Funallnight

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Long time listener, first time caller. Thanks for taking my call.

 

My question is this....

Has anyone ever changed anyone else's mind on the internet? I have never seen a discussion here or anywhere that had that outcome. I don't get out much but I've never seen it happen.

 

I get exchanging ideas and pushing back a little when someone says something you don't agree with. Especially when ideas are expressed like some of the ones in the "Looking for a surrogate provider" thread, the callus and or ham handed ones.

I wish we lived in a time like the Enlightenment when people engauged in civil discource with the mutual goal to learn from other and expand our cerebral horizons. Unfortunately our culture is about as far from that as we could get. Having said that, I get the fun in engaging a brick wall in a conversation, occasionally.

Just wondering what you think. On a positive note, it's a great snow year again so I hope your getting out if its' your thing. If not, only 4 more months of winter. Have a good night. 

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I have on occasion been persuaded off the fence to one side on an argument or the other. I’ll admit that it is often manners which win the day.

I have waded into some shitstorms trying to quell the waters.  Sometimes I receive thanks, but more often one side (or both) turn on me, but since I don’t feed the flames I achieve my goal, things quiet down.

There have been times when I have engaged in thoughtful, polite dialogue on contentious subjects. We’ve seldom changed the others positions, but do acknowledge possibilities.  If we were decision makers, I like to think that we might have been able to find a compromise.

Yes, it’s fun (a challenge) to engage in reasoned discourse on the ‘Net.  When the opposition turns to insults, I can easily ignore them, or leave the room. I also ignore those who use insults in support of my positions.

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Agreed, used to be when only when people are driving their car that they are rude.  And alot still are;  but aggressive driver has nothing on the keyboard tough guys.

That's the only place they can be that tough,  they won't do that to your face, because, well, they won't want to get their face smashed in.  They're like grade shool bullies , usually run in a pack.

Us guys are here only for the ladies,  but if we ask a question obviously directed to or for the women,  all these guys answer for them.

This is a hooker website,  all us guys are just customers un less they are "spokesme for their lady."

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Many may not post this publicly but I’m sure that many would say that the topics of conversations here often have causal effects or outcomes.  I’d be willing to wager that many guys on here have decided to go see or not see lady after some of her posts or others posts about her - equally i bet many of he ladies have decided to opt out of a date based on what some of comments men have said here or have been said about them.  

Outcomes are happening everywhere and all the time on these boards,  we may just not be aware of them is my guess. 

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Provider posts have DEFINITELY had an effect on me - just like her profile pics do.  There have been many times when I have gauged a lady's playful/kinky/accommodating/humorous nature  based on what she may have posted in the past....

 

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39 minutes ago, lintlizard said:

Provider posts have DEFINITELY had an effect on me - just like her profile pics do.  There have been many times when I have gauged a lady's playful/kinky/accommodating/humorous nature  based on what she may have posted in the past....

 

Definitely.  
There have been 2-3 ladies whose posts raised red flag; we probably would not have had a good time in person anyway.

But far & away the ladies’ posts have had a positive effect; putting them on my call list.  Then there are some whose back channel banter has moved them up a few notches.😁

It’s a shame I spend so little time in Denver these days.  There are so many fine ladies I’d like to visit personally.😨

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On 2/23/2020 at 10:14 PM, Funallnight said:

I wish we lived in a time like the Enlightenment when people engauged in civil discource with the mutual goal to learn from other and expand our cerebral horizons. Unfortunately our culture is about as far from that as we could get. Having said that, I get the fun in engaging a brick wall in a conversation, occasionally.

Those days are long gone, unfortunately.  I think once you quit hearing "sir" and "ma'am" the rest is soon to follow.  The problem with engaging with those brick walls is you'll just encourage them to keep on with their foolishness.  Just ignore them and they'll go back to the swamp they crawled out of.

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On 2/23/2020 at 10:14 PM, Funallnight said:

My question is this....

Has anyone ever changed anyone else's mind on the internet? I have never seen a discussion here or anywhere that had that outcome. I don't get out much but I've never seen it happen.

I wish we lived in a time like the Enlightenment when people engaged in civil discourse with the mutual goal to learn from other and expand our cerebral horizons. Unfortunately our culture is about as far from that as we could get.

      Have had my opinions changed many times,on Facebook ,watching C-Span , and yes,here on TOB. Sadly,I have to agree with you that discussions do exist online that go nowhere.

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On 2/23/2020 at 10:14 PM, Funallnight said:

Long time listener, first time caller. Thanks for taking my call.

 

My question is this....

Has anyone ever changed anyone else's mind on the internet? I have never seen a discussion here or anywhere that had that outcome. I don't get out much but I've never seen it happen.

 

I get exchanging ideas and pushing back a little when someone says something you don't agree with. Especially when ideas are expressed like some of the ones in the "Looking for a surrogate provider" thread, the callus and or ham handed ones.

I wish we lived in a time like the Enlightenment when people engauged in civil discource with the mutual goal to learn from other and expand our cerebral horizons. Unfortunately our culture is about as far from that as we could get. Having said that, I get the fun in engaging a brick wall in a conversation, occasionally.

Just wondering what you think. On a positive note, it's a great snow year again so I hope your getting out if its' your thing. If not, only 4 more months of winter. Have a good night. 

Really like your style.

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I’ve lost interest in a fair number of providers due to things they said on Twitter. Sometimes it’s because they tweeted or retweeted something I found offensive. But more often, it’s because they present themselves in a way that makes me think I wouldn’t enjoy my time with them. 

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There’s a lot of people I have decided not see because of what they post on here. In hindsight though my outspokenness probably has done the same for me! But I’d rather not see people who I don’t feel I’d get along with. I’m sure y’all feel the same. 

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More on topic though, I try to keep an open mind. I’ve definitely felt enlightened and educated about things I thought I knew about, but in reality didn’t see a whole other side to a story. Being too stubborn can make you seem very ignorant. 

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There's nothing wrong with being outspoken. I actually appreciate it when providers say what they like and what they don't like. But at the same time, if someone repeatedly says things that make me not want to hang out with them, then I know I shouldn't see them.

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Several members here have shown me a different perspective on a variety of topics that paint a bigger picture than what I was seeing. Sometimes months or year after a discussion, when I have more experience or I have a certain experience, then a certain member's words come back to me and ring true. 

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2 hours ago, MyraGold said:

There’s a lot of people I have decided not see because of what they post on here. In hindsight though my outspokenness probably has done the same for me! But I’d rather not see people who I don’t feel I’d get along with. I’m sure y’all feel the same. 

I also think the opposite can be true too. Where someone you (clients and providers alike) might not have been interested in seeing before, for whatever reason, now draws your attention from their posts and you realize they actually sound like more of a fit then just a small snap shot of them

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4 hours ago, FoxCar said:

I’ve lost interest in a fair number of providers due to things they said on Twitter. Sometimes it’s because they tweeted or retweeted something I found offensive. But more often, it’s because they present themselves in a way that makes me think I wouldn’t enjoy my time with them. 

Yes. I have also been put-off by a few provider's Twitter persona, after being turned-on by their website, or their presence here.

It seems that many of the younger women try to appear the super-slut on Twitter and I'm not sure why.

Perhaps they reflect behaviors and/or attitudes expressed in contemporary pornography that do not resonate with me, and many older men in general?

BTW, I know that many of the over 60 group likes it raunchy -- no need to remind me. Each to their own, I say.

Still, why save the nasty bits for Twitter?

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Thanks for everyone's input, I was referring to the troll. I can appreciate the humor of his avatar, but not him. I see that he is still chopping away on that thread. When I was in college in a land and a time far away my friends used to sit around and try to figure life and the world out. We didn't all share the same perspectives but we all liked and respected each other. We would play devils advocate a lot, most of them were way smarter and much more well read than I was. The group included a few older nontraditional students, some retired military guys and nonwhites. ( I went to school in Iowa so getting other perspectives took some work sometimes.) I had people push me to really figure out why I believed what I did and that was a great thing. In doing that you kind of shifted your own perspectives because you need to confront your own biases and weaknesses with the help of others. Great times, and I miss those people. There may have been a bong involved too. 

As far as the other branch of the thread. I agree, there are ladies that make comments that make me want to see them because they seam like really interesting people. Too bad I don't have the time to get up to Denver to make that happen, hopefully someday soon that will be a possibility. I would hate to wait too long and have them retire.

That goes for the guys that replied as well. I read a lot of what they have to say and they seam like intelligent and engaging people who's conversation would be great to get in on.

Have a good night everyone, safe travels.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Old_Timer said:

Yes. I have also been put-off by a few provider's Twitter persona, after being turned-on by their website, or their presence here.

It seems that many of the younger women try to appear the super-slut on Twitter and I'm not sure why.

Perhaps they reflect behaviors and/or attitudes expressed in contemporary pornography that do not resonate with me, and many older men in general?

BTW, I know that many of the over 60 group likes it raunchy -- no need to remind me. Each to their own, I say.

Still, why save the nasty bits for Twitter?

Twitter is about the last place that doesn’t censor you these days, maybe that’s why!

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