Hunter VanDyke

Is The Official Name for The Springs The Colorado Springs Cock Blockers?!?!

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12 minutes ago, Cherry aka Miya said:

Or hold your review tlll you get your reference??

Won’t work. Reviews can’t be posted more than 30days after the session. It was usually longer than that between sessions.

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2 minutes ago, Bit Banger said:

Won’t work. Reviews can’t be posted more than 30days after the session. It was usually longer than that between sessions.

Kinda figured that had flaw in it but couldn't think of it. 

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Now when we talk about references, are we talking about the ones that the guys can request throught this site from a lady they've seen, and that can be shared with other ladies, or are we taking about ladies talking directly to each other about a guy that one of them has seen, and that the other lady is screening? 

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8 minutes ago, Mustang87 said:

Now when we talk about references, are we talking about the ones that the guys can request throught this site from a lady they've seen, and that can be shared with other ladies, or are we taking about ladies talking directly to each other about a guy that one of them has seen, and that the other lady is screening? 

More so the ladies communicating directly to share info by phone email or pm

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12 minutes ago, Mustang87 said:

Now when we talk about references, are we talking about the ones that the guys can request throught this site from a lady they've seen, and that can be shared with other ladies, or are we taking about ladies talking directly to each other about a guy that one of them has seen, and that the other lady is screening? 

I like to communicate directly with the lady, but shit, for the springs I'd settle for TOB and P411 references. I will also, be changing the way I screen specifically for these clients. Unfortunately, not all gents are members, and since they have not been taking new menbers, although they have been active, they rely on having to give refs personally. These ladies are NOT going to block other ladies from coming to the Springs. Trust me, I have a new mission to help these guys out. I will be their new reference, and I will help all the ladies out! I will also promote reference friendly providers, and I encourage ALL providers to make trips to the Springs to do the Same, so they dont have to worry about this behavior with the ladies who do this. Wrong on so many levels

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10 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

I like to communicate directly with the lady, but shit, for the springs I'd settle for TOB and P411 references. I will also, be changing the way I screen specifically for these clients. Unfortunately, not all gents are members, and since they have not been taking new menbers, although they have been active, they rely on having to give refs personally. These ladies are NOT going to block other ladies from coming to the Springs. Trust me, I have a new mission to help these guys out. I will be their new reference, and I will help all the ladies out! I will also promote reference friendly providers, and I encourage ALL providers to make trips to the Springs to do the Same, so they dont have to worry about this behavior with the ladies who do this. Wrong on so many levels

You can take the girl out of Texas, but you can't take Texas out of the girl. 

Watch out the Hunter is on a mission. 

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6 hours ago, Audrey Astor said:

Well, IDK.... There is a lot that goes on through back channeling. I don't mind sharing my experiences.

I have several guys that I have given many, many references for to other ladies. Yet, even after they should have these new ladies as references, I am continually used. I suppose the others are not answering. That is too bad. Ugh! 

I'm not sure that some guys will actually avoid the non-reference giving folks---- especially if they are getting what they deem is a "good/cheaper deal". 

Unfortunately we can only control ourselves. I'll be a good player. I will give references to ladies that don't give them to me, because the client ends up losing out, and I don't want to risk anyone's safety. It's just a crappy deal, but mehhhhh...

You're absolutley right Audrey. Its not fair to the client. I cant see denying a reference for a good client. :/

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14 hours ago, Bit Banger said:

Won’t work. Reviews can’t be posted more than 30days after the session. It was usually longer than that between sessions.

It could work if they are on here.... Request a reference through tob and if they don't accept it within the time frame, they don't get a review.... 

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47 minutes ago, Strange_Ice said:

It could work if they are on here.... Request a reference through tob and if they don't accept it within the time frame, they don't get a review.... 

That would work for TOB references, which are similar to P411 Okays.  Not what the ladies are talking about.  The ladies are complaining about providers not responding to reference check calls (text, email, etc.) when a client books a session, which may be more than 30 days since the client saw the referenced provider.

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2 hours ago, Bit Banger said:

That would work for TOB references, which are similar to P411 Okays.  Not what the ladies are talking about.  The ladies are complaining about providers not responding to reference check calls (text, email, etc.) when a client books a session, which may be more than 30 days since the client saw the referenced provider.

Thanks for clarifying that there are two different types of references being talked about in this thread.  Also, I would suggest that this problem is not specific to Colorado Springs, but is an issue throughtout the state and probably the industry as a whole.  

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18 minutes ago, Mustang87 said:

.  Also, I would suggest that this problem is not specific to Colorado Springs, but is an issue throughtout the state and probably the industry as a whole.  

You’re probably correct.

—EDIT—

I suspect this may have been one reason for the creation of P411.  At least it is one mechanism for addressing the issue.

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14 minutes ago, Mustang87 said:

Thanks for clarifying that there are two different types of references being talked about in this thread.  Also, I would suggest that this problem is not specific to Colorado Springs, but is an issue throughtout the state and probably the industry as a whole.  

You are correct it happens everywhere but it's on a whole different level in the Springs.  When 80% of the springs guys use the same references and those ladies will not return reference requests, and the guys are not on TOB or P411, then that really puts them in a pickle. Their options are limited, which is what these ladies are banking on. Moving around Colorado, I've never seen it like this, not even close.

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These ladies can do whatever they want. It's their choice whether they want to provide references or not. The truth is they are not providing references for many guys. I wasn't aware this is how things are done here in the Springs, and I made this post to bring awareness to how bad it is. I'm not going to sugar coat it, or act like this is normal everywhere, because it is not. 

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17 hours ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

I like to communicate directly with the lady, but shit, for the springs I'd settle for TOB and P411 references. I will also, be changing the way I screen specifically for these clients. Unfortunately, not all gents are members, and since they have not been taking new menbers, although they have been active, they rely on having to give refs personally. These ladies are NOT going to block other ladies from coming to the Springs. Trust me, I have a new mission to help these guys out. I will be their new reference, and I will help all the ladies out! I will also promote reference friendly providers, and I encourage ALL providers to make trips to the Springs to do the Same, so they dont have to worry about this behavior with the ladies who do this. Wrong on so many levels

At this point you are doing the exact opposite.  It is tough enough to get ladies to come down here as it is. 

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3 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

I disagree 

You're highlighting how bad it is for ladies who travel here. How will that make more ladies want to travel here? 

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I sure wish I could give a shout out to the ladies here in the Springs that have been so helpful, and the ladies who have been supportive in dealing with this situation. I can't list you by name, but thank you so much. You make this community the amazing community it is. 

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9 minutes ago, Mustang87 said:

You're highlighting how bad it is for ladies who travel here. How will that make more ladies want to travel here? 

Change doesnt happen simply because we sweep things under the rug, and act like it isn't happening. 

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This is happening everywhere and not just in Colorado.  This has become the new normal in many areas and we just need to get creative and not rely so heavily on references.  

 

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1 hour ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

You are correct it happens everywhere but it's on a whole different level in the Springs.  When 80% of the springs guys use the same references and those ladies will not return reference requests, and the guys are not on TOB or P411, then that really puts them in a pickle. Their options are limited, which is what these ladies are banking on. Moving around Colorado, I've never seen it like this, not even close.

Not being a member of either is THEIR choice and easily corrected in a matter of minutes!  But if they are not members of either and the ladies they are seeing won't do references ......... how did they get seen by the ladies they list as references???  Or did they?  If they are just throwing out names hoping that is good enough, it is no wonder the ladies won't spend time responding to reference requests for guys they have never seen.  That may not be the whole problem, but truthfully I have never ever had a problem giving or getting references from any of the ladies I have seen down here in the southern hinterlands.  I am not saying there is a problem - I can feel your frustration and I do sympathize and agree safety is a necessity for all.  However, I think part of the problem is the guys that calling you, not just the ladies.  Lastly, the way the thread title is worded and some of the comments make it sound as though it is all ladies in Springs, which based upon my experiences I must say "not so fast! Not all!!"  I would be interested in hearing how it is for the Springs ladies that head up to the Denver area.

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40 minutes ago, gr8owl said:

Not being a member of either is THEIR choice and easily corrected in a matter of minutes!  But if they are not members of either and the ladies they are seeing won't do references ......... how did they get seen by the ladies they list as references???  Or did they?  If they are just throwing out names hoping that is good enough, it is no wonder the ladies won't spend time responding to reference requests for guys they have never seen.  That may not be the whole problem, but truthfully I have never ever had a problem giving or getting references from any of the ladies I have seen down here in the southern hinterlands.  I am not saying there is a problem - I can feel your frustration and I do sympathize and agree safety is a necessity for all.  However, I think part of the problem is the guys that calling you, not just the ladies.  Lastly, the way the thread title is worded and some of the comments make it sound as though it is all ladies in Springs, which based upon my experiences I must say "not so fast! Not all!!"  I would be interested in hearing how it is for the Springs ladies that head up to the Denver area.

Before I came to TOB, I started out on BP, I didn't know anyone, or much really about what I was doing as I had been retired for 15 years. I didn't screen. It was the wild, wild west for sure. However I built up a good group of regulars that I give references to to this day. Just like someone was my first TOB review, I have been several first references for clients on this board. Some ladies screen with real world info, some ladies screen with references. Some clients are comfortable screening with RW info, some with references only. Some clients are comfortable joining and posting on escorts sites, some are not. I'm a provider comfortable screening with references, and not asking for clients RW info, and these guys seek out providers like myself. 

If you read my comments in my original post, and furthur down, I made sure to be supportive, and specifically address the ladiies in the Springs who are reference friendly, and show them my appreciation, because I know there are some really great supportive women here. It's just a group of girls that are prominent providers who are not.  Yes it's very frustrating when guys take the time to read ads, provide all the requirements requested, list their references, and do everything right, but still can't see a lady because their reference aren't willing to give them one. I have felt like leaving, but I'm going to stick it out and give those that want some variety another option. 

I would like to see the ladies in the Springs respond with their experience as well.

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I'm in COS and have no problems giving references, I just wish providers that ask for references wouldn't ghost me after me giving the reference. For example I will provide a reference for them and then its nothing but crickets. No, thank you, or thanks for the info, just nothing. Of course I do appreciate those who do respond back, it's the polite thing to do!

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46 minutes ago, Crystyna said:

I'm in COS and have no problems giving references, I just wish providers that ask for references wouldn't ghost me after me giving the reference. For example I will provide a reference for them and then its nothing but crickets. No, thank you, or thanks for the info, just nothing. Of course I do appreciate those who do respond back, it's the polite thing to do!

Some people don't understand manners.  Saying thank you is so easy.

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2 hours ago, Crystyna said:

I'm in COS and have no problems giving references, I just wish providers that ask for references wouldn't ghost me after me giving the reference. For example I will provide a reference for them and then its nothing but crickets. No, thank you, or thanks for the info, just nothing. Of course I do appreciate those who do respond back, it's the polite thing to do!

I agree Crystyna. Proper etiquette for reference requests, and showing your appreciation for ladies taking the time out of their day to provide them is very important to establishing a good reference sharing network. Thank you for being one of the awesome ladies in the Springs. Even before I came here. You've always been wondeful beautiful! 😘

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On 4/30/2019 at 10:47 AM, Stang03 said:

I was seeing a well reviewed lady on here and after a few visits to her I asked if she could give me a reference and her reaction was not what I expected! She all of a sudden had rules for her to give me a reference and only to certain ladies and so on! So I never went back to see her! But it got me to not even ask any lady anymore! 

I can't even imagine treating a gentleman in this fashion. It really let's you know they don't care about you at all as a person, and only see you as a dollar sign. If your dollars aren't going to her everytime (heaven forbid you like some variety), it's like hit the road jack. I was checking your reviews, and although you have a couple of the ladies who act this way, you have some solid reference friendly ladies as well. Glad you moved on. It's unfortunate when we can't have a dialogue between providers and clients regarding references. I feel like the whole point of play for pay is the professionalism we offer. Thanks for sharing your experience.  Just know not all ladies are like this. A lot of us know how to conduct ourselves in a professional manner, and you can talk to us about, well just about anything including seeing other ladies who might meet the wide variety of wants and needs you have. 💙

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On 5/1/2019 at 10:52 AM, Hunter VanDyke said:

I sure wish I could give a shout out to the ladies here in the Springs that have been so helpful, and the ladies who have been supportive in dealing with this situation. I can't list you by name, but thank you so much. You make this community the amazing community it is. 

Aww your so sweet and we are happy to have your support!

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There can be other issues involved!

A few years back I was trying to schedule with a YL, but we just couldn’t get our calendars to synch.  So I saw another sweet YL, wrote a review, and moved on. The following month I tried again to schedule with the first YL.  She blew up in my face; she felt threatened because I’d seen someone from a different clique.  Needless to say, I’ve never did see the first YL (nor have I seen her advertise for several years).  The second YL?  She remains a sweetheart to this day.

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1 hour ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

I can't even imagine treating a gentleman in this fashion. It really let's you know they don't care about you at all as a person, and only see you as a dollar sign. If your dollars aren't going to her everytime (heaven forbid you like some variety), it's like hit the road jack. I was checking your reviews, and although you have a couple of the ladies who act this way, you have some solid reference friendly ladies as well. Glad you moved on. It's unfortunate when we can't have a dialogue between providers and clients regarding references. I feel like the whole point of play for pay is the professionalism we offer. Thanks for sharing your experience.  Just know not all ladies are like this. A lot of us know how to conduct ourselves in a professional manner, and you can talk to us about, well just about anything including seeing other ladies who might meet the wide variety of wants and needs you have. 💙

Thanks! I know I’ve only been on tob for a few years, but the whole reason I joined tob was to get references and after my experience I’ve pretty much decided to stick to newbie friendly ladies or sometimes take my chances on other sites! I would eventually like to start to get references! 

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6 minutes ago, Bit Banger said:

There can be other issues involved!

A few years back I was trying to schedule with a YL, but we just couldn’t get our calendars to synch.  So I saw another sweet YL, wrote a review, and moved on. The following month I tried again to schedule with the first YL.  She blew up in my face; she felt threatened because I’d seen someone from a different clique.  Needless to say, I’ve never did see the first YL (nor have I seen her advertise for several years).  The second YL?  She remains a sweetheart to this day.

I don't know what it has to do with reference sharing, but that sounds like a crazy situation to me.  😂😂😂

I would have told her...until you put a ring on this finger, and stop fucking other guys honey, I'm a free bird. 😋

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7 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

I don't know what it has to do with reference sharing, but that sounds like a crazy situation to me.  😂😂😂

I would have told her...until you put a ring on this finger, and stop fucking other guys honey, I'm a free bird. 😋

Just that some gals may share references w/in their own little group of friends, but shut out others.  That some gals may feel threatened by reference requests.  That you’re prying into their business.

I’m not saying it’s right; just that other possibilities exist. 🥴

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