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We also should keep in mind that our context here is from a 411 standpoint where we look at a given prospect from a critical eye. I posted the ad to get a sense of community reaction to it, like we all do in this forum. I even suggested this one from a standpoint of “it might be a scam”. Looking at things in this angle, I see nothing wrong with reacting to the ad in whatever way makes sense. I’ve seen 411 postings here where guys have responded very negatively because of how the provider looks in her photos but nobody ever blinks an eye there.

I had been hoping to make her acquaintance and I finally did so today. As always, I’ll be sure to write a review but if it helps, any... I honestly have no idea what all the hush and whispering is about.

You make a good point. I may have not even noticed since I've seen so many ads over the years with the cheesy "I'm better than her (up arrow pic) and her (down arrow pic)" or whatever. In any case, I have my doubts that this is even a real provider behind this ad.

If you back out of that negative review, there are actually three reviews, in total. One negative (with responses to it in agreement) and two positive reviews so I wasn’t totally clear about my using the term “confusing”, but that is why. “Conflicting” might be a better term. In any case...I went ahead and took one for the team here and will be writing a review for TOB. For now, I’ll just say that I have no complaints.

Lindsey 720-399-8636 Colorado Companion Anyone see this girl yet? http://denver.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/ig-euty-must-s-must-hav/586167589835 Image searches raise no red flags. I’ve messaged her a couple of times but she’s not terribly prompt with her replies. That’s not necessarily abnormal in this hobby, though.

Thanks. The responses are a little confusing there. It sounds like she’s legit but wasn’t enjoyed (with no details as to why). Hmm...something to think about.

Thanks, Kaduk. The consistency is there, it seems, to support the idea that it’s a traveling pair and maybe more comforting. Still, my curiosity went from TOFTT to “wait and see if someone else TOFTT” when I got what seemed liked a silly response when I asked about other verification methods (P411, TOB, references, etc.). Just a little too vested in this gift card idea for my comfort level.

I asked about other verification methods and it got to be more nonsense. Still curious but not enough to move forward on that one.

My personal experience is it's not pee. It doesn't have the scent of urine and is tasteless (I'll just assume urine has a taste).

It does seem really crazy to me that someone would want to have outcalls to his home and then scam them. Edit: As I think about this...it's really, amazingly crazy or dumb. Like wanting to be caught. Why would anyone do this?

Plenty of independent Asian providers use their own real pics. However, I've never seen a "house" (brick and mortar massage, spa, etc.) advertising Asian women use real pics.

I've reviewed a girl who ended up becoming banned either during my submission or shortly after. It's too bad as she really was fantastic and she stopped traveling here because she saw TOB as an anchor for working in Denver. Enough so that she felt it necessary to try submitting multiple self-reviews. I don't know if that is ultimately why she was banned but I did see the red flag show up on her profile sometime between my review submission and the point where she ended up banned. She was a bit too impatient with wanting to get established here with a good list of reviews and tried to take the fast track. It doesn't necessarily mean she's a bad person to spend time but the banning was still an appropriate response.

Here's a good writeup of some of the differences between these apps (https://www.magnifymoney.com/blog/news/zelle-fraud-protection-need-know-transferring-funds/). Most people think "electronic" = PayPal and any other names are the same thing. Venmo was originally marketed as a way to pay your friends at the dinner table without having to have a waiter split a bill up. There's no protection with Venmo, Zelle and CashApp. These apps were made to act as cash given to someone trusted or seen in person. PayPal was created to delivery money to someone at a distance that you can't see and may not have 100% trust towards so protection may be desired for those transactions. Venmo and CashApp are the preferred choice for scammers that want you to pay before the session because they know you can't get that money back when you find out the provider doesn't even exist.

Yeah, I'm not really sure what the background to it all is. I'm under the impression that PayPal, CashApp and Venmo were used in this post interchangeably as one and the same thing.

I’m not so sure that canceling a bank payment to Venmo would cause a reversal against the payee. Once you send that transaction, filing a claim at the bank level is no different than using that method to get out of any bill owed. It’s no longer the payee that is in question. It’s the payer filing a complaint against Venmo or CashApp. It would also be hard to make that a regular practice and it’s asking the bank to do a fraud inquiry. In any case, I’m not going to argue that anything is fool proof but that includes cash. We talk a lot about an electronic trail being usable against you but having a large amount of cash on hand can also be. It gets used against people involved in drug busts all the time.

I know that Paypal transactions can be reversed if they're not "Friends and Family" transactions but neither Venmo or CashApp allow reversals. I specifically use Venmo for occasional online sales where a person wants something I'm selling shipped to them. I don't accept PayPal for these as it opens the door for them to claim non-receipt (even when tracking info says otherwise) and get their money back and keep the item sold. Also, for those unaware: There are settings in both apps to allow your friends to see your transactions or not. It's on by default by I always turn those off.

I got this recently too...a provider that will only accept prepaid gift cards that she says will be verified upon meeting. It definitely has me wary but if it’s verified at the physical meeting, I struggle to see how it’s any different from a provider that counts the cash up front. Don’t get me wrong...I am definitely as suspicious as I am curious.

Yeah I wasn't necessarily meaning CashApp and Venmo are the sole signs. I wouldn't PayPal or whatever anyone ahead of time. I'd agree and call all of that a scam.

If I think it out loud, I'd say I really like cuddling if there's a certain "warmth" of connection there beyond the need for physical release and stimulation. Truthfully, though, I think I like it best when she just cuddles with me. No offer of it, or feeling it out. Just doing it.

I’ve been seeing a lot of these postings where some CashApp or Venmo is expected before the session. Keep in mind that CashApp and Venmo transactions are non-reversible. I’m not saying that all providers that expect this are scammers but I wouldn’t trust it.

I've found this to be true for myself as well. She posts an ad at seemingly random days and times and if she replies to your text, that's the only window of opportunity.

I’m certainly no urologist and I won’t try to explain any connection between weight and prostate size but my need for Flowmax went away when I got more serious about fitness and lost a bunch of weight.

It’s been some time since, but I was once on Flomax and no provider I saw ever found it concerning if the topic came up.

If you’re open to hiking, Kenosha Pass is a very popular place to go see the fall colors. It can be quite dazzling. Closer to town, Evergreen like Staunton State park is great too.

Thanks for the comment. I was never really too worried about it. I just hadn’t heard of this black listing at the time but the provider turned out to be a “here today, gone tomorrow” sort. I wasn’t the only one who had the same experience with her, according to her reviews. When I look at reviews here, a negative review from a reviewer who’s been around for 3 months and has written 4 reviews won’t really mean much to me, if anything. I assume it works the same way in reverse.