stevie-2249

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7 hours ago, gr8owl said:

A brilliant self analysis. And here i thought you were just a bitter troll. My bad.

I just quoted this particular post, but could have grabbed others. You are usually a wise old, smooth flying owl, but your feathers have seemed ruffled of late. I feel perhaps you are dealing with something hard right now in your life (maybe pun intended). If so, I hope it works out well and you resume the smooth flying in easy skies.

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2 hours ago, 2Big said:

I suspect that most guys vastly overestimate their stamina and staying power. 

Based on their porn-watching habits, they're thinking: man, I'm gonna pound this bitch into the ground for an hour straight. 

In reality, they turn out to be 3-minute heroes, bust a nut quickly, then sit in a corner, crying like little Baby Jesus.

...while the provider goes: so, what do you want to do, we still have 57 minutes left.:lol:

There you go again! Sugar coating every word....:D..

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2 hours ago, 2Big said:

I suspect that most guys vastly overestimate their stamina and staying power. 

Based on their porn-watching habits, they're thinking: man, I'm gonna pound this bitch into the ground for an hour straight. 

In reality, they turn out to be 3-minute heroes, bust a nut quickly, then sit in a corner, crying like little Baby Jesus.

...while the provider goes: so, what do you want to do, we still have 57 minutes left.:lol:

Hilarious!:lol: 

As a provider though, there are ways to keep this scenario from happening. If someone is paying for my time, I feel it's my responsibility to have them enjoy all of that time, one way or another. That may be with conversation, massage, some good laughs, (the list goes on) or simply delaying instant gratification with the right kind of intellectual or sensual foreplay. This is the art of the true courtesan. There is nothing more gratifying than knowing you provided an experience that will linger in their minds for days after and have everyone wondering what they're smiling about. We are entertainers, and if you're a good one, you aren't sitting around with an extra 57 minutes of showtime left, nor do you send your audience home early. They bought a ticket after all. ;) And like a few of the ladies mentioned earlier, I think the experience is so much richer when you take the time to connect a bit. I've been on stage and it's the same concept really. When you connect with your audience the set, dance, presentation, whatever, will be better received and you'll have more fun.

I realize not everyone sees it the way I do, and therefore, not everyone is the right fit for me. But as I said earlier, the onus is on both sides, to make sure that expectations are set correctly and met. Then everyone leaves the encounter with a smile on their face.

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47 minutes ago, Laci French said:

I just want each of you that’s continui this thread to ask yourself how it would feel if it was directed at you. 

Just a little respect. 

How would I feel if I had a whole thread talking about me ripping guys off 45-50mins worth of time, I've been paid an hour for? Like total shit. Not because of the thread either, but for being the kind of provider who does that to my clients. I would feel horrible, mortified. If the client pays for and wants his hour. He deserves his hour. If providers who do that to clients want some respect, how about show a little respect? How about going back and offering those guys the 45 to 50 mins they paid for. That's respect. 

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Kandi, I just love you to pieces.😘

This thread just felt sad to me and those of you that want and need to justify it that’s fine. Just sad to me. 

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Simply put, a booked session for a set time should happen. So if someone books an hour, 60 full minutes should be given with a few minutes over in case its a really fun time. 

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46 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

How would I feel if I had a whole thread talking about me ripping guys off 45-50mins worth of time, I've been paid an hour for? Like total shit. Not because of the thread either, but for being the kind of provider who does that to my clients. I would feel horrible, mortified. If the client pays for and wants his hour. He deserves his hour. If providers who do that to clients want some respect, how about show a little respect? How about going back and offering those guys the 45 to 50 mins they paid for. That's respect. 

Thank you Hunter. Being on the receiving end of these experiences can be downright hurtful. It can cause a guy to unnecessarily question some very personal things about himself which, while we all recover, festers with the foul play of it,  leaving the gent hurt and naturally angry. On top of it all, there is absolutely no real recourse available (other than “crying in the corner like Baby Jesus”). Put another way, getting ripped off with our pants down, stings in a very unique and personal way. I sense that this lingering stinging sensation is what we are seeing in this thread today.

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2 minutes ago, LightningP said:

Thank you Hunter. Being on the receiving end of these experiences can be downright hurtful. It can cause a guy to unnecessarily question some very personal things about himself which, while we all recover, festers with the foul play of it,  leaving the gent hurt and naturally angry. On top of it all, there is absolutely no real recourse available (other than “crying in the corner like Baby Jesus”). Put another way, getting ripped off with our pants down, stings in a very unique and personal way. I sense that this lingering stinging sensation is what we are seeing in this thread today.

I'm very sorry this has happened to you, and all the other guys this happens to. I'm with the guys on this one. To me this like the guys staying for an hour, and taking some of the money back as they walk out the door. It's total bs.

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I’m glad a lot of you people see where I went with this thread, some took offense, but thank you for all your feedback

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I see where you are with this thread and my question is with everyone that has posted to piggyback on this poor lady.... 

What would your worst appointment say about each of you in a PUBLIC thread?  I only want to hear from all the perfect providers/hobbyists.  It would hurt and make you feel like shit. Right?  

Now consider if someone has children to support and buy for...how do your words feel now?

Merry Christmas everyone and please just stop and think.

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None of us are without blame.  None of us.

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We can ALL do better.

Please treat other people how you want to be treated. I believe we ALL want to be treated and talked about nicely.

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People try to hurt my feelings because I say what I think is the truth whether it is or not, we all have opinions, that’s what is great about this world, people are to sensitive, I know what I say sometimes can probably be held back and yes I hold a lot back but I’m willing to take criticism for my actions!  If I was perfect like badboy then it would be hurtful. 

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9 minutes ago, Laci French said:

I see where you are with this thread and my question is with everyone that has posted to piggyback on this poor lady.... 

What would your worst appointment say about each of you in a PUBLIC thread?  I only want to hear from all the perfect providers/hobbyists.  It would hurt and make you feel like shit. Right?  

Now consider if someone has children to support and buy for...how do your words feel now?

Merry Christmas everyone and please just stop and think.

Sorry about that Laci. But as you know, thinking isn't one of my strong suits.

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3 minutes ago, stevie-2249 said:

People try to hurt my feelings because I say what I think is the truth whether it is or not, we all have opinions, that’s what is great about this world, people are to sensitive, I know what I say sometimes can probably be held back and yes I hold a lot back but I’m willing to take criticism for my actions!  If I was perfect like badboy then it would be hurtful. 

You know I love you so damn much❤️

I was just wanting all of us to think about what our worst appointment might say about us in the open...could be humiliating to all of us. 

I know your heart and it really is pure and honest...this thread just took a nasty turn  

 

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Thank you laci and yes certain members kept it going, but there were a lot of awsome answers so kudos to all that contributed 

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11 minutes ago, stevie-2249 said:

People try to hurt my feelings because I say what I think is the truth whether it is or not, we all have opinions, that’s what is great about this world, people are to sensitive, I know what I say sometimes can probably be held back and yes I hold a lot back but I’m willing to take criticism for my actions!  If I was perfect like badboy then it would be a wonderful thing to behold, the Earth would be a better place and I would be a happier person.

Here, I fixed it for you. :rolleyes:

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12 minutes ago, Laci French said:

You know I love you so damn much❤️

I was just wanting all of us to think about what our worst appointment might say about us in the open...could be humiliating to all of us. 

I know your heart and it really is pure and honest...this thread just took a nasty turn  

 

What started as a question/opinion turned into a real S**tstorm. Observing from the outside there have been plenty of attacks and counters which in my opinion shouldn't be. As Laci stated, we've all had moments/times/ appointments that we'd like to, and should, forget. We've all also had moments/times/ appointments that changed us. Attacks, piling on have no purpose. It doesn't help anyone, can destroy one, and I'm pretty sure no one benefits in any way. 

I use to go to meetings that were closed with the statement; "Take what you need and leave the rest. What was said here was said in confidence". Maybe if we adapt that to appointments and change the word from said to happened, all would/will be winners. My mom is 93 and gets smarter every day. One of the cliche's she alsways said was "if you can't say something nice". Point is as Laci stated, we all have bad days. That does not define who we are.

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1 minute ago, comfortseeker said:

What started as a question/opinion turned into a real S**tstorm. Observing from the outside there have been plenty of attacks and counters which in my opinion shouldn't be. As Laci stated, we've all had moments/times/ appointments that we'd like to, and should, forget. We've all also had moments/times/ appointments that changed us. Attacks, piling on have no purpose. It doesn't help anyone, can destroy one, and I'm pretty sure no one benefits in any way. 

I use to go to meetings that were closed with the statement; "Take what you need and leave the rest. What was said here was said in confidence". Maybe if we adapt that to appointments and change the word from said to happened, all would/will be winners. My mom is 93 and gets smarter every day. One of the cliche's she alsways said was "if you can't say something nice". Point is as Laci stated, we all have bad days. That does not define who we are.

I am so blessed to have you in my life and as a friend. I love you so much and thank you for that wisdom. 

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6 hours ago, 2Big said:

In reality, they turn out to be 3-minute heroes, bust a nut quickly, then sit in a corner, crying like little Baby Jesus, and write a bad review.

 

When you are right you are right big guy, and you nailed it. With small fix

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3 hours ago, Admiral C said:

I just quoted this particular post, but could have grabbed others. You are usually a wise old, smooth flying owl, but your feathers have seemed ruffled of late. I feel perhaps you are dealing with something hard right now in your life (maybe pun intended). If so, I hope it works out well and you resume the smooth flying in easy skies.

Thank you for the kind words Admiral.  Always enjoy your posts, usually agree with.  Yes, perhaps a bit grumpy.  But I have tried many times of late to raise the mood around here.  This thread however is a shit show.  When a group of people pile onto one, in this case for precious little reason, and no one speaks up, yes I will call out the mob.  As to my response to the Hobbit I thought it was amazingly restrained given the shit he tossed my way.

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2 hours ago, Laci French said:

I see where you are with this thread and my question is with everyone that has posted to piggyback on this poor lady.... 

What would your worst appointment say about each of you in a PUBLIC thread?  I only want to hear from all the perfect providers/hobbyists.  It would hurt and make you feel like shit. Right?  

Now consider if someone has children to support and buy for...how do your words feel now?

Merry Christmas everyone and please just stop and think.

Bless you Laci.

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1 hour ago, stevie-2249 said:

People try to hurt my feelings because I say what I think is the truth whether it is or not, we all have opinions, that’s what is great about this world, people are to sensitive, I know what I say sometimes can probably be held back and yes I hold a lot back but I’m willing to take criticism for my actions!  If I was perfect like badboy then it would be hurtful. 

People try to hurt YOUR feelings???  Wow.  But since you and the other gentleman that started this shit show had no ill intent, meant no harm and meant no one in particular, I guess you will both (and those who piled on) be apologizing to the one that you caused emotional turmoil, hurt and tension for what is already a hard time of year - Christmas.  Right?  Or you really did mean it?  Can't wait for the ending.

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Mr. Owl,  I hope you have a better night than you are having right now.

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8 minutes ago, ilovewomen said:

Mr. Owl,  I hope you have a better night than you are having right now.

Thank you, but my night is perfectly fine as is.

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36 minutes ago, gr8owl said:

Can't wait for the ending.

When people spend their days screwing people over, and continue on, well, forever I guess, these posts are going to continue to pop up. The guys that have experienced this will continue to speak up, and hopefully providers who think this is not acceptable will speak up as well. This thread was about time and compensation. He wasn't just talking about being shorted the last few minutes of a session. He was talking about being shorted the majority of the session. It's a valid topic. Instead of keeping it about that, you turned it into about one person, and then the poor lady stuff started. To me,  this is about all providers who do this. Not just one. He made a post about what many guys who've been treated this way are thinking, and I agree with him. I feel strongly about this topic, and don't feel the slightest bit bad about sharing my opinion on it. 

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3 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

When people spend their days screwing people over, and continue on, well, forever I guess, these posts are going to continue to pop up. The guys that have experienced this will continue to speak up, and hopefully providers who think this is not acceptable will speak up as well. This thread was about time and compensation. He wasn't just talking about being shorted the last few minutes of a session. He was talking about being shorted the majority of the session. It's a valid topic. Instead of keeping it about that, you turned it into about one person, and then the poor lady stuff started. To me,  this is about all providers who do this. Not just one. He made a post about what many guys who've been treated this way are thinking, and I agree with him. I feel strongly about this topic, and don't feel the slightest bit bad about sharing my opinion on it. 

Hunter, I have always enjoyed your posts, considered you to be a classy lady and I like and respect you.  But we disagree.  I already said in more than one post, I agree the alleged topic is a valid one.  But it popping up immediately after the review and then direct reference was made to that review, I am sorry.  I am not naive and I don't think you are either.  We both (all) know damn good and well what the intent was. I take it you have intimate knowledge of her recent behavior that I do not - and no I do NOT want to hear about it other than a review or PRIVATE message.  I am going by the 20 something consecutive good reviews and the lameness of the review in question.  If you are basing it on clients sob stories as they talk shit to you but file no review, well, just think of the shit they are talking about YOU to another lady.  Not cool.

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I've read this entire thread, and the judging from the replies, I know two things: a) There are ladies I am glad I have met, and  2) I know which ladies I want to meet.

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1 hour ago, Laci French said:

I see where you are with this thread and my question is with everyone that has posted to piggyback on this poor lady.... 

What would your worst appointment say about each of you in a PUBLIC thread?  I only want to hear from all the perfect providers/hobbyists.  It would hurt and make you feel like shit. Right?  

Now consider if someone has children to support and buy for...how do your words feel now?

Merry Christmas everyone and please just stop and think.

Really? Call me insensitive then, I’m terribly sorry to have offended anyone’s sensibilitiee here. So let’s all think indeed. First, did I mention any one individual by name? I’m pretty sure that you don’t have a clue as to who’s treated me this way. I never reviewed any of them and moved on. In fact, in my case, it wasn’t just one “poor lady”. I’ve actually lost count.

For my brethren, who’ve complained of this treatment above, I have a few words for all you poor ladies, and yeah, they don’t feel very nice. You’re right, who knows, if the poor ladies all chose to write about us, maybe they would all say we were too old or fat or unattractive or underendowed. That would certainly add to the awkward feelings. In real life,  I’m sure they made each of us at least wonder what we’d done wrong, and that is the true bullshit of it isn’t it. No, they didn’t write about us in an adult forum. They were quite comfortable with us living it, real time, in the moment. You see, we already felt like shit, right there and then. In fact, in my case, I even caught myself leaving the venue, pounding on the steering wheel chanting a solemn vow to never see providers again. You see, the real world problem with this Laci is that we were never under contract to provide a service to begin with. Our end of the bargain, in every case, was fulfilled in good faith.

In any event, as you might have read earlier, I had no idea  who everyone was referring to here. I would never single anyone out in the forum. Perhaps, it might be best for us all to just leave this one for the history books. It’s getting hot in here, and not in a good way. Lastly, I just have to say, if I ever treated anyone in my business in such an unethical manner, I would fully expect to lose that business. You’re right Laci, my four kids wouldn’t get their subsidies. But that would be my bad, not the client’s. So, in my world, I would never consider treating a client this way, no matter what brand of shithead she might turn out to be.There are real consequences in my line of work. To think that there shouldn’t be for you is actually troubling. 

But I really do agree, let’s move on, shall we.  Merry Christmas to all and to all you ladies and gentlemen, I wish your next adventure is everything you dream it will be tonight.

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21 minutes ago, gr8owl said:

Hunter, I have always enjoyed your posts, considered you to be a classy lady and I like and respect you.  But we disagree.  I already said in more than one post, I agree the alleged topic is a valid one.  But it popping up immediately after the review and then direct reference was made to that review, I am sorry.  I am not naive and I don't think you are either.  We both (all) know damn good and well what the intent was. I take it you have intimate knowledge of her recent behavior that I do not - and no I do NOT want to hear about it other than a review or PRIVATE message.  I am going by the 20 something consecutive good reviews and the lameness of the review in question.  If you are basing it on clients sob stories as they talk shit to you but file no review, well, just think of the shit they are talking about YOU to another lady.  Not cool.

I don't talk to the lady you are speaking of at all, nor has any of my clients, or gentlemen I know reached out to me with any sob stories regarding this lady you are speaking of. I'm basing my opinions on the fact that I dont think it's cool to do clients this way, as a business practice. I would think the only people offended by this would be the people who run their business this way. I understand where you are coming from though. There was a time when I felt the way you did. 

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