Calik8

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I've spoke to other providers when making decisions about Ideas on providing services, Screening and everything else.  On TOB I really want to hear from the hobby or’s point of view.  I asked so I can be a better provider. What are things that you would like to see in this hobby to have it be more enjoyable and  encourage you to be more active in the hobby.

 

Please keep this respectful!

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Since I haven't experienced anything real negative so far I have no complaints yet. Personally me being more active would require way more time and fun money on my end.

One improvement in my opinion is to be able to find answers to questions I despise having to ask. I thank every lady who makes it possible to find answers before I ever make contact. 

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It seems as it is possible there could be some fundamental changes happening here again, as it does seem like a few things have changed and it is possible that things could actually be returning to normal around here again....Just an observation which I have noticed coming about the last week and I think that I know what that is but really what do any of us truly know about those influences that occur in our lives, not much as I discovered recently....Honestly there is no reason to ask such questions when you come here like that, there is not one thing that can be put into words that make the hobby enjoyable to any one....It is a personal thing that can not be regulated or reproduced, it is very personal and it is only by realizing that will you ever understand what the hobby is about....Its personal and it is something that is different for every person....Just as no two people are the same, nor are the reasons that brings one back here the same either....Thats the one thing that I can say that I have learned being here as long as I have been and you will come to realize that in time....Not being rude or anything else but there are something that can only be discovered through experience and that is one of them....

And no offense dear you sound like a second grade teacher asking a question like that.....No offense intended but that is exactly what it sounds like....

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11 hours ago, Calik8 said:

I've spoke to other providers when making decisions about Ideas on providing services, Screening and everything else.  On TOB I really want to hear from the hobby or’s point of view.  I asked so I can be a better provider. What are things that you would like to see in this hobby to have it be more enjoyable and  encourage you to be more active in the hobby.

 

Please keep this respectful!

Great question @Calik8! Anytime hobbyists have an opportunity to express themselves, and what they would like to see from providers is a win. Some providers can adjust and cater to those needs, some providers know what they like, and willl better understand if that individual is a good fit with them or not... should the request come along. The more info I know about a client, the more open conversations we can have to figure out if we can meet each others needs. Thats what I love aboit p411. They answer specific questions, and can give a bio which describes them and what they are looking for. That gives me an opportunity to come back with I think we could be a good match, but you said this or this is very important to you, and that's just not my thing. I can communicate open and honestly, then they can decide how important the activity is too them. I find clients to be so appreciative for the honesty. Any time providers have an opportunity to give feedback on the forums about personal likes and dislikes, without promoting themselves, thats a win too, because clients will have a better understanding if she is a good fit for him, or maybe he should pass and find a different provider more compatible with his needs at the time. Posting their answers on the forum will help prevent some not so great sessions, with them losing their hard earned money, and help them have some amazing sessions with the ladies who are able and willing to give them the experiences they're seeking. Plus, I personally would much rather skip the the appt altogether than have an unsatisfying session for myself and my partner. That shit sucks. 

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Anal and facial are standard.

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The best thing you can do is just be yourself. The big points go to a provider that is welcoming and can break the ice opening things up with good communication and genuinely enjoying themselves when you see them. The more friendly and more I feel like I'm seeing someone real and genuine opposed to someone just treating it like a job and going through the motions of let's just get this over, the better

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2 hours ago, 2Big said:

Hit the gym and loose the cellulite.;)

Totally uncalled for, specially considering the good intent of the OP

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Calik8 this is a very TOUGH room!

Please don’t be offended by nasty negative replies from cold heartless assholes.

Your posts appear to be genuine. You seem to just want to know what others think.

Dont let others impact you in a sour way.

Remember this is a very TOUGH room!

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12 minutes ago, Seeker5280 said:

Calik8 this is a very TOUGH room!

Please don’t be offended by nasty negative replies from cold heartless assholes.

Your posts appear to be genuine. You seem to just want to know what others think.

Dont let others impact you in a sour way.

Remember this is a very TOUGH room!

Ummm, weren't you the guy that was super rude and told me not to share my comment which was very similar to what other providers were commenting on about our profession? Something like you didnt want to hear it, and I made you want to throw up??? Now, all of a sudden its a tough room, and don't let others impact you in a sour way? Make up your mind. Can we speak our minds or not speak our minds?

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1 hour ago, Strange_Ice said:

The best thing you can do is just be yourself. The big points go to a provider that is welcoming and can break the ice opening things up with good communication and genuinely enjoying themselves when you see them. The more friendly and more I feel like I'm seeing someone real and genuine opposed to someone just treating it like a job and going through the motions of let's just get this over, the better

Love the play on words “strange ice” that’s great! “Break the ice by being human”

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11 hours ago, Calik8 said:

 I've spoke to other providers when making decisions about Ideas on providing services, Screening and everything else.  On TOB I really want to hear from the hobby or’s point of view.  I asked so I can be a better provider. What are things that you would like to see in this hobby to have it be more enjoyable and  encourage you to be more active in the hobby.

 

Please keep this respectful!

 

A mini fridge stocked with beer and a fishing pond behind the incall. pencil me in for every Friday and Saturday evening.:D

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2 minutes ago, boink36 said:

A mini fridge stocked with beer and a fishing pond behind the incall. pencil me in for every Friday and Saturday evening.:D

Fridge stocked with beer - check

Fishing pond behind the incall - still working on it 😉

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As I've said before it would be great if all providers could afford a personal web a personal  site with some indication of services, maybe old fashioned reviews,  rates and a nice set of fairly recent pictures. Note the pics don't have to be changed annually, but not more than 5 years old.

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3 hours ago, Seeker5280 said:

Calik8 this is a very TOUGH room!

Please don’t be offended by nasty negative replies from cold heartless assholes.

Your posts appear to be genuine. You seem to just want to know what others think.

Dont let others impact you in a sour way.

Remember this is a very TOUGH room!

Thank you I always remember that when talking on tob that we all are a very opinionated group of people :)

57 minutes ago, boink36 said:

A mini fridge stocked with beer and a fishing pond behind the incall. pencil me in for every Friday and Saturday evening.:D

I like that idea!! Maybe stalked with local beer?

13 minutes ago, pointymoustache said:

As I've said before it would be great if all providers could afford a personal web a personal  site with some indication of services, maybe old fashioned reviews,  rates and a nice set of fairly recent pictures. Note the pics don't have to be changed annually, but not more than 5 years old.

I agree there are lots of places to make a free site I hope others will take advantage of it!

as for pictures are we speaking pro or dose it matter?

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4 hours ago, Strange_Ice said:

The best thing you can do is just be yourself. The big points go to a provider that is welcoming and can break the ice opening things up with good communication and genuinely enjoying themselves when you see them. The more friendly and more I feel like I'm seeing someone real and genuine opposed to someone just treating it like a job and going through the motions of let's just get this over, the better

That’s a great point a view and I very much agreed. Getting to know one and other can be so refreshing rather then treating as just a business transaction:-)

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2 hours ago, boink36 said:

A mini fridge stocked with beer and a fishing pond behind the incall. pencil me in for every Friday and Saturday evening.:D

Almost perfect!  But what's with the "mini" part? B)

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4 minutes ago, Bora Bora said:

Great thread! thanks for asking us. Here are 10 ideas, that might not be shared by other guys, but are important to me.

1. Have a clean and beautiful space: including clean sheets and clean bathroom. Sometimes I've wondered how many guys have had fun on the same sheets. Or I've been gross out by mold in the shower, hairs and pee on the toilet borders or an overflowing trash can full used condoms and stained toilet paper. Nice decoration and order (no dirty clothes on the corner).

2. Be respectful with the time: I'm very punctual for everything. And a 1 hour meeting is exactly 1 hour. Say, from 4pm to 5pm. Sometimes ladies give a reference point or an address and say: "call me when you get here and I'll give you my full address". So you call at 4 and then it takes you 5 to 8 minutes to find the actual address, building number and apartment. Some condos are really complicated to navigate. So... it's already almost 10 minutes into your time (4:10pm). But the session ends at 5pm, exactly... not good. If your condo is difficult to find, tell him to call 3 or 4 minutes before the hour.

3. Wash your hands after counting the money. Bills are not clean! Also, if it's an outcall, wash your hands before playing.

4. Have a nice text in your ads, not just a porn-style single line.

5. Reply to thank you texts/emails. I always send a thank you text after the meeting, it's nice to get a "thank you too!" text. It's not that they didn't like me, we might have met several times.

6. Don't eat Chinese or an extra onion hamburger before appointments... obvious reasons.

7. Say thanks if you receive a present and mean it. More than once I've given nice chocolates or something and they ended up on some corner and as if they never existed.

8. Don't be rude when telling about your rules. This is more frequently during FBSM, the way some ladies give you the list of Dont's can be a turn off.

9. Open the door immediately. By the time the client is at the door, you already know he is coming. So why keep him waiting outside? It's really awkward to wait outside for a couple of minutes.

10. Ask what he wants and/or how. Especially once you are comfortable he is not LE, or on second meetings. Some people are shy and are not that good in communicating their desires. A little help makes a much better session!! Which at the end is what everybody wants. It's not a personality competition, but trying to make it easier for him and for her.

 

Thank you that’s awesome feed back!! 

The washing of hand is definitely important one to remember. 

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10 minutes ago, Bora Bora said:

Great thread! thanks for asking us. Here are 10 ideas, that might not be shared by other guys, but are important to me.

1. Have a clean and beautiful space: including clean sheets and clean bathroom. Sometimes I've wondered how many guys have had fun on the same sheets. Or I've been gross out by mold in the shower, hairs and pee on the toilet borders or an overflowing trash can full used condoms and stained toilet paper. Nice decoration and order (no dirty clothes on the corner).

2. Be respectful with the time: I'm very punctual for everything. And a 1 hour meeting is exactly 1 hour. Say, from 4pm to 5pm. Sometimes ladies give a reference point or an address and say: "call me when you get here and I'll give you my full address". So you call at 4 and then it takes you 5 to 8 minutes to find the actual address, building number and apartment. Some condos are really complicated to navigate. So... it's already almost 10 minutes into your time (4:10pm). But the session ends at 5pm, exactly... not good. If your condo is difficult to find, tell him to call 3 or 4 minutes before the hour.

3. Wash your hands after counting the money. Bills are not clean! Also, if it's an outcall, wash your hands before playing.

4. Have a nice text in your ads, not just a porn-style single line.

5. Reply to thank you texts/emails. I always send a thank you text after the meeting, it's nice to get a "thank you too!" text. It's not that they didn't like me, we might have met several times.

6. Don't eat Chinese or an extra onion hamburger before appointments... obvious reasons.

7. Say thanks if you receive a present and mean it. More than once I've given nice chocolates or something and they ended up on some corner and as if they never existed.

8. Don't be rude when telling about your rules. This is more frequently during FBSM, the way some ladies give you the list of Dont's can be a turn off.

9. Open the door immediately. By the time the client is at the door, you already know he is coming. So why keep him waiting outside? It's really awkward to wait outside for a couple of minutes.

10. Ask what he wants and/or how. Especially once you are comfortable he is not LE, or on second meetings. Some people are shy and are not that good in communicating their desires. A little help makes a much better session!! Which at the end is what everybody wants. It's not a personality competition, but trying to make it easier for him and for her.

 

This a great example of giving thoughtful feedback, and sharing your honest opinions without being offensive. I love your response and found it helpful.  Thanks Bora Bora. Not surprised at all this post came from you. 🤗💋

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29 minutes ago, Bora Bora said:

Great thread! thanks for asking us. Here are 10 ideas, that might not be shared by other guys, but are important to me.

1. Have a clean and beautiful space: including clean sheets and clean bathroom. Sometimes I've wondered how many guys have had fun on the same sheets. Or I've been gross out by mold in the shower, hairs and pee on the toilet borders or an overflowing trash can full used condoms and stained toilet paper. Nice decoration and order (no dirty clothes on the corner).

2. Be respectful with the time: I'm very punctual for everything. And a 1 hour meeting is exactly 1 hour. Say, from 4pm to 5pm. Sometimes ladies give a reference point or an address and say: "call me when you get here and I'll give you my full address". So you call at 4 and then it takes you 5 to 8 minutes to find the actual address, building number and apartment. Some condos are really complicated to navigate. So... it's already almost 10 minutes into your time (4:10pm). But the session ends at 5pm, exactly... not good. If your condo is difficult to find, tell him to call 3 or 4 minutes before the hour.

3. Wash your hands after counting the money. Bills are not clean! Also, if it's an outcall, wash your hands before playing.

4. Have a nice text in your ads, not just a porn-style single line.

5. Reply to thank you texts/emails. I always send a thank you text after the meeting, it's nice to get a "thank you too!" text. It's not that they didn't like me, we might have met several times.

6. Don't eat Chinese or an extra onion hamburger before appointments... obvious reasons.

7. Say thanks if you receive a present and mean it. More than once I've given nice chocolates or something and they ended up on some corner and as if they never existed.

8. Don't be rude when telling about your rules. This is more frequently during FBSM, the way some ladies give you the list of Dont's can be a turn off.

9. Open the door immediately. By the time the client is at the door, you already know he is coming. So why keep him waiting outside? It's really awkward to wait outside for a couple of minutes.

10. Ask what he wants and/or how. Especially once you are comfortable he is not LE, or on second meetings. Some people are shy and are not that good in communicating their desires. A little help makes a much better session!! Which at the end is what everybody wants. It's not a personality competition, but trying to make it easier for him and for her.

 

For sure 1 thru 5 plus 9 and 10. Well done, sir.

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Good communication.  I don't know how many times I have sent a girl a message and only heard crickets. I don't want to repeat with another too fast. That makes you look bad.  A simple thanks but I am booked up. References won't respond. On vacation. Sick, Etc.   If you are super busy, send it a couple days later. At least I know you got the message and why things didn't work out. This hobby is only fun,  if you can set up an appointment.

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Great question.  This is a business and if you want to be successful, just like any business you need to seak out feedback from you customers and prospective customers. So kudos to you for trying to improve. 

I can't add much to what has already been said, but I will say, be friendly,  always smile, keep an immaculate incall, be reasonably responsive to texts or calls, and learn the art of making a business transaction feel like meeting a long lost lover. 

But most importantly love what you do, have fun and let it show with every appointment. 

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I think it's great you are asking but my understanding of the rules of this site, you have to be careful stating what it is you are looking for.  I already mentioned an idea last week that I got blasted for because a few people were not paying attention to what I was describing.  I think you just have to promote yourself as someone who is at least open to discussing different scenarios, doesn't mean you have to agree to them though. 

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10 hours ago, Alex Majors said:

Good communication.  I don't know how many times I have sent a girl a message and only heard crickets. I don't want to repeat with another too fast. That makes you look bad.  A simple thanks but I am booked up. References won't respond. On vacation. Sick, Etc.   If you are super busy, send it a couple days later. At least I know you got the message and why things didn't work out. This hobby is only fun,  if you can set up an appointment.

 Thank you for your feedback. I know I even am bad at this at times. we all get busy and forget now days that to communication is key.   

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12 hours ago, Bora Bora said:

Great thread! thanks for asking us. Here are 10 ideas, that might not be shared by other guys, but are important to me.

1. Have a clean and beautiful space: including clean sheets and clean bathroom. Sometimes I've wondered how many guys have had fun on the same sheets. Or I've been gross out by mold in the shower, hairs and pee on the toilet borders or an overflowing trash can full used condoms and stained toilet paper. Nice decoration and order (no dirty clothes on the corner).

2. Be respectful with the time: I'm very punctual for everything. And a 1 hour meeting is exactly 1 hour. Say, from 4pm to 5pm. Sometimes ladies give a reference point or an address and say: "call me when you get here and I'll give you my full address". So you call at 4 and then it takes you 5 to 8 minutes to find the actual address, building number and apartment. Some condos are really complicated to navigate. So... it's already almost 10 minutes into your time (4:10pm). But the session ends at 5pm, exactly... not good. If your condo is difficult to find, tell him to call 3 or 4 minutes before the hour.

3. Wash your hands after counting the money. Bills are not clean! Also, if it's an outcall, wash your hands before playing.

4. Have a nice text in your ads, not just a porn-style single line.

5. Reply to thank you texts/emails. I always send a thank you text after the meeting, it's nice to get a "thank you too!" text. It's not that they didn't like me, we might have met several times.

6. Don't eat Chinese or an extra onion hamburger before appointments... obvious reasons.

7. Say thanks if you receive a present and mean it. More than once I've given nice chocolates or something and they ended up on some corner and as if they never existed.

8. Don't be rude when telling about your rules. This is more frequently during FBSM, the way some ladies give you the list of Dont's can be a turn off.

9. Open the door immediately. By the time the client is at the door, you already know he is coming. So why keep him waiting outside? It's really awkward to wait outside for a couple of minutes.

10. Ask what he wants and/or how. Especially once you are comfortable he is not LE, or on second meetings. Some people are shy and are not that good in communicating their desires. A little help makes a much better session!! Which at the end is what everybody wants. It's not a personality competition, but trying to make it easier for him and for her.

 

Fantastic post that hits some important specific points and covers the spirit of what makes meeting someone so much fun.  Thanks. 

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I am truly amazed at just how long the common butt fungus cab survive and even thrive in places like this.  For myself, I am amazed at the job the ladies here (and other sites) actually do.  It can be very dangerous.  Should I view a set of pics that indicate I would not enjoy time with a lady, I simply move on.  WHY criticize?  I don't know about the other guys here, but I lost the Adonis look alike contest a long time ago.  Are there things I would like to see change, sure, but there in not likely to be a "freebie" page in this hobby anytime soon.  I would like to see the divisive, unkind statements disappear on a voluntary basis.

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good post OP - 411 flowing like this can always help...

1. if it ain't safe, it ain't fun - make dating decisions on how we like minded daters can get together safely! 

2. represent yourself accurately and honestly - with posts, pics, content - so the person behind the door is not a mystery - and there is little to nothing left to wonder about who it is and what they like to do on a date and how much their time is worth to them etc.

3. enjoy yourself - no one needs to feel put out by getting together

4. time - like BB said, 1 hour is 60 minutes, not 41.  and it is 'our' time, not check the phone time, or a quick text or 2.  what we all do on our own time is our own business but when we are just the two of us on a date let's keep it that way.

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3 hours ago, mustang said:

I would like to see the divisive, unkind statements disappear on a voluntary basis.

Or on a not-voluntary basis as well, just kick them out.

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36 minutes ago, Bora Bora said:

Or on a not-voluntary basis as well, just kick them out.

While I realize that the 1st Amendment only applies to government bodies, not to private platforms like TOB, it needs to be said that Free Speech is a wonderful thing.  It allows us to say what’s on our minds even though some may be offended. But it also allows us hear the opinions of others even when we are offended by what they have to say.

Yes, I strongly prefer civil discourse, without name calling and insults.  I haven’t met a position yet that can’t be expressed w/o denigrating opposing factions.  But I would rather be insulted & offended, biting my own tongue, than face direct censorship.  Be careful what you ask for because your words will likely offend someone else.  Then they will demand that you be silenced and removed from society.

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