Dweller201

Fox should ask why we have 10k women in one spot who need to do this.

It would make me feel sad and I'd start looking for a new relationship.

In pussy, we can, sorta, trust.

It's not that much of a conflict! I hate the whole shaving thing because it's part of a syndrome I noticed as a kid. It's a technique designed to keep women constantly anxious and off balance. A woman has to have a certain kind of hair, makeup, clothes, smell, and it all has to be perfect or she's a failure. I thought it was a technique to depower women and it turns out that this famous book mentions the same thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Second_Sex That book is worth reading. Recently, I've seen the same thing happening to men, who now getting into the same anxiety filled rituals as women. It was supposed to be that women would gain the same freedoms as men, not that men were going to become women. Rich people want us to be slaves to consumerism and feel inferior, dirty without their products, and so on. Thus, I hope we all reject their constant fads.

You lack insight and fail to see that what's considered "hygiene" in bourgeois culture is actually obsessive neuroticism. If you study judaism, for instance, the orthodox branch requires women to shave their heads and wear a wig, shave their genitals, engage in countless rituals including how they get into bed and all of that is because women shame a god that DOES NOT EXIST. These pointless rituals exist because people are terrified of each other, terrified of life, mainly its pointlessness. The extremely nervous make up bullshit to do then they impose it on those around them. The same goes for people obsessed with "germs" and hygiene, all of which is an offshoot of religious thinking in my opinion. They're totally ignorant people who don't know that we, our food, and nearly every surface is covered with shit (every time you flush atomized shit goes all over the room), bugs (dust mites all over you), and bacteria (everywhere). You think you're clean and she's clean when that's just nonsensical ego. The shaving argument earns instance moron status with me. It's about making people look like a porn movie and that's it. Middle class women don't want to admit their men want them to look like a porn movie and started the BS hygiene argument.

You are delusional. When I worked in prison I knew inmates who saved staff from getting injured and even [snip]. All of those inmates were convicted murderers. I admired them for it, but still they were all career criminals, gangster types, and their good deeds didn't erase all of that. Cops are gangster types too and most get into the field because they like violence, guns, etc not because they do good deeds. Lots of military guys, trained, volunteer professional murders decide to become cops after they retire. In Philly, I knew the chief psych for the police and he would give all new cops the MMPI (personality test). He told me that MANY cops showed that they were sadists to the point where he had to fudge results because they'd have no new recruits. Don't believe what you hear on TV; cops and criminals are two sides of the same coin, always stay away from them.

Yeah, it's a crazy story. But, it's a good example of authority causing misery all around.

Thanks! When I was younger I used to think nonsense like, "If only I had a redhead, I'd be happy," and then after I had one, she was much the same as any other woman. The same goes for boobs and whatever else I could think of adding to the list. I believe all of that was generated in me by the media. The people who run it objectify women and put them on a pedestal. So, the "hot blonde" is what you MUST have and are a loser if you don't. That stuff got in my head and escorts cured it! Now I'm like, looks are important, but there's no specific type, and a nice personality is king.

I work in psych and there is no single reason why men see escorts. I have a couple of good ones though. 1. I've dated a lot of east coast career bitches and they won't do XYZ. Like you can't EVER get a well done blow job. That is a horrible waste of my life and thank god for professionals who actually know what they're doing. 2. When I was younger I thought different types of women, redheads, etc would be a unique sexual experience. It was easier to get an escort that fit the bill rather than seek the variety of women out. This allowed me to discover that looks mean very little and that certain types aren't better than others. Thus, I like a broader range of women now and am more focused on personality. 3. This is my number one reason: seeing escorts is honest. I will not hook up with women I meet in a bar because they may end up thinking I really like them when it's more about sex. Worse than THAT is I might end up falling for them when it was just about sex. That's going to hurt my feelings and fuck me up. With an escort you've got an honest deal and an emotional understanding about what's going on, so no one gets hurt or used.

No, I've known a lot of cops and even have several as friends, here, and I know how they think. They enjoy spraying people, seeing people squirm, and so on. Cops are soldiers and it is their duty to behave ethically. A good example is that cop who sprayed the Occupy students on that college campus. He got orders to spray the kids and then after he did developed a suicidal guilt complex about it. Cops busting victimless crimes need to think about what they're doing.

Exactly! I've known lots of cops due to my work, and I respect the dangerous aspects of their job, but most seem like morons to me. The old definition of a "moron" was a person who appears normal and competent, but really can't think beyond the surface level. For instance, they spent decades persecuting people for using substances which are now legal. If you look back, all of that was WRONG and an injustice because finally people voted and said they don't care because the behavior is harmless. Intelligent people would not want to repeat that same injustice regarding other behaviors, like prostitution. Prostitution is WAY more harmless, and possibly healthy, as compared to substance abuse. But, no, let's not look at it with logical, let's find new people to persecute since we can't attack the old substance users anymore.

If you can explain why, then I'll respect you, if not you're just butthurt. If you step back, you're mad because I can explain the history of female body modification, and you can't. That's sadly anti-intellectual. Leave the cave, bro.

You've had a hissy fit! You should do some reading on feminism bro. My comments are on topic because we're talking about a fairly recent fad that is rooted in both new social forces, porn, and in very old ones, wanting women to look underage. If women stop buying into their own degradation, then hairy pussys will make a come back.

You've got something wrong with you if you need to shave your armpits to avoid smell. OCD? Also, you are ignorant to the history of shaving and cosmetic use for women. I'm not making up my own theory but stating fact on the topic. There's a huge history and lots of writing on the topic and you should check it out. As I've said earlier, in the Hebrew religions (judaism, christianity, and islam) there's a strong focus on marrying VERY young women and there's STRONG misogyny. Women were forced to remove signs of age to appear like the ideal of getting a very young person who the man can shape to his desires, instead of an adult woman. Europeans were notorious for NOT shaving because they resisted the influence from the mideast and rejected the religions, social control, and economic control. Meanwhile, the US became heavily influenced by it and that's why we have all the shaving, circumcision, money obsession, and other perversions. The porn industry is huge here for that reason and that's where the current shaving trend came from after porn exploded in the 90s.

Thank god! All of the female shaving is designed to make women look prepubescent, which is pretty fucking perverted if you ask me. I'm conditioned by society to expect no underarm or leg hair, but I can still see that it's bizarre that women are expected to hide that they're women. As a man, I can't believe men shave their chests because when I was a kid that was the gold standard of manliness. I noticed in the 80s that the media started attacking men severely and it then became bad to be masculine. So, the same thing happened to men as happened to women, they should not look like an adult. Now guys are removing signs of puberty and are in the same boat as women, slaves to cosmetic maintenance. Anyway, you post warmed my heart, which is housed in a chest covered with a very pleasant amount of hair.

Nope, your reasoning is incorrect because it's uninformed. Public hair serves a function in mating while those other things do not. The hair is a source of, and helps trap, scent, namely pheromones. Meanwhile, it doesn't matter if you have hair on your face because that's just a cold weather adaptation. Anyway, women have a far stronger scent than most men and if the area is "clean" then the power of the scent isn't there. The point of the scent is to create bonding with males she gets excited around. If there's little of no scent then she's just a thing he had sex with not someone he connected with on multiple levels. I wonder if that accounts for an increased lack of interest in relationships and concern for women. I've noticed that with many people I talk to, they just casually have sex and don't seem to see females as special. You have to think about what I've said. Humans are moronic and have come up with many moronic fashions over the course of history. Imagine if it became popular to wear nose plugs or rose colored glasses all the time. Suddenly, major sensory input is blocked and reality becomes different.

Nope, it's actually a perverted mideast religious custom.

I don't want cleaner. The body evolved the way it did for a reason.

I'm an excellent painter and that sounds like a fine idea. Good luck!

You remind me of this Chinese movie I saw about a wondering warrior. He wanted the same thing as you and I was impressed because I'm pretty much the same way. Interesting to think about what everyone really is where our labels are removed.

Sweety, I'm all out and don't know where to get more, or you could have some of mine. But seriously, it has been a hard road for me and it will all likely get harder in the near future. Fortunately, I've been meeting some nice people recently at this great bar I go to and in spite of their drama I get some friendship. AND, I know what you mean by "love" which has nothing to do with sex, right?

I was gonna say that. Good job.

On a related note... This girl I know showed me picture of her boyfriend. He was naked with his penis out and it was a gross sight. He has a white fatty body, like a person who is not an adult, and everything was shaved. He looked like a grub with a human penis attached. I don't think guys should shave because most men don't have muscular definition and end up looking like they aren't adults. Some trimmed hair makes you look like a man. Meanwhile, I remain traumatized from that photo.

How the hell did you find that! I love some of links you guys post.

Yep, great answer and I figured it was something like that. Thanks for being open and honest. I'm always fascinated by what different things mean to people.