Fair is fair

[Guest]

So fair is fair right? So my question is this...if a provider has the right to refuse whom ever, could a hobby-st request partial pay upon horrible service or even better refuse payment and leave if upon arriving, finding provider and such environment unsatisfactory? Or should that person chop it up as a lost and continue on? Know I know some people gonna get there panties in a bunch and this is only a discussion but seriously if a provider has the luxury to pick and choose shouldn’t the hobby-st have that luxury, also being that it is his or her choice on being spent on what ever activity is chosen? Isn’t there a such thing as supply and demand?

[pfunk]

Personally, I'll just treat people like I want to be treated. If I meet someone (cashier, mechanic, escort, or janitor) that I don't get along with, I'll simply avoid that person in the future.

[oldguy47]

15 hours ago, Matumbo said:

So fair is fair right? So my question is this...if a provider has the right to refuse whom ever, could a hobby-st request partial pay upon horrible service or even better refuse payment and leave if upon arriving, finding provider and such environment unsatisfactory? Or should that person chop it up as a lost and continue on? Know I know some people gonna get there panties in a bunch and this is only a discussion but seriously if a provider has the luxury to pick and choose shouldn’t the hobby-st have that luxury, also being that it is his or her choice on being spent on what ever activity is chosen? Isn’t there a such thing as supply and demand?

you have the right to pick and choose who you see. If the person at the door isn't the person in the pics or the pics are no longer representative you are free to walk away without paying IMO. It gets fuzzier after entry. I'd rather exit the situation, lose the money, and write a negative review than argue over a relatively small amount of money.

[jus12pla]

I don't think it is really acceptable anywhere in any business to know the cost of a service and then personally determine after the service is performed what the value of the service was worth to you.  If the service supplied was not worth what you demanded, (probably an inappropriate choice of words there), ... like Pfunk said " simply avoid that person in the future".  Maybe post a polite review if the behavior was particularly egregious and let the free market decide.  

[JRWolfe]

16 hours ago, Matumbo said:

So fair is fair right? So my question is this...if a provider has the right to refuse whom ever, could a hobby-st request partial pay upon horrible service or even better refuse payment and leave if upon arriving, finding provider and such environment unsatisfactory? Or should that person chop it up as a lost and continue on? Know I know some people gonna get there panties in a bunch and this is only a discussion but seriously if a provider has the luxury to pick and choose shouldn’t the hobby-st have that luxury, also being that it is his or her choice on being spent on what ever activity is chosen? Isn’t there a such thing as supply and demand?

  You picked and chose which ad to respond to. As others have said , if the lady that answers the door is NOT the one in the photo...walk,do not enter,just walk away. Ditto if the environment gets your spidey sense tingling.

Even when the service is horrible , requesting a partial pay is not acceptable, after all...fantastic or awful,you have been served. just write a review about your experience.

To avoid a bad situation/horrible service.Do your homework by reading previous reviews on the escort whose ad got you interested.If she has bad reviews,avoid setting up an appointment.

[Alex Majors]

I agree with what has been said above. Your right to walk away ends once you go in and  close the door behind you. If she isn't the girl in the pictures, you can tell her that is the reason you are leaving. Bait and switch .  Now the quality of the service to some,  is like beauty being in the eye of the beholder.  Just do an honest review, so others have a more informed choice. Maybe not your cup of tea but maybe someone else's cup. Like trying anything new, you can say you did it twice"First and Last".

[JoDoe27]

Wait. Are you guys saying as soon as he walks in, the door closes behind him, and he he realizes it’s not the person/dated photos/things are off or whatever negatives you can come up with, he’s still “obligated” to leave some donation or follow through? Because if that’s the case please someone tell me the last time they went to an outcall and the door was opened fully, the woman standing there in all her glory, you got a full look and then walked in. Or is it the door is left partially opened and you walk in or the lady opens it up but is standing behind it (I understand why they stand behind it is not to fool you) and do you don’t see shit until you’re in and the door closes behind you? I really just want that clarification. 

 

[MeganMarie4u]

17 hours ago, Matumbo said:

So fair is fair right? So my question is this...if a provider has the right to refuse whom ever, could a hobby-st request partial pay upon horrible service or even better refuse payment and leave if upon arriving, finding provider and such environment unsatisfactory? Or should that person chop it up as a lost and continue on? Know I know some people gonna get there panties in a bunch and this is only a discussion but seriously if a provider has the luxury to pick and choose shouldn’t the hobby-st have that luxury, also being that it is his or her choice on being spent on what ever activity is chosen? Isn’t there a such thing as supply and demand?

Donations are for TIME not for activites chosen. 

 

If a client.... enters my incall (after reading my 50+ reviews) i expect the full donation FOR MY TIME that i set aside for that client. If you choose to "walk" after entering without paying you will be blacklisted as a time waster. 

 

That being said.... if the pics are inaccurate.... walk before entering ( you never know the situation behind those fake pics) BUT IF TIME IS SPENT.... you owe the FULL donation for the alotted time you requested. Even if you leave after 20 minutes, because the lady allotted you a window of time where shes unavailable to do anything else!

 

Love seeing all the men comment! But would love some more ladies to chime in!

 

Xoxo

[Audrey Astor]

It just sounds like you’re coming off bitter, and maybe this is not a good hobby for you. And  at this point, it is starting to sound very unbecoming. There is so much information here, that you honestly should not find yourself in that situation. If you do, there are ways to behave and handle it that are appropriate and equitable for both parties.

I think we discussed this on your other thread, but there is SOMEONE for everyone. EERYONE IS NOT FOT EVERYONE in such a personal adventure. I’m close to 5’8”, and have meat on my bones. Guys that like skinny short girls are never going to see me. Am I jumping up and down about how unfair it is? As I asked you previously, why would you want to see someone who doesn’t want to see you? AWKWARD! And it sounds a bit controlling and morbid 😕 

It May be a better option to meet a civie/ someone in public. You would at least know you’re attracted to one another 🤷‍♀️

 

[ilovewomen]

When you contact a lady to arrange a meeting, typically she has pics that have helped you decide to meet her.

If you show up and can see before entering it is not the same lady...walk.

If she doesn’t let you see her before entering and upon entering you determine she isn’t the same lady in the pics, you have about a 5-10 second window to state that and leave.

However if you proceed and the meeting is not what you expected, you are not entitled to a discount.

Write a review.

Chalk it up to experience.

Move on.

[Marilyn Desire]

I had a guy show up, read my posted rules, and then decide he did not like them so he walked, or course without payment. I was a little upset and of course BL him, but I would rather he walked then stayed and tried to cross my boundaries or violate my rules. No amount of money is worth dealing with a hostile, or unhappy client! 

[oldguy47]

6 hours ago, MeganMarie4u said:

Donations are for TIME not for activites chosen. 

While that's stated if the time is spent teaching the clarinet then in all probability the gent will rightly be furious and ripped off.

[wglide2003]

Most of the ladies stand behind the door when you enter, If it is a bait and switch I will walk immediately, If pictures are old or inaccurate and do not give a reasonable representation. I may walk within the first minute, butvI may give her a portion of the donation for her time to prepare.

If you spend any time regardless of the activities you owe her the donation.

[Raine-7379]

Do your research... Make sure you look at her age, height weight and not just the pictures.  You owe her cancellation fee if you leave because you did not do your homework.  I am 50, do not expect a 30 year old to answer the door, and leave because you did not read!!!

[inkspot]

There are so many more reasons for walking away from an appointment other than appearance of the provider.

For example, what if you enter in a hallway only to find the living room is a complete mess after you enter?  Or have a bad odor in the room?

What do you do if you walk into a hotel room and find the room service has rolled up all the bed linens and you are expected to have activities on a bare mattress?

And finally my favorite, you are met at the door by a beautiful person only to have her turn psycho shouting orders after you enter.

I only bring up these as examples to consider if one should stay or leave - after you enter.

[MeganMarie4u]

28 minutes ago, inkspot said:

There are so many more reasons for walking away from an appointment other than appearance of the provider.

For example, what if you enter in a hallway only to find the living room is a complete mess after you enter?  Or have a bad odor in the room?

What do you do if you walk into a hotel room and find the room service has rolled up all the bed linens and you are expected to have activities on a bare mattress?

And finally my favorite, you are met at the door by a beautiful person only to have her turn psycho shouting orders after you enter.

I only bring up these as examples to consider if one should stay or leave - after you enter.

😳 um.... let me know if you need help finding a lady that wont have these issues.... 😂

Housekeeping rolled up the sheets and left a girl in the room with no linens?! Wtf!

[Mike940370]

9 hours ago, pfunk said:

Personally, I'll just treat people like I want to be treated. If I meet someone (cashier, mechanic, escort, or janitor) that I don't get along with, I'll simply avoid that person in the future.

Just an amazing upright fellow unless he has a keyboard to insult people

[ilovewomen]

17 minutes ago, Mike940370 said:

Just an amazing upright fellow unless he has a keyboard to insult people

The same could be said about you.

[Guest]

13 hours ago, MeganMarie4u said:

Donations are for TIME not for activites chosen. 

 

If a client.... enters my incall (after reading my 50+ reviews) i expect the full donation FOR MY TIME that i set aside for that client. If you choose to "walk" after entering without paying you will be blacklisted as a time waster. 

 

That being said.... if the pics are inaccurate.... walk before entering ( you never know the situation behind those fake pics) BUT IF TIME IS SPENT.... you owe the FULL donation for the alotted time you requested. Even if you leave after 20 minutes, because the lady allotted you a window of time where shes unavailable to do anything else!

 

Love seeing all the men comment! But would love some more ladies to chime in!

 

Xoxo

    

 

10 hours ago, Crystyna said:

I had a guy show up, read my posted rules, and then decide he did not like them so he walked, or course without payment. I was a little upset and of course BL him, but I would rather he walked then stayed and tried to cross my boundaries or violate my rules. No amount of money is worth dealing with a hostile, or unhappy client! 

Hmmmm... saw your posted rules and left... so he obviously didn’t read anything before making apt and arriving... hint #1:get your ducks in a row and research before booking and arriving... smh

[Hunter VanDyke]

6 hours ago, inkspot said:

There are so many more reasons for walking away from an appointment other than appearance of the provider.

For example, what if you enter in a hallway only to find the living room is a complete mess after you enter?  Or have a bad odor in the room?

What do you do if you walk into a hotel room and find the room service has rolled up all the bed linens and you are expected to have activities on a bare mattress?

And finally my favorite, you are met at the door by a beautiful person only to have her turn psycho shouting orders after you enter.

I only bring up these as examples to consider if one should stay or leave - after you enter.

What if the odor is fried chicken, or like some garlic and onions and olive oil? Is that considered a bad odor, because sometimes I'll be having some serious cravings. I will share though, and I don't cook seafood in my spot. Even with candles, air freshener, and fresh air through the windows, sometimes you can still smell food.  I have always wondered if that bothers you guys. Definitely not a reason to bail on the appt, but does it bother y'all?

Honestly, I get embarrassed if anything is out of place, or the floor needs to he vacuumed, or the mirrors aren't clean. I'm a procrastinator, so I'm always running around shoving something in some hiding place right before a client comes. If my place was a full on mess though, I'd have to cancel the appointment. 

[ilovewomen]

Unfortunately, life isn’t fair.

[Alex Majors]

Yes, if you didn't do your research and it was out there, you owe the girl. This is her job. How would you like to show up for work ready to go and have your boss dock you$250 or more because there was nothing to do. If she wasn't the girl in the pictures, then it is on her. A couple extra pounds doen't count.  30 pounds, then her pics should have been current.

[parkercole]

On 9/13/2019 at 3:16 PM, Matumbo said:

So fair is fair right? So my question is this...if a provider has the right to refuse whom ever, could a hobby-st request partial pay upon horrible service or even better refuse payment and leave if upon arriving, finding provider and such environment unsatisfactory? Or should that person chop it up as a lost and continue on? Know I know some people gonna get there panties in a bunch and this is only a discussion but seriously if a provider has the luxury to pick and choose shouldn’t the hobby-st have that luxury, also being that it is his or her choice on being spent on what ever activity is chosen? Isn’t there a such thing as supply and demand?

come on, NO!

hang out here a little longer. you'll understand doing your homework is important. sometimes on a rare occasion something happens where it's a miss. and that happens to no fault of either party. just bad chemistry or luck. 

if it's something uncool and misleading. one, bail. two, if you stay and it's a bad experience(hygiene, 3G, phone usage/continual texting, bait and switch, misleading services). please write a review of your experience..... 

 

1 hour ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

What if the odor is fried chicken, or like some garlic and onions and olive oil? Is that considered a bad odor, because sometimes I'll be having some serious cravings. I will share though, and I don't cook seafood in my spot. Even with candles, air freshener, and fresh air through the windows, sometimes you can still smell food.  I have always wondered if that bothers you guys. Definitely not a reason to bail on the appt, but does it bother y'all?

Honestly, I get embarrassed if anything is out of place, or the floor needs to he vacuumed, or the mirrors aren't clean. I'm a procrastinator, so I'm always running around shoving something in some hiding place right before a client comes. If my place was a full on mess though, I'd have to cancel the appointment. 

ya know, I use to be totally grossed out by garlic and onion breath. because there is no covering up garlic when one eats it! so I can see if someone is bothered or repulsed by over stimulating or unattractive smells. this even applies to soaps, candles, colognes or perfumes.

but as crazy as this may sound. if i'm really attracted to a partner. now I really dig kissing them garlic/onion breath and all! 

[Hunter VanDyke]

1 hour ago, parkercole said:

come on, NO!

hang out here a little longer. you'll understand doing your homework is important. sometimes on a rare occasion something happens where it's a miss. and that happens to no fault of either party. just bad chemistry or luck. 

if it's something uncool and misleading. one, bail. two, if you stay and it's a bad experience(hygiene, 3G, phone usage/continual texting, bait and switch, misleading services). please write a review of your experience..... 

 

ya know, I use to be totally grossed out by garlic and onion breath. because there is no covering up garlic when one eats it! so I can see if someone is bothered or repulsed by over stimulating or unattractive smells. this even applies to soaps, candles, colognes or perfumes.

but as crazy as this may sound. if i'm really attracted to a partner. now I really dig kissing them garlic/onion breath and all! 

😂😂😂

I love the smell of garlic on my fingertips after chopping garlic. It's stay on my fingers forever. Lemon will get rid of the smell if I remember to use it. I'd rather not, but I'm a weirdo.

Sadly, I've given up on street tacos during a day I'm working because of the onions, which I will admit I used to indulge in quite often until Bora Bora brought up in a thread how gross it was to smell raw onion breath on a provider.  Thank you Bora for ruining that for me, although I'm sure many a client is grateful to you for that post. 😋

[JRWolfe]

On 9/14/2019 at 8:24 AM, MeganMarie4u said:

 

That being said.... if the pics are inaccurate.... walk before entering ( you never know the situation behind those fake pics)

   There is ZERO excuse to use fake (stolen ) pictures.  Especially if its a face shot of someone else,you can ruin her life. (Hmm,should I repost what happened to an innocent lady ? )

If one wants to protect their identity,just blur the face . (example )

As this and hundreds of previous threads before have made clear,not one client prefers bait and switch photos.

Agree, do the homework....age,height,weight,ink, reviews etc etc.   And ladies PLEASE be honest in your self descriptions. Stating that your measurements are N/A , taking years off your age,saying some ink when one is covered with it, etc etc will result in more clients walking,which is a waste of time for you both.

(Not saying ALL ladies are dishonest in self descriptions and photos,but bait and switch does exist often )

[oldguy47]

19 hours ago, Raine-7379 said:

Do your research... Make sure you look at her age, height weight and not just the pictures.  You owe her cancellation fee if you leave because you did not do your homework.  I am 50, do not expect a 30 year old to answer the door, and leave because you did not read!!!

I think if the pictures are 20 years old it's reasonable to walk even if the text gives the current age. It's reasonable to expect current pictures of the actual person just like it's reasonable to expect the text to be accurate. Truth in advertising, from both parties, is mandatory IMO.