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Overnights, Your Opinion Please.

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2 hours ago, Admiral C said:

I think I will TOFTT here and say what nobody else is stupid enough to say. As a happily single man, I have ZERO interest in paying a lady to sleep in my bed  with me. While an overnight "might" be of interest to me, I would be a nightmare client.  I want to get down...get nasty...have drinks...stay up....get it on, til the break of dawn. Sleep? Not likely. I'm thinking that if a girl knew THAT going in, it would be a different rate than an overnight with 6-8 hours of sleepage...snoring and "the jimmy-legs" notwithstanding. Don't get me wrong...even though I pay, the dough, ray, mi, I try to make my playmate have a leg shaking good time...HOWEVER...I'm not a moron. Although I am a better looking 55+ than most my age,  the ladies I would book would still NEVER waste time on me without a fee. Overnights? Great idea for guys with enough money that money is irrelevant. Great for the lady...( unless the guy is an all night party and grinder like me). However, for the most part, it is likely non-optimal. Moderately interesting to imagine though.

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4 hours ago, Admiral C said:

I think I will TOFTT here and say what nobody else is stupid enough to say. As a happily single man, I have ZERO interest in paying a lady to sleep in my bed  with me. While an overnight "might" be of interest to me, I would be a nightmare client.  ...

No TOFTT involved here. You have the self awareness to recognize that this type of engagement is not for you, and why. 👍

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Overnights can be fun....with the right lady.  It has to be someone you know and like, and who you think likes you as a client.

Perfect recipe for me:

Meet mid-late afternoon.  Round 1 of playtime.

4-5pmish, go get cleaned up...go do something fun, go out to dinner. Back to home/hotel by 8 or 9. Take about an hour break. I might leave the hotel room.  Or she might.  She needs time to check her email, maybe check up on kids, decompress.  She might desperately need to doodle some sketches of me with an icepick sticking out of my eye.  Stuff like that.

Clean up and then its the bed-time round of playtime. Afterwards, it is bedtime.  As others have said, actually sleeping with the lady will be difficult.  She has her quirks and I have mine.  If sharing a room, I try to make sure there are two beds.  If she has a room to retreat to....even better....in fact, if she has her own room, you may be able to skip the hour break mentioned above, and then get to round 2 and bedtime earlier.

Morning brings morning wood.  Don't hit her with the log right away.  Different people wake differently.  Give her her space, and go get coffee for the two of you.  If there is time for a 3rd morning round of playtime ,  great. Go get brunch and then kiss her goodbye.

 

Expectations are important, and for bigger ticket items you should discuss expectations completely.  Sleeping arrangements.  Amount of sex. Downtime.  And PRICE. If you don't discuss all these things ahead of time, one or both of you will be disappointed with one or more aspects of the date. IF YOU DON'T THINK YOU CAN  NEGOTIATE ALL THIS WITH HER AHEAD OF TIME....SHE IS NOT THE GIRL TO DO THIS WITH.

I have had a few overnights and they are fun.  The downtime aspect for the provider is very important.....she is being paid to be fun and bubbly, and this can be very difficult to do for long stretches of time....especially if other stuff is going on in her life.

I would expect the above described session to go for $1,600 to $2,400, plus all expenses.  That is the price range I have experienced when having booked them in the past.  However, logistics associated with getting to the venue selected can affect the perfect schedule described above.

 

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Last request to has obviously a scammer... I'd prefer to meet and then if they are for real figure out the details. i quote the amount I would need or want for that night or weekend overall. 

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I'ld hate to wake up to half of my stuff gone,so no total strangers as overnights in my house,unless a blizzard happens during playtime. That said, can see why some guys would like arm and bed candy for trips to Vegas,NYS etc etc.

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On 11/23/2017 at 6:13 AM, Yorick said:

Overnights can be fun....with the right lady.  It has to be someone you know and like, and who you think likes you as a client.

Perfect recipe for me:

Meet mid-late afternoon.  Round 1 of playtime.

4-5pmish, go get cleaned up...go do something fun, go out to dinner. Back to home/hotel by 8 or 9. Take about an hour break. I might leave the hotel room.  Or she might.  She needs time to check her email, maybe check up on kids, decompress.  She might desperately need to doodle some sketches of me with an icepick sticking out of my eye.  Stuff like that.

Clean up and then its the bed-time round of playtime. Afterwards, it is bedtime.  As others have said, actually sleeping with the lady will be difficult.  She has her quirks and I have mine.  If sharing a room, I try to make sure there are two beds.  If she has a room to retreat to....even better....in fact, if she has her own room, you may be able to skip the hour break mentioned above, and then get to round 2 and bedtime earlier.

Morning brings morning wood.  Don't hit her with the log right away.  Different people wake differently.  Give her her space, and go get coffee for the two of you.  If there is time for a 3rd morning round of playtime ,  great. Go get brunch and then kiss her goodbye.

 

Expectations are important, and for bigger ticket items you should discuss expectations completely.  Sleeping arrangements.  Amount of sex. Downtime.  And PRICE. If you don't discuss all these things ahead of time, one or both of you will be disappointed with one or more aspects of the date. IF YOU DON'T THINK YOU CAN  NEGOTIATE ALL THIS WITH HER AHEAD OF TIME....SHE IS NOT THE GIRL TO DO THIS WITH.

I have had a few overnights and they are fun.  The downtime aspect for the provider is very important.....she is being paid to be fun and bubbly, and this can be very difficult to do for long stretches of time....especially if other stuff is going on in her life.

I would expect the above described session to go for $1,600 to $2,400, plus all expenses.  That is the price range I have experienced when having booked them in the past.  However, logistics associated with getting to the venue selected can affect the perfect schedule described above.

 

I agree... I have done a few overnights.... they're usually with clients I've seen prior and have already done multi hours with to see if we get along.... preferring to cuddle same bed options(king size) are nice...personally prefer overnights with one person then seeing 7 different clients....morning WAKE UPS are ALWAYS WELCOMED....

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3 hours ago, JRWolfe said:

I'ld hate to wake up to half of my stuff gone, so no total strangers as overnights in my house,unless a blizzard happens during playtime. That said, can see why some guys would like arm and bed candy for trips to Vegas,NYS etc etc.

Better not get married either.

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On 11/21/2017 at 2:29 PM, SultryKitten said:

Lately, I have been getting a lot of interest about having more than 4 hours up to 4 days of "time and companionship" and questions on how much. So I went perusing through other ladies websites, and what I feel is the average pricing...took out my handy dandy calculator and realized that the longer we spend with a client, we are way undercharging per hour to spend time and companionship with a client. Why?

Thoughts? Should I maintain that too or ask for what I feel is fair due to me having to spend what I feel is a "true GFE"  with someone for an extended period.

 

Interesting post (though I narrowed down the quote) and responses. There was a longtime and I believe well-respected provider here that used to advertise overnights at somewhere around the equivalent of 3 hours at the normal rate. I always thought she must enjoy them and be encouraging gents to do overnights with that pricing structure. I assume the YLs think about these things when structuring prices. Some apparently don't like 90 minute appointments since they price 90 minutes as more than the the total of a 30 and 60 minute. You can think of it as a discount which carries a negative connotation or think of it as encouraging behavior for which you prefer. If sharing the grumpy morning is not your preference, set a rate that would make you okay with enduring pre-coffee contact, establish rules that make you comfortable with it, or both. The rate might well be a premium!

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I thought "time and companionship" was a euphemism for fucking that was used in an attempt to shield oneself from LE. So if "time and companionship" is artificial, then wouldn't/shouldn't pricing be determined by the amount of fucking going on? I'm an old fart who can't bang over and over again, no matter how beautiful my bedmate. I'd be paying for travel, meals, sightseeing, relaxing, free time for the gal, and whatever else is required of a "vacation." And you want to charge me by the hour? If I offered you $5k to spend two weeks with me in Hawaii, would you accept?

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35 minutes ago, Blue-eyedTraveler said:

I thought "time and companionship" was a euphemism for fucking that was used in an attempt to shield oneself from LE. So if "time and companionship" is artificial, then wouldn't/shouldn't pricing be determined by the amount of fucking going on? I'm an old fart who can't bang over and over again, no matter how beautiful my bedmate. I'd be paying for travel, meals, sightseeing, relaxing, free time for the gal, and whatever else is required of a "vacation." And you want to charge me by the hour? If I offered you $5k to spend two weeks with me in Hawaii, would you accept?

If the money spent is just for fucking then would you mind if your date was only around for the fucking part? Time and companionship are definitely part of the deal. And part of booking extended dates is that you pick up the travel tab, why not also want to pay her fee on top of it? 

Work is still work even if it's two weeks in Hawaii. Let's say for the sake of the argument a lady makes 7k a week. Are you thinking it's fair that she give up 9k worth of income because you're paying for the room? Most providers are willing to offer a substantially lower rate for longer visits as long as a profit is still made. 

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1 hour ago, Blue-eyedTraveler said:

I thought "time and companionship" was a euphemism for fucking that was used in an attempt to shield oneself from LE. So if "time and companionship" is artificial, then wouldn't/shouldn't pricing be determined by the amount of fucking going on? I'm an old fart who can't bang over and over again, no matter how beautiful my bedmate. I'd be paying for travel, meals, sightseeing, relaxing, free time for the gal, and whatever else is required of a "vacation." And you want to charge me by the hour? If I offered you $5k to spend two weeks with me in Hawaii, would you accept?

5K for 2 weeks, you can only rock and roll once a day, and you are paying travel, hotel (separate room please), and meals .............. hell I might go for that deal!  Course I could get a couple weeks vacation off from real life job, have no short people to support (and do what with for two weeks?), no SO, no pets to board, no elderly family to care for, no ....... yeah.  Hope you get the picture.  Could be anywhere from an attractive deal for someone with no obligations all the way up to impossible for many.  There are as many different circumstances as there are escorts and johns.  Which is why these generic fee assertions are silly.

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1 hour ago, Blue-eyedTraveler said:

I thought "time and companionship" was a euphemism for fucking that was used in an attempt to shield oneself from LE. So if "time and companionship" is artificial, then wouldn't/shouldn't pricing be determined by the amount of fucking going on? I'm an old fart who can't bang over and over again, no matter how beautiful my bedmate. I'd be paying for travel, meals, sightseeing, relaxing, free time for the gal, and whatever else is required of a "vacation." And you want to charge me by the hour? If I offered you $5k to spend two weeks with me in Hawaii, would you accept?

"Time and Companionship" is literally what it says...TIME you are spending with ME, and COMPANIONSHIP which can be laughing, drinking, eating, cuddling, etc basically anything you do with a COMPANION. That means form the moment you are engaging time and my companionship, it is worth the rate I state whether it is $200 for one hour, up to 5K for a week(or whatever we decide to charge depending on the scenario).  Getting any nookie during this time is up to our consent, and based on what we have agreed to do. Even if it is implied  on adult boards, it is never guaranteed.

See, this is the problem with the "moral citizens", politicians, police, FEDS is that they believe this is all just about sex when what we do is so much more.  When people start seeing that we are more than just a lay, we can start changing opinions about what we do. These kind of comments seriously put a bad taste in my mouth. -_-

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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17 minutes ago, Lucy Kitten said:

If the money spent is just for fucking then would you mind if your date was only around for the fucking part? Time and companionship are definitely part of the deal. And part of booking extended dates is that you pick up the travel tab, why not also want to pay her fee on top of it? 

Work is still work even if it's two weeks in Hawaii. Let's say for the sake of the argument a lady makes 7k a week. Are you thinking it's fair that she give up 9k worth of income because you're paying for the room? Most providers are willing to offer a substantially lower rate for longer visits as long as a profit is still made. 

Lucy, I believe you are aware that I agree with you not always but certainly more often than not.  But really?  Did not the train wreck thread still chugging along say that business is bad and it is hard to make a living ,,,,,,,,,,,,, ??  7K a week?  And there is the problem - how is a guy to know what a "profit" is when he has NO realistic idea how much she makes per week? (And I do NOT want to know - it is none of my frickin' business)  So as always - I would ask, she tells me how much, I agree or move on.  The problem comes in when either side tries to justify why the fee is not right.  Give her what she wants if it is worth it to you or move on.

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12 minutes ago, SultryKitten said:

 

See, this is the problem with the "moral citizens", politicians, police, FEDS is that they believe this is all just about sex when what we do is so much more.  When people start seeing that we are more than just a lay, we can start changing opinions about what we do. These kind of comments seriously put a bad taste in my mouth. -_-

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

Do not lose sight of fact that to some us the ladies are more and the ladies we return to see are MUCH more than just lays.  Or I would not return.

Bad taste ......... hey I eat lots of pineapple!  Oh, wait comments, not ...... never mind. :D

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58 minutes ago, gr8owl said:

Lucy, I believe you are aware that I agree with you not always but certainly more often than not.  But really?  Did not the train wreck thread still chugging along say that business is bad and it is hard to make a living ,,,,,,,,,,,,, ??  7K a week?  And there is the problem - how is a guy to know what a "profit" is when he has NO realistic idea how much she makes per week? (And I do NOT want to know - it is none of my frickin' business)  So as always - I would ask, she tells me how much, I agree or move on.  The problem comes in when either side tries to justify why the fee is not right.  Give her what she wants if it is worth it to you or move on.

The 5k number he threw out there was arbitrary. The point I was trying to make is that the offer has to make a profit and giving a reason why someone might turn down 5k for two weeks in Hawaii. Extended dates are tricky, some clients think that it's doing us a favor to pay for a trip when they want our company. The post I commented on was a general statement about extended visits as was this thread. I am saying that anyone should know what a provider takes home every week but even if it was two weeks in Hawaii would you take a huge pay cut knowing you still had to work? That's what I am saying. 

Some times it's just takes a little math. Two weeks for 5k working pretty much 24hrs a day, because you have to be on, that's almost 15 an hour. If you knock off 8 hours for sleeping you bump it up to 22 an hour. Does that seem profitable to you? Long dates are complicated and can be a conversation separate from that other train wreck thread. 

 

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59 minutes ago, Lucy Kitten said:

... I am  saying that anyone should know what a provider takes home every week ..

 

The point in selecting a "friend" for this type of adventure is that she does not have to be 'ON' 24/7, or even 16/7.  It's also much more fun if you include her in the planning, if you make sure that she enjoys most of the activities. 

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I'm with all the other ladies on this one...I would be more willing to talk overnights with regulars then someone that i've only seen a few times! In my stories i've heard the regulars are the first ones to turn! t know just things that i've heard!

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50 minutes ago, Bit Banger said:

The point in selecting a "friend" for this type of adventure is that she does not have to be 'ON' 24/7, or even 16/7.  It's also much more fun if you include her in the planning, if you make sure that she enjoys most of the activities. 

It's work no matter how you slice it and yes you do kind of have to be on all the time. Your not free to be entirely yourself because it was your persona that was hired. Weird habits are hidden routines ignored. Even being with people I really really like it can be exhausting spending so much time with them. 

On a true vacation of my own I don't have to worry about sleeping in or eating the wrong foods and spending the night with intestinal distress. 

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52 minutes ago, Lucy Kitten said:

It's work no matter how you slice it and yes you do kind of have to be on all the time. Your not free to be entirely yourself because it was your persona that was hired. Weird habits are hidden routines ignored. Even being with people I really really like it can be exhausting spending so much time with them. 

On a true vacation of my own I don't have to worry about sleeping in or eating the wrong foods and spending the night with intestinal distress. 

I have been on many overnight dates, easily over 20. These have varied from 12, 24, 36 hours, 2 days, and a three day dates.

I have only experienced 2 that were not good experiences. One was a first time date. The other was with a lady that we already experienced an overnight. There were also a few dates that yea the chemistry wasn't really there. But we managed to forge through and make it as fun as possible. And then there were many that were amazing experiences! Many of these dates we ended up extending our dates on the spot. And some that we decided we really had to see each other for another longer date ASAP!  Which meant with in that week. Chemistry is something that can't be misinterpreted.

All I want is a lady to be them self. Be comfortable and shed the persona of this world. Give me the real everyday you. This is something that I always discuss prior to setting up something. There is never a guarantee even discussing this before hand. And if the lady feels like it's too much pressure or is uncomfortable with a longer date. Then I'm cool with them being honest with them self and not continuing the possibility.

I have found that if women are open to a fun experience. Then it usually naturally happens. And I understand that we are not all hardwired this way. I also don't have great expectations. I'm not demanding. I am a guy that is outgoing, fun, "normal", and a complete extrovert. It's easy for me to get along with most everyone. In a sense these are just short dates for me! It also makes me happy when a lady recognizes that I'm really a genuinely good guy that has no crazy or outlandish motives. And  all I want is it to be a positive fun experience! Because these should be fun!

I also really do my homework! I read reviews. Also a persons persona is so key. How does she/he respond on these boards. Is she/he verbally active in the community. What does she/he have to say. What is her/his interaction with the community. How is our personal conversations when communicating. And it's usually apparent with pm's and emails how much of a connection there is between us. I've also had a couple of ladies that wanted me to call them and talk to them personally. Just to see who I was. Was I dry? Was I easy to communicate with? Am I humorous? Did we click? Using their intuition.

Donations is a whole other issue. I never haggle. I check to see if she has rates posted for overnights. If not then I ask them if they entertain longer dates because I would really be interested! Then we go through the process of how long for what sum.

Sleep is usually always discussed. More so what their expectation is. I know I value sleep! And if the chemistry is awesome. Cuddling and kissing a lady like a SO is very rewarding! It's also always amazing how this issue of a specific sleep timeframe sometimes goes right out the window. Because in the end we are just wanting to experience each others company! And if we end up not making it to our dinner reservation, or we don't make it out to the nights planned event. Then it means we are mutually enjoying each others company! Also I've had several dates where the attraction was so intense. We never left the bedroom. It wasn't anticipated or planned. But something that just naturally happened!  Ordering out or grub hub is a blessing in these times. Or sometimes we just showered up. Grabed a quick bite to eat. Or went to the grocery store. Then come back home and get naked all over again. And these are the many types of dates that I've personally experienced. It wasn't a challenge. We were just two people being themselves and the date wasn't work nor stressful! It really comes down to who you are as an individual. Do you have the capacity to be open and I suppose vulnerable? I know I have no persona to keep up. I certainly don't pressure a lady to keep up an unrealistic image. We all burp. We all fart. We are all human. I just hope people who want to experience overnight dates are open for a fun adventure! It's the one reason that I keep coming back to the Hotel California!!!!!

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This is the irony. Logged into another board. Had a reputable lady approach me for a longer date in the very near future. Really not trying to be vain. But I really think it's what you put out there as a person in the community. She mentioned my reviews. Ladies responses. And the vouches I have on that board.

Overnights aren't for everyone. But find someone excited for the same experience. And they usually are a ton of fun!!

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9 hours ago, Lucy Kitten said:

It's work no matter how you slice it and yes you do kind of have to be on all the time. Your not free to be entirely yourself because it was your persona that was hired. Weird habits are hidden routines ignored. Even being with people I really really like it can be exhausting spending so much time with them. 

On a true vacation of my own I don't have to worry about sleeping in or eating the wrong foods and spending the night with intestinal distress. 

If your 'on duty' persona is significantly different from your 'self',  then you are not the gal I'm looking for. (The head games this invokes are a different topic.). Extended dates should not be your thing. I want you to be comfortable enough with me to eat what you want, be sick as a dog, and even sleep in if OUR schedule permits. As Parkercole said, we're all human.

Overnights? Too many to count. Some have been better than others, but on the whole successful. So far I've had good travel dates which vary from 1-6 weeks. 

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It is as always a ymmv depending on you and the client.  I do this often. I do this with the guys I have met. Not with a brand new client.  These ":dates you do with people whom you have connected with. I have one client whom when we travel together we are like a couple who have been together a long time. We quickly fall in sync. We have a great time  together, break bread, sleep, shower , fuck, etc. When we get back to Denver , or I hit the airport  we both quickly and easily slide  back into -single me. 

You can't do this with the 1st time client. You don't know if they fart alot. Or pick their nose, or any other sort of human foible. Night owl, or early bed/ early rise. For over night, or extended stay/trips you damn well better be  liking each other as people . Definitely for extended dates.  The dynamics involved are there. As are the boundaries.  My longest  "date" was 6 weeks. It was a vbery successful  , fun time.   But as I stated, I would not do this with someone I had only met once.. And you cannot possibly charge by the hour while doing this. There is not a pussy in the world that is worth a six week paid for every waking/ sleeping moment. Get real. about your fee.  And negotiate. 

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3 hours ago, Jez UaBriain said:

It is as always a ymmv depending on you and the client.  I do this often. I do this with the guys I have met. Not with a brand new client.  These ":dates you do with people whom you have connected with. I have one client whom when we travel together we are like a couple who have been together a long time. We quickly fall in sync. We have a great time  together, break bread, sleep, shower , fuck, etc. When we get back to Denver , or I hit the airport  we both quickly and easily slide  back into -single me. 

You can't do this with the 1st time client. You don't know if they fart alot. Or pick their nose, or any other sort of human foible. Night owl, or early bed/ early rise. For over night, or extended stay/trips you damn well better be  liking each other as people . Definitely for extended dates.  The dynamics involved are there. As are the boundaries.  My longest  "date" was 6 weeks. It was a vbery successful  , fun time.   But as I stated, I would not do this with someone I had only met once.. And you cannot possibly charge by the hour while doing this. There is not a pussy in the world that is worth a six week paid for every waking/ sleeping moment. Get real. about your fee.  And negotiate. 

I agree 100%.  You don't do an overnight or extended date with someone you barely know.

There has to be chemistry between both of you or the date will be awkward and stressful and it will seem like the lady is on a job and you are just a client.

Both of you have to be like friends so you both enjoy the date. Otherwise it will be a disaster.

You have to make sure the other person is a people person who enjoys being with other people and you both have similar tastes and interests. 

Some men and some ladies should never do an overnight or extended date. An unfortunate fact, but true. 

I got lucky and the few I have done have been the most enjoyable times of my life. 

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1 minute ago, Bit Banger said:

If your 'on duty' persona is significantly different from your 'self',  then you are not the gal I'm looking for. (The head games this invokes are a different topic.). Extended dates should not be your thing. I want you to be comfortable enough with me to eat what you want, be sick as a dog, and even sleep in if OUR schedule permits. As Parkercole said, we're all human.

Overnights? Too many to count. Some have been better than others, but on the whole successful. So far I've had good travel dates which vary from 1-6 weeks. 

I'm not talking about acting I am talking about preservation. My personal self isn't up for grabs. Will I share interests and personal anecdotes sure but there is a reason why persona's are kept separate. I have had plenty of successful extended states. I've been flown from coast to coast. Maybe I'm not for you (which we've already established) but that doesn't mean that overnights are not for me. 

Length of session doesn't make it less work. Nor does having that connection. I know it's shocking and it seems dishonest but you'd be amazed what a provider would agree to do for larger sums of money. No she really didn't want to go the Museum of Manhole Covers but she was happy to because you wanted to. Yes we're all human but we providers are professional too. I tend to think that overnights aren't for the people who attach too much emotion to it. People who get prickly when I call my job work aren't for me. 

Calling it work doesn't cheapen the time together. Being a professional means that you can have a great time with someone who wants your company sans that "connection". The whole point of the persona in the first place is to attract the clients you want and keep away the clients you don't. I'm not uncomfortable in the extended dates that I choose but I think you're in denial if you think there isn't work and a lot of compromise that goes into spending a weekend or month with someone who is paying you. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Lucy Kitten said:

I'm not talking about acting I am talking about preservation. My personal self isn't up for grabs. ...

 

Be thankful you have a job where you can trot out a different persona every day, or even every appointment. 

On a 9-5, 40-60hrs/wk, your co-workers would see through them in no time.  So much for self-preservation. 

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