Another new guy

[Mike940370]

Hi everyone,   I joined about a week ago but this is my first post. Never had to before.  Just went on BP every couple weeks and found what I need. 

Dang, that was nice and easy.  Now, the couple girs I contacted want references.  I've always been discreet, and I only kept a couple phone numbers, and they are far out of town.  I have to be , in my opinion, just as careful or way more so than they do.  A couple have wanted a selfie and at least a business card.  This is scary compared to what I was used to. 

  Any of you guys can relate to this? 

This really sux, used to be so nice,  I could help a lady,  she could help me with no strings attached and we could have some fun.  I guess I'm ramblin but I'm frustrated and have not sealed a deal since BP went down.  I gotta change this but I can not keep a bunch of ladies phone #s programed into my phone.  Even if I did,  I never told any of them my name, ; so , if/ when I'm with my next lady, do I ask her to keep my name and phone #, occupation etc and please give me a reference to give to my next lady?

I just can't imagine doing this.

Any ways, thanks for giving me an avenue to vent my frustrations. Maybe I'll get to meet some one here

 

[Raine-7379]

It sounds like you did not respect the BP ladies to ensure their safety with your lack of screening.  You are disrespectful to say you have to be more careful than they do.  Your secret life is not more important than a providers life.  Screen or get the hell out of the hobby.  BP is gone and men need to realize we are not lowering our screening, safety and standards for anyone.

[Mike940370]

I said  " I have to be , in my opinion, just as careful or way more so than they do. " 

And, my secret life is "just as important" as the provider.  And when you send a copy of your drivers license, a business card and a selfie with 2 fingers up, I'll do the same. You first.

As far as disrespect,  I don't have all that much for you, but I've al;ways treated my ladies respectfully, and many told me I was a perfect gentleman, thanks for coming by, hope to see you again

 

Edited April 23, 2018 by Mike940370

[Gemma Chang]

To those men who refuse to be screened, you already are. 

[Tantra Erica]

Many women have different ways of screening. You need to be comfortable with at least your name, phone number and email address. You can set one up for hobbying. Proton mail is encrypted. If you can make a referral  in a way that can verify your line of work, as in a company website or linked in account  then one can  moving forward. You can give all this info verbally to many of us as well. I understand your fear but we really need to all get on the same page with this. Many of us are quite savy at protecting our privacy and yours because quite frankly Drama is Just not good for business. 

[ECO Leglover]

The entitlement mentality runs thick.

We have freedom of association. That means  we can choose  who we want to associate with  and who we don't. 

[Raine-7379]

2 minutes ago, ECO Leglover said:

The entitlement mentality runs thick.

We have freedom of association. That means  we can choose  who we want to associate with  and who we don't. 

1 minute ago, ECO Leglover said:

You're correct.  The provider that risk being rapped, robed, beating, arrest is entitled to protect herself. Men not willing to screen need to get out of the escort world.  Being held at gunpoint just occurred last week I'm COS.  This has to be a mutual trust or it will not work.

[boink36]

3 hours ago, Tantra Erica said:

Many women have different ways of screening. You need to be comfortable with at least your name, phone number and email address. You can set one up for hobbying. Proton mail is encrypted. If you can make a referral  in a way that can verify your line of work, as in a company website or linked in account  then one can  moving forward. You can give all this info verbally to many of us as well. I understand your fear but we really need to all get on the same page with this. Many of us are quite savy at protecting our privacy and yours because quite frankly Drama is Just not good for business. 

If we are on the page that says a guy would be crazy to give his work information, I agree. 

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, boink36 said:

If we are on the page that says a guy would be crazy to give his work information, I agree. 

And it does happen! Provider wants work info!

[Raine-7379]

11 minutes ago, boink36 said:

If we are on the page that says a guy would be crazy to give his work information, I agree. 

I would never ask for your work information.  I have to agree with this one. Just not my thing, but some ladies feel that they do.  

[MeganMarie4u]

1 minute ago, Raine-7379 said:

I would never ask for your work information.  I have to agree with this one. Just not my thing, but some ladies feel that they do.  

I ask a general occupation question... i.e. the field of work or job title.. I'm not expecting full disclosure.... I'm not a stalker 🤷‍♀️

[MeganMarie4u]

6 hours ago, Mike940370 said:

Hi everyone,   I joined about a week ago but this is my first post. Never had to before.  Just went on BP every couple weeks and found what I need. 

Dang, that was nice and easy.  Now, the couple girs I contacted want references.  I've always been discreet, and I only kept a couple phone numbers, and they are far out of town.  I have to be , in my opinion, just as careful or way more so than they do.  A couple have wanted a selfie and at least a business card.  This is scary compared to what I was used to. 

  Any of you guys can relate to this? 

This really sux, used to be so nice,  I could help a lady,  she could help me with no strings attached and we could have some fun.  I guess I'm ramblin but I'm frustrated and have not sealed a deal since BP went down.  I gotta change this but I can not keep a bunch of ladies phone #s programed into my phone.  Even if I did,  I never told any of them my name, ; so , if/ when I'm with my next lady, do I ask her to keep my name and phone #, occupation etc and please give me a reference to give to my next lady?

I just can't imagine doing this.

Any ways, thanks for giving me an avenue to vent my frustrations. Maybe I'll get to meet some one here

 

Better look for newbie friendly providers. Also highly reviewed ladies are probably pretty safe IMO with your work info...most ladies dont have time for the shenanigans you're fearing! 

Xo

MeganMarie 

[airamericavet65]

Screening is an essential part of safety it not only keeps the lady feeling secure it works to keep the entire Community safe. Everyone has their own methods find one that fits your needs and it will make contacting others easier. If you are totally unsafe in providing any information then you are looking for entertainment in the wrong place.

[pfunk]

There is no guaranty that you won't be outed. People can use your license plate, facial recognition software, have hidden cameras, etc, etc.

The question is, why would a girl want to out you? She loses a client, and gains nothing. 

I've given my personal information to dozens of girls in the last 20 years. No one has ever threatened me, or outed me. 

Be polite, provide the screening info requested, or don't see the lady. Easy peasy!

 

[ilovewomen]

Mike, you’re failing here.

Most is the BP ladies didn’t require screening as they were too new or were willing to take a chance you weren’t LE or going to get rough with them.

On a legitimate board, you will have to pass some of screening in order to see a lady, even if she is newbie friendly.

Seeing a lady in a board is a hell of a lot different than seeing a BP girl who is usually a one and done deal.

Remember, she has just as much to lose as you do and discretion is important for both parties.

If you don’t want to be screened, than maybe Rosy Palm is the best alternative for you.

 

 

[Mike940370]

Thanks everyone for the advice.  I will adapt. I just started this hobby, maybe 6 or 8 months ago. It is quite addicting, fun and maybe risky, but it sure makes me feel much younger. Not as good as I once was but I try to be as good once as I ever was. BP or maybe skip the games, once or twice is where I have met all my ladies, so I will learn the new standard; and I will find some one with whom we both trust each other.  I don't know where most of the BP girls have gone but I have seen some of the same pics here on this site. None that I have seen tho.  I'm not going to refuse to be screened in some way that does'nt give  her or me bad vibes but I need to screen my screening too. Even the BP ladies screened me too.

Thanks again for constructive advice

[Zelda Runner]

Screening is very important for safety for both men and us ladies and it can be a good conversation starter. No one can ever be too safe. 

[lakerboy24]

Quite frankly, providers that don't bother to screen would make me very nervous. It's not just for their safety, it's for yours too. I think a lot of guys that complain about screening need to just put themselves in the girls shoes. There are all kinds of people out there, the good, and sometimes unfortunately, the bad. This isn't just some product you're selling to someone random on Craigslist where you have a quick transaction in some public place and you're done. These girls are risking everything by doing what they do and we need to start appreciating them more. 

[Mike940370]

I know, it's risky for us both. We have to balance the risk/reward for sure.

[Danielle Rae]

Just because a provider doesn't ask for references or for personal info/ID etc. does not mean she is careless or any less professional.  I have been a  provider for over 10 years and have never had a single issue.  And I have never - not one time - asked for a reference.  Personally, I don't see the logic in trusting a complete stranger to vouch for another complete stranger.  Furthermore, asking for an ID or a real name doesn't provide any confirmation that the person isn't LE.  Nor does asking him outright.  I utilize common sense and conduct myself responsibly.  It's kept me safe for over a decade.  Just sayin

[anarchy34.5]

Totally agree!

[Mike940370]

Thanks for that Danielle

[Hunter VanDyke]

17 hours ago, ECO Leglover said:

The entitlement mentality runs thick.

We have freedom of association. That means  we can choose  who we want to associate with  and who we don't. 

Hi Mr Leglover 💋 Yes, you are so right. This is a mutually consenting activity between two adults. Every provider decides for herself whatever screening method she requires for her to feel safe and comfortable spending time alone with a gentleman. If the client is not comfortable providing the screening information she requires, he doesn't have to consent, and can move along to the next lady. 

[Guest]

Everyone is different and I respect how each and everyone and how each chooses their own comfort level, myself personally I would never ask a place of work or business, I have a career outside of this and can’t imagine a prospective client where my place of employment is, discretion is a 2 way street l.

[eatu55]

On 4/23/2018 at 1:40 AM, Gemma Chang said:

To those men who refuse to be screened, you already are. 

Pithy, Miss Gemma. Next time try Haiku.

[Gemma Chang]

On 4/23/2018 at 6:41 AM, pfunk said:

There is no guaranty that you won't be outed. People can use your license plate, 

There is a law is called the "Driver's Privacy Protection Act," and it was signed on September 13, 1994, by President Bill Clinton, who later remarked that he wished he hadn't signed it because "I never would've hooked up with Monica if I knew she drove a Neon."

Anyway: the Driver's Privacy Protection Act, or DPPA as it was affectionately nicknamed by the Legislative Committee for Affectionate Nicknames, prohibits the disclosure of personal information gathered by motor vehicle departments. The result is that the most information a person with your plate number could possibly get is the make and model of your vehicle. Not your name, not your address, not your date of birth, not your social security number, not whether you had feathered hair in the '80s, not whether you reach for slices of bread at restaurants but then put them back when you find out it's an end piece, etc.

So basically you have nothing to worry about when a normal person sees your license plate number, unless of course they have some sort of access to DMV records. Fortunately, this access is limited to the most upstanding members of our community – cops, lawyers, process servers, DMV employees named Alice whose fake fingernails are the size of television remotes – and that means it's pretty hard to get.

 

[Kosinski]

1 hour ago, Gemma Chang said:

 

 

So basically you have nothing to worry about when a normal person sees your license plate number, unless of course they have some sort of access to DMV records.

 

Anton Chigurh comes to mind...