SabrinaLynn aka KatieCreme

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17 hours ago, stevie-2249 said:

they defend her because they're white nights and no woman can do wrong in their eyes

That's not what I was asking though.

I'm wondering if they utilize her services.

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27 minutes ago, Cecilia said:

That's not what I was asking though.

I'm wondering if they utilize her services.

Cecillia, much of the historical record was lost when TOB changed format (w/new ownership). KC came on the old board, played games, spurned the advice of seasoned members (both client & escort), and burned several regulars. Then changed her name and played the same game, burning a few more who gave her a 2nd chance. SL is perhaps her 3rd incarnation.

Some of the regulars who got burned keep bringing up KC, probably to prevent her from playing her games. Others who have not experienced her variable behavior defend her. Personally I find her an entertaining board persona. I watched her receive & ignore good advice only to crash & burn - TWICE!  As for being a viable escort, I considered finding out it during her 2nd chance; I won’t risk it today. 

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On 4/2/2018 at 0:07 AM, Cecilia said:

I don't have a dog in this fight but I am curious about 2 things.

1) She shows her face in her pics so isn't that a one and done of who is she is/was?

2) How often do the gentleman defending her, book with her and review her?

Don't get any boxers in a twist, I'm just a curious on-looker. :D

Then why stir shit by bumping to top again if no dog in fight?

As to 1. yeah, dozens of pics in profile most showing face - she is not trying to hide anything.

As to 2. How is that remotely your business other than those who choose to review - which you can look for yourself.

But as one known to defend her - to the extent of how many years did you all sentence her to and are you all going to keep jumping her case - yes, based upon believing she has tried to turn a new leaf and 30 plus good reviews i would book with her once anyway if she ever drags her cute little butt south of Monument.

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19 hours ago, stevie-2249 said:

they defend her because they're white nights and no woman can do wrong in their eyes

Ridiculous statement.  I "defend" her because i believe she is trying, i believe anyone is entitled to redeem themselves if they are sincere and 30 plus very good reviews. So why do you continue to trash her - ever seen her yourself? As to those many burned in the past-  i get it. No frickin forgiveness ever and dont see her. But obsessing over it is pathetic. Anybody here perfect?

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44 minutes ago, gr8owl said:

Ridiculous statement.  I "defend" her because i believe she is trying, i believe anyone is entitled to redeem themselves if they are sincere and 30 plus very good reviews. So why do you continue to trash her - ever seen her yourself? As to those many burned in the past-  i get it. No frickin forgiveness ever and dont see her. But obsessing over it is pathetic. Anybody here perfect?

Gr8owl, I couldn’t have said it better myself.

I’ve never met her, but from my perspective and the reviews she received recently, she is trying.

I said it before and I’ll say it again, a moderator should remain neutral and not try and harass a provider until she leaves the board.

If a regular member here did that and public ally stated that he was going to that, he would get warning points and possibly a suspension as that is a clear violation of rule #6.

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4 hours ago, gr8owl said:

Then why stir shit by bumping to top again if no dog in fight?

As to 1. yeah, dozens of pics in profile most showing face - she is not trying to hide anything.

As to 2. How is that remotely your business other than those who choose to review - which you can look for yourself.

But as one known to defend her - to the extent of how many years did you all sentence her to and are you all going to keep jumping her case - yes, based upon believing she has tried to turn a new leaf and 30 plus good reviews i would book with her once anyway if she ever drags her cute little butt south of Monument.

It wasn't my intention to stir anything. I was just reading through the forum and when I get to the bottom it brings up the next unread thread. And 6 days isn't really that old of a thread anyways.

My curiosity is not meant to offend anyone and I definitely didn't mean anything against you personally. How is it your business, or my business, or anyone else's business? Its on a public forum and therefore anyone can comment on it.

I have no idea who this Kristi Kreme or whatever her name is but still find the thread entertaining. I felt like Sabrina must not be the kreme lady because of her pictures are showing her face and that her defenders would be backing this up with reviews stating she's a different person. But, what do I know?

 

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4 hours ago, gr8owl said:

Ridiculous statement.  I "defend" her because i believe she is trying, i believe anyone is entitled to redeem themselves if they are sincere and 30 plus very good reviews. So why do you continue to trash her - ever seen her yourself? As to those many burned in the past-  i get it. No frickin forgiveness ever and dont see her. But obsessing over it is pathetic. Anybody here perfect?

trying, bullshit!! if she was trying she wouldn't have any bad reviews!! all the complaints are the same, don't tell me she's trying lol

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Just now, stevie-2249 said:

trying, bullshit!! if she was trying she wouldn't have any bad reviews!! all the complaints are the same, don't tell me she's trying lol

And MOST of the bad reviews are one review wonders including several that created profile same day as review never to be heard from again. Hmmmm.  Again - have you seen her? Communicated with her? Try it - communicating before saying MY opinion of her sincerity is bullshit. I form my opinion directly.  So fond of reviews how about submitting a first one some day. 

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she rebuted  them so must be real, my assuming is gonna say that Sabrina didn't know those  unlucky guys knew about tob.

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OK, for crap's sake, we are talking about a real-live human being here, a member of our community, and one whose advertising dollars helps keep TOB alive.  As said before,  Sabrina has mixed reviews, its about 1 in 4 negative, 3 in 4 positive.  She refuted a couple, let the rest stand.  Everyone can read the reviews and make a fully educated guess whether to book a session or not.

Enough fucking said!!!!

Generally the mods jump in and cut off this kind of shit, but apparently they have decided that she deserves the hot-coal treatment, so we are just going to have to decide among ourselves as gentlemen that this beat-the-dead-horse thread must die.

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17 minutes ago, BadBoy said:

OK, for crap's sake, we are talking about a real-live human being here, a member of our community, and one whose advertising dollars helps keep TOB alive.  As said before,  Sabrina has mixed reviews, its about 1 in 4 negative, 3 in 4 positive.  She refuted a couple, let the rest stand.  Everyone can read the reviews and make a fully educated guess whether to book a session or not.

Enough fucking said!!!!

Generally the mods jump in and cut off this kind of shit, but apparently they have decided that she deserves the hot-coal treatment, so we are just going to have to decide among ourselves as gentlemen that this beat-the-dead-horse thread must die.

Not even just deserve it but actively participate and stoke the flames. It’s not the first time the mods have done this either.  

And you’re absolutely right in everything you said. 

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In my opinion, if you have a shaky reputation, and a history of making some mistakes and bad choices, and you want to start over,  don't start a topic on the board. Especially this particular topic that leaves you wide open for this kind of criticism. If you have some clients who have been burned, or hobbiests or mods who know several people who have been burned,  they're going to speak up about it. If I got burned, or new several providers who got burned by a client, I would speak up about it.  Also, Cecilia or anyone else has a right to comment or ask a question or share their opinion. I thought her question was valid. If you like this provider, and want to help her, see her and write a review. That seems much more helpful than jumping on the naysayers, or members asking questions. By doing that, you yourself are keeping the thread alive. All that being said I believe in 2nd, 3rd, 4th chances and so on. Anyone can change at anytime in their life. She has quite a few yes reviews and many of her no reviews are one time reviewers, so i wouldn't trust those if I were a client. But, there are other no reviews, and she posted her rebuttals, and everyone who would like to see her can make up their own minds. There are plenty of reviews to make an educated decision to see her or not. Sabrina, I do wish you the very best, and if you're honestly trying to turn your reputation around, I will definitely be rooting for you, and I hope you are successful. 

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18 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

In my opinion, if you have a shaky reputation, and a history of making some mistakes and bad choices, and you want to start over,  don't start a topic on the board. Especially this particular topic that leaves you wide open for this kind of criticism. If you have some clients who have been burned, or hobbiests or mods who know several people who have been burned,  they're going to speak up about it. If I got burned, or new several providers who got burned by a client, I would speak up about it.  Also, Cecilia or anyone else has a right to comment or ask a question or share their opinion. I thought her question was valid. If you like this provider, and want to help her, see her and write a review. That seems much more helpful than jumping on the naysayers, or members asking questions. By doing that, you yourself are keeping the thread alive. All that being said I believe in 2nd, 3rd, 4th chances and so on. Anyone can change at anytime in their life. She has quite a few yes reviews and many of her no reviews are one time reviewers, so i wouldn't trust those if I were a client. But, there are other no reviews, and she posted her rebuttals, and everyone who would like to see her can make up their own minds. There are plenty of reviews to make an educated decision to see her or not. Sabrina, I do wish you the very best, and if you're honestly trying to turn your reputation around, I will definitely be rooting for you, and I hope you are successful. 

Drop the Mic !!!

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47 minutes ago, PieluvinTexan said:

Drop the Mic !!!

No baby, its not a drop the mic deal. I was being real, it's real life, and i really hope she does well.

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1 hour ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

In my opinion, if you have a shaky reputation, and a history of making some mistakes and bad choices, and you want to start over,  don't start a topic on the board. Especially this particular topic that leaves you wide open for this kind of criticism. If you have some clients who have been burned, or hobbiests or mods who know several people who have been burned,  they're going to speak up about it. If I got burned, or new several providers who got burned by a client, I would speak up about it.  Also, Cecilia or anyone else has a right to comment or ask a question or share their opinion. I thought her question was valid. If you like this provider, and want to help her, see her and write a review. That seems much more helpful than jumping on the naysayers, or members asking questions. By doing that, you yourself are keeping the thread alive. All that being said I believe in 2nd, 3rd, 4th chances and so on. Anyone can change at anytime in their life. She has quite a few yes reviews and many of her no reviews are one time reviewers, so i wouldn't trust those if I were a client. But, there are other no reviews, and she posted her rebuttals, and everyone who would like to see her can make up their own minds. There are plenty of reviews to make an educated decision to see her or not. Sabrina, I do wish you the very best, and if you're honestly trying to turn your reputation around, I will definitely be rooting for you, and I hope you are successful. 

Well said Hunter.

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1 hour ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

No baby, its not a drop the mic deal. I was being real, it's real life, and i really hope she does well.

I get that sweetie, I hope she does well too. I just think your post really hit a homerun in so many ways, especially the part about anyone and everyone has the right to speak their piece on an open forum no matter their opinion

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5 minutes ago, PieluvinTexan said:

I get that sweetie, I hope she does well too. I just think your post really hit a homerun in so many ways, especially the part about anyone and everyone has the right to speak their piece on an open forum no matter their opinion

Thank you baby. Someone thought what I was saying came across as bashing her, which was quite the opposite of my intentions. 😙😙😙

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20 minutes ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

Thank you baby. Someone thought what I was saying came across as bashing her, which was quite the opposite of my intentions. 😙😙😙

No I didn’t see that at all. I read the entire post from beginning to end and I felt like you were right on point. Some people only read and interpret things the way they want. I felt you were even and fair with your comments.

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50 minutes ago, stevie-2249 said:

damn is she paying you guys for these posts lol

No payment for me Stevie. I just look at it like this. Everybody has a right to make a living however they can to survive. I totally get that she has an awful history, however, if a guy sees her and gets burned he only has himself to blame for not heeding the warnings. If he sees her and has a great time, then he can count himself lucky. The choice is his.

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On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 8:36 AM, SabrinaLynn said:

Can someone help me...WHO IS THIS KATIE PERSON Boink keeps speaking on??

I think she called herself a provider but in reality, she was more like a predator. Kind of like a snake. 

There kind of fun to play with but sooner or later you'll get bitten.

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10 hours ago, tide32 said:

I think she called herself a provider but in reality, she was more like a predator. Kind of like a snake. 

There kind of fun to play with but sooner or later you'll get bitten.

Oh yes, there are many predators and snakes in this hobby and on the board. However, I was under the impression that we weren't suppose to be discussing these things on the forum. That we should go through the proper channels...reviews, mods, privately speaking with other providers and hobbiests etc. I do my best to follow the rules, even though there are many times I would like to scream out "Snake!" or "Predator!" when I see certain people post.  Is it open season on this particular girl? Or can we all just start calling out all the people we feel justified in calling out??? 

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My opinion, the board is above all a place for people to learn things, figure out if someone is for real, and to mitigate chances of having a bad meeting.  I DEFINITELY believe in second or third chances, and at the same time, if someone is lying about who there are (or were), this is worthy of being made known.  I have no ill will toward her or anyone, but also think that knowledge is power.  There's a way to say something without being vindictive - just stating a fact.  At the end of the day, despite the awesome people, conversation, etc., that's what the board is here for.

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1 hour ago, Hunter VanDyke said:

Oh yes, there are many predators and snakes in this hobby and on the board. However, I was under the impression that we weren't suppose to be discussing these things on the forum. That we should go through the proper channels...reviews, mods, privately speaking with other providers and hobbiests etc. I do my best to follow the rules, even though there are many times I would like to scream out "Snake!" or "Predator!" when I see certain people post.  Is it open season on this particular girl? Or can we all just start calling out all the people we feel justified in calling out??? 

I don't think outting people is always called for at all times but as a board member, I do feel responsable to inform my fellow members of the hazards in there path. 

Just because boink is a moderator doesn't negate his responsability to inform the others in this hobby. 

Boink is my hero. 

 

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I agree with you about letting the board know about hazards in our path, AND I wasnt saying anything negative about boink. He has been very kind to me, and I have more respect for him than I do most on this board. BUT, i thought that was what the reviews and private conversations were for, and that we weren't suppose to be getting into all this back and forth and bashing on the discussion boards.  For example, your snake/predator comment. Should I post my list of snake/predators, or should other members start posting theirs? Do her reviews under her new provider name not give enough information for any client to decide whether to see her or not? We are all adults arent we? Capable of our own research? Everyone can make up their own minds for themselves.  If I or anyone else should refrain from breaking the guidelines and rules, why does that not apply to you? There are others deserving of this treatment, yet we don't respond the same way. I personally feel a responsibility to inform others of dangerous behavior to others on this board, but I don't do it, because those are the rules. Would I be a hero if I did it anyway? It's not adding up. Why is your responsibility outweigh mine or anyone elses?

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