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6 minutes ago, Laci French said:

I'm going to change my screening up a little to include a dick pic, W2, pic of DL and note from boss verifying employment.😉😂

Don't forget tax returns and bank account information! ;) 😂

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3 minutes ago, Cali Rose said:

Don't forget tax returns and bank account information! ;) 😂

Oh and I need them to send me a blood sample, but it has to come via carrier pigeon.
I also need a SAT score, I will not accept ACT unless they have P411.  

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10 minutes ago, gr8owl said:

Hey!! Are you slamming old owls?? I resemble that remark. ;)  Only life advice I am offering is fuck as passionately and as often as you can for as long as you can and do so with someone you genuinely like.

LOL. No way I love the owls, especially the one that asks "How many licks does it take to get to the center of the pop!" :)

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15 minutes ago, HollyMarie said:

Oh and I need them to send me a blood sample, but it has to come via carrier pigeon.
I also need a SAT score, I will not accept ACT unless they have P411.  

Thank you ladies for thinking of my safety.  

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29 minutes ago, Laci French said:

I'm going to change my screening up a little to include a dick pic, W2, pic of DL and note from boss verifying employment.😉😂

No problem except I'm self employed... can I write my own note?

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Does a permission slip from parole officer help??

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Yes to both of you!  Just be creative with the dick pics and that will get you more points.

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8 hours ago, Laci French said:

Of course your safety counts!  You made the decision to not put your rl information out and kept you feeling safe.

If you don't agree with what someone is asking just move on and find someone else.  If a gentleman will not provide the screening that makes the provider feel safe she should decline the request.

Now go out there and get some and your day will improve😂

 

This should be a sticky post at the top of every forum. we all have the right to say 'no" or even "hell no" whenever we feel like. just say no and move on it works for both provider and client.

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I agree with Laci....if it doesn't work for both parties....move on.... Being a selective provider is a good thing...people have contacted me months ago and we never met... and then request another appt expecting me to keep all their info they sent.... I'm sorry but I delete everything from clients... Everyone's screening process should suit their needs....💋💋💋💋💋

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Replying only to the original question, it's Hobbying 101; you never request true ID of a provider, tit for tat or not. Granted, her asking for yours in the form of driver's license is somewhat inane, unless she's checking to make sure you're over 18. Short of making a copy, what can be garnered in the brief glance at an ID? Outside of P411, date check, and other trusted avenues of verification, I can only see it as testing your willingness to expose personal information. Bottom line, if you're reasonably sure the provider is legit, there shouldn't be any problem showing ID. Don't blame her for cutting things off at your counter-demand. Understand it might have been a knee-jerk reaction on your part. Kind of amusing, but if you understand hobbying, your retort was almost like telling her to forget it. Any serious hobbyist would know where that was going. Move on. Lesson learned.

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When I signed up for P411 I read all the disclaimers and text in the agreement. When I joined, they stated that providers WILL ask for ID and that I should cover up the important parts (address, license #) and only expose the info that P411 has. Didn't you get the same? I have never been asked for ID, but I'm always prepared to show it.

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17 hours ago, MrReindeer-9515 said:

And if the police had that information, what do you suppose they would do with it? Let's take that straw man and run...

They might come to your house in front of your wife and kids and ask you why your name and number was on a hooker's phone.  Or use the threat of such to coerce you into cooperating and giving up your P411 login.  It's happened before.

Ladies are free to ask for RWI all they want.  They get no shade from me.  But I personally won't see them.

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On ‎7‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 5:08 PM, MrReindeer-9515 said:

And if the police had that information, what do you suppose they would do with it? Let's take that straw man and run...

Seriously, unless she is dead(Whatever forbid), what do you think they can do with that info; and if she is dead(Whatever forbid, again) and you didn't do it, wouldn't you want to be as helpful as possible in finding whoever did?

Granted, giving RW info isn't for everyone, my example is an extreme one, and you are entitled to your opinion; but positing that the mere presence of said info on a woman's cellphone, that, outside an official investigation, is ever going to be relevant, is irresponsible, unnecessary, and FUD at it's most insidious. JMO.

Apparently you slept through several high-profile cases where the police publicized all of the clients of women who were prosecuted for solicitation: judges, politicians, actors, etc. (including Charlie Sheen).  That is because the ladies who were arrested kept very good notes, which the police then seized.  They didn't have to prosecute the clients, simply listing the clients in the press was sufficient to ruin their lives on many levels.  Perhaps you have nothing to lose if your name is listed in the newspapers and on the internet as being a client, but some of us have a lot to lose in that situation.

Dear Mr. Raindeer, I'm not telling you what to do, if you want to send a resume and photo of your driver's license to a young lady, feel free to do so.  I would bet that 99.99% of the time you would suffer no consequences.

Go right ahead.  My ID stays in the car, mainly because I have never been asked to show it, since I have a P411 account with 28 OKs. 

("... irresponsible, unnecessary and FUD at its most indidious?"  Isn't that a bit of hyperbole?  All I did was give my opinion and reasoning.)

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20 hours ago, Laci French said:

I'm going to change my screening up a little to include a dick pic, W2, pic of DL and note from boss verifying employment.😉😂

You're reminding me of a Chapelle skit that had him talking about what he needed, as far as verification, to believe r.kelly was a pisser.

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20 hours ago, Laci French said:

I'm going to change my screening up a little to include a dick pic, W2, pic of DL and note from boss verifying employment.😉😂

But you already told me to STOP sending you dick pics months ago!  Do you know how hard it was to include the taint in those photographic masterpieces?

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2 hours ago, BadBoy said:

Apparently you slept through several high-profile cases where the police publicized all of the clients of women who were prosecuted for solicitation: judges, politicians, actors, etc. (including Charlie Sheen).  That is because the ladies who were arrested kept very good notes, which the police then seized.  They didn't have to prosecute the clients, simply listing the clients in the press was sufficient to ruin their lives on many levels.  Perhaps you have nothing to lose if your name is listed in the newspapers and on the internet as being a client, but some of us have a lot to lose in that situation.

Dear Mr. Raindeer, I'm not telling you what to do, if you want to send a resume and photo of your driver's license to a young lady, feel free to do so.  I would bet that 99.99% of the time you would suffer no consequences.

Go right ahead.  My ID stays in the car, mainly because I have never been asked to show it, since I have a P411 account with 28 OKs. 

("... irresponsible, unnecessary and FUD at its most indidious?"  Isn't that a bit of hyperbole?  All I did was give my opinion and reasoning.)

Touch a nerve, did I?

I certainly stand by "...irresponsible, unnecessary, and FUD":

First and foremost, as I've posted previously, the three questions any prospective client must ask are: What is the worst case scenario for me Socially, Legally, and Consequences to my health? If you can't hang with any of those occurrences, then you need to find a different hobby.

Second, if you are so "high profile" that the consequences would be magnified for you if caught/infected/charged/outed, then you definitely should appreciate the risks already and probably need to find a new hobby. In the mostly theoretical cases you mention(Sheen included) the problem was not that they gave up info, the problem was they were banging out hookers and got caught.  Not saying that you shouldn't do what you need to do to mitigate risk, but if/when it does happen, you better be prepared to take personal responsibility.

You certainly don't have to give out anything you don't want to, never said you should. However, taking the additional time to post some nonsense implying that by merely showing an ID, you are putting yourself in irreparable legal jeopardy, is "irresponsible, unnecessary, and FUD".

 I will say it again: what puts you in legal jeopardy is you taking up with hookers, not what they might have on you. 

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2 hours ago, Long Time said:

But you already told me to STOP sending you dick pics months ago!  Do you know how hard it was to include the taint in those photographic masterpieces?

You just stopped being creative. I miss the first few that really showed your personality.

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14 hours ago, MrReindeer-9515 said:

Touch a nerve, did I?

I certainly stand by "...irresponsible, unnecessary, and FUD":

First and foremost, as I've posted previously, the three questions any prospective client must ask are: What is the worst case scenario for me Socially, Legally, and Consequences to my health? If you can't hang with any of those occurrences, then you need to find a different hobby.

Second, if you are so "high profile" that the consequences would be magnified for you if caught/infected/charged/outed, then you definitely should appreciate the risks already and probably need to find a new hobby. In the mostly theoretical cases you mention(Sheen included) the problem was not that they gave up info, the problem was they were banging out hookers and got caught.  Not saying that you shouldn't do what you need to do to mitigate risk, but if/when it does happen, you better be prepared to take personal responsibility.

You certainly don't have to give out anything you don't want to, never said you should. However, taking the additional time to post some nonsense implying that by merely showing an ID, you are putting yourself in irreparable legal jeopardy, is "irresponsible, unnecessary, and FUD".

 I will say it again: what puts you in legal jeopardy is you taking up with hookers, not what they might have on you. 

You know, the "Magnificent Bastard" and the photo on your Avatar tells us all we really need to know about you, and how much we should value your opinion.

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On 7/18/2017 at 10:23 AM, daaacz said:

When I signed up for P411 I read all the disclaimers and text in the agreement. When I joined, they stated that providers WILL ask for ID and that I should cover up the important parts (address, license #) and only expose the info that P411 has. 

This^^^^^^^ cover up your address! Cover up you DL number! 

Ive never asked for an ID such as a drivers license. this business is supposed to be based on discretion. If I felt the need to ask for an id, I'm likely not going to see you. I have NO reason to have your personal information. 

Everyone needs to screen to their own comfort, but I just don't see a good reason to ask for a drivers license. There are so many other ways to screen, not mention your gut feeling. I'm going to figure out if you're ok to see and SAFE long before I need ID. In all my 17 years, I've had 1 bad experience. I failed to listen to my gut. 

To the OP, your response was a little snarky, but, a person could have turned it into a laugh. If you sent your P411 she didn't need your id. 

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On 7/19/2017 at 11:07 AM, Melissa Sterling said:

This^^^^^^^ cover up your address! Cover up you DL number! 

Ive never asked for an ID such as a drivers license. this business is supposed to be based on discretion. If I felt the need to ask for an id, I'm likely not going to see you. I have NO reason to have your personal information. 

Everyone needs to screen to their own comfort, but I just don't see a good reason to ask for a drivers license. There are so many other ways to screen, not mention your gut feeling. I'm going to figure out if you're ok to see and SAFE long before I need ID. In all my 17 years, I've had 1 bad experience. I failed to listen to my gut. 

To the OP, your response was a little snarky, but, a person could have turned it into a laugh. If you sent your P411 she didn't need your id. 

Would it be enough to cover potions of the license up so that last name, LN and physical address or blanketed with black tape? I'd never do this for an unknown lady but a known provider can certainly see my pic and first name if it makes her feel better. Makes me sad though. I REALLY wanted to use that Paavo pic at least once.

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On 7/17/2017 at 0:11 PM, Chrissy said:

Bottom line you guys need to remember this is a Woman's business. Not a mans, and no matter how many insights, experience with us you think you might have when it comes to an escort, you will not ever run even a small portion of this business. Not how she screens, not who she sees, not her practice. Her rates,  Nothing. We are here to serve pleasure with out commitment and often placed at the bottom of the totem pole of lifestyle choices and looked down apon. We have enough negativity to deal with wayyyyy before a session occurs. We have to balance that with a smile to get the next one. Every single and I mean every single lady that endures the hassles of this choosing deserves the respect it takes to go meet strangers on someone else's word, service that stranger in intimate moments and situations sincerely offering herself  all for the almighty dollar. 

 

Yes Chrissy! Love!

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I have been reading ads and profiles for some time. I know I have come across several providers that say they may ask for ID and even ones Bio on a business website, or a Linkedin account as a means to screen. Some very interesting points have been made, ones that argue both sides very well. Interesting, I like hearing the different perspectives. 

Play safe people!

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Back in the day...40 eleven million years ago...... a huge advantage of seeing providers was the lack of complications and bullshit. I'm thinking that pretty soon, I am gonna unearth my perfect 69 playmate. Then I will enjoy the luxury of sticking with ONE... and reject the drama that USED to not exist. Change is a bitch. Pretty sure that NOW...in THIS day and age...if it was raining soup, most folks would get hit in the mouth with a bale of hay. Most distasteful in an endeavor designed to SIMPLIFY pleasure...not complicate it. Oh well...WTF......it's just a luxury option, not a need. Those changing times!

 

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8 hours ago, Admiral C said:

a huge advantage of seeing providers was the lack of complications and bullshit. 

Funny, I don't remember this, at all. I started doing this before cell phones existed, and most providers required a work phone number, or home phone number, or home address, or a business card, or ID. Then you had to call from a payphone at a nearby corner to get the incall location. I've always understood that people can get my identity from my license plate, as well. For the most part, I never experienced the "lack of complications and bullshit." that you did. 

There have always been a few girls who screen very lightly, or not at all. I'm guessing they would be your preference.

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9 hours ago, Admiral C said:

Back in the day...40 eleven million years ago...... a huge advantage of seeing providers was the lack of complications and bullshit. I'm thinking that pretty soon, I am gonna unearth my perfect 69 playmate. Then I will enjoy the luxury of sticking with ONE... and reject the drama that USED to not exist. Change is a bitch. Pretty sure that NOW...in THIS day and age...if it was raining soup, most folks would get hit in the mouth with a bale of hay. Most distasteful in an endeavor designed to SIMPLIFY pleasure...not complicate it. Oh well...WTF......it's just a luxury option, not a need. Those changing times!

 

A gazillion rep points!!!!!!!  

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35 minutes ago, pfunk said:

Funny, I don't remember this, at all. I started doing this before cell phones existed, and most providers required a work phone number, or home phone number, or home address, or a business card, or ID. Then you had to call from a payphone at a nearby corner to get the incall location. I've always understood that people can get my identity from my license plate, as well. For the most part, I never experienced the "lack of complications and bullshit." that you did. 

There have always been a few girls who screen very lightly, or not at all. I'm guessing they would be your preference.

Girls did some screening...but it relates to another post about general shenanigans of people. As the clients do more shenanigans.....the ladies do more screening....become more cautious.....it becomes more complicated.

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