The Oxymoron

It's not an "opinion" that BV often shows up during sex, it's a known fact. Your two finger dip check won't have helped you, should you ever find yourself in that position. I find it very interesting how you seem to think you are the authority on pretty much everything related to the sex industry, even though you have little/no first hand experience in most areas. It's actually pretty entertaining! You should probably pull your head out of your ass and start having respect for those who have had a little more experience in life and/or the industry then you have. Or not, whatever..... lol.

I can't wait until the tables are turned..... on you. And the odds are against you, Miss Nikki! The reality is that a women usually has absolutely no idea that she has BV, until she is in the middle of having sex. It's humiliating, and mortifying, and fortunately easily handled. A truly professional provider would stop the session once it crops up, refund the client's money, and go get her medicine.

Unless her nose was broken, I think there was no need to say anything. She was probably mortified and quickly figured out what was wrong and how to fix it (if she didn't already know). It's exceedingly common, and really embarrassing.

SMFH

It was probably BV (bacterial vaginosis). Which tends to rear it's ugly head right when you have sex. It is not an STI and it has nothing to do with being "dirty", in fact it's often caused by douching and feminine sprays, in other words over cleaning. http://www.cdc.gov/std/bv/stdfact-bacterial-vaginosis.htm So it's likely that she had no idea there was an issue until things got going, particularly if she's never dealt with BV before. I've been there, more than once, just as most women will be at some point in their lives. It's not the end of the world, I'm sure she'll get herself fixed up and if you are concerned head in and get yourself checked out.

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Just because we're active in this industry really doesn't mean any of us should belittle ourselves by using derogatory terms. It's okay to think better of yourself, even thought you are partaking in a (somewhat) sleazy and deceptive lifestyle. Personally, I don't think of myself as a "hooker" or "ho", even though I don't mind those words and have used them many a time in my past. I try not to carry myself in a "sleazy" way or act in a "deceptive" or dishonest way. That might be one of the reasons I've done very well in this industry (and in life in general), even thought I really am nothing more than a gutter ho. The problem is though, most of the women in this industry have issues with self esteem. The more the community speaks disrespectfully towards these women, the worse they feel, and the less likely they are to rise up out of the sewer that a mind can create. So I am all for eliminating negative and disrespectful comments towards women and/or providers in general. However, as I said before I'm not going to hold my breath either.

None of the women on this board refer to clients as "johns". None, that I am aware of, anyway. The word "john", I've actually ONLY heard clients say. I'm not saying that the women don't use it, maybe they do, I just don't know any providers who actually call clients "johns" (or "tricks", for that matter). The most common term in this day and age is "client" or "hobbyist". Also, "john" really isn't the matching name for "hooker". "Trick" would be the corresponding term imo, and "trick" is indeed a somewhat insulting term. Just as "hooker" is somewhat insulting to many. However, I'm not particularly bothered by the term "hooker", but I grew up in a world where "pimps" and "hos" and "tricks" all coexisted. The word "bitch" was also pretty standard, but used by the pimps, not by the clients. The clients normally called us "working girls", but we called one another "hos". If a client were to call us that, he'd likely get a face full of pepper spray! Even though I don't mind the word hooker or ho (or bitch, for that matter) or trick or john, I do realize that some words are insulting to others. Therefore I don't use the more "ghetto" terms that many find insulting. I do make an effort to be a decent human being and I see no benefit in being annoying or insulting just for the sake of it. Personally, I would like to see the insulting talk gone from the boards, but that's probably not going to happen. Not going to hold my breathe anyway! People who feel it necessary to be hurtful to others really aren't worth any energy. Those who use insulting terminology knowing full well that there are those who are offended by it, is just a show of a person's character. Just my opinion of course... and do note that I offend more than my share of people as well. I just don't mean to do it...

So far this thread hasn't veered too far into the FUD... so let's try to keep it that way, so it doesn't have to be closed. Hundreds of thousands of people are living (and hobbying, don't kid yourself) with all sorts of communicable diseases that could change your life in a not so nice way. Including (but not limited to), HIV, Hepatitis B and C, Herpes, and so on. Ebola is scary, for sure. I'm concerned too... but there is no reason to irrationally freak out. If you were handling the bodily fluids of a sick person who recently traveled from that part of the world, then you might be warranted to freak out. Otherwise, stay calm!

Looks like this BP provider has a good handle on how to deal with the Ebola risk....

There are no reviews on P411.

When I first came on the scene (circa 1997) there were probably less than 100 escorts active on the very limited number of message boards in operation at that time, and the boards were pretty much completely unmoderated. Even back then, a provider named Eve O'Hara here is Denver had someone following her on the boards, posting that she had AIDS. This went on for a good couple of years, and even though I appeared on the scene in the middle of that drama, I was one of the many who were accused of being the "AIDS poster". Needless to say, there were far more vicious battles going on back then, sans moderation, than you will ever see today. IMO anyway..... what you see here is minor stuff compared to the past.

Aw come on, don't spoil my fantasy with 2Big!! Seriously.

REALLY????

This same topic was started a few days ago, HERE

It's "411", not P411. (edited for you)

Farewell, dear Barbi.

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And with that, this one is closed.

Absolutely correct. However, it never hurts to remind guys that the term "stalker" is used (usually by women) any time unwanted attention is given to them. So it's quite easy to be labeled a "stalker", even if it's really not the right term to be used. Example 1. : Good looking rich guy asks attractive female out, she calls it dating when talking to her friends. "Oh Michael just asked me out on a date..." Example 2. : Nerdy broke dude asks attractive female out, she calls it stalking when talking to her friends. "Can you believe that nerd is stalking me!" It's not fair, but in this community the term is loosely thrown around as well, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. The bad date sites are FULL of "stalkers" who 9 out of 10 times are just guys who got no response, so sent 4 or 5 inquiries. Or who got an ATF, showered her with gifts, and then didn't take the hint when she stopped responding to him. Please note this comment has exactly nothing to do with LegalEagle's request, or my opinion of whether he is "stalking" her (which I don't think he is, but it IS the kind of behavior that can get a person unjustly labelled).

Quite honestly, providers need a two call system so that they can be sure that the person prior to you has left, before you start knocking on the door. It gives them the opportunity to delay you for a few minutes if they happen to be dealing with one of those guys who stands in the doorway chatting (and not taking the hint it's time to vamoose!) Also, some clients are notorious for showing up way early, eager like a beaver! Which rarely works for the provider regardless of whether there was an appointment immediately preceding or not. It give her a way to control the traffic a bit. If a client told me to come to a check point, I would be quite certain that he would be sitting somewhere watching me arrive there, jerking off while I made an ass out of myself while the final address was not given. Whether that would actually be the case, who know. But I would feel very uncomfortable about it. So there is no way I would have ever gone on an outcall without having a specific address.

Who said I was only referring to the men???

FWIW, some of the creepiest, most disturbed, people in this community are those who spend a good deal of time hanging out on the "boards". The ones who don't hang out on the boards are far more likely to be normal guys/girls... and that's one of the many reasons why some providers say that they don't want to visit with "hobbyists". Hobbyists often think they are somebody special, because they have a handle and have x number of reviews or posts. I don't know LegalEagle, and I have no clue if that applies to him. But I can tell you from experience that the pool we are swimming in here is quite polluted with egos and drama and entitlement and self esteem issues. And I am quite aware that I'm part of that pool too.... I'm trying to do better though.

Agreed.... although I don't know if "stalk" is the right term. I have to admit I have often thought that "where is she now" posts should not be allowed. If you can't find her, it's likely for a reason and that absence from this world should be respected. If the provider pops back up, then that would be the opportunity to reconnect.