Posted February 4, 2018 This article made me wonder how many of the ladies (and guys) are "out" with family and friends.... https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sciortino-sex-writer_us_5a71f124e4b0ae29f08d3f4c?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009 Personally, I'm UTR. On my blue days I'm a bit ashamed that I must resort to paying for companionship, but then on the days when I'm feeling productive and autonomous, I'm kinda okay with owning what I see as the healthy eroticism that I'm allowed through paid playtime. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 4, 2018 To me this post is distasteful on so many levels. How a provider deals with her work is HER business. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, lintlizard said: This article made me wonder how many of the ladies (and guys) are "out" with family and friends.... https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sciortino-sex-writer_us_5a71f124e4b0ae29f08d3f4c?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009 Personally, I'm UTR. On my blue days I'm a bit ashamed that I must resort to paying for companionship, but then on the days when I'm feeling productive and autonomous, I'm kinda okay with owning what I see as the healthy eroticism that I'm allowed through paid playtime. I'm a divorced single dad and know how you feel. Some days I swear I'm going to quit hobbying and focus on finding a girlfriend but then I'm reminded of dating in 2018 and go back to this. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Laci French said: To me this post is distasteful on so many levels. How a provider deals with her work is HER business. Sorry, Laci, but I disagree. The poster made no judgements of anyone but himself. Neither did the author of the included link. It is an issue that faces those of us with a dual lives from time to time. I think the OP is looking for additional tools to deal with the problems 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 5, 2018 7 hours ago, lintlizard said: This article made me wonder how many of the ladies (and guys) are "out" with family and friends.... https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sciortino-sex-writer_us_5a71f124e4b0ae29f08d3f4c?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009 Personally, I'm UTR. On my blue days I'm a bit ashamed that I must resort to paying for companionship, but then on the days when I'm feeling productive and autonomous, I'm kinda okay with owning what I see as the healthy eroticism that I'm allowed through paid playtime. This actually made me a little sad to read. Please don't feel ashamed. This hobby is nothing to be ashamed about for providers or clients. I try to be open about it with my family because its important to me to be authentic and to not have to lie about something that is such a huge part of my life, and also I would like to break the stigma associated with this industry. As long as they are adults, they have the ability find a way to come to terms with it. For me it's a delicate balance though. My family does have a hard time with it, so it's not something we talk about, we all try to be respectful. I can appreciate that. I know not everyone is in the same situation as me. I'm not married and my children are all grown. Also, i would like to add...my bff is recently divorced, and he's not seeing escorts, but Boy does he pay for his companionship! Dinners every time, drinks, trips! He pays! Lol. Everyone pays honey. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 5, 2018 For me the first rule of hobbying is never talk about hobbying with anyone not in the hobby. Also the second, third and fourth rule. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Bigguy said: For me the first rule of hobbying is never talk about hobbying with anyone not in the hobby. Also the second, third and fourth rule. Same here. But I understand other people's options and circumstances. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2018 On 2/4/2018 at 1:19 PM, Bigfoot257 said: I'm a divorced single dad and know how you feel. Some days I swear I'm going to quit hobbying and focus on finding a girlfriend but then I'm reminded of dating in 2018 and go back to this. +1 on that. dating these days and at my age? My next date is with a flat spot in the woods long enough to level my camper, some uncaught fish and a few not yet open beers. is it freaking spring time yet? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2018 No, but in a couple of weeks you can park your camper in the A-Basin parking lot, catch a few turns, barbeque a bit of pig, pop those unopened beers, and think about fishing. Spring will come soon enough, what happened to winter? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2018 I'm not paying for the sex I'm paying for her to leave 😁 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 7, 2018 12 hours ago, stevie-2249 said: I'm not paying for the sex I'm paying for her to leave 😁 If you pay her enough your wife will do that too. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 8, 2018 On 2/4/2018 at 1:13 PM, lintlizard said: This article made me wonder how many of the ladies (and guys) are "out" with family and friends.... https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sciortino-sex-writer_us_5a71f124e4b0ae29f08d3f4c?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009 Personally, I'm UTR. On my blue days I'm a bit ashamed that I must resort to paying for companionship, but then on the days when I'm feeling productive and autonomous, I'm kinda okay with owning what I see as the healthy eroticism that I'm allowed through paid playtime. Quite frankly, that is a ridiculous view based on Hollywood nonsense that all REAL men should be able to go score 20 year old models even when they are 70. There's ALWAYS millions of girls you cannot have and that is no cause for shame. The hottest, fittest, sexiest man on earth won't be some ladies type for various reasons, PLUS he can't have ANY of the lesbians, OR women in happy relationships. OK...so maybe you CAN'T date women the age\look you want.....So What? I bet 75 year old grannies can't date you. Just be glad you can rent the ladies you want!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 8, 2018 This is actually a really crappy and very real situation I just went through with my career something that I have paid a lot of money and dedicated hours to build and end my life on ..I now have to pay for my p411 to be UTR, take my phone numbers down, take my somewhat blurred face down and possibly get a new p411 ID number all because a gentleman could not keep his cool in public.At my job!!. The risks we take. It should always be expected and sucks when it happens.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Chrissy said: This is actually a really crappy and very real situation I just went through with my career something that I have paid a lot of money and dedicated hours to build and end my life on ..I now have to pay for my p411 to be UTR, take my phone numbers down, take my somewhat blurred face down and possibly get a new p411 ID number all because a gentleman could not keep his cool in public.At my job!!. The risks we take. It should always be expected and sucks when it happens.. So sorry that happened Chrissy! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) I feel kinda strongly about this dilemma that so many struggle with. Sure it’s my business how I deal with it as Laci said...but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t like to share. The thing that drives connection is vulnerability and the thing that drives disconnection is...Shame. It’s very displeasing to me that people are just so goddamned shocked if I share that my parents and nearly all my friends know what I do and are not excluding me from the “circle of trust” because of it. I moved a parent up here for the purpose of taking care of them day to day. I told her what my deal is before putting her in a position she had the right to not want to be around at all. I told my parents about this years ago after some creep in my home state tried to blackmail me into letting him stop by at any time. Ugh, fucking bastard even had the nerve to tell me “and you’ll always be ready to take my load and you better not need to shower first either.” Uh—yeah fckn right. My parents hated that guy a lot more than they hated anything I’ve ever done. They were just glad I felt that they loved me enough to share such a touchy situation with them and get help. When he did contact my dad to “out” me, I had already taken his power away and my dad said that he knew and that he’d be more than happy to take him (the creep) out if he ever came near me or called again. Shit felt good, I must say I think us ladies do such a very cool thing for anyone we agree to see, and that too many guys STILL treat their time with us as something they “struggle” with and consider a bad habit to be fought off internally. There are very few of y’all that truly “need to stop this shit” and rise above hobby stuff. The ones that do are more the type that can’t resist blowin ALL their money on it, can’t treat a woman with respect to save the world and are kinda addicted to causing stress to or hurting women, or who are otherwise chronically disruptive and can’t avoid causing all kinds of fallout from meeting with us. All kinds of good normal men consider this stuff a weakness, and being with a gentleman who won’t shut up about how guilty and shitty he feels about this is a complete fckn drag. Meanwhile the real issue is not even considered, and the real problems are brought on by the ones who are just too unbalanced and can’t do this in a healthier way no matter what they do. Unfortunately, you never seem to hear those guys say they need to stop hassling nice women and get some manners, they just tend to be fine with it including their unneeded bs at 3 am. I’m glad to see how some men care about being better people and not giving up on themselves altogether but that doesn’t mean I should have to feel like a poisonous person who would only be there ready to cause ruin and mayhem unless y’all beat this horrific addiction. Being in the position to HAVE TO PAY is not accurate, no one HAS TO do anything and the fact is someone CHOOSES to pay and usually the end goal is to AVOID BULLSHIT, plain and simple. No one put you guys in this position and I respect the ones who own their decisions and just admit they don’t want a girlfriend who has all these other needs they don’t wanna be expected to deal with. No shame in that. The only time anyone HAS TO PAY, is when you owe me and that’s a little too late to be second guessing yourself and examining your values to determine if you should be doing his (horrible and shameful) thing. It’s not nice for either of us to deal with and it’s not going to get us any closer to being considered normal rather than shameful. I don’t keep this from guys I date, my friends, my favorite waitress, nobody I can tell really. I only save the secrecy for cops, landlords, or my probation officer. One day maybe more people will be able to do this without lying to all the people that they are trying to be liked and loved by. Remember everyone, Shame is THE cause of disconnection. Edited February 10, 2018 by TrystinTrimble Walls of text 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
