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22 minutes ago, lintlizard said:

Yeah, really.

Pretty much everyone I know who own firearms has some kind of make my day mentality that I personally find kind of distasteful.... 

I've known a few ranchers who have rifles on hand to put down Ol' Bessy, or shoot a fox in the hen house, but most of the city dwellers I know who are packing in public (registered and not) just seem to be angry about something - loosing their "rights", or the "illegals comin' cross the border", or "the gays" ....

As with everything, there are likely to be exceptions  - but as for the OP, I can say I don't wanna hang with a provider who's got a loaded gun under her pillow.  Just not the vibe I wanna partake in. 

 

I guess what you dont know wont hurt you huh..... 😂

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I still remember a while back, in bed w/civilian.  When I reached under her pillow, my hand landed on. Judge.

She promptly put it in a locked nightstand drawer.

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2 hours ago, lintlizard said:

Yeah, really.

Pretty much everyone I know who own firearms has some kind of make my day mentality that I personally find kind of distasteful.... 

I've known a few ranchers who have rifles on hand to put down Ol' Bessy, or shoot a fox in the hen house, but most of the city dwellers I know who are packing in public (registered and not) just seem to be angry about something - loosing their "rights", or the "illegals comin' cross the border", or "the gays" ....

As with everything, there are likely to be exceptions  - but as for the OP, I can say I don't wanna hang with a provider who's got a loaded gun under her pillow.  Just not the vibe I wanna partake in. 

 

People with concealed carry permits, nationwide, are more law abiding than police officers by a large margin, especially on violent crime such as rape, assault, murder, armed robbery, etc.

Almost sound like it's more politics you have an issue with.  

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I am okay with it as long as I know about it beforehand, and it stays locked and in the holster.

I grew up around rifles, and shot handguns a time or two back in my day, but I honestly was more lethal with a knife, and I used to have one under my pillow that I had for protection.

I have gotten lazy with shooting and throwing knives so I am going to hone my skills this summer as I think everyone should know how to defend themselves. It seems the world isn't getting any kinder, and I sure am going to do my damnedest to keep our 2nd Amendment alive. 

Xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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if it was concealed how would you know if the gentleman brought a weapon into the call? 

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17 hours ago, MeganMarie4u said:

🙄 thats pretty fucking stereotypical dont you think? MOSTLY? come on now.... let's be realistic...... 

I think to put it a little differently would be to say that the energy you carry with you is the energy you will attract. I’m probably going to take a lot of shit for saying this but, I think if you carry a gun, one day you will have to use it. 

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2 hours ago, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

if it was concealed how would you know if the gentleman brought a weapon into the call? 

Maybe they went through his pockets looking for loose change. Oh wait. That was Billy Crystal.

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I'm more curious about how many providers pack heat than their clients...

I've had a provider pull out a gun during the start of a session. We had just smoked a bowl and it was kind of like "Here. Check out this cool thing I have..." and pulls a .380 out of her luggage; magazine loaded, her finger all over the trigger. This was a provider that I knew struggled with drugs in the past (harder ones than pot) and had clearly relapsed. I doubt the gun was legally possessed of that she knew about how to responsibly use one. On my side, as the client, that night was a slightly terrifying experience (it was also a really hot session. I hope she's gotten some help.)

But yeah, guys, even if you're a law abiding CCW licensed holder, leave the gun in the car when you're going into a session. Everyday carry doesn't mean you have to carry every moment of every day. In 90% of the worst case scenarios you'd run into with a provider, having a gun on you won't make things better, and could defintely make them worse.

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5 hours ago, seneca12 said:

But yeah, guys, even if you're a law abiding CCW licensed holder, leave the gun in the car when you're going into a session. Everyday carry doesn't mean you have to carry every moment of every day. In 90% of the worst case scenarios you'd run into with a provider, having a gun on you won't make things better, and could defintely make them worse.

Personal safety is all about risk management. 

Thats what I teach in my class when I get to the part about revolvers vs semi-autos.  Revolvers having limited ammo and harder to reload vs more capacity, and that leads into how much do you need more ammunition?  The vastly likely scenario is you don't need any ammo, because most people go throughout their entire lives never needing it.  Next most likely is still none, because merely showing the firearm is enough to deter an attack.  Now we're getting into one in 10 thousand odds that one bullet is needed either for a warning shot or one hit on an attacker is enough.  Finally you get into the one in a billion odds that you'll need an special forces infantry team to take care of the dozen ninja assassins out to get you.  Life is all about risk management

So what's my point?  I'm agreeing with seneca12 here, as statistically you're more likely to have a bad time because you brought a firearm where not expected than to need it, because you're kicked out of the session when it's seen.  Seeing someone in an escort scenario, especially for the first time, does have a non-zero risk of needing a firearm.  Each person does need to figure out their own tolerance for risk but churches, supermarkets, driving, even sitting at home is also non-zero risk of harm.  My personal thought would be leave it in the car at least the first visit, because you should have already figured out your safety risk enough to even schedule the visit in the first place.  After the first visit I would hope you could broach the subject of "I have a question, I typically carry and don't feel comfortable leaving it in the glove box outside, would it be an issue if I safely carried into your home/hotel/etc during my next visit?"

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10 hours ago, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

if it was concealed how would you know if the gentleman brought a weapon into the call? 

After reading some of the the earlier replies to this thread, I started lightly patting down their clothing before laying them across the chair. I let them know it is for my safety. It only takes a few seconds. I do it in front of them. No one I have seen seemed to have a problem with it. They seem to be understanding. I hope so anyway. 💙

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1 hour ago, FuriousWeasel said:

....  My personal thought would be leave it in the car at least the first visit, because you should have already figured out your safety risk enough to even schedule the visit in the first place.  ...

Especially the ^bold^

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On another note, I also love it when guys show me their "gun". 😉 

Xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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On 6/3/2019 at 0:28 PM, new2hobbying said:

Why go to west texas just go to shooters grill on rifle Colorado.

Oh, Yeah. I loved the place. I ate there several times a few years ago on my western slope travels. Good food, pretty ladies & some interesting revolvers.

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17 hours ago, FuriousWeasel said:

Personal safety is all about risk management. 

Thats what I teach in my class when I get to the part about revolvers vs semi-autos.  Revolvers having limited ammo and harder to reload vs more capacity, and that leads into how much do you need more ammunition?  The vastly likely scenario is you don't need any ammo, because most people go throughout their entire lives never needing it.  Next most likely is still none, because merely showing the firearm is enough to deter an attack.  Now we're getting into one in 10 thousand odds that one bullet is needed either for a warning shot or one hit on an attacker is enough.  Finally you get into the one in a billion odds that you'll need an special forces infantry team to take care of the dozen ninja assassins out to get you.  Life is all about risk management

So what's my point?  I'm agreeing with seneca12 here, as statistically you're more likely to have a bad time because you brought a firearm where not expected than to need it, because you're kicked out of the session when it's seen.  Seeing someone in an escort scenario, especially for the first time, does have a non-zero risk of needing a firearm.  Each person does need to figure out their own tolerance for risk but churches, supermarkets, driving, even sitting at home is also non-zero risk of harm.  My personal thought would be leave it in the car at least the first visit, because you should have already figured out your safety risk enough to even schedule the visit in the first place.  After the first visit I would hope you could broach the subject of "I have a question, I typically carry and don't feel comfortable leaving it in the glove box outside, would it be an issue if I safely carried into your home/hotel/etc during my next visit?"

I am hardly an expert at self-defense, and though I'm experienced with guns, I do not own one. But what I understand of conceal carry is that you never brandish a gun to threaten a person or warn them off, much less fire a warning shot (which may get you into more trouble than actually killing your assailant). I've always heard that you never unholster your weapon unless the next thing you are going to do is fire center-mass into your target until they fall. Then, you wait for the cops and say only two things: "I was afraid for my life," and  "Lawyer." If the other person is brandishing a knife or some other melee weapon within fifteen feet of you, it will be considered a good shoot.

But yeah. I'm no expert in these things. When I think about the worst case scenarios, in the situation where the provider rips you off with the typical "Well, the fee we talked about was just to get me into the room..." spiel, pulling a gun on her to get your donation back is bad idea. If a pimp walks out of the bathroom and tells you they are keeping the fee and get the fuck out of here, pulling a weapon is also a bad idea. If the pimp comes out of the bathroom with a weapon and tells you they are keeping the fee and now let's go down to the ATM and let's withdraw more of your money, light him up (never allow yourself to be taken to a secondary location by an assailant). If the provider is actually a psycho who is intent on hurting men who engage in the hobby for their skewed conception of feminism and wants to kill you 1) you should do better research and vetting and 2) you are in an extremely rare situation.

I wholeheartedly agree that bringing a gun to your first session with a lady brings some bad vibes with it. If carrying is important to you, mention it to the provider. Who knows, maybe she's a gun enthusiast too.

I give a bit more leeway to providers having a gun with them in their incall, or taking it to an outcall. But for fucks sake don't pull it out on a lark, and don't pull it out if you're inebriated. If you're at an outcall and the guy has NRA posters all over his house and looks like a responsible gun owner, go ahead and offer to show your piece. Or, if some crazed incel slips your screening and is suddenly threatening you, perhaps pulling a gun out will be enough to get him out of the room. But remember, pulling a piece out is an extreme escalation and if it gets to that point where it's your business or your life, most of you will choose your life. But even in the best, most clear-cut shoots (dude is a serial killer, murdering prostitutes all over the country, has duct tape, knives, and guns on him when he comes to your session and you get the drop on him) your career as a provider is over, your identity will be completely exposed as a matter of public record, and your life will never be the same.

I am curious if any providers have had to use a gun to deter a shitty client.

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On 6/3/2019 at 6:18 PM, Laci French said:

If you have carry permit you will lose that shit real quick in the commission of a crime.

This ^.    I know in my state, even getting into a verbal argument with someone puts your permit on thin ice.

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3 hours ago, seneca12 said:

... But remember, pulling a piece out is an extreme escalation and if it gets to that point where it's your business or your life, most of you will choose your life. ...

When you pull a piece, you should have already decided to kill the target.  No threats, no shoot to wound, no warning shots - you are prepared for SHOOT TO KILL.

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6 hours ago, Bit Banger said:

When you pull a piece, you should have already decided to kill the target.  No threats, no shoot to wound, no warning shots - you are prepared for SHOOT TO KILL.

 

6 hours ago, Bit Banger said:

When you pull a piece, you should have already decided to kill the target.  No threats, no shoot to wound, no warning shots - you are prepared for SHOOT TO KILL.

This. Additionally two to the center mass plus one to the forehead. As taught a very long time ago in a military school. 

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1 hour ago, mountainrider33 said:

I have to see the statistics on this.  If you're going to throw out that big of a statement then you must have a link to back it up.

I looked this one up when it was posted. You can find it said starting about 4 years ago and then repeated almost yearly with most, if not all, stating it either repeating the previous years with some changes. And most, if not all, coming from pro-gun sites. 

It was difficult to find much beyond that.

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3 hours ago, mountainrider33 said:

I have to see the statistics on this.  If you're going to throw out that big of a statement then you must have a link to back it up.

Quick answer: https://crimeresearch.org/2015/02/comparing-conviction-rates-between-police-and-concealed-carry-permit-holders/

Factor of 10 difference.

There are more.  The other recent big one from a year or so ago was a similar 10x ratio for domestic violence in favor of CC holders.

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14 hours ago, seneca12 said:

I am hardly an expert at self-defense, and though I'm experienced with guns, I do not own one. But what I understand of conceal carry is that you never brandish a gun to threaten a person or warn them off, much less fire a warning shot (which may get you into more trouble than actually killing your assailant). I've always heard that you never unholster your weapon unless the next thing you are going to do is fire center-mass into your target until they fall. Then, you wait for the cops and say only two things: "I was afraid for my life," and  "Lawyer." If the other person is brandishing a knife or some other melee weapon within fifteen feet of you, it will be considered a good shoot.

We're starting to get far off topic but the mantra of not brandishing is to keep stupid people from doing stupid things, like "I want extra cheese on my big mac but don't want to pay for it!" and pull up their shirt.

Yes, you should never draw unless you are ready and willing to shoot to stop the attack.  

However, during the process of exposing your carry, starting to draw, drawing, raising the firearm up to aim, and up until you actually pull the trigger if something changes, for example the attacker turns away and starts to run, you do not have to continue to fire just because you drew and you're afraid of being charged with brandishing.

Additionally, if you're in fear for your life, to hell with the law.  I'd rather get charged for brandishing than have to shoot someone if that means I'm no longer in danger.

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24 minutes ago, FuriousWeasel said:

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Additionally, if you're in fear for your life, to hell with the law.  I'd rather get charged for brandishing than have to shoot someone if that means I'm no longer in danger.

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

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Yeah, well, I'm more macho than any of you rascals, because my gun is bigger!

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32 minutes ago, BadBoy said:

Yeah, well, I'm more macho than any of you rascals, because my gun is bigger!

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Reminds me of a scene from City Heat (1984).  Check out at about 2:15

 

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On 6/3/2019 at 10:00 AM, Hunter VanDyke said:

I'm not comfortable with men I've never even met bringing knives, guns, weapons of any sort into my private space where we'll be spending time alone.  I would ask you to leave. That's just me though. Every lady has a different comfort level. As far as carrying...keys, phone, wallet, maybe a comb, maybe a gift, beverage, that's about it.

You know, I get the whole "carry" law I really do. It's good for many reasons, not here though, especially if you've seen a special provider on one or more occasion and if that's the case why would you be carrying? Did you not do your homework?  Carry if you've never seen a provider? Obviously you have not done your homework. Leave the gun in your car always. No exceptions. It's embarrassing to me as a competent gun owner that I even have to respond to this.

Men, do you REALLY THINK you have to carry to a providers incall? Please think about what you are doing. And please do your HOMEWORK! I for one would never carry to a providers home for any reason.

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On 6/6/2019 at 7:22 PM, BadBoy said:

Yeah, well, I'm more macho than any of you rascals, because my gun is bigger!

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Actually, I carry a tiny gun to make up for my gigantic penis!

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On 6/2/2019 at 8:50 PM, Taximan said:

I haven’t up to now, so I want to know how the ladies feel about gentlemen coming to a date carrying a concealed weapon ?

I've had a couple guys bring their CC in and it didnt bother me, but it would be a nice heads up. One guy was taking off his pants when the gun fell to the ground. I didnt even know he had brought it in, until it fell. If you do choose to carry at least be safe with it!

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47 minutes ago, Crystyna said:

I've had a couple guys bring their CC in and it didnt bother me, but it would be a nice heads up. One guy was taking off his pants when the gun fell to the ground. I didnt even know he had brought it in, until it fell. If you do choose to carry at least be safe with it!

That's a good time to sit the guy down and tell him "Look, you spent 700 bucks on a carry gun, but then you went out and bought a piece of crap 20 dollar nylon holster that is useless.  Next time I'd better see you with a nice form fitting kydex one before you kill someone through carelessness."

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Lol, these threads crack me up. Bunch of John Waynes acting tough. The, when push comes to shove, they run away like girly-men. Or, by the time they fumble for their gun, the bad guy's already beat them over the head with a 2X4.:D:lol:

I guess you gotta pack something...;)

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32 minutes ago, 2Big said:

Lol, these threads crack me up. Bunch of John Waynes acting tough. The, when push comes to shove, they run away like girly-men. Or, by the time they fumble for their gun, the bad guy's already beat them over the head with a 2X4.:D:lol:

I guess you gotta pack something...;)

If you're not going to Greece you don't need to pack shit. :D

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