Verification

[Cindy.Exotic]

The whole point of verification is to make sure everyone is protected and feels comfortable moving foward . It's there for safety, not to make it difficult. 

[Raine-7379]

There are gents on here that advocate not to screen to keep provider safe.  

[Kegacy59]

We live with AI at this point, how do you even verify the information being provided is even real and not AI? AI can fake anything and make anything.

Most people at this stage care alot about their privacy and cant control how their information is being stored and used once they send it to a stranger.

Making someone send a selfie with their ID, address, work information, business card is strictly one sided protection and only makes one side feel comfortable, if the aim is to have everyone feel protected and safe then IDs sharing should be 2 sided.

Edited January 18 by Kegacy59

[Raine-7379]

1 hour ago, Kegacy59 said:

We live with AI at this point, how do you even verify the information being provided is even real and not AI? AI can fake anything and make anything.

Most people at this stage care alot about their privacy and cant control how their information is being stored and used once they send it to a stranger.

Making someone send a selfie with their ID, address, work information, business card is strictly one sided protection and only makes one side feel comfortable, if the aim is to have everyone feel protected and safe then IDs sharing should be 2 sided.

There is another post in regards to screening, I suggest you go read it.  

Another man telling us not the screen because he has to much to lose will fall on deaf ears. 

 

[Developer]

1 hour ago, Kegacy59 said:

We live with AI at this point, how do you even verify the information being provided is even real and not AI? AI can fake anything and make anything.

Most people at this stage care alot about their privacy and cant control how their information is being stored and used once they send it to a stranger.

Making someone send a selfie with their ID, address, work information, business card is strictly one sided protection and only makes one side feel comfortable, if the aim is to have everyone feel protected and safe then IDs sharing should be 2 sided.

It is your right to ask for the same level of identification from the provider you wish to see. Screening is always a touchy subject because both the provider and the client have everything to lose. You need to roll with your gut and intuition on what is and is not right, just as the individual needs to do.

To the same extent about AI, you could also fake your own information to a Provider and could very well be LE or posed as someone else. I agree, the risk goes both ways, my honest opinion is both should screen each other. In our new version of TOB, we hope to help the screening process by having what I call "Trust signals"

You, being an active participant in the community, having references and valid reviews and providers respond to those reviews will generate front level trust, these may reduce what a provider may require for screening compared to if you are a nobody. Just signed up on TOB and start messaging probably generates 0 trust from TOB and in my opinion "should" require more screening. The same works in reverse from the client's perspective. A new provider shows up on TOB, she's beautiful and you want to see her, but she has no history anywhere, can't find her at all, anywhere. I'm sure despite how much you want to see her, you'll probably try to screen her more, too. 

Either way, both parties are at risk of losing everything and just need to go with what you are comfortable with, regardless of if you're a provider or a client.

[Kegacy59]

7 hours ago, Raine-7379 said:

There is another post in regards to screening, I suggest you go read it.  

Another man telling us not the screen because he has to much to lose will fall on deaf ears. 

 

Theres no need to be hostile, I thought this was a conversation forum? You also never answered my genuine question, how do you actually verify the content you are getting isnt AI genersted at this point? Selfies, IDs, websites, job info, business cards can all be faked and made up, how do you verify this?

Also im not a man who told anyone not to verify because I have too much to loose, I have verified plenty of times with no issues, again this was a conversation to your statement that verifying it is to ensure everyone feels comfortable and safe, this is a one sided statement and is in fact not the truth at all.

1 person sending all their person data to 1 random stranger and getting nothing in return but a picture or voice is never comforting, we never know where we are walking into and whom may actually be there or what could happen once inside, we strictly take all the risk.

This is not meant to offend you or anyone else, just a conversation thats 2 sided and your ststement is strictly 1 sided.

If Verifying works for you thats cooland all good, im genuinely curuous how you handle fake information and why so hostile on a simple forum?

[Raine-7379]

2 hours ago, Kegacy59 said:

 

1 person sending all their person data to 1 random stranger and getting nothing in return but a picture or voice is never comforting, we never know where we are walking into and whom may actually be there or what could happen once inside, we strictly take all the risk.

 

You have verified providers to choose from.  We have shown  ID, that matches photos to faces for each site we use. We have worked for years on reviews that prove we are safe, reliable, and trusted!  You are a stranger!

If you honestly believe men are taking 100% of the risk as you stated there is no hope. 

From this site I know of of providers that were robbed at gun point, drugged and sodomized in their own homes, beaten.  But please tell yourself again and again we take zero risk.

Because my opinion is different I am hostile, no it is called a different opinion! 

[boink36]

After all of this I think we need a good rate thread. 

[coguy66]

I, personally, don't mind verifying with providers that have a history (i've seen posting for a long time, or they have long and varied review histories). But I will say the 'provider community' is kind of their own worst enemy on this topic. Over the last three years I have experiences with 7 or more TOB advertisers. Over the last year it has pretty-much just been one, but still, I have only had two reviews left of me--and one of those was deleted when I didn't want to be 'exclusive' to her. Even the one review I have is getting kind of dated.

I would guess reviews of customers on TOB would be one of the best referrals you could ask for, but if you're not giving them, don't expect them to be available for you! yes, I have contacted every one through TOB, and asked for reviews from several.

[sb1212]

1 hour ago, coguy66 said:

I, personally, don't mind verifying with providers that have a history (i've seen posting for a long time, or they have long and varied review histories). But I will say the 'provider community' is kind of their own worst enemy on this topic. Over the last three years I have experiences with 7 or more TOB advertisers. Over the last year it has pretty-much just been one, but still, I have only had two reviews left of me--and one of those was deleted when I didn't want to be 'exclusive' to her. Even the one review I have is getting kind of dated.

I would guess reviews of customers on TOB would be one of the best referrals you could ask for, but if you're not giving them, don't expect them to be available for you! yes, I have contacted every one through TOB, and asked for reviews from several.

When you say "reviews" relating to clients, I assume you mean "references"...

[Raine-7379]

16 hours ago, boink36 said:

After all of this I think we need a good rate thread. 

All make sure to tell the ladies on here that were robbed at gun point, sodomized, raped, drugged had GPS trackers on their cars, and beaten all most to death that screening them was just a silly joke.  

She should know that only men are at risk, and should never dare to ask him to screen. How dare her.  

Honestly, this is why women do not post in the forums.  We are belittled, berated, and men can say anything without consequence. 

 

[boink36]

1 hour ago, Raine-7379 said:

All make sure to tell the ladies on here that were robbed at gun point, sodomized, raped, drugged had GPS trackers on their cars, and beaten all most to death that screening them was just a silly joke.  

She should know that only men are at risk, and should never dare to ask him to screen. How dare her.  

Honestly, this is why women do not post in the forums.  We are belittled, berated, and men can say anything without consequence. 

 

I highly encourage providers to screen. I also highly encourage clients to only give the information they are comfortable giving.  Where is the problem with that?

[Raine-7379]

4 hours ago, boink36 said:

I highly encourage providers to screen. I also highly encourage clients to only give the information they are comfortable giving.  Where is the problem with that?

Hahaha... Mark wants to use an app number, and his fake name or username.  Tell me again how that keeps a provider safe? 

That is like seeing a provider with a new name and number each week.  You would never do it trust me.  Tob has spoiled men. 

[boink36]

42 minutes ago, Raine-7379 said:

Hahaha... Mark wants to use an app number, and his fake name or username.  Tell me again how that keeps a provider safe? 

That is like seeing a provider with a new name and number each week.  You would never do it trust me.  Tob has spoiled men. 

This is 100% keeping you safe. He is not giving the information you want so you don't see him. you are safe and so is he.

[Audrey Astor]

On 1/18/2026 at 10:44 AM, Kegacy59 said:

We live with AI at this point, how do you even verify the information being provided is even real and not AI? AI can fake anything and make anything.

Most people at this stage care alot about their privacy and cant control how their information is being stored and used once they send it to a stranger.

Making someone send a selfie with their ID, address, work information, business card is strictly one sided protection and only makes one side feel comfortable, if the aim is to have everyone feel protected and safe then IDs sharing should be 2 sided.

I don’t know…. Theres only one of me that you have to worry about. There’s many of you for me to worry about. I’ve been around off and on for quite awhile. 100 and some clients have attested that I’m safe. That’s just on TOB. I also have been verified with my ID and reputation on MANY other sites. The likelihood of me not being who I say and/or being dangerous to you is not very likely. After all, this is ALL ABOUT weighing consequences , pros and cons. Would me giving you a copy of my ID really make a difference? Flippant arrogant attitudes are not needed by me. I’m just here for safe mutual fun. Hopefully this helps newbies (wink,wink). 

[Raine-7379]

57 minutes ago, Audrey Astor said:

I don’t know…. Theres only one of me that you have to worry about. There’s many of you for me to worry about. I’ve been around off and on for quite awhile. 100 and some clients have attested that I’m safe. That’s just on TOB. I also have been verified with my ID and reputation on MANY other sites. The likelihood of me not being who I say and/or being dangerous to you is not very likely. After all, this is ALL ABOUT weighing consequences , pros and cons. Would me giving you a copy of my ID really make a difference? Flippant arrogant attitudes are not needed by me. I’m just here for safe mutual fun. Hopefully this helps newbies (wink,wink). 

100% right.  We see multiple clients a week, a gent might see one well reviewed verified provider.  We are not the same!  If the risk seeing us, and verifying is to great don't do it!! 

[SirSoy]

So gonna be honest I haven't read the entire thread so my apologies if anyone else has said this. I'm an occasional hobbyist... But I do keep an eye out. And I will say pre-pandemic I feel like there where way way less scammers and with the rise in fake provider profiles on other sites it's made providing details more dangerous. Now personally I do a deep dive on a provider before even reaching out, checking P411 and cross referencing other reputable sites and looking at reviews to help cause even those are faked on some sites. Unfortunately this has made some hobbyists think that not screening is the safer alternative and for some of them who are out there reaching out with zero research it probably is cause I can guarantee they're getting hit with scams left and right. To be clear I'm not saying this is a justification, it's not. Just answering the original question that was asked. 

[Raine-7379]

6 hours ago, SirSoy said:

So gonna be honest I haven't read the entire thread so my apologies if anyone else has said this. I'm an occasional hobbyist... But I do keep an eye out. And I will say pre-pandemic I feel like there where way way less scammers and with the rise in fake provider profiles on other sites it's made providing details more dangerous. Now personally I do a deep dive on a provider before even reaching out, checking P411 and cross referencing other reputable sites and looking at reviews to help cause even those are faked on some sites. Unfortunately this has made some hobbyists think that not screening is the safer alternative and for some of them who are out there reaching out with zero research it probably is cause I can guarantee they're getting hit with scams left and right. To be clear I'm not saying this is a justification, it's not. Just answering the original question that was asked. 

Of course the scammers are one step ahead of the sites verification team.  I had my profile stolen on another site, and who knows how many they took in the day it was not under my control.  Sadly, the scammers slip through the cracks on all sites no matter the due diligence. 

That is why you are a wise man, and does his in depth research.  A wise owl said; if she does not screen for her own safety, she will not consider your safety.

Stay safe!!

[boink36]

21 minutes ago, Raine-7379 said:

Of course the scammers are one step ahead of the sites verification team.  I had my profile stolen on another site, and who knows how many they took in the day it was not under my control.  Sadly, the scammers slip through the cracks on all sites no matter the due diligence. 

That is why you are a wise man, and does his in depth research.  A wise owl said; if she does not screen for her own safety, she will not consider your safety.

Stay safe!!

When clients contact you, how do they know its you and not scammers who have taken control of your profile?

[Raine-7379]

1 hour ago, boink36 said:

When clients contact you, how do they know its you and not scammers who have taken control of your profile?

Very easily, by spending a few minutes doing the research.  My phone number is listed on all my ads and my website.  Match the phone number and voila they can verify I am the legitimate owner of the ad. A quick Google of the phone number is a great start.  My number comes up with my ads.  A scammer will not!!

I 100% expect men to verify me to ensure they are safe.  You can post 1000 times men should never trust a verified provider with their information, but I will never allow the men to decide how I stay alive in a very dangerous industry.

It seems to me you use your position as a  moderator to make your opinion more important than it is.   I am not one to buy into the fake power trip.

 

[boink36]

2 hours ago, Raine-7379 said:

I had my profile stolen on another site, and who knows how many they took in the day it was not under my control. 

That is why you are a wise man, and does his in depth research.  A wise owl said; if she does not screen for her own safety, she will not consider your safety.

Stay safe!!

 

1 hour ago, boink36 said:

When clients contact you, how do they know its you and not scammers who have taken control of your profile?

 

8 minutes ago, Raine-7379 said:

Very easily, by spending a few minutes doing the research.  My phone number is listed on all my ads and my website.  Match the phone number and voila they can verify I am the legitimate owner of the ad. A quick Google of the phone number is a great start.  My number comes up with my ads.  A scammer will not!!

I 100% expect men to verify me to ensure they are safe.  You can post 1000 times men should never trust a verified provider with their information, but I will never allow the men to decide how I stay alive in a very dangerous industry.

It seems to me you use your position as a  moderator to make your opinion more important than it is.   I am not one to buy into the fake power trip.

 

All of this ^^^^^ is wonderful but you never answered my question. 

[Raine-7379]

25 minutes ago, boink36 said:

 

 

All of this ^^^^^ is wonderful but you never answered my question. 

Honestly, I don't know how much more simply I can spell it out. You have to do your own independent research to ensure that the provider is consistent over all platforms. In my view, this is not rocket science or a difficult concept. 

I'm going to talk very slowly here, if my phone number does not match my website, my verification site, and all my ads you might have come across a scammer.  My phone number is 7273, Google it.  I am verifiable! If you sign on to erotic monkey and my phone number does not match my name or any other ad or verification site it is probably a scam or has been stolen.  I hope this will help.  

 

[Raine-7379]

36 minutes ago, boink36 said:

 

 

All of this ^^^^^ is wonderful but you never answered my question. 

It might be best to ask some of our wonderful gentlemen on here how they insure the providers have been verified. 

I believe this has gotten off topic and the point has been lost.  

[boink36]

1 hour ago, Raine-7379 said:

Honestly, I don't know how much more simply I can spell it out. You have to do your own independent research to ensure that the provider is consistent over all platforms. In my view, this is not rocket science or a difficult concept. 

I'm going to talk very slowly here, if my phone number does not match my website, my verification site, and all my ads you might have come across a scammer.  My phone number is 7273, Google it.  I am verifiable! If you sign on to erotic monkey and my phone number does not match my name or any other ad or verification site it is probably a scam or has been stolen.  I hope this will help.  

 

If you didn't want to answer my question you should have said so. I'm going to continue to recommend that guys be careful with their personal information. not because it upsets you, but because I believe it's a good thing to do. 

Guys, please be careful with your personal information. you never know where it might end up. if a providers profile is compromised, all of your personal information stored there is now out on the town having a good time. 

[Raine-7379]

1 hour ago, boink36 said:

If you didn't want to answer my question you should have said so. I'm going to continue to recommend that guys be careful with their personal information. not because it upsets you, but because I believe it's a good thing to do. 

Guys, please be careful with your personal information. you never know where it might end up. if a providers profile is compromised, all of your personal information stored there is now out on the town having a good time. 

If you are dumb enough to hand out your personal information to a scammer I'm guessing that is on you. If you have not done your due diligence you are a complete idiot and deserve to be scammed ripped off. A fool and their money are easily parted in this industry.  

I have easily answered your question many times but obviously it falls on your deaf ears. Men need to make sure that they are seeing a legitimate, verified provider.  It is easily done in the very 🌑 simple steps that I told you to follow. It seems like most men can follow simple directions.

A scammer wants your money more than likely  they are not interested in your face or ID. 

Luckily, I have very bright and wonderful clients that are able to verify me and are happy to send me all of my screening information. 

I remember years ago you were not telling them to be careful, you were advising them as a moderator and staff of Tob to never give up personal information.  Make up a name with your fake phone.  

Obviously you are only looking out for clients and not the safety of any provider.  Your bias is more than blatant.  You cannot let it go because it fits your scenario, and will never be challenged because you are a mod on here.  

 

[boink36]

1 hour ago, Raine-7379 said:

If you are dumb enough to hand out your personal information to a scammer I'm guessing that is on you. If you have not done your due diligence you are a complete idiot and deserve to be scammed ripped off. A fool and their money are easily parted in this industry.  

I have easily answered your question many times but obviously it falls on your deaf ears. Men need to make sure that they are seeing a legitimate, verified provider.  It is easily done in the very 🌑 simple steps that I told you to follow. It seems like most men can follow simple directions.

A scammer wants your money more than likely  they are not interested in your face or ID. 

Luckily, I have very bright and wonderful clients that are able to verify me and are happy to send me all of my screening information. 

I remember years ago you were not telling them to be careful, you were advising them as a moderator and staff of Tob to never give up personal information.  Make up a name with your fake phone.  

Obviously you are only looking out for clients and not the safety of any provider.  Your bias is more than blatant.  You cannot let it go because it fits your scenario, and will never be challenged because you are a mod on here.  

 

You are right enough about that. I was recommending this years before I was a Mod. I'm not sure what being a mod has to do with it. I was recommending guys not give up their personal information even before I started on TOB. I have also made posts telling providers to never give out their personal information.

Ladies, be careful with your personal information. if a clients profile is compromised all of you personal information could be out and about.  

[Raine-7379]

6 minutes ago, boink36 said:

You are right enough about that. I was recommending this years before I was a Mod. I'm not sure what being a mod has to do with it. I was recommending guys not give up their personal information even before I started on TOB. I have also made posts telling providers to never give out their personal information.

Ladies, be careful with your personal information. if a clients profile is compromised all of you personal information could be out and about.  

You are terrified about personal information being out there. I am terrified that we are going to be beaten, killed sodomized, robbed, left for dead. I think you might want to rethink your priorities.  Every time I open that door I am absolutely not worried about my real world name getting out there.  Whatever that would mean.  

As a moderator your opinion is perceived to carry more authority, and you do represent TOB. So when you tell clients over and over to never share real names and screen that puts us at risk. 

I know you think this is a fun hobby, but this is how we feed our families, drive a car, pay rent.  Think If every client took your advice, and only used fake information?  As I have said, you do not see anyone without being a verified safe provider.  All we ask is for the same courtesy. We want to be valued, and with this attitude you show us none!

I know some ladies have let their screening down because they really needed the money to live.  If screening was a standard, we would not have to worry about who we are seeing. 

[Caressa Duval]

7 hours ago, Raine-7379 said:

You are terrified about personal information being out there. I am terrified that we are going to be beaten, killed sodomized, robbed, left for dead. I think you might want to rethink your priorities.  Every time I open that door I am absolutely not worried about my real world name getting out there.  Whatever that would mean.  

As a moderator your opinion is perceived to carry more authority, and you do represent TOB. So when you tell clients over and over to never share real names and screen that puts us at risk. 

I know you think this is a fun hobby, but this is how we feed our families, drive a car, pay rent.  Think If every client took your advice, and only used fake information?  As I have said, you do not see anyone without being a verified safe provider.  All we ask is for the same courtesy. We want to be valued, and with this attitude you show us none!

I know some ladies have let their screening down because they really needed the money to live.  If screening was a standard, we would not have to worry about who we are seeing. 

I agree. There was a POS that got several good references, that went on to assault several ladies after getting these good references. This was not that long ago! We are fortunate in Colorado to have the safe reporting law for sex workers. It pinned to this forum. 

You can not report a handle name! Since most review sites do zero verification for men, the proper authorities can't even trace the handle back to a real name. The guy gets away with it to do it again. Like I said, this happened not too long ago to providers in Colorado. 

We can safely report assault, and stalking now. While not getting in trouble for being a sex worker. We do need a real name to report though! 

[boink36]

8 hours ago, Raine-7379 said:

You are terrified about personal information being out there. I am terrified that we are going to be beaten, killed sodomized, robbed, left for dead. I think you might want to rethink your priorities.  Every time I open that door I am absolutely not worried about my real world name getting out there.  Whatever that would mean.  

As a moderator your opinion is perceived to carry more authority, and you do represent TOB. So when you tell clients over and over to never share real names and screen that puts us at risk. 

I know you think this is a fun hobby, but this is how we feed our families, drive a car, pay rent.  Think If every client took your advice, and only used fake information?  As I have said, you do not see anyone without being a verified safe provider.  All we ask is for the same courtesy. We want to be valued, and with this attitude you show us none!

I know some ladies have let their screening down because they really needed the money to live.  If screening was a standard, we would not have to worry about who we are seeing. 

I see what's going on here. not sure how I could have been so blind. you can't have one single person on this site who is looking out for the well being of the clients. When it comes to who I'm going to look out for I'm pro choice, and no amount of incessant nagging is going to change that.

Guys, be careful who gets your personal information. you can always give it, but you can never ever get it back. 

[oldertruckguy-9225]

I will not play with a young lady who does not screen.  Should I choose to play outside my circle of favorites I always tell the young lady, early in the communication, that I will readily comply with any screening requirements.

If she immediately starts her screening process I am fine with proceeding. If she does not start screening, dismisses it or gives an indication that it is not important, I thank her for her time and I cease communication.

 To me, screening indicates that she is professional in her approach. It says that she is serious about her safety and her job. Experience has proven to me that her professional approach offers a much higher probability of a fun, worry free playtime for both of us.