Posted August 20, 2020 About 3 weeks ago I met a ASP at a downtown hotel. Afterwards she told me that she doesn't do this very often like she wanted me to see her in a different light. Felt comfortable with me and found me non threatening. Said she would meet for dinners at no cost for her time. Or breakfast. Before that it was a BBBJ and then boom uncovered entry when advertised as CFS. Had me worried and examining my dick for days afterwards. Super nice young woman really. Felt sorry for her actually. She was a super nice girl with a bad alcohol problem. So many have drug and alcohol problems so they definitely have deep seated issues which saddens me actually. She even said lets both get tested so we don't have to worry about future encounters. In reality I can't handle doing this anymore. I feel like an abuser no matter what they say or do. Most hate men and are willing to suffer abuse for quick fast cash. At the end of the day fast food sex isnt fulfilling without a real emotional connection. I just can't handle this shit anymore. Though they will deny it you can't tell me that most wouldn't trade that lifestyle for real genuine love and caring. I'm willing to bet most were abused. Became jaded and sex became a commodity with no obvious value to their womanhood which long past was destroyed. Lust is never satisfied and you get tied up addicted to this shit its more expensive than a drug habit. To each his own but this all leads to a dead end back right where you started. I'm better off in a real relationship and not cheapening my own self. But I will say Ive used surrogates in the past which helped me get over insecurity issues. I think its just wanting a warm body after divorce. Anyways I'm done with this shit. Her crying after the session after I told her how much it meant to me for her to give away such a personal part of her life did it. I pray that young lady finds herself. It did an emotional number on me. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 Yeah, it takes tough skin - provider and client alike. And who really wants to be tough and insensitive? It's not my preferred choice for human contact, but that's what with this; a business transaction where each party uses the other. For me, the impulse to find intimacy is so damn powerful, and yes, it hurts to realize that the women I have pursued here have no interest in me unless I have the bank to back up my presence in their lives. yeah... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 6 hours ago, arkoshark3377 said: About 3 weeks ago I met a ASP at a downtown hotel. Afterwards she told me that she doesn't do this very often like she wanted me to see her in a different light. Felt comfortable with me and found me non threatening. Said she would meet for dinners at no cost for her time. Or breakfast. Before that it was a BBBJ and then boom uncovered entry when advertised as CFS. Had me worried and examining my dick for days afterwards. Super nice young woman really. Felt sorry for her actually. She was a super nice girl with a bad alcohol problem. So many have drug and alcohol problems so they definitely have deep seated issues which saddens me actually. She even said lets both get tested so we don't have to worry about future encounters. In reality I can't handle doing this anymore. I feel like an abuser no matter what they say or do. Most hate men and are willing to suffer abuse for quick fast cash. At the end of the day fast food sex isnt fulfilling without a real emotional connection. I just can't handle this shit anymore. Though they will deny it you can't tell me that most wouldn't trade that lifestyle for real genuine love and caring. I'm willing to bet most were abused. Became jaded and sex became a commodity with no obvious value to their womanhood which long past was destroyed. Lust is never satisfied and you get tied up addicted to this shit its more expensive than a drug habit. To each his own but this all leads to a dead end back right where you started. I'm better off in a real relationship and not cheapening my own self. But I will say Ive used surrogates in the past which helped me get over insecurity issues. I think its just wanting a warm body after divorce. Anyways I'm done with this shit. Her crying after the session after I told her how much it meant to me for her to give away such a personal part of her life did it. I pray that young lady finds herself. It did an emotional number on me. After reading this you are right @arkoshark3377 you need to be done with this shit! The fact that you still banged her uncovered is sad. Keep checking your junk and get your blood drawn. No wonder it did a emotional number on you. 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 I'm not sure what to think about your post. I read where you are generalizing that most of the ladies here are drug users, hate men, etc., etc. And then you say you can't handle this anymore and you do this shit anymore. I disagree with you about most of the ladies are drug users, etc, etc. As far as you saying you can't handle this shit anymore and you are done with this shit, I recommend that you take your own statements to heart and stop hobbying for a while until you can handle this "shit", if not quit forever. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 Hobbying is like practicing sorcery. You don’t want to be unhinged and do this at the same time. While there have been a few times where the ladies I’ve seen are definitely drinkers or pot smokers or worse, these times are few and far between. At least the ladies I’ve seen. Don’t get me wrong. I’ve seen my share of fucked up shit over the years, luckily it wasn’t the norm. I understand your feelings of personal revulsion. Thank you for being so candid. I suffer from deep depression and have for years. There are times I can’t even get out of bed. On the flip side, meeting the right woman (yes, a provider) really seemed to pull me out of my haze for awhile. When I got sunk back down into my own shit, I’d see another lady. They didn’t always work out that way. Definitely had some bad sessions. But like I said before, few and far between. Hang in there. Try not to let the haters bring you down. Nobody has the real answers in life. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 I have 2 words for you...healthy boundaries. They are game changers not just in this industry but in life. The providers and clients who have them have many more wonderful experiences and view this industry much differently than your doom and gloom outlook. I just want to have a fun time in my visits. THANKFULLY there are many wonderful gentlemen who have healthy boundaries and want to have a fun time as well. Not every client and provider fall into the sad stereotypes like you and your provider friend. 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 21 minutes ago, Vassago said: Hobbying is like practicing sorcery. You don’t want to be unhinged and do this at the same time. While there have been a few times where the ladies I’ve seen are definitely drinkers or pot smokers or worse, these times are few and far between. At least the ladies I’ve seen. Don’t get me wrong. I’ve seen my share of fucked up shit over the years, luckily it wasn’t the norm. I understand your feelings of personal revulsion. Thank you for being so candid. I suffer from deep depression and have for years. There are times I can’t even get out of bed. On the flip side, meeting the right woman (yes, a provider) really seemed to pull me out of my haze for awhile. When I got sunk back down into my own shit, I’d see another lady. They didn’t always work out that way. Definitely had some bad sessions. But like I said before, few and far between. Hang in there. Try not to let the haters bring you down. Nobody has the real answers in life. Ladies, try not to let this OPs dumping of hate bring YOU down. Never own anyone else's opinion of you. Not a clients opinion, not a fellow provider's opinion, not family or friends opnions. Stay true to yourselves, and if you're a provider who actually loves being a SW and gets highly irritated when people project their shortcomings onto you, it's okay to tell them to fuck off and look in the mirror and deal with that mess. I'll agree the OP appears to have depression, but that doesn't mean he gets a pass to take a big fat dump on SWrs. 18 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Hunter VanDyke said: Ladies, try not to let this OPs dumping of hate bring YOU down. Never own anyone else's opinion of you. Not a clients opinion, not a fellow provider's opinion, not family or friends opnions. Stay true to yourselves, ... This deserves repeating 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 There's issues all around. What underlying issues make clients do things like cheat or use sex workers? Lots of glass houses, I tend to try to not shatter anyone else's lest mine be shattered. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 10 hours ago, arkoshark3377 said: "Had me worried and examining my dick for days afterwards." *****days? wait 17 and get an advance RNA test if you like - or wait 3 months while completely abstaining from any kind of dating and get tested - please - do both the HW and RW a favor on this one***** "Lust is never satisfied and you get tied up addicted to this shit its more expensive than a drug habit." *****For many the lust is only part of it and it is satisfied - if not for you, then kudos for recognizing this and managing accordingly on your side of the street***** "To each his own" *****thank goodness for this eh, in the HW and the RW***** "I'm better off in a real relationship" *****super kudos for you to realize this - there are those that wander through casual dating worlds like this one but never seem to find what they are looking for - stoked to hear you did - so there is value in the HW experiences both good and bad in the eys of the beholder if it helps some get not just what they think they want but what they actually need***** "But I will say Ive used surrogates in the past which helped me get over insecurity issues. I think its just wanting a warm body after divorce." *****you are not alone here - a collective deep dive into the world of insecurities may reveal this is part of the HW - but if it helps makes some know what you know then it may do a good thing***** "Anyways I'm done with this shit." *****Good for you man! Congrats on the realization - always a good thing in life when you can put things that hold you back in the rear view and focus on what you want for your future - sounds like you are recognizing what you need and are carving a path in that direction. Congrats on the epiphanies - if you look at them right they are a true reward. Congrats on turning the page that obviously didn't suit you. Just my humble opinions - thanks for the post - and bon chance out there! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Hunter VanDyke said: Ladies, try not to let this OPs dumping of hate bring YOU down. Never own anyone else's opinion of you. Not a clients opinion, not a fellow provider's opinion, not family or friends opnions. Stay true to yourselves, and if you're a provider who actually loves being a SW and gets highly irritated when people project their shortcomings onto you, it's okay to tell them to fuck off and look in the mirror and deal with that mess. I'll agree the OP appears to have depression, but that doesn't mean he gets a pass to take a big fat dump on SWrs. Because you have all the answers and no one else does, right? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 12 hours ago, arkoshark3377 said: About 3 weeks ago I met a ASP at a downtown hotel.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 Other than BadBoy and Kandi Apple, seems like you are getting cut a hell of a lot more slack than you deserve....probably because you read "so emotional". Your post is fucked up on MANY levels. It is whiney, bitchy, hypocritical, selfish , ignorant presumptuous, and unkind. The whiney and bitchy is obvious. How hypocritical of you to call her out for offering BBFS, which you ignorantly ACCEPTED, then went all whiney about worrying after the fact. Then you happily agree to a meal ( time uncompensated of course) ENABLING someone you already knew had a drinking problem. So you get high and mighty and can't handle "this shit" anymore, and come here and post this. Did it ever occur to you that SHE MIGHT SEE IT? Did it cross your mind what effect it might have on her if she has problems? Then you decide to expand your presumptive judgement, and project it onto most of the ladies around here. BaBoy is right, you should shut up and man up, and Kandi Apple is right, that you should quit. If EVER there was a need for a giant, bitch slap GIF...YOU ARE IT. Now THIS is what your post deserves. 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 Loose Lips............... Sink ships! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Vassago said: Because you have all the answers and no one else does, right? I know enough to not come on here and put down the majority of clients and paint them with some dumb broad stereotypical brush. I know enough to not tell the hater, to not let the haters get him down. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 20, 2020 50 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said: I know enough to not come on here and put down the majority of clients and paint them with some dumb broad stereotypical brush. I know enough to not tell the hater, to not let the haters get him down. You actually don’t really know anything. No wonder forum activity gets smaller by the year. Guess it’s a good thing I don’t do this for a living. Moving on. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, Vassago said: You actually don’t really know anything. No wonder forum activity gets smaller by the year. Guess it’s a good thing I don’t do this for a living. Moving on. Common Sense goes a long way...something you geniuses could desperately use. Bless your heart. 🥰 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 21, 2020 OP, that's the risk we run. Just when we think we are heading out for a thrilling and well deserved knee trembler and a touch of comfort, life smacks us in the kisser... It's a normal reaction to rush into the arms of a welcoming stranger in times of war and uncertainty, or so the movies tell us. Instead, you ran smack into a real human being and rediscovered the hole in your soul, were reminded of the universality of real human suffering and our universal desire for a moment of peace and stability. Heavy shit. I don't know what I'd do in your shoes. I remember a time when condoms were a rarity among old and new bedfellows, and you both benefited from the romantic joining. I don't believe you deserve any derision for expressing your feelings here, but I've learned that some friends are often quick to cry foul and take offense at what they believe to be a judgemental attack on their own private, personal experience, and they're right, if you were judging them. But I believe that you yourself are only working through this recent experience in public on a forum where you thought others might understand and perhaps might offer insight and/or benefit from your process. That makes sense and is honorable. I also realize that for some, you discuss their chosen profession which they consider to be honorable and not dysfunctional for them. Coincidentally, I agree with them. OP, you are on to something of value here for you, and perhaps your new friend that deserves further time and exploration if you are to grow as a human being. The warnings given here are valid so take heed and walk with trepidation. In spite of the negativity of the give and take of emotional territorialism displayed here, I feel the support shared by members to be generous and we'll meant. Also I appreciate your point of view , as well as that which has been shared by most others who contributed. I am again astounded and humbled to return here to learn from and share with the other unique 'misfits' who gather here as we have done so for so many years. Stay healthy in mind and body, dear people. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 21, 2020 Step 1: Get tested. Step 2: Stop stereotyping. Not all providers hate men and are fucked up mentally. Step 3: Don't make P4P sex personal. Don't have sex with anyone who does. Emotions are for dating, not P4P. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 21, 2020 People get into the hobby for all kinds of reasons. Yours was to fill a void left by your divorice. Nothing wrong with that. Mine was after a bad break-up. We are lucky that the hobby gives us this outlet. For some, these girls are worth their weight in gold. They are more therapists, than we wish to admit. Now you have come to realize, that you want the same kind of relationship back, that you lost in your divorice. If you can find it, good for you. There are other fish in the sea. It will take time and probably as many funds as you would spend here. I am not sure exactly what this girls story was. It really takes more than an hour to really know someone. I have been in your shoes , with a girl I met under similar circumstances. Even after 6 months , I never learned the whole story from her. So see what you can find out there. You will always be welcomed back. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 21, 2020 12 hours ago, fork said: Step 1: Get tested. Step 2: Stop stereotyping. Not all providers hate men and are fucked up mentally. Step 3: Don't make P4P sex personal. Don't have sex with anyone who does. Emotions are for dating, not P4P. Definitely get tested for STDs, now and in 3-6 months. Your health is the most important immediate concern from my standpoint (and see your doc, they might want you to take a cocktail of antibiotics as well). Otherwise.... Don't beat yourself up TOO much. Introspection is good, but self-flagellation isn't. Learn from it. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 22, 2020 On 8/20/2020 at 6:21 PM, Hunter VanDyke said: Common Sense goes a long way...something you geniuses could desperately use. Bless your heart. 🥰 As a Texas boy I can appreciate the blessing. Right on Hunter! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 31, 2020 I’m with Hunter and Bad Boy on this one...the rest of it is a dumpster fire of self loathing and apathy. With a touch of hypocrisy thrown in for taste. where’s the popcorn? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 1, 2020 The topic is why do you think the ASP told me these things... I can guarantee it wasnt so you would air any of her business on here. Trust is huge you basically took advantage of somebody who trusted you and made extremely shitty comments and assumptions and I'm still confused as to why... But how dare you talk about such personal shit on here I don't get why you would do it. As for the bbfs you probably made her believe that you cared only to get your dick wet and to come on here and gloat about it. I think you will have no choice but to leave after this one as I don't know if any ladies will see you anyway. I haven't posted in here in months but I just could not keep my mouth shut on this one. Hope you feel good about yourself. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 2, 2020 The OP is trolling and the rest is bullshit. Btw, who gives a shit why you fuck a ho. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 6, 2020 On 8/20/2020 at 7:43 AM, ilovewomen said: I'm not sure what to think about your post. I read where you are generalizing that most of the ladies here are drug users, hate men, etc., etc. And then you say you can't handle this anymore and you do this shit anymore. I disagree with you about most of the ladies are drug users, etc, etc. As far as you saying you can't handle this shit anymore and you are done with this shit, I recommend that you take your own statements to heart and stop hobbying for a while until you can handle this "shit", if not quit forever. +1 THANK YOU!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 6, 2020 Sorry OP, but you done fucked up. You ignored the red flags, got too emotionally invested, and then encouraged the behavior. I get it, you're lonely, but you need a councilor, not an escort, to help with your post-divorce emotional baggage. The fact that you didn't toss her ass off of you the moment she tried going BBFS is a huge indication of where your head is at. See a professional, get tested, and don't have sex with anyone for at least a month to make sure you didn't catch anything. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 8, 2020 Personally I find relationships boring and a waist of time you put so much effort for it to fall apart it's much easier having friends and most girls I've met including myself dont do drugs! I wasnt harmed as a child besides the normal parents fighting so what your saying about us comes strictly from stereotypes and TV comedy! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 8, 2020 In a field of where everyone wishes to paint us as being weak. you would be very surprised to hear how many ladies are truly very smart and self sufficient , College educated. This year alone has given me so much to think about and reflect on. Sorry about your lady friend. Wishing you the best. . Hope you both are healthy and well! 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 10, 2020 I'm a normal lady don't do drugs don't hate men and life as child was just the norm , I just got tired of the RW job and went on to the net for big boob molding and then got tired of that and here i'm 15years later and still love this life .. OP to say we all have some type of issues just not fair at all .. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
