Providers that really listen to you.

[arkoshark3377]

Its amazing how long it took me to find a provider that really listened to me in what I want to accomplish. Is she the hottest? No. The cheapest? No. But her character and personality make it well worth the 60 mile drive to go there. Being a listening down to earth human being goes a lot farther in my book than looks or being arrogant. To me personality tops all other qualities. I am not the most confident secure man and finding someone that will work with me and be human about it is really refreshing. Half the time I need to talk and gain a repoire with someone before I can be with them physically. I'm just programmed not to be a pig/slob. Plus seeing them as a human being and not just a sperm receptacle. At the end of the day being human to each other makes it that much more meaningful. Fck I must of gone through a hundred texting to find one who takes time to listen and is rewarded for doing so. We extensively texted for almost an evening learning about each other. I told her I wasnt wasting her time and she was awarded handsomely for getting to know each other.  

[johnnybgood]

Hey Ark, hello welcome to tob!

I relate to your situation I also like some communication before meeting with a lady but have learned that there is a fine line.  We tend to think they will respond back to all out texts/emails but we need to remember how many the ladies may receive on a daily basis.

Had a conversation with one gal who said she'd received over 50 inquiries in one 8 hr span one weekend, can you imagine texting/emailing 50 different guys?  She followed up by saying my appointment and one other for the next day was all that came from all those conversations!  THAT'S A LOT OF WORK!

So now I tend to correspond less with a lady beforehand, ask my main questions and pull the trigger and not waste to much of their time.

Just my 2cents...

[Raine-7379]

IMO do you call a doctor, dentist, attorney, hair stylist, and expect to chat with them for hours and hours; No, you do not. If you need an interview before setting an appointment you should look for a GF not a SWer. We all have lives outside of this, and our time is very finite.

[lustybustygina]

I like talking on the phone to get to know each other , But But I'm not spending hr's doing it !

Think we can get to know someone one a Bit in a few mins .. But im not for going texting & texting & texting I don't screen by texting it's just to much . I need my hands for other things LOL 

we get way to meany texts as it is that's BS or TW'ers ..   What to get to know me call me  . Or I'll call you 

Texting can be miss leading .. 

[Seeker5280]

Providers make things very simple.

They streamline things with the least amount of contact before visits.
 

They want to be comfortable.

I understand this.
 

It works!

[easytimes81006]

In my experience only about one in ten will respond to any call or text. Even those who reply seem to have no real commitment to following through with an agreed appointment time. Hooking up with a new provider for the first time is a real hit or miss thing these days. I have driven an hour or more to make an appointment, then been ghosted or ignored. It can be frustrating.

Maybe I became spoiled. I saw the same young lady a couple of times per month for 7 years, always a great time, then she decided to get married and moved away. I still receive emails every now and then, and I wish her all the best in life. That was 11 years ago and I'm still hoping to make another really good connection.

Maybe a few ladies will read this and recognize the potential opportunities for a provider who tries to build a solid business relationship.

[pfunk]

10 hours ago, easytimes81006 said:

In my experience only about one in ten will respond to any call or text.

I find this surprising. In my experience, 19 out of 20 respond. It may take up to 24 hours, and I only contact girls with excellent reputations. I use their preferred method of communication (text, email, phone, P411,) if they mention one. I read their website, P411, reviews, and ads. I use my TOB references, too.

I don't have a wife/girlfriend, and work for myself, so I have no concerns with giving out info, if it's requested.

[Amber Allure]

On 6/9/2020 at 8:47 AM, easytimes81006 said:

In my experience only about one in ten will respond to any call or text. Even those who reply seem to have no real commitment to following through with an agreed appointment time. Hooking up with a new provider for the first time is a real hit or miss thing these days. I have driven an hour or more to make an appointment, then been ghosted or ignored. It can be frustrating.

Maybe I became spoiled. I saw the same young lady a couple of times per month for 7 years, always a great time, then she decided to get married and moved away. I still receive emails every now and then, and I wish her all the best in life. That was 11 years ago and I'm still hoping to make another really good connection.

Maybe a few ladies will read this and recognize the potential opportunities for a provider who tries to build a solid business relationship.

I always get SUPER worried about responding to a text later than an hour after I received it, because of discretion. Unless of course, I have permission to text you whenever with no worries. I do not always have my work phone on me, so I always try and respond quickly. I run into having a featured listing a problem sometimes with the assumption that it means I am available "right now," when it's just my profile. 

So glad that the OP was able to find that connection. It makes things THAT much better each time you meet.

[zman999]

On 6/9/2020 at 7:02 PM, pfunk said:

I find this surprising. In my experience, 19 out of 20 respond. It may take up to 24 hours, and I only contact girls with excellent reputations. I use their preferred method of communication (text, email, phone, P411,) if they mention one. I read their website, P411, reviews, and ads. I use my TOB references, too.

I don't have a wife/girlfriend, and work for myself, so I have no concerns with giving out info, if it's requested.

You must teach us your ways grand Master 😁😂. I also find it hit or miss to even get a reply back (granted I'm newer with less reviews).  And just last night I had an appt with a gal, excellent reputation on here and texted to confirm our appt and nada...never heard back still but she's over there posting adds right now 🙄.  Why make an appointment if you don't intend to keep it? 

[pfunk]

3 hours ago, zman999 said:

 And just last night I had an appt with a gal, excellent reputation on here and texted to confirm our appt and nada...never heard back still but she's over there posting adds right now 🙄.  Why make an appointment if you don't intend to keep it? 

I'm sorry to hear that! Sometimes you just don't know if you offended someone, their phone died, they got in a car wreck, or some other weird issue.

Hopefully, it's a rare occurrence! 

[zman999]

1 hour ago, pfunk said:

I'm sorry to hear that! Sometimes you just don't know if you offended someone, their phone died, they got in a car wreck, or some other weird issue.

Hopefully, it's a rare occurrence! 

Nothing to be sorry for, it is what it is lol. If it was a weird issue she would've said something to me via pm or text I'd think, it was being blown off I bet. Who knows why but all for the best.  I've grown thick skin being new to the hobby and it hasn't swayed me from being super polite to the ladies here as the lucky ones who have met me can vouch.  😁. 

Back on topic, I think it takes some time to find that connection with someone. First meetings tend to be awkward for me so it's not until second on until I can usually be comfortable enough to start a rapport.  

 

[JRWolfe]

On 6/8/2020 at 10:00 AM, Raine-7379 said:

IMO do you call a doctor, dentist, attorney, hair stylist, and expect to chat with them for hours and hours; No, you do not. If you need an interview before setting an appointment you should look for a GF not a SWer. We all have lives outside of this, and our time is very finite.

   Screening works both ways. That said,although we tend to communicate more with an escort than a hair stylist, its to make each other more comfortable than an appointment with a lawyer.  I totally agree that chatting endlessly for hours is inappropriate. You do have lives as do we.  (Earlier this year,I was guilty of emailing too much,but it was to inform about having to postpone appointments when mom suddenly went into hospice and passed )

[Audrey Astor]

I’m glad you’ve found someone where you have a great connection.

This thread makes me wonder where and who some guys are visiting.🙁😩🤔

[lustybustygina]

On 7/1/2020 at 0:48 PM, Audrey Astor said:

I’m glad you’ve found someone where you have a great connection.

This thread makes me wonder where and who some guys are visiting.🙁😩🤔

100% @This thread makes me wonder where and who some guys are visiting

[Skg]

10 hours ago, lustybustygina said:

100% @This thread makes me wonder where and who some guys are visiting

I’m questioning myself on who I am selecting. I’ve been trying to see two different  providers I thought would be a good match for me. After several attempts starting a month ago and still no reply. Instead of no reply they could respond “not taking clients right now”. 

[ilovewomen]

1 hour ago, Skg said:

I’m questioning myself on who I am selecting. I’ve been trying to see two different  providers I thought would be a good match for me. After several attempts starting a month ago and still no reply. Instead of no reply they could respond “not taking clients right now”. 

I would have moved on after a week or so. If they haven’t replied within that time, they either aren’t interested or not available.

[JRWolfe]

On 7/17/2020 at 7:56 PM, lustybustygina said:

100% @This thread makes me wonder where and who some guys are visiting

       You really want us to tell ?

[MeganMarie4u]

On 6/7/2020 at 8:20 PM, arkoshark3377 said:

Its amazing how long it took me to find a provider that really listened to me in what I want to accomplish. Is she the hottest? No. The cheapest? No. But her character and personality make it well worth the 60 mile drive to go there. Being a listening down to earth human being goes a lot farther in my book than looks or being arrogant. To me personality tops all other qualities. I am not the most confident secure man and finding someone that will work with me and be human about it is really refreshing. Half the time I need to talk and gain a repoire with someone before I can be with them physically. I'm just programmed not to be a pig/slob. Plus seeing them as a human being and not just a sperm receptacle. At the end of the day being human to each other makes it that much more meaningful. Fck I must of gone through a hundred texting to find one who takes time to listen and is rewarded for doing so. We extensively texted for almost an evening learning about each other. I told her I wasnt wasting her time and she was awarded handsomely for getting to know each other.  

Im glad you found your perfect match....

 

Please also understand that if we took the time to text every person for hours and hours we would have to find a new job! 

 

If only all guys who said they werent wasting our time were serious.....

[Marilyn Desire]

On 6/30/2020 at 1:46 PM, Amber Allure said:

I always get SUPER worried about responding to a text later than an hour after I received it, because of discretion.

I always tell my clients that if I do not respond to them within an hour because I am busy or whatever the reason is ,they will need to try and reach out to me again to get a response. A lot of clients have a very limited time window of when they can chat with a provider, and I do not want to risk any discretion by reaching out to someone after an hours time. If a client is truly interested in seeing me, he will either reach out again, or contact me via one of the ways I have listed on my ad : )

[Marilyn Desire]

On 7/18/2020 at 6:54 AM, Skg said:

I’m questioning myself on who I am selecting. I’ve been trying to see two different  providers I thought would be a good match for me. After several attempts starting a month ago and still no reply. Instead of no reply they could respond “not taking clients right now”. 

Well if someone is not responding to you, it could be for a few different reasons.

1. Are you contacting them via the method they require, or ask that you do? 

2. Are you sending more than a hi, hey, available, text?

3. Are you asking explicit or leading questions?

4. Do you have a negative reputation with any other providers?

Just a few questions to ask yourself before you contact providers...

[JessicaJonesing]

On 6/8/2020 at 1:34 AM, johnnybgood said:

Had a conversation with one gal who said she'd received over 50 inquiries in one 8 hr span one weekend, can you imagine texting/emailing 50 different guys?  She followed up by saying my appointment and one other for the next day was all that came from all those conversations!  THAT'S A LOT OF WORK!

So now I tend to correspond less with a lady beforehand, ask my main questions and pull the trigger and not waste to much of their time.

Exactly -- it's just not feasible to chat with everyone. I'd do nothing else 24/7 and couldn't pay the bills. And the reason escorts put time into building an extensive personal website (and many are all over social media and sites like this) is done with a "one-to-many" philosophy -- there's tons of pics, videos, words about/by me/us for people to come to understand our personalities and likes/dislikes. Take the time to peruse them, or ask to pay for a texting package.

Anyway, I do respond to every legitimate request -- it's only polite to respond to a person that took time out of their day to introduce themselves -- but if I have to ask thrice for verification and day/time you'd prefer to meet, I stop. And usually block the number permanently, because verything Marilyn said above is true. With the personal addition that the volume of inappropriate messages is kinda irritating and what makes me take breaks from this.

Especially irritating is the buzz on the work phone: "hru" followed immediately by a phallus picture and "available?" So I tend to just turn the phone off when I've had enough of it for the day and respond the next day during work hours. These days? Coupled with my advancing age? Phone's usually off by 4PM and the Merlot is flowing...

[parkercole]

On 7/21/2020 at 3:00 PM, Marilyn Desire said:

Well if someone is not responding to you, it could be for a few different reasons.

1. Are you contacting them via the method they require, or ask that you do? 

2. Are you sending more than a hi, hey, available, text?

3. Are you asking explicit or leading questions?

4. Do you have a negative reputation with any other providers?

Just a few questions to ask yourself before you contact providers...

I'm usually pretty smooth and text a few things.....

1.Yo

2. What up

3. You available right now

These are pretty fail safe for me !

[Raine-7379]

I have a question.  Gentleman that want to endlessly chat and interview a provider, do you stay at work off the clock and work for Free??  Maybe, school teachers put in countelss extra time without pay, but I am guessing must expect to be compensated for their work.

[gr8owl]

14 minutes ago, Raine-7379 said:

I have a question.  Gentleman that want to endlessly chat and interview a provider, do you stay at work off the clock and work for Free??  Maybe, school teachers put in countelss extra time without pay, but I am guessing must expect to be compensated for their work.

For clarity, I am not of the opinion that a lady should work for free.  I certainly do not think they/you should.

That said, in answer to your question in red, yes, absolutely!!  All the time.  Before figuring out how to retire and get out of the rat race, as an engineer I was classified as "exempt" under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA).  Most supervisors, management and professionals are categorized as "exempt" from the FLSA requirement to pay time and one half for hours over 40 in a given week.  The common practice among especially the larger consulting companies (aka today's robber barons!) is to expect engineers to work a minimum of 50 hours per week and frequently up to 70 or 80 hours and only be compensated for a regular salary based upon 40 hours.  So yes, engineers and many other professionals work for free all the time to the tune of 10 to 40 hours per week.  It is an egregious abuse of the intent of the FLSA, but is thoroughly institutionalized in the USA and vigorously protected by the party that starts with "R"  There is also a salary cutoff point above which employers can proclaim an employee "exempt" (around $4000/month) even if they would not otherwise be eligible.  A former employer took the path of giving many employees token, small raises just to get them up to the cutoff salary so they did not have to pay overtime ..... then regularly worked them overtime.  So they too worked many hours for free.

[Bit Banger]

What gr8owl said.  As an engineer my work week varied from 50-90hrs/wk, for which my salary was based on 2000hrs/yr.  When working for my Dad, 70 was a short week. As a consultant my week was usually 50-60hrs.

After my wife got sick, I cut back to 25-30/wk.  Because I was not willing to put in long hours, I did not get the hot projects with the new tools; I was relegated to maintaining old systems.  My skill set was already out of date when I retired.

 

(*) I did get one interesting project because I was one of the few who knew the old languages.

[Bit Banger]

I might add that one company I worked for only accounted for government holidays in their pay plan, no vacation or sick days.  If you wanted a day off you had to bank the hours with overtime.

[JessicaJonesing]

59 minutes ago, Bit Banger said:

What gr8owl said.  As an engineer my work week varied from 50-90hrs/wk, for which my salary was based on 2000hrs/yr.  When working for my Dad, 70 was a short week. As a consultant my week was usually 50-60hrs.

After my wife got sick, I cut back to 25-30/wk.  Because I was not willing to put in long hours, I did not get the hot projects with the new tools; I was relegated to maintaining old systems.  My skill set was already out of date when I retired.

Bit Banger, soooo sorry to read about your wife. Best wishes and I hope she's well on the road to recovery!

Respectfully, there's no multiple of zero that equals lesser pay:  That is: "free" is a long way off from "overworked for a salary". 

Back on this topic I think what Raine was really trying to say is that 95% of the endless texters are either lonely or just want self-help themselves and neither ever visit, so there's no "salary", it's just a waste of time for no/negative compensation (because providers could be working their second job, seeing someone else or doing anything actually conducive to seeing clients -- taking new pictures, videos, etc. etc...). A high contact-to-appointment ratio means providers have to try and manage the total daily time spent chatting or we won't be providers for long.

Just saying, apples and oranges. One can still be a comfortable life (with the safety of mandatory health care options offered and government-backed unemployment insurance), the other is homeless on the street unable to eat.

FWIW, I love talking to men in person -- I've obviously lived my life thus it's kinda boring to me to talk about, so it's fun to listen and learn from others' stories... ...and you tend to quickly meet the real person in this business. :-)

[Bit Banger]

Sales!🥺

Endless talking is the nature of the beast.   One of the reasons I never got into it.  I have a friend who spent 3+ years calling on a major retailer before he got his first order. 😲🎉

Not that that makes a YL’s day any less frustrating. 🤗

[Hazel Hayes VIP]

I enjoy getting to know clients before and afterwards I don't mind staying in touch.. ..each girl does there own thing..I handle business differently 🥰