My Breif Forray into the Civilian World

[Laci French]

Thi thread is inspiring and hilarious.  Please keep us posted on how things continue.

 

[sb1212]

10 hours ago, Robert Johnson said:

Well, the lunch went well.  She found my list charming. However, the night before, this woman admitted to me that she was  "batshit crazy" (her own words).  I just can't seem to get a break here! LOL. 

You and I clearly run in different circles.   I can not envision any  civilian connection I have ever had where of the early topics was feminine grooming. More power to you!  Regarding "bat shit crazy",  I hope the ride is worth the risk.....

[Robert Johnson]

19 minutes ago, sb1212 said:

You and I clearly run in different circles.   I can not envision any  civilian connection I have ever had where of the early topics was feminine grooming. More power to you!  Regarding "bat shit crazy",  I hope the ride is worth the risk.....

Yeah, she tried to tell me that a "heart shape" is a category into itself.  I suggested that the heart might just fall under "landing strip."   Because with a landing strip, you can make it into any shape you like, even a rhinoceros. 

Also, as I passed her the list over brunch she blushed & asked, "Did you go online, to find all this out?? 

"Uhmm, no... I have lots of direct experience."  😉

 

[K2dnvrfun]

2 hours ago, sb1212 said:

You and I clearly run in different circles.   I can not envision any  civilian connection I have ever had where of the early topics was feminine grooming. More power to you!  Regarding "bat shit crazy",  I hope the ride is worth the risk.....

I'm with you man. This is so far out of the realm of my real world experiences. Good for you Robert

[Robert Johnson]

Thank you, K2.  She's at work & I get a message, "What time do you have band practice tonight?"

It was cancelled.   And then the weather eventually cleared.  However, it is staying cancelled because the roads will be icy tonight.

 "Did you mean 'Mo' practice or 'No' practice?" she asked. 

Told her that if she's making fun of my bad typing, I gonna have to spank her.  She asked me to meet her at a bar near her house after she gets off work at 11:00 tonight - not because of my comment but because this was her original intent, for us to meet prior to Saturday when she will accompany me to see my classic rock band perform in Loveland.  This establishment in Aurora is where she came to catch the last set of my R&B band on the night we met. 

Breif convo about... that if I am into spanking her, then I must be her dom and she, my "good girl."

"Well, I'm not a total freak about that stuff.  ...or am I?"

She replied, "My safe word is 'F*ck you'."

Should get interesting. 

 

 

[Laci French]

This is getting interesting.  Thanks for taking us on this adventure with you. 

[K2dnvrfun]

Agreed, keep us posted.

[BadBoy]

Would you mind asking if she has a sister?

[K2dnvrfun]

4 minutes ago, BadBoy said:

Would you mind asking if she has a sister?

Or two?

[average1]

I have to keep up on the progress of this thread.  RJ, you seem to be going strong and the lady seems interesting.  Also, I hope both the gig and the date in Loveland go well.  Music speaks a language that touches us in ways that can be wonderful.

[Robert Johnson]

Firstly, thanks to all for your interest in this thread.

The lady met me at the bar last night after her shift, we had a drink & listened to karaoke, struggling to hold a conversation over the noise.

Unexpectedly, just as I started to suggest that I drape my jacket over her & walk her to her car, she invited me to follow her home in my car!  I did so, swallowing two 50mg tabs of Viagra on the way.

Fast forward to the bedroom for some awkward but pleasant UTF, DFK, BBFS.  Unfortunately I was unable to climax but she clutched her brass headboard for the brief time that I pounded her.  I was able to satisfy her manually and after extended snuggling, kissing & talking we both fell asleep.

Middle of the night, we both wake up and I ask,  Do you wanna try again?"

"Sure."

This time, she mounted me.  Again briefly.  I suggested doggie but as soon as my lady assumed the position, Little Boss fell back asleep.  Switching to DATY, I did not stay there long, only because she had freshness concerns, though I was fine.  Sensing her distress, I backed away, staying near, while she pleasured herself manually while I did the same, offering encouragement.  Back to sleep after more late night pillow talk.

The sun came up revealing her beautiful, lightly freckled fair skin.  We massaged, caressed and snuggled until it felt like the right time to get dressed.  We let her small dogs out, conversed for another 45 minutes or so, then said our goodbyes.

About the Loveland performance Saturday - she is unfortunately being considered to be on call due to a short staff situation at her work.  She will know within 24 hours whether she will need to stay close to home.  If she has to bail on this Saturday, we will meet again the following evening (Sunday) instead.

Also, a week from Saturday she stated that she would like to attend my Country/Western band's show at a small craft brewery in Golden, as she will not be on call.

I guess things are going as well as they can, considering my disappointing sexual performance.  🙄  

[BadBoy]

Dude, do like the girls do: learn to fake an orgasm

Back when I was eating the Blue Steel I did note that one of the side effects was creating an occasional difficulty in coming.  Usually a good thing, not always, so I just learned to arch my back, make a face and fake it like a Trump.

Thanks for the updates, damn, it's getting like reading the Penthouse Forum around here (this is a good thing).

BTW, did you ask her about a sister?

Edited January 25, 2019 by BadBoy

[K2dnvrfun]

Wow thanks for the play by play. Sounds like a great time and quite crazy for rw hookup. Good on you.

Like BB said make a face and fake it. Keep her pleasured and you'll be fine.

Keep us posted, hope it works out swimmingly for ya.

[AsianLover]

On 1/23/2019 at 11:22 PM, Robert Johnson said:

THIS >> She found my list charming.

 SHOULD HAVE TOLD YOU THIS >> this woman admitted to me that she was  "batshit crazy"

Just sayin'

 

51 minutes ago, AsianLover said:

Just sayin'

Btw, that was intended as a joke. I forgot to add the laughing emojis. Then discovered I couldn't edit or delete the post.

[Robert Johnson]

Thanks everyone and no worries, A.L.

The comment about a safe word turned out to be tongue in cheek.  Turns out my new lady will he coming to Loveland with me after all.

People say things.  LOL

-RJ 

 

[pfunk]

It's probably just me, but I can't imagine posting a play by play of a civilian encounter (like this) on this escort board. Seems like it should be kept between the two parties involved.. Does the the lady know that you're publicizing this? 

[ilovewomen]

25 minutes ago, pfunk said:

It's probably just me, but I can't imagine posting a play by play of a civilian encounter (like this) on this escort board. Seems like it should be kept between the two parties involved.. Does the the lady know that you're publicizing this? 

I’d bet she doesn’t know.

[K2dnvrfun]

28 minutes ago, pfunk said:

It's probably just me, but I can't imagine posting a play by play of a civilian encounter (like this) on this escort board. Seems like it should be kept between the two parties involved.. Does the the lady know that you're publicizing this? 

As much as I enjoyed the play by play, the same thought did cross my mind.

[Robert Johnson]

Ironic.  Do you married gents (and many of you are...) reveal to your wives & families & employers that you are members of an escort board?

Have I mentioned anyone by name?  No??  Then WTF is the problem?? 

[BadBoy]

9 hours ago, Robert Johnson said:

Ironic.  Do you married gents (and many of you are...) reveal to your wives & families & employers that you are members of an escort board?

Have I mentioned anyone by name?  No??  Then WTF is the problem?? 

No problem, just be sure to ask about her younger sister 😉

[Robert Johnson]

13 minutes ago, BadBoy said:

No problem, just be sure to ask about her younger sister 😉

BB, the younger sister lives in Oklahoma.  I hope I did not put this younger sister in jeopardy by just outing her on the internet.  Throwing her personal information on an escort board like that. 

[Happymon]

24 minutes ago, BadBoy said:

No problem, just be sure to ask about her younger sister 😉

Her much younger sister.  

[boink36]

10 hours ago, Robert Johnson said:

Ironic.  Do you married gents (and many of you are...) reveal to your wives & families & employers that you are members of an escort board?

Have I mentioned anyone by name?  No??  Then WTF is the problem?? 

I wouldn't worry about it much someones white steed never spends much time in the corral. there is always a wrong to be righted or someone using chunky peanut butter that needs chastising. it's odd for a person who claims to be 100% "Live and let live" but as you can clearly see the "Let live" part is only if you live EXACTLY as he deems appropriate. 

[Robert Johnson]

Okay, so maybe my Forray isn't going to be as brief as I initially thought.  If I return to the hobby (for anything outside of providing my lady with her first lesbian experience) I will return a broken man.

I am amazed that this woman seems to want me at her place every night so far for the past couple of weeks - well, mostly during this 2nd week. 

 

Last night I came over after music practice.  She gets home from work a little after 11:30 PM.  She has this bathtub with jets that fits 2 people.  She filled it for us & set out lit, fragranced candles.  

 

She started stroking my meat in the tub, then I sat up on the edge & she gave me a very long blowjob.  I couldn't cum.  But I stood up, made her lick my balls as I jacked my meat, maybe hoping to squirt in her face or her mouth.   It was quite a sight how she was making every effort to please me.  There was only a slight sensation from accidental dental contact, but considering this is from a non pro, it was spectacular.  

 

Eventually I said, "can we finish where we left off another time?"  

 

"Sure".

 

Got into bed together in a different bedroom than the previous week.  This is the master bedroom that is joined to the hot rub.  She was angry at her 28 year-old son for earlier using most of the hot water, leaving us with a lukewarm bath.  She would like him gone by next semester.  

 

She said, "Well, it's probably a good thing that we can't get this tub hot enough since men who have erectional problems tend not do well in super hot water."  She knows.  She is an RN. 

 

We were both a little cold after this long display of affection.  Once in the bed, I got beneath the blankets and ate her pussy until she came.  Snuggled and caressed until we went to sleep.  But in the in between dream state, there was lots of caressing and kissing.  

 

Took her to breakfast this morning.  But  before that, I asked, "So, when were you thinking we could get together again?"

 

 She goes,  "I was thinking tonight..."  She looked at me and realized that I was simply trying to touch base rather than just show up automatically without an invite.  I will be there.

 

Damn, she must like me to WANT to have me over there this often!  I love it.  The night before she had a tummy ache and made it clear we would only be snuggling.  That night, she said, "This is what heaven must feel like," referring to my caressing & rubbing her everywhere (I think).

 

She had told me that she might borrow a cowboy hat for my country gig this Saturday.  A work friend loaned her an expensive blue suede, fringed southwestern jacket, elaborate cowboy boots and a black hat.  She's going all out to look killer for my gig.

 

Another thing... I stammered something like, "You know, I'm trying to figure out here... uhm... how I... we... could make it so that we could move this toward being a committed relationship..."

 

She laughed, "You don't need to figure out how to turn this into a committed relationship when we spend all our time together!"  Good point.

 

This thing between us had better last because if not, then it will destroy me.

 

She also indicated last week that she would be devastated if some some reason I dropped out of her life.  She also said that she is not as good (as I am) at expressing herself in this situation.

 

I think she enjoys & appreciates when I tell her how much she means to me and prefers me to be the one verbalizing it.  She demonstrates her side of it with her actions.  Good match, I think.

 

[K2dnvrfun]

Congrats man. Sounds like you hit the jackpot and are super happy. I hope it works out for the long run for you. 

Finding a lady you connect with on multiple levels and who also is uber sexual is a dream.

Keep us posted and best of luck.

[bd5671]

On 1/8/2019 at 1:48 PM, Robert Johnson said:

First, let state how deeply grateful I am for this hobby, for the exceptional ladies who define the finest levels of companionship, for the review process and the community.  For the intelligent, interesting, compassionate ladies who love what they do.  O' the misery from which we gents are spared thanks to this hidden oasis of pleasure.

Having dabbled on one of those dating sites with some intermittent successes, my activity these past couple months have been a tad more concentrated than usual, only because there have been some promising nibbles (so to speak) which failed to pan out.  One thing that I often wonder is, do I unconsciously project a certain aloofness to the civilian dating populace from my inadequately concealed confidence?  Maybe I unknowingly & unintentionally project the impression that vastly exquisite pleasures can still be mine (as long as I remain courteous, do my research, follow the rules, etc...), thus branding myself within that other group of companionship seekers?   I don't know.  There have been a handful of success stories over the years for me, a few ladies with whom I have remained friends to this day.

Anyway, the following situations have presented themselves in my most recent extracurricular experimentation:

1. Decent looking lady, cool tatts on her titties quickly throws me her number and we are off and texting, getting acquainted.  She understandably wishes to "take her time" prior to getting intimate, even hints that "maybe" more pics might be available on request. Too soon for me to ask.  In regard to meeting, I respond that I am patient... without revealing exactly WHY I can be patient.  There appeared to be some promising potential here.  The following day, I receive some curt messages in a mildly accusatory tone, I gathered, because my dating profile showed a green light indicating that I had been online after she had already provided her number to me.  After pointing out that she herself had to have also been on the site in order to see my online status, I added that she was now beginning to come across to me as "insecure, manipulative and frankly, just a little bit off."  That ended that.

2. Second mature lady from Greely: "Denver is just too far for a relationship, sorry.  Best of luck in your search."  Biting my tongue (or fingers) I refrained from responding that a mere 60 minute drive - mine, not hers - shouldn't be an impediment to dating.  When I was 23,  my girlfriend attended UNC and every weekend we were up there screwing like rabbits in her dorm.

3. The most recent exchange, perhaps the most universal example is this one:  After some nice messaging back and forth over several days:  "So, what are you looking for?  I am tired of guys who just want to be fwb.  I am really ready for a relationship..."  Did not hear back after giving my opinion:  that a deep and lasting relationship is a divine gift.  Sometimes it is not in the cards for everyone.  And (in my opinion) it is placing the cart before the horse for one to have a plan for a serious relationship without yet having met the other person; that only face to face meetings can reveal its potential.  Not a popular response.  Sorry.

4. Most typical is the ghosting phenomenon.  Not the paranormal kind.  This is where things are progressing well and then all communication ends suddenly.  I will not send another message in this situation.  No big deal.  Why? 

Because pleasure, regardless, awaits me.

Thank you...  ❤❤❤  and thank you. 

-RJ 

Dating after the millenium is frought with danger, deceit and disappiontment. If you aren't prepared for angry women, broken women, crazy women, desperate women, women who set the bar too high, women who have have false expectations, will use you, schmooze you, abuse you, hump you and dump you, or disappear faster than Houdini, don't jump in the dating pool. You have been warned!

The only good thing about being single or divorced, is you spend half as much money when you go out to eat, to the movies, to a show, on vacation, etc...

[Robert Johnson]

1 hour ago, bd5671 said:

Dating after the millenium is frought with danger, deceit and disappiontment. If you aren't prepared for angry women, broken women, crazy women, desperate women, women who set the bar too high, women who have have false expectations, will use you, schmooze you, abuse you, hump you and dump you, or disappear faster than Houdini, don't jump in the dating pool. You have been warned!

The only good thing about being single or divorced, is you spend half as much money when you go out to eat, to the movies, to a show, on vacation, etc...

Thank you, bd5671.

The initial rush of any relationship can be intoxicating.  You are correct about the many, varied outcomes.  Perhaps it is best to ride the wave while staying on the lookout for glaring red flags.  Some may laugh at that last statement but it is just a matter of perspective & past experiences.

All I know right now is that life is sweet.  Sure, the anticipation and longing (on both sides) can be rather tense.  One can only pray for divine guidance in these things. 

-RJ 

[Robert Johnson]

Hello everyone,

To follow up on this old, OLD thread, I was engaged and now I am single again.  This is to the woman I met on the dating site described herein. 

As long time E.D. sufferer, once my relationship with this widow achieved momentum in mid January, I subscribed to a clinic that offered Injectable meds (as the blue pill has long become ineffective) along with some other treatments.  I have been able to limp along with penile injections, pleasuring my lady thru some occasional intercourse, DATY and a high quality wand that I purchased for her.  She offered to give back my wand, but I did give it to her as a gift, and refused it.  I just want my amp and electronics bags.  Damn, I gotta go back today, then she will never see my face again. 

She was all about, "Sex is only a small part of a relationship..." and "I still get off... but it would be better if you could get off, too..."  She had even set a date for a justice of the peace and wanted us to honeymoon in Moab in September.  She had even bought two white outfits to to choose one to wear for the occasion - our wedding civil ceremony.  She was widowed 3 years ago and shows signs of not being quite over it (understandably I suppose).  She wanted me to fix up her back yard and I was anticipating a summer or hard labor for the sake of love, possibly my final love relationship.  I am 62 and she turns 62 next month.  Told her that I am too old for this break up drama and craziness.  She strung me along and it took a three month chunk of my life, most of it pleasant if not realistic.

Fact is, I have been unable to climax and I guess it finally wore out her patience.  Of course, any time a woman becomes disenchanted with a man, she might become critical, citing old information or behaviors, misinterpreting all, in order to exasperate the guy and put the vibe across that "we are done."  It happened so gradually and stealthily, it truly took me by surprise.

From RECENT sweet texts saying that there is nothing she doesn't love about me, my passion for my music (I am just a cover guitarist), my responsibility to family (aging parents) blah, blah, blah, to criticizing everything about me and even exaggerating some innocent stuff that should not even apply to the equation! 

Long story short, I grabbed my meds ( which require refrigeration) a few articles of clothing, toothbrush, etc. stormed out... but in the heat of the moment, forgot some musical equipment there.  My car broke down Easter Sunday and I borrowed my father's car (he no longer drives) and she suggested I place my equipment on a spare room.

And now I need to return to get my amplifier and two bags of electronics.  Sad but true.  Concert tickets, theater tickets, our future plans all laid to waste.  There is no chance for reconciliation as I cited her dishonesty and called her a shit bag among other things. 

Back to reality...   Are there any kind providers here who can accommodate an attractive, nice man with serious E.D.?  Please IM me or reply here - I am lonely and not affluent.

I am back in the hobby, albeit with a fixed income plus meager musician's pay.  And great DATY skills which cannot be denied.  : )

-RJ

[Robert Johnson]

On 2/2/2019 at 10:36 AM, bd5671 said:

Dating after the millenium is frought with danger, deceit and disappiontment. If you aren't prepared for angry women, broken women, crazy women, desperate women, women who set the bar too high, women who have have false expectations, will use you, schmooze you, abuse you, hump you and dump you, or disappear faster than Houdini, don't jump in the dating pool. You have been warned!

The only good thing about being single or divorced, is you spend half as much money when you go out to eat, to the movies, to a show, on vacation, etc...

I'm sorry, but this post from bd5671 from a couple months ago contains a great amount of truth.  After what I just went through, everything he says holds true to the letter!  Thanks again!

[Admiral C]

4 hours ago, Robert Johnson said:

Hello everyone,

To follow up on this old, OLD thread, I was engaged and now I am single again.  This is to the woman I met on the dating site described herein. 

As long time E.D. sufferer, once my relationship with this widow achieved momentum in mid January, I subscribed to a clinic that offered Injectable meds (as the blue pill has long become ineffective) along with some other treatments.  I have been able to limp along with penile injections, pleasuring my lady thru some occasional intercourse, DATY and a high quality wand that I purchased for her.  She offered to give back my wand, but I did give it to her as a gift, and refused it.  I just want my amp and electronics bags.  Damn, I gotta go back today, then she will never see my face again. 

She was all about, "Sex is only a small part of a relationship..." and "I still get off... but it would be better if you could get off, too..."  She had even set a date for a justice of the peace and wanted us to honeymoon in Moab in September.  She had even bought two white outfits to to choose one to wear for the occasion - our wedding civil ceremony.  She was widowed 3 years ago and shows signs of not being quite over it (understandably I suppose).  She wanted me to fix up her back yard and I was anticipating a summer or hard labor for the sake of love, possibly my final love relationship.  I am 62 and she turns 62 next month.  Told her that I am too old for this break up drama and craziness.  She strung me along and it took a three month chunk of my life, most of it pleasant if not realistic.

Fact is, I have been unable to climax and I guess it finally wore out her patience.  Of course, any time a woman becomes disenchanted with a man, she might become critical, citing old information or behaviors, misinterpreting all, in order to exasperate the guy and put the vibe across that "we are done."  It happened so gradually and stealthily, it truly took me by surprise.

From RECENT sweet texts saying that there is nothing she doesn't love about me, my passion for my music (I am just a cover guitarist), my responsibility to family (aging parents) blah, blah, blah, to criticizing everything about me and even exaggerating some innocent stuff that should not even apply to the equation! 

Long story short, I grabbed my meds ( which require refrigeration) a few articles of clothing, toothbrush, etc. stormed out... but in the heat of the moment, forgot some musical equipment there.  My car broke down Easter Sunday and I borrowed my father's car (he no longer drives) and she suggested I place my equipment on a spare room.

And now I need to return to get my amplifier and two bags of electronics.  Sad but true.  Concert tickets, theater tickets, our future plans all laid to waste.  There is no chance for reconciliation as I cited her dishonesty and called her a shit bag among other things. 

Back to reality...   Are there any kind providers here who can accommodate an attractive, nice man with serious E.D.?  Please IM me or reply here - I am lonely and not affluent.

I am back in the hobby, albeit with a fixed income plus meager musician's pay.  And great DATY skills which cannot be denied.  : )

-RJ

The odds were, and always are, overwhelmingly that something like that will happen. There are just an endless number of things that can happen when two people meet and any one of them can, and usually does, blow it out of the water.  The main problem however is one of unrealistic expectation. Read this closely. Because we are mortal, all of our perceptions of time are linear. Humans evaluate things in terms of "start and finish" and "goal and outcome". THAT is the unrealistic expectation. Time is NOT linear and life is CHANGE....direct opposites of our evaluations. Even the perfect, soulmate, timeless, never one cross word, forever, impossible dream relationship...is an unrealistic expectation. Why? Because one of you will eventually die and there goes "forever" ( at least for awhile!). Time is not linear, life is change, and EVERYTHING is about the time spent...the journey. You shared a wonderful march of time spent with her...and then it ended...changed. Thats all. It ended, and changed. It changed because it was life. The hurt, anger, upset, etc...that's on YOU because of the unrealistic expectations. You meet someone and you will share an unspecified amount of time together, and then it will change in some fashion. THAT is the soul, correct expectation and allows room only for joy and joyous memories. You rode an epic wave right to your blanket on the beach. Who is to blame for the ending of the ride....the wave,  or the beach? There is no blame, it all is what it is and no more. IF one MUST assign blame for closure....one would blame the surfer for the unrealistic expectation. My congratulations sir on your wonderful experience...may we all be as fortunate.