Olivia Rae

False Images..

Fake pictures.    84 members have voted

  1. 1. What if the pictures are for safety or security purposes? Is it still a con if the pictures are equal or equivalent to the provider?

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I find it interesting that some providers either use false pictures, or completely obscure their face, while others have no problems showing their face at all. I have always wondered about this dynamic and how providers can be so very different. I much prefer real pictures, especially candid selfies, even if the face is obscured. At times, the only issue is knowing if the face matches the body.    

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20 hours ago, coloradoguy75 said:

I find it interesting that some providers either use false pictures, or completely obscure their face, while others have no problems showing their face at all. I have always wondered about this dynamic and how providers can be so very different. I much prefer real pictures, especially candid selfies, even if the face is obscured. At times, the only issue is knowing if the face matches the body.    

Privacy. I can't afford to be found by my family, future employers or TSA. I'd love to show my mug, it's a good one and it would likely increase business but I can't feel comfortable with that when there are so many people that I have to hide my reality from.

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54 minutes ago, Lucy Kitten said:

Privacy. I can't afford to be found by my family, future employers or TSA. I'd love to show my mug, it's a good one and it would likely increase business but I can't feel comfortable with that when there are so many people that I have to hide my reality from.

Not to mean anything snarky by this, I understand family and future employers.  TSA confuses me.  Maybe my blondness is coming through 🤣🤣

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1 hour ago, Lucy Kitten said:

Privacy. I can't afford to be found by my family, future employers or TSA.

... there are so many people that I have to hide my reality from.

Unfortunately, ^^ this ^^ is reality for many. 

As I've said many times when this topic has come up before, I'm from the past where if you expected to see a visual of the YL before you booked you were picking up street walkers, strippers, or going to a brothel. Ads in print media did NOT include photos, or if they did they were stock images. 

Without a face or distinguishing marks/tattoos it is hard to tell if an image is her or representational. I can usually tell the difference between an A cup and DD, but not B & C. I can tell the difference between 100# and 250# even w/o a height scale, but I'm not a carni who can guess weight w/in 5#. Nor do I really care as long as she's HWP and fits my build requirements. Besides, what advertising photo is true reality. (My wife's previous husband was an ad agency photographer  the stories she could tell. 😄)

But with today's research tools any stock image is instantly called out as false or stolen.  I get the "some innocent being displayed on an escort board" issue and agree it's a bad thing.  As for false images being a lie, what advertising photo is true reality. (My wife's previous husband was an ad agency photographer. The stories she could tell. 😄) Which is worse, a 'stolen' photo of a European model which accurately reflects a YL's looks, or an actual photo of the YL that was taken 10 years and 50#s ago?

By all means, if who greets you at the door is not to your tastes, walk away. I'm not sure what TOB's review criteria are, but on ECCIE this (like NCNS) is not reviewable as no session took place (imho).

But if your expectation is a cuddly experience with someone who 'sort of' looks like the photos, you're more likely to have your fantasies fulfilled. 

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23 minutes ago, ilovewomen said:

Not to mean anything snarky by this, I understand family and future employers.  TSA confuses me.  Maybe my blondness is coming through 🤣🤣

I'm guessing TSA is a stand-in for all government agencies. But I can see where facial recognition software could flag an escort for boarding denial, especially on international flights. 😖

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On 8/8/2017 at 11:43 AM, Olivia Rae said:

If someone is advertising on the board, and they use images that are equivalent to their looks, features Etc. is it an issue if it is regarding safety or security for that person? Or is it just lying?  Your thoughts???

Also one key thing. "Advertising on the board" ... 

This is something, we as clients, have come to expect on backpage. Here, is the home away from ... well backpage. 

Anyone else love Sam Tarly? He's like my second favorite character. Tyrion, of course rules the 7 kingdoms, but here's a shout out to my favorite maester. 

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2 minutes ago, Vassago said:

... Anyone else love Sam Tarly? He's like my second favorite character. Tyrion, of course rules the 7 kingdoms, but here's a shout out to my favorite maester. 

Haven't seen the series. Currently reading it, about the middle of the 2nd book.

The Hound has captured my interest. Jon Snow has a great deal of complexity, too. But as you say, Tyrion rules!

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I've read all of them. Began, shit was it 10-12 years ago? It takes Martin so long to finish a book, by the time the show got out, I had to read the whole series (up to that point) again because I'd forgotten half the story.

Brienne of Tarth, The Onion Knight, and of course Tyrion were my favorites from the book. Martin had to work real hard to get me liking Jaime Lannister, but he got me there eventually. 

Really looking forward to Martin's House Targaryan series. Pretty much dying to read it. I won't hold my breath though waiting for it to come out.

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1 hour ago, Bit Banger said:

I'm guessing TSA is a stand-in for all government agencies. But I can see where facial recognition software could flag an escort for boarding denial, especially on international flights. 😖

Maybe...I can understand the desire to be anonymous and respect it.

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6 hours ago, ilovewomen said:

Not to mean anything snarky by this, I understand family and future employers.  TSA confuses me.  Maybe my blondness is coming through 🤣🤣

International traveling has been made difficult thanks to face pics. A few traveling providers have been denied entry into other countries because they have face pics on places like twitter 

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I didn't realize that was an issue.  I would think it would be more of an issue if you had a record.

I travel extensively and have never noticed facial recognition used by TSA.

I can see it used by immigration and customs agents.

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1 hour ago, Lucy Kitten said:

International traveling has been made difficult thanks to face pics. A few traveling providers have been denied entry into other countries because they have face pics on places like twitter 

     It sucks for the ladies whose face pictures are stolen,without their knowledge by escorts.  You've pointed out yet another of a  long list of reasons not to use fake pix.

 

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On 8/8/2017 at 4:16 PM, JRWolfe said:

It is STILL very much a con.      Safety and secrecy purposes...just blur your face a bit ,wear sunglasses,turn your head and let your hair hide your face,crop half your face......get a photographer that knows the tricks of the trade that ensure your security without using stolen pictures.

Olivia Rae..think about this...does using someone else's face in your ad insure their safety ? What if they are not an escort and their family sees her face on an escort ad ?

Have ink ??  ? Tattoos will give you away as fast as exposing your face..if not faster. Why get inked if you want to be "under the radar' ?

Using stolen pictures of a dead escort ??  I found someone doing just that. Photographers own rights to pictures, I just happen to know her favorite man behind the camera was..and he was instantly alerted..and the escort was  legally informed.

I should of made my question more accurate.  I never ment face pics.  Just body.

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On 8/13/2017 at 4:31 PM, Lucy Kitten said:

International traveling has been made difficult thanks to face pics. A few traveling providers have been denied entry into other countries because they have face pics on places like twitter 

Its not only International...I was actually running late to a city i was supposed to be visiting when i got a call on my working phone..It was a gentleman that worked at a hotel i was planning on staying at telling me to be careful in this city because le came in showing my ad asking if i've stayed there!  Next thing you know i'm booking another appointment in another city still in that state just about 3 hours apart, when Lord and behold, i was busted! All they could tell me was they've been looking for me.

Long story short Face pictures can be a bust sometimes and then other times they can work like a pro! Just always have bail money on hand! And DO Not TRY and Deceive anyone with pictures that look NOTHING LIKE YOU!

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57 minutes ago, SabrinaLynn said:

Its not only International...I was actually running late to a city i was supposed to be visiting when i got a call on my working phone..It was a gentleman that worked at a hotel i was planning on staying at telling me to be careful in this city because le came in showing my ad asking if i've stayed there!  Next thing you know i'm booking another appointment in another city still in that state just about 3 hours apart, when Lord and behold, i was busted! All they could tell me was they've been looking for me.

Long story short Face pictures can be a bust sometimes and then other times they can work like a pro! Just always have bail money on hand! And DO Not TRY and Deceive anyone with pictures that look NOTHING LIKE YOU!

That's some crazy stuff, and scary. I'm sorry that happened. Hotels can be so uncomfortable to use when "working", but sometimes necessary when on tour. I wonder how they connected you to your ad by your reservation. 

To answer the original op, I would say it's ok if you include a comment in your ad that the photos are "like photos". Good luck!

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I understand blurring your face or hiding your tattoos so you can't be identified, but I think using another SW photos is a bit much. 
There are so many apps and programs that allow us to edit our photos so privacy can still be maintained. 

On the other side of the coin I know people who show their full face and full body but the photos they take are so photoshopped, it looks nothing like them. I understand a little blurring or smoothing, but some photos are so doctored they might as well be fake photos. 

If the photos aren't of you, I think It's easy enough to be transparent and just say it in the ad like Audrey Astor was saying

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9 minutes ago, Audrey Astor said:

I wonder how they connected you to your ad by your reservation. 

The story has a level of shenanigans, IMO. Cops are not going to a city three hours away just to bust a hooker. Idle speculation, jumped bail or warrant out for something (eg. missed court date) and know she escorts. Not too difficult to watch BP to see when someone hits town again. Or someone informs them that someone is back in town.

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On 8/15/2017 at 8:18 AM, Olivia Rae said:

I should of made my question more accurate.  I never ment face pics.  Just body.

     This brings up another question. Whats so wrong about your body that you have to use someone elses in your ad ??  

     

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On 8/15/2017 at 3:11 PM, HollyMarie said:

I understand blurring your face or hiding your tattoos so you can't be identified, but I think using another SW photos is a bit much. 
There are so many apps and programs that allow us to edit our photos so privacy can still be maintained. 

On the other side of the coin I know people who show their full face and full body but the photos they take are so photoshopped, it looks nothing like them. I understand a little blurring or smoothing, but some photos are so doctored they might as well be fake photos. 

If the photos aren't of you, I think It's easy enough to be transparent and just say it in the ad like Audrey Astor was saying

   Sat in on a cattle call yesterday and found it amusing on how many aspiring models had their composites touched up to the point that it just didn't look like them. Obviously they went into the reject pile.  To make an analogy,same holds true for escorts....fake photos being THE number one topic on this board for years and years.

How many guys pass by the ad that states that the photos used are not of who opens the door ?

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*IF* (and it is a very big IF, because it almost never happens) the body shots really are equivalent to what the provider looks like, then I have no problem with it. I can think of two providers I have seen who used fake body shots (with no face shown) that were nonetheless very accurate representations of their bodies. When I arrived, I was pleasantly surprised, and everything was good. But 99% of the providers out there who use fake photos are guilty of false advertising, in the sense that they are using pictures of someone younger, thinner, with bigger boobs, etc. 

So, if you really do look like the pictures you propose to use in your ads, then just say in the ad, "These pics aren't me, but they look just like me. If you're not happy when you see me, feel free to walk away, no questions asked." I would see a girl who did that. No problem.

But don't push the envelope. If the pics don't look like you, don't use them.

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How often have we seen pictures are really are of the YL in question? Current ones, even?  But the images are misleading because of pose or costume. Belly hidden by lying on her stomach,  a rear angle shot, or artfully draped teddy, etc. The truthful answer to "Accurate pics:" has to be YES, it's really her.

This is one reason why only a minor portion of my decision to visit a YL is based on the visuals of her ads. Her personality (as expressed in her ads, her posts, her reviews, and our personal interaction during the appointment process) plays a much larger part in my decision.

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It's never just the photos; typically there are other red flags as well.

I research providers very thoroughly before deciding whether to see them. In my experience, if the pictures are fake, then everything else in the ad is usually an exaggeration or a lie.

I suppose it's possible that there are providers who use stolen photos but are 100 percent honest about everything else. I haven't found one, though.

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On 8/8/2017 at 11:43 AM, Olivia Rae said:

If someone is advertising on the board, and they use images that are equivalent to their looks, features Etc. is it an issue if it is regarding safety or security for that person? Or is it just lying?  Your thoughts???

I'm not sure there are two images of different people that could be called "equivalent" since different people would view the equivalent images with different focuses. Many times I can say that person looks like someone only to have the other person disagree. Blurring the image and using angles to keep identity hidden is best way to get a good representative pic for others to see and make decisions on if they are in their wheelhouse.

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This sounds like a "the food doesn't look like the menu" post. I totally see most points. If I'm a Provider that has stolen pics, I'm on a free platform because you're not going to pay for someone else to be on your ad. If I'm a Provider that has their pics stolen I'm annoyed and flattered because I paid for those fabulous photos (you're welcome) so I'd appreciate if you don't scam them without permission. And if I'm a Client and I have a food vs menu problem it will depend on how much I was looking forward to the booking and hand vs her debate. If your intuition flares up on either side, walk away. Sometimes the best opportunity you take is to walk away. 

 

Be safe! 

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On 8/30/2017 at 9:51 AM, sweetkarizmatic said:

. If your intuition flares up on either side, walk away. Sometimes the best opportunity you take is to walk away. 

   Ever since I joined this board in 2008 ,THE number one complaint about the ladies has been the use of fake pictures. There are no secrets on the internet. Thus it doesn't take long for a provider to be found out and for her business to experience a drop.  Ditto lying about age ,ink and weight. Everybody likes something different. So ladies...embrace yourself..use real pix and gently blur your face to keep your identity safe.

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