Safety with waves of new comers

[skinnydud]

1st of 1000 i apologize if this was already discussed. 

With bp and Eccie  and ...etc gone there are waves of new comers and limited reviews which raises a lot of concern for both providers and clients.  For me i find it hard to trust anyone here lately  ... just too much at risk  ... any alternatives other than p411? How do you guys feel about the new market. 

Would you guys be will to start referencing  for both parties not just clients Especially  with reviews new form?

[fishndude57]

Oh for Pete's sake, figure it out. As of this reply I only personally know of 1 person that got smacked, and that's not 1st person knowledge either. Yes this is not the 70's of free love. I so miss those days. Do your due diligence and have FUN. If your that freaked, get a different hobby. Myself, I'm good no issues at all, and I've met a lot of different peeps, I choose to do that tho...not crawl into my shell. 

[geecue2]

48 minutes ago, skinnydud said:

1st of 1000 i apologize if this was already discussed. 

With bp and Eccie  and ...etc gone there are waves of new comers and limited reviews which raises a lot of concern for both providers and clients.  For me i find it hard to trust anyone here lately  ... just too much at risk  ... any alternatives other than p411? How do you guys feel about the new market. 

Would you guys be will to start referencing  for both parties not just clients Especially  with reviews new form?

I assume you are not a member of P 411, by your post. P 411 is the safest and always has been the safest way to go.  There has been a lot more back channeling since the recent inflow of new providers and new reviews. 

[ilovewomen]

1 hour ago, fishndude57 said:

Oh for Pete's sake, figure it out. As of this reply I only personally know of 1 person that got smacked, and that's not 1st person knowledge either. Yes this is not the 70's of free love. I so miss those days. Do your due diligence and have FUN. If your that freaked, get a different hobby. Myself, I'm good no issues at all, and I've met a lot of different peeps, I choose to do that tho...not crawl into my shell. 

Fish, you said it perfectly.

I agree, get a new hobby if you are freaked by the new reality.  

Maybe badminton would be his cup of tea.

[amcbl1]

5 hours ago, skinnydud said:

1st of 1000 i apologize if this was already discussed. 

With bp and Eccie  and ...etc gone there are waves of new comers and limited reviews which raises a lot of concern for both providers and clients.  For me i find it hard to trust anyone here lately  ... just too much at risk  ... any alternatives other than p411? How do you guys feel about the new market. 

Would you guys be will to start referencing  for both parties not just clients Especially  with reviews new form?

 

4 hours ago, geecue2 said:

I assume you are not a member of P 411, by your post. P 411 is the safest and always has been the safest way to go.  There has been a lot more back channeling since the recent inflow of new providers and new reviews. 

If you aren't a p411 member, as Geecue2 said, there's a lot of back channeling going on. Select a reviewer that has multiple reviews that you trust pm him and ask him/her for specifics. As before if the provider has no reviews or isn't listed on p411, I'd be wary of seeing them. I've already noticed on a couple of listings posted that they are using stolen photos one from a south of the border escort site, another from The Chive. Both of those providers have no reviews.

[NoCoGeezer]

Aw hell! Just suck it up or move on!

Sorry to be a jerk, but, what we are seeing today is pretty much how it was in the pre-internet era. No "guarantees", reviews. Fake pics. Actually, now, maybe a bit more difficult for LE to be a problem: when they could throw up random ads on Backpage/Craigslist, was like shooting fish in a barrel for them. Common sense come into play now. Pics TGTBT, as always, probably is. Lady has no long term ad history anywhere, probably best to avoid for now. Stop looking for the unicorn.

Been traveling and just had a nice appointment with a lady that is not on TOB, P411. Pics were old, but had been advertising for a while pre boards armageddon, comfortable enough that was not LE, so, just needed to go in and hope to have at least an ok time. Win some, lose some, and a draw the rest (draw in this case: great service, misleading pics probably not any time soon, as others in that area would be up next).

[Guest]

16 hours ago, skinnydud said:

1st of 1000 i apologize if this was already discussed. 

With bp and Eccie  and ...etc gone there are waves of new comers and limited reviews which raises a lot of concern for both providers and clients.  For me i find it hard to trust anyone here lately  ... just too much at risk  ... any alternatives other than p411? How do you guys feel about the new market. 

Would you guys be will to start referencing  for both parties not just clients Especially  with reviews new form?

Please feel free to quiz me about any of the ladies I have seen!

The new review system basically Sucks! BUT that's life! At least we still have this board and it is still a valuable resource for both ladies and gentlemen!

[Laci French]

1 hour ago, a_happycamper_12 said:

Please feel free to quiz me about any of the ladies I have seen!

The new review system basically Sucks! BUT that's life! At least we still have this board and it is still a valuable resource for both ladies and gentlemen!

I would be careful about giving out too much information to newbies.  

[Bit Banger]

16 hours ago, ilovewomen said:

Fish, you said it perfectly.

I agree, get a new hobby if you are freaked by the new reality.  

Maybe badminton would be his cup of tea.

Naw, he needs to learn how to Tiddle. 😛

[Bora Bora]

44 minutes ago, Laci French said:

I would be careful about giving out too much information to newbies.  

Exactly! I've had a couple of completely new members (no posts, no reviews, recently signed up) asking for services provided by specific ladies. I politely declined to give details and shared compliments about their awesome personalities.

[Laci French]

Great call on your part. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Laci French said:

I would be careful about giving out too much information to newbies.  

I am Laci and thanks

The poster  is a 3 year veteran 

Much happiness to you 

🌹

 

[Wingman69]

It will all work out! I feel safer with the ladies on the board. I have asked for input from some reviewers, some have been helpful, some kind of stand offish. I am new but not so new. Just kinda feeling my way, A nd have had some feel good times in the process!

[skinnydud]

2 hours ago, Laci French said:

I would be careful about giving out too much information to newbies.  

I probably have been a member of tob longer than you. But thanks l, i never saw or will try to see you. 

WoW 

[skinnydud]

you just see that stupid date and you decided i am a newbie  ... i actually go back to 2008 and official membership started early  2010.  Life is busy so iam on an off ... i dont really care about your opinion or owe you an explanation but coz every word i post here pisses you off like i am posting on your door.

Be a little positive and those who want to help do it 

[Happymon]

10 minutes ago, skinnydud said:

Be a little positive and those who want to help do it 

 

20 hours ago, skinnydud said:

1st of 1000 i apologize if this was already discussed. 

I think my reaction matches the first couple of responses.  This topic has been discussed since the changes.  Maybe not 1000, but there are a lot of threads about pm helping, peoples' willingness and the limits each individual was setting.  If you've been here since the rocks cooled, then you know that one thing that sets people off is folks asking a question without doing basic research.  If you had read a little, done a little work, you would see that your question has been asked (repeatedly) and answered (repeatedly) in volumes.  Weeks ago.  

The lord helps those who help themselves. And others.  And BTW, don't be a dud.  

Edited May 27, 2018 by Happymon

[Laci French]

38 minutes ago, skinnydud said:

I probably have been a member of tob longer than you. But thanks l, i never saw or will try to see you. 

WoW 

Newbie status does not apply to you, I was speaking in general.  

My loss as I’m sure I’m missing out on a great guy.  

 

[ilovewomen]

1 hour ago, skinnydud said:

I probably have been a member of tob longer than you. But thanks l, i never saw or will try to see you. 

WoW 

Your loss.  But with an attitude like yours, it’s Laci's gain.

[ilovewomen]

21 hours ago, skinnydud said:

1st of 1000 i apologize if this was already discussed. 

With bp and Eccie  and ...etc gone there are waves of new comers and limited reviews which raises a lot of concern for both providers and clients.  For me i find it hard to trust anyone here lately  ... just too much at risk  ... any alternatives other than p411? How do you guys feel about the new market. 

Would you guys be will to start referencing  for both parties not just clients Especially  with reviews new form?

 

1 hour ago, skinnydud said:

you just see that stupid date and you decided i am a newbie  ... i actually go back to 2008 and official membership started early  2010.  Life is busy so iam on an off ... i dont really care about your opinion or owe you an explanation but coz every word i post here pisses you off like i am posting on your door.

Be a little positive and those who want to help do it 

You’ve been here 10 years and only 42 posts.

Id think being a 10 year member, you’d have a clue about how things work and how to find a quality lady instead of whining about the new reality in the hobby world.

[Plot]

Wow.   That was a bit harsh.  I don’t know Laci personally, but I’ve never seen her be anything but polite in her posts.   I think she was making a general statement.

[Bora Bora]

It seems somebody got his feelings hurt? 

[hornyoldtoad]

1 hour ago, JustFine said:

back channeling... sounds like a sex position   cant say I was ever good at back channeling, always been a loner, always will be.. thats why I liked p411.

I also think p411 is the safest.. but that doesnt mean its 100% safe.   I always have to remind myself, the government is like a virus, it attempts to infiltrate ALL groups that assemble in any way.

 

Agreed p411 is probably the safest; it comes with their screening (which is a blanket statement about the hobby) - but sadly they are not accepting new members:(

[Guest]

Let’s play “ Let’s Pretend: “

Let’s pretend that Clients could still post reviews with embellishments and ACRONYMS about any provider.

And let’s pretend that anyone, oh say an FNG or a seasoned veteran (take your pick of who)  read those reviews! 

Oh and let’s ALSO pretend that providers could also post ads descriptive of activities she provides! Complete with the SAME acronyms that happened to be in her reviews! And donations for those activities?!?! 

So now let’s NOT pretend.! What’s the difference of a gentleman, messaging a gentleman who has seen a given provider and asking him to provide information that WOULD have been available to ANYONE prior to the restrictions now facing us? He might give a very similar “review “. Mentioning YMMV or Individual Results May Vary. Helping client to make an informed decision of who or who not to see . 

It seems like some are afraid of a messaged “ review “ versus a public review? 

IMHO, it seems hypocritical to not want guys to quiz other guys about a visit with a certain lady. Especially when only a few months ago the guy could have arrived at an informed decision with out messaging another guy. 

And BTW, that dirty phrase , BACK CHANNEL messaging has been around! Just now more than ever. 

I And other gentlemen have been here many years. We have a lot of FNG’s, some of whom contact me ask for advice. Oh BTW, it’s not just gentlemen, ladies too! 

I TACTFULLY try to assist them . Always telling them to be respectful and gentlemenly.

i invite ANY lady I have seen to message me NOT to recommend a gentleman, veteran or FNG. 

 

[Cecilia]

What is FNG?

[gr8owl]

24 minutes ago, Cecilia said:

What is FNG?

Just a guess - Fucking New Guy.

[Cecilia]

Thanks Owl 

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, gr8owl said:

Just a guess - Fucking New Guy.

It’s a pet name I ( at least I think I started) started for newbies! 😎

i is common term for new employees at a job! 

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Sexy Francesca said:

I have heard that at my day job before!! Interesting lol 

It’s a pet name I ( at least I think I started) started for newbies!

 

 In my opinion I would look at the date that a lady joined TOB and I would cross reference that with the date that she joined P411 and if those two dates were along time ago say 5+ years  and she has several good recent reviews here...  I would think that would qualify for safety?? But I don’t know I’m only on one side of the coin XOXO

 

Thank you Francesca Dear

When I said I thought I started it I was referring to TOB. I had never seen it used here before I posted a reference to it.

The term "FNG" has been around as long as there have been FNG's..lol

 

Much Happiness to you dear!

[Bit Banger]

9 hours ago, gr8owl said:

Just a guess - Fucking New Guy.

When I was going through Army schools it was F’ng National Guard.  Their dog tags read “NG########”

But In this instance I believe gr8owl is correct.

[skinnydud]

On 5/27/2018 at 7:01 PM, a_happycamper_12 said:

Let’s play “ Let’s Pretend: “

Let’s pretend that Clients could still post reviews with embellishments and ACRONYMS about any provider.

And let’s pretend that anyone, oh say an FNG or a seasoned veteran (take your pick of who)  read those reviews! 

Oh and let’s ALSO pretend that providers could also post ads descriptive of activities she provides! Complete with the SAME acronyms that happened to be in her reviews! And donations for those activities?!?! 

So now let’s NOT pretend.! What’s the difference of a gentleman, messaging a gentleman who has seen a given provider and asking him to provide information that WOULD have been available to ANYONE prior to the restrictions now facing us? He might give a very similar “review “. Mentioning YMMV or Individual Results May Vary. Helping client to make an informed decision of who or who not to see . 

It seems like some are afraid of a messaged “ review “ versus a public review? 

IMHO, it seems hypocritical to not want guys to quiz other guys about a visit with a certain lady. Especially when only a few months ago the guy could have arrived at an informed decision with out messaging another guy. 

And BTW, that dirty phrase , BACK CHANNEL messaging has been around! Just now more than ever. 

I And other gentlemen have been here many years. We have a lot of FNG’s, some of whom contact me ask for advice. Oh BTW, it’s not just gentlemen, ladies too! 

I TACTFULLY try to assist them . Always telling them to be respectful and gentlemenly.

i invite ANY lady I have seen to message me NOT to recommend a gentleman, veteran or FNG. 

 

Thank you Sir, quite a few people here appreciate  people like you. However, not all members are willing  to share or help for their own reasons. Which I fully RESPECT.  

For that who said  blabla  that i only posted 42 times in 10 years, i will respond. Talking too much is not a virtue in my opinion... i will keep it to that.