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Hello All, I have been away for years but getting reacquainted now. This title may be a bit misleading but my subject is about taking your favorite escort to a strip club. My ATF went with me a few times but I find our enjoyment comes from completely different directions. I go for a private dance and when I return my girl has become the Pied Piper of strippers!! 4 dancers are now at my table and all playing with her, they have all exchanged numbers, planned shopping trips, shared make up yips and hair dos, and know each others stories! Now they all want to dance for her and they play with each other in ways I would get thrown out for! Now if watching does it for you this is great but keep in mind you cant whisper naughty desires to any of them now because now they all have her back and suspect you, dirty dog! Then as you desperately try to close your rapidly growing tab, you discover at least two of them are coming to stay at your place for a few weeks. Not to have wild crazy sex but because their babysitter is going on vacation. When you say no guess what? Nobody is getting sex tonight. This story is based loosely on real experience. Gotta run now...Sparkles baby is waking up!....MT

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If she went willingly  off the clock , with you paying for drinks and giving her some tip money, then I can see this. Otherwise I would never pay a girl to go to a strip club with me. Yes, women at clubs get a lot of leeway on being able to lay on stage and do some things we guys can't do. I never understood this. Yes, if you have strippers at your table, you are buying them drinks. I don't get the two weeks of baby sitting. Why would they live at your place if the baby sitter was on vacation? 

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 Once I took an ex porn star friend to a strip club,she was not on the clock,but my experience was kinda similiar to yours. The club was one I was a part time DJ at at least twenty years before. They were auditioning new DJs that night and they were all worse than the other (house DJ was also boring ) . My ex porn star date taled me into auditioning for fun. Signed up on the list,did my old DJ routines,the manager ran out of his office and hired me on the spot,I declined.Went back to my table and found my ex porn star had attracted some very hot ladies to our table.Couldn't find a chair to join them at. So got a private table dance ,came back to our table and discovered they all exchanged phone numbers. in stead of your contending with babysitters,I had to deal with these ladies coming over for fun. when my ex porn star ladyfriend left town,so did the fun. (this was several years ago,but will never forget it )

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Great reasons for never being dumb enough to do that

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Thanks BBB. Where did all the humor go?...lol

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On 1/20/2020 at 11:58 AM, mtmoves said:

. This title may be a bit misleading but my subject is about taking your favorite escort to a strip club.

       You should have titled this "taking an escort to a strip club."  with your current title,it sounds like a guide to find escorts at strip clubs.

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Hello old friend!! I’m so glad your back! 
Your post was great, it reminded me of when we and a handful of our friends went to my favorite topples bar to celebrate😁

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59 minutes ago, JRWolfe said:

       You should have titled this "taking an escort to a strip club."  with your current title,it sounds like a guide to find escorts at strip clubs.

If you go enough, you can find them.  I have known close to a dozen dancing, from seeing their ads. Went to one last night. New girl applied and started that night. I recognized her tats, from ads I have been seeing for almost 2 years. Finally got to see her face and wasn't disappointed. She gave up her number pretty fast but I never let her know I knew. Too many people within ear shot.

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I intended the title to attract a look! Sadly I have found most dancers I have met at Strip clubs do not make good play mates and I have a theory as to why...most strippers get instinctive about doing just enough to get the money (tips) and no more! Unfortunately this instinct carries over in bed. They separate themselves from the acts and do not connect emotion so they can control the situation. It is necessary in a strippers world to pretend they are sexually accessible and that creates the fantasy that brings the money. I am not being cold here it is just reality and I have visited clubs in six different states and spent years carefully studying this subject...lol There are outstanding exceptions of course and those memories are nice. Honestly the very best escorts I have encountered are those that can connect! This often times is a single Mom or frustrated wife or those rare lovers of sex that have big appetites for the experience who have decided to venture into our crazy Hobby. This also rarely includes young women! That may be controversial but come on a woman in her late teens is usually NOT connected to older men unless there are Daddy issues. From 30s on is my vote for the best and there doesn't seem to be an upward limit! My 2 cents and ramble.

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On 1/21/2020 at 10:25 PM, BigBaldBlk said:

Welcome back mtmoves!

Yes Sir! Nice to see his presence again.

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3 hours ago, mtmoves said:

I intended the title to attract a look! Sadly I have found most dancers I have met at Strip clubs do not make good play mates and I have a theory as to why...most strippers get instinctive about doing just enough to get the money (tips) and no more! Unfortunately this instinct carries over in bed. They separate themselves from the acts and do not connect emotion so they can control the situation. It is necessary in a strippers world to pretend they are sexually accessible and that creates the fantasy that brings the money. I am not being cold here it is just reality and I have visited clubs in six different states and spent years carefully studying this subject...lol There are outstanding exceptions of course and those memories are nice. Honestly the very best escorts I have encountered are those that can connect! This often times is a single Mom or frustrated wife or those rare lovers of sex that have big appetites for the experience who have decided to venture into our crazy Hobby. This also rarely includes young women! That may be controversial but come on a woman in her late teens is usually NOT connected to older men unless there are Daddy issues. From 30s on is my vote for the best and there doesn't seem to be an upward limit! My 2 cents and ramble.

I have to concur with this assessment. Strippers tend to have a hustler instinct, teasing coin out of men’s pockets with the least amount of effort possible.  They hint at the fantasy,  but their goal is to leave him wanting more as he reaches for his last dollar.  😕
Good escorts, on the other hand, fulfill that fantasy.😁

 

BTW: Welcome back, MT

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7 hours ago, mtmoves said:

Sadly I have found most dancers I have met at Strip clubs do not make good play mates and I have a theory as to why...most strippers get instinctive about doing just enough to get the money (tips) and no more! Unfortunately this instinct carries over in bed.

       From my experience of actually working in strip clubs as a DJ...the club owners are very strict about the dancers meeting gents outside the club.Obviously, they don't want vice to close down the club . Not being naive , yes there have been girls that disobey the club owners. But between drugs and escorting,a lot of the clubs we talked about in another thread have been closed down.

 

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7 hours ago, Alex Majors said:

  I have known close to a dozen dancing, from seeing their ads. Went to one last night. New girl applied and started that night. I recognized her tats, from ads I have been seeing for almost 2 years. Finally got to see her face and wasn't disappointed. She gave up her number pretty fast but I never let her know I knew. Too many people within ear shot.

  Thats a good argument against getting/having tats. If you could recognize them,so can those that can close down the club.

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2 hours ago, JRWolfe said:

       From my experience of actually working in strip clubs as a DJ...the club owners are very strict about the dancers meeting gents outside the club.Obviously, they don't want vice to close down the club . Not being naive , yes there have been girls that disobey the club owners. But between drugs and escorting,a lot of the clubs we talked about in another thread have been closed down.

 

True, but my experience says that the hustle attitude usually (though not always) follows a gal if she transitions to being an escort.  Remember a member of this board years ago, an ex-stripper, who frequently said about the least step from vanilla, like DFK, “That’s a fetish; costs extra.”

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1 hour ago, Bit Banger said:

True, but my experience says that the hustle attitude usually (though not always) follows a gal if she transitions to being an escort.  Remember a member of this board years ago, an ex-stripper, who frequently said about the least step from vanilla, like DFK, “That’s a fetish; costs extra.”

     Upselling is not limited to ex strippers.

     as a ps...sometimes i get the feeling that fake/stolen photos are the ultimate hustle.

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2 minutes ago, JRWolfe said:

     Upselling is not limited to ex strippers.

     as a ps...sometimes i get the feeling that fake/stolen photos are the ultimate hustle.

True, but I found it more prevalent.

This is another area where the Internet has reduced surprises for clients, what with the availability of reviews and websites providing the a la carte menus.

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Well as a matter of procedure it is hard to transition from taking to giving. Plus Strippers tend to be in and out a lot more just ask any club owner. Sometimes there is little to no motivation for keeping a regular. 

 

18 hours ago, Laci French said:

This is hilarious 🤣🤣

Hi Sexy Lacy.

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5 hours ago, mtmoves said:

Well as a matter of procedure it is hard to transition from taking to giving. Plus Strippers tend to be in and out a lot more just ask any club owner. Sometimes there is little to no motivation for keeping a regular. 

 

 

  Stripper turnover in the clubs is an understatement. from a DJ booth point of view,some girls hustle,some hide in the dressing room between stage dancing. Usually those that hide tend to bounce from club to club because "there is no money to be made."  Very often ,the ones that see the value of having regulars tend to stick with a club.

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My dancer  friends always want regulars.  I know a girl who has guys scheduled to come in,  for certain times of  the day she dances.   They drop a few hundred each. She also will take a week off,  to travel to other cities.  She has contracts with clubs  to pay a set amount of tip out. She can come and go as she pleases. She is the ultimate hustler. Others will work a club till they become for better words "stale". Then bounce to another,  to become the new girl. Then there are the newbies, who expect a big night every night. These tend to quit pretty quick. They realize they aren't making what they thought,  for what some describe as being molested each night.  They tend to be the girls you tip on stage and never come down to talk to you or hide in back. Those I write off, especially if it is slow and you tell them you are interested in a few dances. The dancers who try to transition into escorting have a different mentality. They make money  just dancing, so they believe they need the bigger bucks to have sex. They rationalize the bigger sums put them in a better category. On the other hand, a girl who is a provider , usually gives a good dance. This can be a prelude to what you can expect outside the club. She dances as a form of advertising. She will  drop hints or give her number out pretty quick. As long as she is careful, the clubs turn a blind eye, because these girls bring in business.  Just don't bring it inside the club. Then they can honestly say nothing is happening in the club. They can't be responsible for what a girl does, once she leaves the property. 

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4 hours ago, Alex Majors said:

Some strippers will work a club till they become for better words "stale". Then bounce to another,  to become the new girl. Then there are the newbies, who expect a big night every night. These tend to quit pretty quick. They realize they aren't making what they thought.

  That is the "fresh meat " theory ' in a nutshell.  New girls,if the DJ promotes them properly as "welcome to the stage,the newest addition to " fill in club name "  "fill in stage name '" can make a ton of money there first couple of nights,but that introduction gets stale quick and its up to how the girl works the crowd on how long they stay.   (Just something I noticed in my DJ days )

Recall having worked with several strippers at one club,when I switched to another,they came in to be "fresh meat.' I always got a kick out of introducing them as " girls that were virgin to the stage and lets give them around of applause to encourage her to take off their clothes for the first time ever. "  (yes,some girls gave me dirty looks,others laughed nervously..to play up the new girl role.)

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4 hours ago, Alex Majors said:

 The dancers who try to transition into escorting have a different mentality. They make money  just dancing, so they believe they need the bigger bucks to have sex. They rationalize the bigger sums put them in a better category.

      Its actually smarter for the strippers to transition to feature dancers to make the bigger bucks. They take the porn and/or mens magazine route to build up their name. (porn and modeling being legal ) Every August there is a convention in Las Vegas for these girls. (I've been to it at least 16 times as both mild mannered reporter and moderator of various panels.)

Just a few of the local strippers that took this route to make a fortune include : Julie Ashton, Kylie Ireland, Leena, Diamond Larocce ,Morgan Fairlane,Drew Allen, Shayla LaVeaux  and the late Rebel Dean .

A top feature dancer can be paid between $500 to $1000  (some times more ) by the club for EACH stage show,plus rake in tips,private table dances,Polaroids with fans and merchandise sales.

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4 hours ago, Alex Majors said:

 I know a girl . She also will take a week off,  to travel to other cities.  She has contracts with clubs  to pay a set amount of tip out. She can come and go as she pleases. She is the ultimate hustler.

   Sounds like the ultimate independent contractor. I know a girl that went to the annual Gentleman's Club Convention and decided not to do porn or magazine work. Instead,she established herself a base in a local club and went on tour to the tiny clubs in Wyoming and Nebraska (and other states ) where the town is Mayberry size enough to support a strip club (usually with one stage and jukebox ),but where the local Aunt Beas' don't want Opies girlfriend to dance in.So they bring in 3-6 strippers a week. Still in touch with her and she says she makes ok money constantly being "fresh meat."

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5 hours ago, Alex Majors said:

 a girl who is a provider , usually gives a good dance. This can be a prelude to what you can expect outside the club. She dances as a form of advertising. She will  drop hints or give her number out pretty quick. As long as she is careful, the clubs turn a blind eye, because these girls bring in business.  Just don't bring it inside the club. Then they can honestly say nothing is happening in the club. They can't be responsible for what a girl does, once she leaves the property. 

  Oh to have a dime for every time I've heard this before the girl gets busted and the club gets closed down.  The club isn't responsible for what she does outside the club..but they are responsible for her dropping hints and especially giving out her ph number.

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15 hours ago, JRWolfe said:

  Oh to have a dime for every time I've heard this before the girl gets busted and the club gets closed down.  The club isn't responsible for what she does outside the club..but they are responsible for her dropping hints and especially giving out her ph number.

Well the ones I go to in Kansas, the law dictates on where a girl can be nude or partially nude in the club. What areas of the body can be touched. She can't openly come out and offer a act for a price. The owners policy is  girls can't leave with patrons that they have seen that night. They have as much right to give out their phone numbers or facebook page as any other resident of the state. There are no laws on them dating someone. I have seen guys bring in dancers on their night off. Not my idea place to go on a date, but some of these guys were married. So the vice unit  at a club is only looking for illegal touching, direct solicitation , underage drinking ( club serving underage dancers) and drugs openly visible.

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20 minutes ago, Alex Majors said:

Well the ones I go to in Kansas, So the vice unit  at a club is only looking for illegal touching, direct solicitation , underage drinking ( club serving underage dancers) and drugs openly visible.

  Again,if only I had a dime everytime I ever heard that is all vice looks for.

I was born in Kansas,have relatives there and talked to club owners from around the country,including Kansas at the LEGAL panels at the annual Gentlemans Club convention in Las Vegas. Handing over a phone number is considered direct communication.

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Undercover is the way it happens which is why if you visit a club regularly everyone relaxes a bit because undercover guys don't have that much time and money to set up a regular visit. I would say that Strippers also develop a pretty good BS detector which helps them. Any real action develops after an established regular consistent visits and spending plus your story must be consistent too. Is it worth it? Depends on if you enjoy the chase! One of my best friends went from Stripper to escort to roommate to treasured friend over the course of twelve years. Interesting discussion!

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15 hours ago, mtmoves said:

Undercover is the way it happens which is why if you visit a club regularly everyone relaxes a bit because undercover guys don't have that much time and money to set up a regular visit. I would say that Strippers also develop a pretty good BS detector which helps them. Any real action develops after an established regular consistent visits .

      Another if I ever had a dime for every time I heard this theory.   Back when I was a DJ at Uncle Grumpys in Boulder ,came to work one day and there was a "seized and closed ' sign on the door,with a court date on it. Curious, I went to the court date,sat in the back and watched a parade of "regular customers ' turn out to be undercover vice that came into that strip club for two years ,while building a case to close it down. Never did get my last paycheck.That site has long since been torn down and a Best Buy is now there.

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On 1/23/2020 at 11:43 AM, mtmoves said:

I intended the title to attract a look! Sadly I have found most dancers I have met at Strip clubs do not make good play mates and I have a theory as to why...most strippers get instinctive about doing just enough to get the money (tips) and no more! Unfortunately this instinct carries over in bed. They separate themselves from the acts and do not connect emotion so they can control the situation. It is necessary in a strippers world to pretend they are sexually accessible and that creates the fantasy that brings the money. I am not being cold here it is just reality and I have visited clubs in six different states and spent years carefully studying this subject...lol There are outstanding exceptions of course and those memories are nice. Honestly the very best escorts I have encountered are those that can connect! This often times is a single Mom or frustrated wife or those rare lovers of sex that have big appetites for the experience who have decided to venture into our crazy Hobby. This also rarely includes young women! That may be controversial but come on a woman in her late teens is usually NOT connected to older men unless there are Daddy issues. From 30s on is my vote for the best and there doesn't seem to be an upward limit! My 2 cents and ramble.

Strippers dont escort 

escorts dont strip

some exceptions to the rule but for the most part

thats how it goes.

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