Coflyfshr83 said:

    If you’ve been verified as legit most providers will be willing to give some basic info. If this is important to you just kindly ask if they’d be ok with that once you’ve verified. I would not personally see a lady for an hour who didn’t do msog but to each their own. I do like these threads though because some of the ladies responses definitely have informed me of who not to visit. 

    Yea, that's what I try and do.  We send some messages back and forth and then I ask them if there is a place I can check out reviews/activities they enjoy (and literally call it that so there's no "this for that" sort of legality question) and rates; need that info to make a booking happen.  Then just nothing

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  11. Posted

    What do y'all find is the best way to broach the BCD activities function?  I'm getting back into the hobby world and it seems like my approach is getting me ghosted.  As is I confirm they would outcall to my area, and then ask for rates and either how to have a discussion of activities they like to enjoy; or a link to reviews I can check out. Last night two ladies from  [some other place] just ended all communications when I asked it that way.  

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  12. Posted

    I think deposits are completely fine for a provider to ask for, and completely fine for we as hobbyists to chose we aren't comfortable with.

     

    I've had a couple ladies drive from one side of the state to the other for our booking, and never was a deposit required.  We confirmed upfront what travel charge should be, and I guess the fact that I present myself as legitimate, meant there were no concerns for either party.

     

    There's been an ad or two where I was tempted to provide a deposit for the YL, and never pulled the trigger.  If I were to ever get burned, I'd consider it a lesson learned and move on 

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  14. Posted

    Sooooo....not a 411, just a post to say lots of people there are fake?

    I think the majority of people can figure that out by simply looking at STG; the ones that can't quickly remove themselves from the pool with the help of LEO.

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  15. Posted

    9 hours ago, Prayforrain said:

    Call me the Geraldo or Morton Downey Jr of the board. I think there’s a lot of folks - probably mostly gents - who have the same questions I have.

    The only people that have these kind of questions are the kinds of hobbyists that should be blacklisted imo.

    Not because of the question you asked, but because it's so blatantly obvious that it amazes me someone would need to ask it.  Of course providers offer "loyalty" rewards, or allow one type of booking session for one customer and not another.  Hell, getting drinks off the clock counts as a "special treat"; are you really telling me you couldn't think of that yourself?

    Anyone that truly cannot figure something that basic out is someone I would be afraid of breaking confidentiality in a pretty broad way.

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  17. Posted

    Lexi 970-473-4530
    Colorado Companion

    Never actually used any site besides TOB, but end up on some of the others because of the "Web" links for some YL.

    Which lead me to Lexi

    http://denver.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lexi-beautiful-bombshell-bangi/955871522179

    I did an image search on the pics and hit nothing alarming.  When I searched the number it turned up just her ads.  The only thing sketchy I could find was that on one ad she looked a *little* different in one photo, which I'm not sure means much as I'm not the best at evaluating pictures.

    Any help is appreciated.  I am very biased towards her being real as the scene up here is pretty dry, especially if you're more of a spinner fan.  

    I've already started communications, but want to either verify she looks legit "enough" to TOFTT or bail the eff out.

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  19. Posted

    I can't say anything about Kylie, but I have been interested in her before, so I am a little biased in hoping that she is legit.  But even if she is, I highly recommend a lot of wariness around the meetup.

    Having seen a different lady who is now banned, I can say that sometimes they are legit, they've just broken a different rule.  However, that can be indicative of other reasons not to meet up with someone.

    The girl I met was great, and we had a wonderful season.  2 hours and at 1:50 she politely reminded me that we had 10 minutes left and said anything we started would be finished free off the clock.  Then she hung out for a bit afterwards.  Deserved the 5 stars and more.

    That being said, what she did to get banned, plus the fact that she clearly had a manager, tells me that she makes the kind of choices that will eventually get a Leo involved.

     

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  20. Posted

    2 hours ago, Naughty Mike said:

    I have seen her a few times. PM for details. 

    FBSM only - no upgrades that I am aware of. :cool:

    The only reason I've never booked with her.  Should she ever start offering any other services I will probably beat down her door.

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  21. Posted

    53 minutes ago, NoCoGeezer said:

    I'm skeptical. 

    Aside from the TGTBT photos, account was created back in 2016, no activity or reviews on TOB, CO phone number in ad turns up nothing, 619 area code number in profile turns up nothing as well. You'd figure if even just OK, there'd be some review and or ad out there in the last three years.

    My feelings as well (though I didn't peep the year of creation).  Didn't get any hits off of her photos though.

     

    That being said, one of my reviews from last year is on a girl that is like the same situation as this [could be].  Her friend gave her an account that wasnt used too much; few ads and no reviews.  Once it's given over photos change and new girl posts ads.  411 pops up on her and she actually posted in the thread that she was legit so I decided to take some chances (and had her do some additional verification) and TOFTT.  Had a great time. (Then she got banned shortly thereafter for the whole given account thing and drifted off)

    I'm 99% sure that she ain't legit, but because of the 1% left over did shoot her a message on TOB.  No reply yet

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  23. Posted

    5 hours ago, Just Another Guy said:

    Maybe... but when the OP asked as "anyone seen her in person", gotta wonder where he thinks the reviews came from? 

    If you take everything at face value in this industry you're just being ignorant and unsafe.

    Don't troll on a guy for asking a valid question.  As one of the mods already pointed out, lots of times that point is irrelevant in reviews because people dont care.  I've seen reviews where it said pics were accurate and the description stated it was s completely differently lady.  If someone does their due diligence in researching a lady and gets a worried feeling (especially if shes a model in a different state) then they sure as shit should reach out instead of crossing their fingers and getting screwed.

     

    Could he have asked one of the reviewers directly?  Sure, and that probably would have been a better option.  But given we are in an industry that's rampant with stings, fake/self reviews, and scams let's not pretend that just believing what you read is a smart idea.

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  25. Posted

    2 hours ago, BadBoy said:

    Hey, OP, no offense, but you do realize what FBSM means, don’t you? Also, as one reviewer said, “no hands in the cookie jar.”

    If you don’t, PM me and we can go over what you can expect.

    Other than that, she looks gorgeous and legit.

    Her most recent ads list services more than just FBSM so I made the mistake too.  I probably should have dived further into the verbatims but I just saw the Yes's from people with a decent number of reviews and was ready to schedule a booking.  

     

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