Posted May 19 2 hours ago, johnnybgood said: I hear what Stevie is saying it's just not going to happen up front in my opinion, I've had multiple ladies offer me discounts after they've raised their rates over time but keep our rate the same (grandfathered in) and it was immensely appreciated and it kept me coming back over and over. Also had ladies offer me extras after session to not kick me out the door (dinner, baths or cuddle time) again very appreciated. I've learned those situations are few and far between and need to be allowed to happen instead of expecting it to happen just as the YMMV circumstances in a session. It's all about chemistry and what the ladies are comfortable with. To all the ladies I've met over the years THANK YOU for every minute you've shared with me, it's made me a better man! I agree its not going to happen up front and chemistry plays a huge part. But when it does happen, it just FEELS FUCKING AWESOME and to me thats when your CLIENT/PROVIDER RELATIONSHIP touches on another level. I also agree to not expect it but let it happen................. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 19 14 hours ago, Mr.Pink said: You need a girlfriend Any ladies wanna volunteer 🤣😁 -2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 20 On 5/15/2024 at 2:50 PM, stevie-2249 said: How does someone put a dollar amount on pussy? The business owner (the provider) gages the amount of business they get at one price point and makes adjustments based on productivity. I have real estate clients who have worked with me so much I gicpve tgem a great deal on my services now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 20 On 5/15/2024 at 10:53 PM, Savoir Faire said: M&M I am so pulling for that guy for real. LOL I cannot compete with 78 REPEATS................It would seem like some lucky PROVIDER would be all over him....................... Now thats a part time job or at least a car note. Just saying ............. Indeed! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 20 On 5/15/2024 at 10:53 PM, Savoir Faire said: M&M I am so pulling for that guy for real. LOL I cannot compete with 78 REPEATS................It would seem like some lucky PROVIDER would be all over him....................... Now thats a part time job or at least a car note. Just saying ............. No thanks. We’re leaving him for Miss 78 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 9 Noting more interesting than paying for first class international, only to get bumped to a domestic route on Spirit. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 11 On 5/15/2024 at 8:29 PM, parkercole said: Agreed! Fukc not another rate thread....... We might as well discuss what does GFE means next!? Oh that’s next for sure! Y’all would not believe what I’m hearing about that. 😳🥸👀 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 11 It is never a good idea to try and bargain with us ladies, and promised-made often fall short. This business is an independently owned and run solely by an individual. If you choose to haggle? Be ready for retaliation. Personally, I have had a few guys grandfathered in but they’re deserving of their place on my totem pole. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 28 I hate this, honestly. From my perspective, the provider is providing a service, and just like any other service provider, she is able to set her rates as she sees fit. A little bit of education for you lovely gentlemen: A provider typically sets her rates based on the following very basic factors... 1. The current economic market. 2. Desired volume. 3. Required income. I even have a little equation for you. P=DV/RI×E Where... P is price per service that is being calculated. DV represents the desired volume. RI represents the required income of the provider. E is an economic adjustment factor (a multiplier that adjusts the price based on the current economic state, where a positive economy is a positive integer, and a negative number is a negative integer. In addition to the basic factors, we have to understand that a person who is providing a very personal and individualized service is not properly represented by an equation. Additional factors to consider may be... 1. The level of the provider's experience. 2. The "goods and services" she must pay for that can be otherwise considered "business expenses" (hair, nails, outfits, travel, etc.). 3. Investment on previous education. Some providers have formal certifications in massage, BDSM, somatic sexology, and the like. Apart from hobby-specific education, some providers have masters degrees that make them more appealing to high-end clients. 4. The provider's own unique perspective on themselves and their value on a psychological level. 5. The provider's own experiences and preferences for clients who can afford one rate vs. clients who can't. Bottom line - providers set their rates according to logical, service-based premises, combined with their own adjustments as a real human being with specific traits and experiences. I won't bore you with anymore educational materials, but please - do refer to this formula if anyones' rates are confusing to you, and if you can't afford it, move on. (Footnote: I have had a couple of people from this board who consistently reach out to me time and time again to "offer" their own price for my services. It makes you look incompetent, disrespectful, and broke...respectfully.) 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 29 On 6/27/2024 at 11:56 PM, Carleeblissful said: I hate this, honestly. From my perspective, the provider is providing a service, and just like any other service provider, she is able to set her rates as she sees fit. A little bit of education for you lovely gentlemen: A provider typically sets her rates based on the following very basic factors... 1. The current economic market. 2. Desired volume. 3. Required income. I even have a little equation for you. P=DV/RI×E Where... P is price per service that is being calculated. DV represents the desired volume. RI represents the required income of the provider. E is an economic adjustment factor (a multiplier that adjusts the price based on the current economic state, where a positive economy is a positive integer, and a negative number is a negative integer. In addition to the basic factors, we have to understand that a person who is providing a very personal and individualized service is not properly represented by an equation. Additional factors to consider may be... 1. The level of the provider's experience. 2. The "goods and services" she must pay for that can be otherwise considered "business expenses" (hair, nails, outfits, travel, etc.). 3. Investment on previous education. Some providers have formal certifications in massage, BDSM, somatic sexology, and the like. Apart from hobby-specific education, some providers have masters degrees that make them more appealing to high-end clients. 4. The provider's own unique perspective on themselves and their value on a psychological level. 5. The provider's own experiences and preferences for clients who can afford one rate vs. clients who can't. Bottom line - providers set their rates according to logical, service-based premises, combined with their own adjustments as a real human being with specific traits and experiences. I won't bore you with anymore educational materials, but please - do refer to this formula if anyones' rates are confusing to you, and if you can't afford it, move on. (Footnote: I have had a couple of people from this board who consistently reach out to me time and time again to "offer" their own price for my services. It makes you look incompetent, disrespectful, and broke...respectfully.) Nicely done! (there is a certification in Sexology??). At the end of the day, guys, it is real simple: pay the required donation or move on. Many good choices on TOB with a wide range of price points. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 29 I have some incredible regulars and NO I am not budging on my rates. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 1 On 5/15/2024 at 2:50 PM, stevie-2249 said: How does someone put a dollar amount on pussy? By adjusting prices based on how many customers approach them, just like any business. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 1 7 hours ago, Bravo1 said: By adjusting prices based on how many customers approach them, just like any business. +1 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 1 On 6/27/2024 at 9:56 PM, Carleeblissful said: … the provider is providing a service, and just like any other service provider, she is able to set her rates as she sees fit. ^^Most definitely! ^^ …. 4. The provider's own unique perspective on themselves and their value on a psychological level. … #4 is where where I’ve seen some providers have a problem. They conflate their rates with their worth as a person, not recognizing that economics define the worth of their services. As individuals they are priceless, just like everybody else. It is the services they provide which are judged by the marketplace. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bit Banger said: #4 is where where I’ve seen some providers have a problem. They conflate their rates with their worth as a person, not recognizing that economics define the worth of their services. As individuals they are priceless, just like everybody else. It is the services they provide which are judged by the marketplace. I think this is where most hobbyists don’t quite understand the trade from the provider’s perspective. At a most basic level, the value of a McLaren is much higher than that of a BMW. That being said, the value of a Ferrari is arguably higher than both, perhaps even due to branding alone. Ferrari doesn’t care about the economy, and they don’t care whether customers who don’t suit their standards choose their brand. Ferrari cares about the quality of their clientele, and they provide both quality products and quality customer service accordingly. Ferrari goes so far as to send cease and desist letters to Ferrari owners who modify their vehicles in a way that is not consistent with their desired branding. It’s the same concept applied by Hermes, where only loyal customers of a certain caliber can purchase Birkin bags. Like it or not, providers provide you with a luxury service. Even in luxury goods, there are tiers of both service and quality. Purchase prices reflect that. Edited July 1 by Carleeblissful 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 1 (edited) This is how I see it for me and only me.. Seen me 1 or 100 time the rate is still the same every time and every one new or old friend pays the same . My hairdresser chages me the same every 5 weeks and when her rate goes up I pay or (move along and that's not to happen). Why do I want to do the same amount of work for less money? That's going to make me feel like that my PU**y is worth less then the first time around , and the last thing a guys want's is a Pu**y that's not happy !!! Edited July 1 by lustybustygina 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted July 13 On 5/19/2024 at 4:56 AM, stevie-2249 said: Any ladies wanna volunteer 🤣😁 Nope, I’m getting a girlfriend next time.😀 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
