Posted August 24, 2017 Just make sure to keep an eye out for the barracudas in the pool. There may not be many, but there is at least one (not active now as escort but still in town) that is professional grade con artist. I am sure there are others perhaps almost as cold and calculating. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2017 4 hours ago, gr8owl said: Just make sure to keep an eye out for the barracudas in the pool. There may not be many, but there is at least one (not active now as escort but still in town) that is professional grade con artist. I am sure there are others perhaps almost as cold and calculating. Just so no one leaps to erroneous conclusions the subject is NOT anyone i have mentioned on this forum or that i have reviewed and it has been a few years since she was active - escorting anyway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2017 4 hours ago, gr8owl said: Just make sure to keep an eye out for the barracudas in the pool. There may not be many, but there is at least one (not active now as escort but still in town) that is professional grade con artist. I am sure there are others perhaps almost as cold and calculating. Care to elaborate on your experience? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2017 1 hour ago, briscorp1 said: Care to elaborate on your experience? Not in detail, however briefly: Through escorting business meet obviously kind hearted guy in a vulnerable period and time, pretend to have feelings for him outside biz, encourage him to have real feelings in response to her totally fake ones, once hooked start feeding sob stories about impending tragedies and bad situations (all totally made up) that naturally only money can fix, suck him dry but not in a good way until guy wises up and presses for truth, vanish and leave guy on side of road with something protruding out between shoulder blades with shredded heart. Find next nice guy in a vulnerable time and repeat process. Zero guilt, empathy or regret. Barracuda in the pool, looking for pray. Stop!! No one need tell me I was an idiot and fool and therefore my fault. I already know that. My point was there are some really, really skilled con artists out there, so be careful out there if considering more than business. Thankfully they are rare I think - but more than one. And yes, she was p411, reviewed and blah, blah, blah. And no, I will never say who unless she un-retires and maybe not even then because strictly in session and staying away from outside con, she kicked ass, making the con even more deadly. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2017 26 minutes ago, gr8owl said: Not in detail, however briefly: Through escorting business meet obviously kind hearted guy in a vulnerable period and time, pretend to have feelings for him outside biz, encourage him to have real feelings in response to her totally fake ones, once hooked start feeding sob stories about impending tragedies and bad situations (all totally made up) that naturally only money can fix, suck him dry but not in a good way until guy wises up and presses for truth, vanish and leave guy on side of road with something protruding out between shoulder blades with shredded heart. Find next nice guy in a vulnerable time and repeat process. Zero guilt, empathy or regret. Barracuda in the pool, looking for pray. Stop!! No one need tell me I was an idiot and fool and therefore my fault. I already know that. My point was there are some really, really skilled con artists out there, so be careful out there if considering more than business. Thankfully they are rare I think - but more than one. And yes, she was p411, reviewed and blah, blah, blah. And no, I will never say who unless she un-retires and maybe not even then because strictly in session and staying away from outside con, she kicked ass, making the con even more deadly. Appreciate your sharing that. Brutal. Given the chemistry/emotions that potentially come with these encounters, I could easily see easy feeding for a skilled predator (either way). What I'm taking away from your tale is that if the lady claims to want to take things out of professional territory yet continues to treat her now-former client like an ATM, then the con is on, the game is up, the refrigerator door is closed, the lights are out, and the eggs are getting cold. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2017 @gr8owl: Thank you. Sorry to hear your tale of woe. At least you're older & wiser. There was another gent, years ago, who had a similar situation. Well reviewed YL just kept taking & taking. He self destructed by placing a little too much RWI on the board; his wife discovered his hobby. 😫 7 hours ago, briscorp1 said: ... if the lady claims to want to take things out of professional territory yet continues to treat her now-former client like an ATM, then the con is on, ... Not quite. The tell is the sob stories. I have several friends with whom I'll have lunch or dinner dates "out of professional territory", but things become professional when we move BCD. I would point out that these barracuda also swim in the dating (amateur) pool. I had a co-worker get bitten by a few, to varying extent. He finally said that he was going to demand a financial statement with asset review on the 3rd date 😚 (Or at least before they moved in.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2017 8 hours ago, gr8owl said: Not in detail, however briefly: Through escorting business meet obviously kind hearted guy in a vulnerable period and time, pretend to have feelings for him outside biz, encourage him to have real feelings in response to her totally fake ones, once hooked start feeding sob stories about impending tragedies and bad situations (all totally made up) that naturally only money can fix, suck him dry but not in a good way until guy wises up and presses for truth, vanish and leave guy on side of road with something protruding out between shoulder blades with shredded heart. Find next nice guy in a vulnerable time and repeat process. Zero guilt, empathy or regret. Barracuda in the pool, looking for pray. Stop!! No one need tell me I was an idiot and fool and therefore my fault. I already know that. My point was there are some really, really skilled con artists out there, so be careful out there if considering more than business. Thankfully they are rare I think - but more than one. And yes, she was p411, reviewed and blah, blah, blah. And no, I will never say who unless she un-retires and maybe not even then because strictly in session and staying away from outside con, she kicked ass, making the con even more deadly. I'm sorry that happened. That sucks. I think many of us have had a similar experience, and it doesn't feel good. I'll elaborate on Laci's advice: I don't think financial issues should ever be discussed in these sort of meetings. Why would they? It's supposed to be a fun service transaction. I assume my clients have their finances under control, and so should I. It's very unbecoming to hint or carry on about financial issues to clients and friends. As Dr Phil says, "you don't solve money issues by throwing money at it". There have been situations where ladies have been in accidents that have left them unable to work for 6 months, or even had a home burn down. Of course, we should help if we have capacity. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, Audrey Astor said: ... As Dr Phil says, "you don't solve money issues by throwing money at it". Remember the adage: Don't gamble more than you can afford to lose. There have been situations where ladies have been in accidents that have left them unable to work for 6 months, or even had a home burn down. Of course, we should help if we have capacity. Agreed. But many of these situations are difficult to verify. Several news stories of late about folks getting caught faking cancer. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bit Banger said: Agreed. But many of these situations are difficult to verify. Several news stories of late about folks getting caught faking cancer. You have to believe the good in people until shown different. What a sad and isolating life if we didn't😥 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2017 I fell in love through this Hobby and I live with my SO. I love him to death! When we became a couple everything changed. He no longer gave me money on a weekly basis that paid all of my bills. I walked into a real relationship and I surrendered because it was for the best for both of us. He accepts me for who I am, and I accept him for who he is. Love is one of those feelings in life that you go with and enjoy it. I love many of my clients because they are different in their own way, the variety attracts me to them. I end up caring for them. This is the love effect. Not in love, but I love you as a person and you mean alot to me. This feeling is normal right? 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Laci French said: You have to believe the good in people until shown different. What a sad and isolating life if we didn't😥 Oh, I agree. But that's exactly how one gets conned. If a group of trusted ladies held a fund raiser I'd probably be "in". Or if I took/sent her to the Dr. myself. Otherwise I'm a sceptic. One of the more difficult issues as we get older in life is TRUST.😕 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2017 22 minutes ago, Audrey Astor said: I'm sorry that happened. That sucks. I think many of us have had a similar experience, and it doesn't feel good. I'll elaborate on Laci's advice: I don't think financial issues should ever be discussed in these sort of meetings. Why would they? It's supposed to be a fun service transaction. I assume my clients have their finances under control, and so should I. It's very unbecoming to hint or carry on about financial issues to clients and friends. As Dr Phil says, "you don't solve money issues by throwing money at it". There have been situations where ladies have been in accidents that have left them unable to work for 6 months, or even had a home burn down. Of course, we should help if we have capacity. Couldn't agree more, Audrey Astor. In fact, whenever I see a lady advertising with banners like "Need Rent Help" and the like--and it's apparently serious, not tongue-in-cheek--my Catholic Guilt starts to twitch (and I'm not even Catholic), my fantasy bubble bursts with a hideous cry, and I keep scrolling. I suppose the client version of this approach to advertising would be, "Need to get laid badly!" Quite the turn-off, no? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, Laci French said: You have to believe the good in people until shown different. What a sad and isolating life if we didn't😥 If there wasn't any good in people, life would be terrible. If we no longer believe that there are good people out there, we will lead a sad and isolated life. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, Kandi Apple said: I fell in love through this Hobby and I live with my SO. I love him to death! When we became a couple everything changed. He no longer gave me money on a weekly basis that paid all of my bills. I walked into a real relationship and I surrendered because it was for the best for both of us. He accepts me for who I am, and I accept him for who he is. Love is one of those feelings in life that you go with and enjoy it. I love many of my clients because they are different in their own way, the variety attracts me to them. I end up caring for them. This is the love effect. Not in love, but I love you as a person and you mean alot to me. This feeling is normal right? I don't know what 'normal' is, Kandi Apple, but I think you are a rare and beautiful flower indeed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 25, 2017 What a great story Kandi and thanks for sharing. I hope the 2 of you keep each other happy for a very long time. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
