Laci French

If sexual styles are just completely different...

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1 minute ago, Bit Banger said:

But Laci did not present this as a safety issue. A 'meh' client may be "work" and not fun, but not every client is going to be Dirk Digler.  We sometimes (or often try to) forget that this is a job for the ladies. It pays the bills & puts food on the table.  With every job comes some drudgery. It's not fun, but it's truth.

As Lucy said, in personal life kick the duds to the curb, but for work - suck it up. {pun intended}

So....real world example from a Nebraska provider I have seen many times, who offers GFE with DFK.

Has a client visit her.  First time, DFK....he sticks his tongue in her mouth and just leaves it there.  No motion....no caressing with the lips....just some guy hanging on to her for dear life with his tongue laying in her mouth like some dead giant slug.  She tries working with him...tries to get him to improve technique....tells him to go home and practice rolling grapes around in his mouth with his tongue.

Actually accepts another appointment from the guy. 2nd appointment....same dead slug in her mouth....the guy is hanging on even more tightly...

She finally figures out that this is nothing more than a "passive-aggressive power play" by this guy.  She throws half of his money back at him and kicks his sorry ass out with a few choice words. 

Now, she gave it a go with a "meh" client.  Ended up being an enabler.  A job is a job, I agree, but there are limits.  We make fun of bad clients and bosses with shows like "The Office", but some of the things these ladies put up with is a lot more personal.....and a lot of it is not just guys who are "meh" or unskilled or uncouth.....it is intentional.

 

So, my personal plea to the ladies:  if I am doing something poorly or just plain grossing you out, PLEASE say something!  I may go home and cry in my pillow later, but I will do everything in my power at that moment to right the wrong.

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48 minutes ago, ilovewomen said:

After reading the replies to Laci on this thread, I am amazed.  For years everyone says the ladies has a right to do what they want that she feels is right for her, no matter what.

Laci asks an honest question...How do you handle a situation where the gentlemen and the lady are completely incompatible.

And what are the replies she gets??  Her feelings don't matter...because he is paying her, she has to fuck him.

What hypocrisy is being written here.

A lady has every right to determine who she spends time with.,,,no matter what or what.

 

You are right, we do have every right to say and do what we want, BUT depending on the situation that we are in, it can be very delicate trying to tell some guy to get the fuck out.

I can't count how many dudes I have that are really nice, pass screening, then come in and are asses by thinking I am some porn star(which I am not). Instead of going postal, I do the job and write him on my list to never see again. Some guys can be pretty aggressive, and we have to determine how to handle the situation. It isn't a fun gamble to take when someone is expecting to get something that they paid for. That is why you hear a lot about ladies giving the money back because it is easier then telling some guy he owes you for the hour it took just to get ready even though he isn't compatible.

This is the sucky part of the biz, but it is one we expect to have happen on occasion. It isn't disregarding her feelings. It is a reality that she knows exist.

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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I would never say get the fuck out. That’s not at all the person I am. 

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1 hour ago, ilovewomen said:

After reading the replies to Laci on this thread, I am amazed.  For years everyone says the ladies has a right to do what they want that she feels is right for her, no matter what.

Laci asks an honest question...How do you handle a situation where the gentlemen and the lady are completely incompatible.

And what are the replies she gets??  Her feelings don't matter...because he is paying her, she has to fuck him.

What hypocrisy is being written here.

A lady has every right to determine who she spends time with.,,,no matter what or what.

 

 I really don't see where anyone aside from the troll told her to suck it up, they offered their opinions on the information given. I replied to you, your question was about if the guy was a dud in bed and the title of the thread is about sexual styles so the replies don't seem outrageous. 

If there was a threat to safety mentioned obviously different replies but that's not how I interpreted the question and it looks like I wasn't the only one.  I think most of us got the impression that the question was, was it OK to kick someone out of bed because you don't like the way they buck. As a paid professional unless someone was a threat to my safety or just a complete dick no I wouldn't kick them out. 

There is no hypocrisy honest answers were given to the question that was asked. I didn't see anyone set out to intentionally hurt anyone's feelings and I think there's a difference between being outright mean and not liking the answers that were given to a question asked. 

Everyone has a right to choose who they want to see but not at the expense of "no matter what". There are a variety of reasons that a lady can refuse to see someone that aren't reasonable but she has that choice. 

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1 hour ago, Bit Banger said:

But Laci did not present this as a safety issue. A 'meh' client may be "work" and not fun, but not every client is going to be Dirk Digler.  We sometimes (or often try to) forget that this is a job for the ladies. It pays the bills & puts food on the table.  With every job comes some drudgery. It's not fun, but it's truth.

As Lucy said, in personal life kick the duds to the curb, but for work - suck it up. {pun intended}

At no point was this thread ever about safety...YOU ARE PUTTING WORDS INTO WHAT I WROTE.  Too bad you and all the others with PUT UP WITH IT attitude don't understand what this thread is about.

 

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2 hours ago, Bit Banger said:

But Laci did not present this as a safety issue. A 'meh' client may be "work" and not fun, but not every client is going to be Dirk Digler.  We sometimes (or often try to) forget that this is a job for the ladies. It pays the bills & puts food on the table.  With every job comes some drudgery. It's not fun, but it's truth.

As Lucy said, in personal life kick the duds to the curb, but for work - suck it up. {pun intended}

Normally I am entertained by 2Big, and usually agree with Bit, but I have to strongly disagree with both in this case.  It is my understanding that we pay a certain amount of $$$ to a lady for her time and companionship.  If something else happens between two consenting adults, that is between them.  I read Laci's post as inquiring into what a lady is to do if she just can't consent to that particular gentleman (and, since I personally know Laci, I can only presume it is entirely the gentleman's fault in this particular case).

I am of the opinion that all laws still apply when two consenting adults decide to exchange cash for time and companionship, including all sexual assault and rape laws.  If she ain't consenting, then my opinion is that she has every right to refuse to engage in any activities.  To go directly to her question, in my opinion, if a young lady decides that she does not consent to provide time and companionship to a gentleman, she should refund the money and firmly ask him to leave.  There is no obligation to provide anything further.

I would guess that Laci's initial post used the diplomatic term "sexual styles" being incompatible to mean that he was insisting on activities not on the menu, or was in some other way being a boor - in my opinion, if she is uncomfortable, she should tell him to leave.

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34 minutes ago, BadBoy said:

Normally I am entertained by 2Big, and usually agree with Bit, but I have to strongly disagree with both in this case.  It is my understanding that we pay a certain amount of $$$ to a lady for her time and companionship.  If something else happens between two consenting adults, that is between them.  I read Laci's post as inquiring into what a lady is to do if she just can't consent to that particular gentleman (and, since I personally know Laci, I can only presume it is entirely the gentleman's fault in this particular case).

I am of the opinion that all laws still apply when two consenting adults decide to exchange cash for time and companionship, including all sexual assault and rape laws.  If she ain't consenting, then my opinion is that she has every right to refuse to engage in any activities.  To go directly to her question, in my opinion, if a young lady decides that she does not consent to provide time and companionship to a gentleman, she should refund the money and firmly ask him to leave.  There is no obligation to provide anything further.

I would guess that Laci's initial post used the diplomatic term "sexual styles" being incompatible to mean that he was insisting on activities not on the menu, or was in some other way being a boor - in my opinion, if she is uncomfortable, she should tell him to leave.

Well stated.  If your looking for a Westworld robot, you may want to take a real slumber because we are still dealing with people here.  Comparing this to a typical 'job' that ladies just need to suck it up is utterly ridiculous.   

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5 hours ago, Bit Banger said:

But Laci did not present this as a safety issue. A 'meh' client may be "work" and not fun, but not every client is going to be Dirk Digler.  We sometimes (or often try to) forget that this is a job for the ladies. It pays the bills & puts food on the table.  With every job comes some drudgery. It's not fun, but it's truth.

As Lucy said, in personal life kick the duds to the curb, but for work - suck it up. {pun intended}

I am amazed and appalled at the same time as to the total disrespect given to Laci and for that matter all of the Ladies. 

"Suck it up..pun intended", REALLY? These women provide a service, yes it is a chosen profession. And yes, there isn't any job out there that doesn't have bad moments or days. But that doesn't mean one has to surrender their own integrity under the belief "the customer is always right" or "I was told to". It is their business, their bodies, their minds. They get to run it as they see fit to meet their needs. Monetarily, physically, and yes emotionally.

Laci asked a simple yet complicated question. Simple in was it right? Complicated because of who she is,and her integrity. She stated what happened and how she handled it. Responses to the question should have been how YOU would feel not derogatory or attacking. Things like, "I would appreciate that" or "I would be upset/disappointed", should have been the answers, not suck it up.

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On 10/2/2017 at 8:41 AM, ilovewomen said:

No Shirt, No Shoes, No Personality...NO SERVICE!

uhh, I think you mean "no shirt, no shoes, no cervix".  ;P

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The thing is, we don't choose the gentlemen they choose us. Honestly they too don't know exactly what to expect. Not long ago I had a guy who waited a long time to see me. We where complexity different. SO I thought anyway. I choose to be honest and stop the session. I don't him I am sorry this is not working. I even gave him all his money back. I told him you need to call this girl...... she is more your style. I even gave him reference to see her. There was nothing wrong with him. But I just couldn't lie and pretend I liked or enjoyed him sexually. He need to spend his hard earned money else where. He was so upset. After he left I felt bad was thinking to myself maybe I should have lied. lol

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The problem with these kinds of questions are the overlaps between emotion, business, personal choice, etc. Telling anyone "you are not doing it for me sexually, abort"is going to STING.  The replies are going to seem hypocritical to some readers no matter what is said due to the overlaps. I will give a RHETORICAL example that would be best NOT ANSWERED !! We have discussed a scenario where the lady feels it is not working for her, stops the session, returns the clients money. However.....now suppose the CLIENT feels "it is not working for him", and wants to stop the session  and have his money returned? Again.....let's not ACTUALLY discuss that as it would likely blow up all over the place . Overlaps.

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17 minutes ago, Admiral C said:

The problem with these kinds of questions are the overlaps between emotion, business, personal choice, etc. Telling anyone "you are not doing it for me sexually, abort"is going to STING.  The replies are going to seem hypocritical to some readers no matter what is said due to the overlaps. I will give a RHETORICAL example that would be best NOT ANSWERED !! We have discussed a scenario where the lady feels it is not working for her, stops the session, returns the clients money. However.....now suppose the CLIENT feels "it is not working for him", and wants to stop the session  and have his money returned? Again.....let's not ACTUALLY discuss that as it would likely blow up all over the place . Overlaps.

This is a good question, with no easy answers.  CAVEAT EMPTOR is king.  This is the wild west with no laws....only your own personal honor. 

However, I personally believe there is a crucial moment right at the start of the session where a guy has a choice whether or not to get on the roller coaster.  Once he has made the decision to proceed, and the safety bar is down.....he's committed and the money is spent. He has made an agreement to get the services he has paid for.  If those services are bad, he has no recourse but reviews. 

This is why Laci's response is also honorable.  She recognizes that the guy has committed to proceed and pay. She understands the unwritten contract.  If she is not capable of delivering a quality product...she will stop and refund.

It may seem like a double standard....but it is not.  It is just that the decision points arrive at different times for each party.

 

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On 10/2/2017 at 4:01 PM, comfortseeker said:

I am amazed and appalled at the same time as to the total disrespect given to Laci and for that matter all of the Ladies. 

"Suck it up..pun intended", REALLY? These women provide a service, yes it is a chosen profession. And yes, there isn't any job out there that doesn't have bad moments or days. ...

I haven't seen a lot of disrespect in this thread (except for our resident troll).  You picked up on "pun", but let's examine the word. 

PunThe pun, also called paronomasia, is a form of wordplay that exploits multiple meanings of a term, or of similar-sounding words, for an intended humorous or rhetorical effect.

I referenced a pun to lighten the mood with some humor.  You'll note that several YL also said it's part of the job.

But the elephant in the room is, "Is escorting a job like any other?"  If not, what sets it apart?

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13 hours ago, Admiral C said:

The problem with these kinds of questions are the overlaps between emotion, business, personal choice, etc. Telling anyone "you are not doing it for me sexually, abort"is going to STING.  The replies are going to seem hypocritical to some readers no matter what is said due to the overlaps. I will give a RHETORICAL example that would be best NOT ANSWERED !! We have discussed a scenario where the lady feels it is not working for her, stops the session, returns the clients money. However.....now suppose the CLIENT feels "it is not working for him", and wants to stop the session  and have his money returned? Again.....let's not ACTUALLY discuss that as it would likely blow up all over the place . Overlaps.

I'd hope the right way to phrase it is, "I don't think you're having a good time, I think I might not be the one for you to be spending your valuable time and money with..." and then take it from there!

Maybe the problem is one of styles.  Some guys are very careful, do lots of research, and hopefully make few mistakes.  Others, they just see a picture and they start texting "Hey baby, wanna wrestle?" without looking at the reviews, the style, etc. 

There's also the sex is like pizza rule.  When it's good it's great, and when it's bad, it's still pretty good...

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2 hours ago, FuriousWeasel said:

I'd hope the right way to phrase it is, "I don't think you're having a good time, I think I might not be the one for you to be spending your valuable time and money with..." and then take it from there!

Maybe the problem is one of styles.  Some guys are very careful, do lots of research, and hopefully make few mistakes.  Others, they just see a picture and they start texting "Hey baby, wanna wrestle?" without looking at the reviews, the style, etc. 

There's also the sex is like pizza rule.  When it's good it's great, and when it's bad, it's still pretty good...

This is what I thought the op meant when the question was posed. I know that this is a luxury service that can use a gentleman's entire allowance. If for some reason, we're not a match, I don't want him to feel like he wasted his time and money. These situations are very rare, but I would feel bad if a guy did not have a good time. Like I said previously, when we're not getting any kind of feedback or response, we don't know if it's due to him being shy, or maybe just conservative. I usually ask if he's ok or wants something different. 

This one has probably run its course.

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I had this happen to me yesterday. The gent met me in the past and it had been so long I forgot what he was like. Upon booking if I could have recalled him I would of opted out because our styles are so different.

I was thinking, is this hour ever going to end?

Definitely not my perception of a good time... 

When he did leave I found myself sitting there trying to wrap my mind around what the hell just happened...

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