BB

[Diamond John]

14 hours ago, E.J.England said:

I hate to say it but that shit is bad in the Dallas-fort worth- midcities area. One reason I barely work there is cause they want bbfs. Sad but True

Very true. Dallas was and still is the hobby paradise. Bbfs is still practiced even more so now. I know. I prefer it if I know the lady. In Dallas bbfs is everywhere ESPECIALLY since there are no review boards to out the providers offering it anymore. One reviewer with 262 reviews used to post pics and vids in the ROS. And even now on tube sites you can find many vids of Dallas ladies posted showing bbfs

Edited May 2, 2018 by Diamond John

[Mustang87]

22 minutes ago, Diamond John said:

Very true. Dallas was and still is the hobby paradise. Bbfs is still practiced even more so now. I know. I prefer it if I know the lady. In Dallas bbfs is everywhere ESPECIALLY since there are no review boards to out the providers offering it anymore. One reviewer with 262 reviews used to post pics and vids in the ROS. And even now on tube sites you can find many vids of Dallas ladies posted showing bbfs

If everybody is doing it, why is there a fear of being outed?

[BadBoy]

2 hours ago, Diamond John said:

Very true. Dallas was and still is the hobby paradise. Bbfs is still practiced even more so now. I know. I prefer it if I know the lady. In Dallas bbfs is everywhere ESPECIALLY since there are no review boards to out the providers offering it anymore. One reviewer with 262 reviews used to post pics and vids in the ROS. And even now on tube sites you can find many vids of Dallas ladies posted showing bbfs

And yet another reason to stay as far as possible from Dallas, Texas (as if we needed another reason to stay as far as fucking possible from Dallas, Texas).  Thank God that all of the great ladies from Dallas come up here to get a breath of fresh air (literally and figuratively) on a very regular basis.

Edited May 3, 2018 by BadBoy

[Coloseeker]

On 5/1/2018 at 11:38 AM, valconxen said:

Not saying her story is true or not,  but you can get pregnant while on birth control.

 

On 5/1/2018 at 0:46 PM, Violet Lovely said:

Nobody has to give BB anything. 

Never said anyone had to do to do so or that birth control was 100%

But it has been implied that to be successful in TX you had to do so.

And if that is the case, then wouldn't someone want to minimize things as much as possible, being on one or more types of Birth Control?

[Chloeblue83]

On 5/1/2018 at 8:15 AM, gr8owl said:

I call bullshit. Does this crap fly in Texas? Trying to convince/coerce ladies into thinking bbfs is normal or expected is really lame. Will some ask for? Yes. Does a lady remotely have to in order to have clients? Not in these parts "Wiley".  Peddle your bullshit eleswhere.

Happens every day all day in Texas,threats of bad reviews even physical to get them off it's very common every city I been in San Antonio, Austin,and Houston! But it's everywhere I go it's sad u don't know what will happen if u say no in person but u do and it can go bad or ok depends on the guy but u have to hold your ground! On a different note eccie will be back soon it's up but has a note for everyone that it's coming back 

[Violet Lovely]

I'm so glad I read this thread; I am never going to Texas. If someone says no to something BCD, they shouldn't have to stand their ground (because the other party is persistent). 

Edited May 3, 2018 by Violet Lovely
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[Paris Nikole]

21 hours ago, gr8owl said:

Yes, I know.  That is why I said BBFS is the riskiest EXCEPT for BB Greek.  I believe we agree.

Yup hahahhaha read it wrong lol

[jshere1]

Longtime lurker from New Mexico who has primarily used this board for info for deciding which ladies in CO to see when I visit. I have also have traveled to Dallas a few times as well the last couple of years. I will share my experiences. It was my understanding that it was about even for both CO and Dallas. It was hinted that bbfs was ok 50% of the time in both places from ladies both on this board and on eccie. It is also being hinted at a similar rate in New Mexico. 

So it seems to me to be the elephant in the room no one talks about but, it is happening. Probably more than people want to admit to. Has it become more prominent? Maybe, or maybe it is coming out of the closet more. Do providers feel pressured to participate in bb activities? Maybe. The keeping up with the Jones theory may be kicking in. 12 years ago when I started in this hobby it seemed to me that cbj was more prevalent than bbbj. It appeared that guys gravitated more to the bbbj providers and many boycotting any cbj providers. Now bbbj seems more prevalent then back years ago. Did more providers start offering it to gain more business? Or, did the whole hobby culture do a shift? Is bbfs another shift? 

We all know what the std statics are and they can readily be found. I rarely hear of any std incidents in the hobby world. Maybe they are not talked about as well. Or, maybe it just doesn't happen much after the last 30+ years of everyone being very safe. I don't know. Wishful thinking? Delusion? I just know what I know from my participation on boards like this and my own personal experiences. 

 

[Zelda Runner]

On 4/30/2018 at 2:16 PM, Rockin Colorado said:

I'm always surprised at the men calling, looking to leave out protection...anyone else blown away by this, or is it just me?

Unfortunately yes and it's an immediate no when that happens. 

[EmilyDMV]

On 4/30/2018 at 2:16 PM, Rockin Colorado said:

I'm always surprised at the men calling, looking to leave out protection...anyone else blown away by this, or is it just me?

It seems the requests have grown since Backpage shut down. There’s no way in hell I would ever do that. I take my health very seriously. I get tested regularly at the VA I care about my health and my clients health way too much . 

Edited May 8, 2018 by EmilyDMV

[shane]

On 4/30/2018 at 2:16 PM, Rockin Colorado said:

I'm always surprised at the men calling, looking to leave out protection...anyone else blown away by this, or is it just me?

Just under half of the ladies that I've seen have either offered BB or have been reviewed as going there. A very few actually went there without asking if I was interested.

[JRWolfe]

On 5/1/2018 at 9:09 AM, BeenHereDoingThis said:

 

Just a thought.  Wonder if some of this may be driven by the Porn Industry.  Early days all BB, then the AIDS scare and all covered, now they have constant testing and supposedly "Keep it in the family"  and back to BB.  

 

  Your history is off. take it you are a voyuer ? That would explain your opinion ( not putting it down,many jump to your conclusions ) . Fact is, talent was tested in the BB 70's , were tested monthly during the AIDS scare and not all were covered . Yes testing has increased to bi-weekly and is much more comprehensive  and not all are back to BB,they have choices. There is also a flesh colored condom that is rather popular. As for "keep it in the family," thanks to the porn industry money having gone down considerably with tube sites becoming popular because they are "free " (please run an anti malware scan per after viewing ) . More and more female performers are having fun "outside the family."  So expect to see even less BB in the new releases.

[gr8owl]

2 hours ago, shane said:

Just under half of the ladies that I've seen have either offered BB or have been reviewed as going there. A very few actually went there without asking if I was interested.

If you are going to make sweeping statements like this at least be clear what you are talking about. Bare back WHAT?? Hand job sure. Oral - yes, around half do, sounds close to correct. Full service - I call bullshit on anywhere near half offering and I know it was an extremely small percentage of reviews claiming it. Not that one can tell any more in reviews but ......

[Kandi Apple]

3 hours ago, shane said:

Just under half of the ladies that I've seen have either offered BB or have been reviewed as going there. A very few actually went there without asking if I was interested.

I don't know where you found these ladies that you seen. 

As a full service provider bare back is NOT part of the services offered! FUCKING PERIOD!!!

 

[Bravo1]

I would never expect BB anything, and I don't get the hobbyists who want to DATY for the same reason.  Plenty of other fun stuff to be done without those two items being needed. 

[Admiral C]

I'm sure guys ask and I'm sure some try to manipulate BB. The flood of new people from various other boards must statistically increase this. That said, the "new way" is going to cause a LARGE increase in this because such questions are NOT answered by reviews now. BBBJ is a huge business difference maker and I am sure some of the requests refer to THAT. In many ways, the new way has time warped us back 15-20 years. Back then, many TOB ladies staunchly waved the flag of  "Ladylike discretion, and safeguards from L.E!!" to explain why they did not allow reviews, and why they vehemently opposed ALL reviews. However, I can't recall a single one who provided BBBJ....that detail was obsessively hidden until AFTER the donation was in hand, and then..."No reviews!!!"...so as not to alert future marks. I'm SURE that behavior has increased quite a bit too. People are people, and just as guys and girls USED to scam and scheme 20 years ago, I'm sure they still do.....especially since we are back to early 2000's rules...or earlier. The cumbersome nature of information gathering now is also going  to contribute. Say a guys definition of the GFE he wants includes DFK...BBBJ. He has no clue who offers that from a field of girls the number of which has just tripled and which includes a lot more lousy providers secretly mixed in. So....he has a choice. Choose 15 girls....be screened 15 times.....afterwards learn he can now ask 6 of them.....then send out 15 pm's asking questions....wait for reply's....make a choice. Or he can ask all 15 girls straight up..."say...do you provide....X?"  I know what most of them are going to do. You know what they are going to do too, because they are calling you. This is the new norm. Your only choice is to do as Laci said....delete, forget, repeat.

[Paris Nikole]

1 hour ago, Bravo1 said:

I would never expect BB anything, and I don't get the hobbyists who want to DATY for the same reason.  Plenty of other fun stuff to be done without those two items being needed. 

Exactly!

[Paris Nikole]

Everyone that has contacted me on here (that have seen multiple girls) has not wanted to see me for the simple fact i don't offer daty or bbbj.....so what are the girls such as my self supposed to do? Any suggestions, because I have bills too lol  I was on BP before it shut down and I didn't have this problem...there were always a few here n there asking for BB but the majority didn't. 

[Laci French]

19 minutes ago, Paris Nikole said:

Everyone that has contacted me on here (that have seen multiple girls) has not wanted to see me for the simple fact i don't offer daty or bbbj.....so what are the girls such as my self supposed to do? Any suggestions, because I have bills too lol  I was on BP before it shut down and I didn't have this problem...there were always a few here n there asking for BB but the majority didn't. 

Stay true to yourself. There are some wonderful men out there that will flock to you. 

 

[acmb2017]

16 minutes ago, Paris Nikole said:

Everyone that has contacted me on here (that have seen multiple girls) has not wanted to see me for the simple fact i don't offer daty or bbbj.....so what are the girls such as my self supposed to do? Any suggestions, because I have bills too lol  I was on BP before it shut down and I didn't have this problem...there were always a few here n there asking for BB but the majority didn't. 

There are different strokes for different folks. All you can do is what you feel is best for you.Only you can decide if those are acceptable risks to take. Obviously some ladies and gents feel comfortable with it and some don't. 

I am not familiar with the workings of BP, but was there really any research done by the fellas there, or was it more of how much for how long? 

[shane]

1 hour ago, gr8owl said:

If you are going to make sweeping statements like this at least be clear what you are talking about. Bare back WHAT?? Hand job sure. Oral - yes, around half do, sounds close to correct. Full service - I call bullshit on anywhere near half offering and I know it was an extremely small percentage of reviews claiming it. Not that one can tell any more in reviews but ......

Call bullshit all you want, you're an asshat for saying that I implied that half of all the ladies offer BBFS. What I said was about my experiences and my experiences ONLY.

And only 2 reviews specifically mentioned BBFS, and that's not why I saw them. I'm not even going to spell out what happened with the others, but regardless of what I did or didn't do, I'll be wrong... and that's not something I have any interest in, aka YMMV.

[shane]

2 hours ago, Kandi Apple said:

I don't know where you found these ladies that you seen. 

As a full service provider bare back is NOT part of the services offered! FUCKING PERIOD!!!

 

I'm not going to answer that at all, since it would violate their rightful privacy rights. And it's *always* your right to not allow any services that you find distasteful or dangerous or whatever.

[shane]

2 hours ago, Bravo1 said:

I would and have never expected BB anything, and I don't get the hobbyists who want to DATY for the same reason.  Plenty of other fun stuff to be done without those two items being needed. 

Very true, and I didn't expect BBFS either... and all Hail all the other fun stuff from any other of the wonderful, kind and beautiful ladies here!

YMMV, as always.

[BeenHereDoingThis]

6 hours ago, JRWolfe said:

  Your history is off. take it you are a voyuer ? That would explain your opinion ( not putting it down,many jump to your conclusions ) . Fact is, talent was tested in the BB 70's , were tested monthly during the AIDS scare and not all were covered . Yes testing has increased to bi-weekly and is much more comprehensive  and not all are back to BB,they have choices. There is also a flesh colored condom that is rather popular. As for "keep it in the family," thanks to the porn industry money having gone down considerably with tube sites becoming popular because they are "free " (please run an anti malware scan per after viewing ) . More and more female performers are having fun "outside the family."  So expect to see even less BB in the new releases.

I may be off just my observations of the offerings over the years.  Don't claim to be a scholarly historian of the industry.  As I said just my observations.  Am I a voyeur?  I assume you are asking if I watch Adult Dramas, lol.  Then yes, yes I am.  Born a Horn Dog and don't plan to change.  Wouldn't think that to be a bad thing here.

[gr8owl]

1 hour ago, shane said:

Call bullshit all you want, you're an asshat for saying that I implied that half of all the ladies offer BBFS. What I said was about my experiences and my experiences ONLY.

And only 2 reviews specifically mentioned BBFS, and that's not why I saw them. I'm not even going to spell out what happened with the others, but regardless of what I did or didn't do, I'll be wrong... and that's not something I have any interest in, aka YMMV.

And you can call me ass hat all you want.  We are far into page three of this thread which is laced from almost the start with a few guys trying to make it sound like half of all ladies do offer BBFS in private, implying or stating that those who do not will not get business unless they do at a time that many are struggling because of the law changes.  In other words trying to make it SEEM normal and proceed to indirectly intimidate more ladies into offering than the relatively few that do by choice.  That is bullshit - the coercion and misrepresenting as being a common practice - and I will call bullshit whenever you or anyone else goes down that road of trying to be so abusive and inconsiderate of the ladies here.  Then you come along and state half of those you have seen either offered it to you or others' reviews say they did.  If not to imply the same as many others in this very thread were saying, then what was your point?  Then you say or imply that you did not seek these ladies out because of that activity.  So even though you did not look for it or seek out ladies that do,  half those you met just happened to offer it.  I would try to explain to you probability theory and statistics, but I fear it would be a waste of time.  And lastly, when many, many guys have stated they won't even see a lady that offers BBFS and when, again many are struggling, you throw out that half the women you have seen do, implying in some minds that half or so on your reviewed list do.  But I am the ass hat for for calling out bullshit when it strolls by.  Oh well, been called worse.  I could give a shit what you choose to do, i could give a shit what any lady freely chooses to do. I control what I choose to do or not do.   But I get testy over appearance of undo pressure, misrepresentation and outright intimidation of ladies that choose not to do anything, BBFS or otherwise, they are not comfortable doing.  Makes me an ass hat, then so be it.

[Mandrewthe4th]

About 3 years ago I met up with a provider who, while we were having BCD activities, offered for the cover to come off.  I declined but it still threw me off!  Methinks that lady had learned it was an easy upsell and was just thinking for the short term.  Was in communications with a super UTR provider up North in January and the pics she sent me involved her enjoy bbfs fun...and allowing me to NOPE the fuck outta that convo.

2 months ago I met with a separate provider and the cover broke during our round.  Even though she is a covered only provider it still freaked me out.  I don't know why any client would require BBFS from a provider to book with them.  But whatever, that's their prerogative.

I personally look for providers that offer BBBJ but rest of the activities covered.  Maybe it's all in my mind, but cbj just hasn't been as fun.  If a lady doesn't want to provide it, then we just aren't meant to meet up and that's fine too.

[JRWolfe]

14 hours ago, Kandi Apple said:

 

As a full service provider bare back is NOT part of the services offered! FUCKING PERIOD!!!

 

  Smart girl !!!       

[shane]

10 hours ago, gr8owl said:

And you can call me ass hat all you want.  We are far into page three of this thread which is laced from almost the start with a few guys trying to make it sound like half of all ladies do offer BBFS in private, implying or stating that those who do not will not get business unless they do at a time that many are struggling because of the law changes.  In other words trying to make it SEEM normal and proceed to indirectly intimidate more ladies into offering than the relatively few that do by choice.  That is bullshit - the coercion and misrepresenting as being a common practice - and I will call bullshit whenever you or anyone else goes down that road of trying to be so abusive and inconsiderate of the ladies here.  Then you come along and state half of those you have seen either offered it to you or others' reviews say they did.  If not to imply the same as many others in this very thread were saying, then what was your point?  Then you say or imply that you did not seek these ladies out because of that activity.  So even though you did not look for it or seek out ladies that do,  half those you met just happened to offer it.  I would try to explain to you probability theory and statistics, but I fear it would be a waste of time.  And lastly, when many, many guys have stated they won't even see a lady that offers BBFS and when, again many are struggling, you throw out that half the women you have seen do, implying in some minds that half or so on your reviewed list do.  But I am the ass hat for for calling out bullshit when it strolls by.  Oh well, been called worse.  I could give a shit what you choose to do, i could give a shit what any lady freely chooses to do. I control what I choose to do or not do.   But I get testy over appearance of undo pressure, misrepresentation and outright intimidation of ladies that choose not to do anything, BBFS or otherwise, they are not comfortable doing.  Makes me an ass hat, then so be it.

As do I, and same with every lady that I've ever seen. It's *always* their choice and just observing that it does happen (or not) is not going to change it, whatever my or others opinions are about it... or any other BCD service which may or may not be publicly or privately offered for that matter.

There is and was absolutely NO intent to be abusive to, inconsiderate of, apply pressure to, intimidate or misrepresent etc. *any* ladies here or elsewhere, and you're still an ass hat and hypocritical for suggesting that I was, especially given your bolded comments about choice. For any ladies that thought I am or was, I offer my deepest apologies.

My *only* points are that it does actually happen sometimes for whatever reasons, and that I now wish that I'd never brought it up.

[JRWolfe]

How stupid can someone be...male and female...to go BB in a unregulated hobby.  Who knows who a consenting partner has been with ? 

[Diamond John]

11 hours ago, JRWolfe said:

Who knows who a consenting partner has been with ? 

Yes, or who a provider sees in her private non-hobby life. A provider in Austin years ago accidently let it slip that her bf was bi, and they were swingers doing bb in private with gay men--but not in the hobby.

Edited May 11, 2018 by Diamond John