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In this case it is. 100%. Would be a slam dunk. As long as the details are correct: 1. Provider (even previously seen) contacts client 2. Provider asks client to set up an appointment 3. Client sets up appointment 4. Client shows up at provider incall OK, I should offer a caveat to my "entrapment" statement: At this point nothing illegal has occurred and the client CANNOT be arrested for anything. Now if a #5 occurs where provider and client engage in sexual activity AND it can be proven that the client paid for it then the client CAN be arrested, but this case would be tossed easily if the prosecution even mentions #1 & #2 above. That is 100% entrapment. Besides, the concept of LE using a provider just to snag a client is a joke. Similar to using a drug dealer to call a customer, get them to buy drugs just to arrest the customer. #1 not worth the effort, #2 so full of holes that a back of the phone book attorney could beat that one. Sorry, file this whole thing with the stolen kidney story. I know there is (for sure) at least one attorney that is a member on here AND posts occasionally. Want to offer an opposing argument? =)

Oooh.. What if you ask a provider to call you..... Is that provider solicitation solicitation? Sorry. I just had a lot of sugar.....

Yep. It's entrapment. Total BS. And, yes, I CAN give legal advice.

Hey, I am with you, brother... OK, not on the endurance athlete thing - unless sex is an endurance event... =) Was in great shape until an injury a year-and-a-half ago, finally back in the gym and getting back where I was hopefully in time for next ski season!!! Anyway, share that list via PM!!! Not that I am looking to go wild for 2 hours solid; I see sex as enjoying a good Scotch: You don't just pour a single and drink it down. You slowly warm the glass, carefully pour the nectar of the gods and then enjoy each sip... Not like the youngsters who walk into the bar and order shots of ..... wait for it..... Tuaca! For god's sake, people, it is a liqueur! Have had some good chuckles with bartenders (FEMALE bartenders) after guys like that have had their shot and left </pun>. =) Then again, hot and sweaty for 2 hours solid is sometimes called for. That goes back to another topic of yours - I think we, as gentleman, have to be willing to properly compensate a lady with a pre-activity dinner plus the time that dinner takes...

Economic natural selection... Let it happen...

I am thinking the point that some are trying to make is this: a) Provider is taking birth control & working Provider & SO decide they want a baby c) Provider stops taking birth control d) Provider keeps working e) Provider becomes pregnant f) Provider keeps working I believe the question lies with "d' as opposed to "f" Basically if (!d) { return 'ok' } =)

"Yet when I google the number and pictures, I come up with nothing" Should have been more clear... That is what I was commenting "seriously" on. Just googling the number & pics brought up lots of results that indicate something is amiss to say the least.

"Me and my friends are on AFF soooo you can find us all on there if you want" BIG red flag... Questionable photo hits... Seriously???

"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes." - Morpheus Should have made it red...

Heh.. I just trust everyone equally... But seriously.. A lawyer? OK, 5K just for a retainer.. 20K to see the inside of a courtroom... For what? A defamation lawsuit? What are her assets? Negative net worth I am sure. Oh and, wait for it, you have no case because it is true! Seriously I swear most guys, based on their posts, if a guy walked up to them in a bar and spit in their face they would offer to suck his dick too... When both testicles drop you will figure out that you actually have control over who says what about you...

Expect basically the same as being issued a "fix it" ticket. Basically a bench appearance summons. Show up in court on x date, pay a fine. Have a nice day. That should be 95% of the time. IF the nice officer asks any questions respond simply with "I invoke my right to remain silent and will only answer questions with my attorney present. Please contact my attorney." Don't add the part about your attorney if you don't have one AND know his name. You will just sound stupid. And no you don't have a right to a public defender if you can afford to play in this hobby. And don't invoke your 5th Amendment right because it doesn't apply here. See the part about sounding stupid again. Don't argue your case; LE doesn't hear legal arguments. Once you invoke your right to remain silent, REMAIN SILENT. Any responses to questions after that could be considered as a waiver of your Miranda rights.

Heh.. She is just the only one who is up front about it. Think the ladies can't (don't) take your pic surreptitiously? It is so easy with today's tech. Give me your license plate number and a face pic and I can tell you things about you that you didn't even know. C'mon guys; stop snuggling with a false fuzzy security blanket that if you don't give any info then your identity is safe. Even the dumbest girls on BP can sort of figure out how to use a smart phone camera. How hard is it to snap a few pics without you knowing?

Meh.. It's like "gambling"... Don't play with any more money than you can easily afford to lose...

Ya, late start and all that - and not counting a few "trysts" in Vegas in the past; just the past 5 months... Hobby Hopeful If I find the right lady, Hobby Happy Good Time Guy, is a pretty easy probability by the end of the year. Maybe nudging into Hobby Lovin Life. Finally got most of my online poker winnings....

Bingo! ALL business is governed by certain constants. One simply has to decide whether they want to cater to the lower quality, lesser informed breed of customer or the ones with the real money. =) The more money a person can spend on a car, the lower percentage of MSRP they will pay. So 100% of a $25K Chevy or 80% of a $105K Mercedes... You decide. Those who can afford to spend more are much smarter with their money and while we don't mind dropping $1K+ on a session, we do know when we are being taken. So it is more likely that someone spending $300 for 2 hours rather than $100 for 1 hour is just someone that just got their tax refund and has some extra cash. They are still going to be the same idiot that consistently hunts for the $80/hh ladies on BP and we are going to hear the ladies that see them bitch about so many guys negotiating rates, trying to bypass screening, blah, blah, blah, blah.... Kinda "you get what you pay for" in reverse.... But what do I know.....

Ya, I'm not griping either. Just observations on the folly of man... But let's be clear: Business is business is business is business. Period. And business is EASY if one just gives it a little thought. The problem is that the vast majority don't. What are the real reasons for charging more for longer sessions? In order of least-most likely: - Likes shorter sessions (IOW hates what they do - don't lie) - Greed (IOW sees a guy with $$$$$$$ and gets greedy) - Because math (IOW $250/h + $200/hh = $450 for 90 min) - Idiocracy (IOW the outcome of a formula designed to generate the least profit from the most work) So here is something that the ladies CAN safely answer: Raise your hand if you wouldn't want a respectful gentleman regular that sees you 1-2 times per week for 2 hours (rather than 1) @ 1.8x your hourly rate for the 2 hours? And one who will spring for the occasional dinner date & overnight..... The quality customer with more disposable $$$ is going to be consistently more respectful, more reliable (when biz is slow, they will still be there) and will smell better! =) To anyone that wouldn't want that (and to the TLDR crowd): "Welcome to Costco, I love you..." Maybe when I grow up and have built a multi-million dollar company people will take my business advice.........

Here's the way I see it... This is a service industry, like any other service industry - bars, restaurants, hotels, etc. There are certain restaurants & bars that I frequent AND I have a few friends that own bars & restaurants so I know a little about this from both a customer perspective as well as from the business perspective. Establishments that I frequent take good care of me - often this includes some sort of discount; whether it is an occasional free drink, free dessert or just plain better treatment. They do this not only because I am a regular customer, but also because I spend more money than average (think paying for longer sessions). Ladies that do not take care of customers that are willing to spend more money than average are making a big mistake IMHO. Sure they still make money, but I also know of lots of average restaurants & bars that just make money too, but have to work awfully hard to generate anything resembling decent revenue. So if someone like me wants a multi-hour thing, or an overnight or a week or whatever, please oh please jack up your rate and get all greedy-like. Just makes my decision easier as I move on. Any fool can make money. If you have a halfway decent product/service customers are easy to find. Quality customers, on the other hand, are harder to find and MUCH harder to keep. And this is not about being cheap. I happily spend money and happily more than compensate people. Just stop in any area Carrabba's and ask about the bartender that got an all expense paid trip to Vegas (stay in a penthouse suite @ Bellagio, etc.) with NO strings attached as a tip. If they have been around for any time, they have heard the story. =) Then again maybe I am just an asshole with too much money. Don't care. After all someone has to shop at WalMart, right?

Yep... <sigh>

Cocky by Kid Rock Or maybe a few Whitesnake tunes: In the Still of the Night, Slide it In, Slow an' Easy and Spit it Out

I think this says it all. And to chum the waters some more.... This just adds to the dilemma that a newbie like myself faces. First I didn't want to write a review because I had no basis for comparison other than my own expectations (which, in hindsight, should have been enough). Then I didn't want to write reviews because I would have to be honest - I just cannot be any other way (the main reason I also don't generally post) - and I worry that the ladies aren't going to give me references if I give them less than a "very good". Now I have to worry the other direction that if I don't write a review that I am not going to get a reference? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!?! I guess that means I am supposed to just write a "very good" or "fantastic" review no matter what, right?

OK, I never post though I have been lurking for a while, but I can't not comment on this one... When I moved from Lakewood to Westminster and "lost" my regular massage therapist, I started and stopped my search with Summer. Unfortunately I have never gotten anything beyond the absolute best massage I have ever had. Wasn't expecting anything anyway. However, if anyone is looking for a really great massage, Summer is incredible. Draping is to your comfort level - which means largely non-existent - and she is not shy. Her technique ranges from strong massage when needed to sensual, flowing strokes that will leave you relaxed, euphoric. All that and the fact that she is b-e-a-utiful......!!! Otherwise, personally, I will not see anyone else for a therapeutic massage, but I may need an "appointment" with another lady after. ... re-enage lurk mode ....