Fun4uco

Only good reviews going through???

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I don't always post a review and obviously some providers don't want them, but when I post one I want it to be an accurate depiction maybe minus some intimate details but enough to let someone know how it went, the set up the location the vibe. It can only help all involved make the best decision and everyone happier. 

I had tried posting a negative review in the past because it was just that for me a negative experience, it kept getting denied even when I tried to edit it to seem nicer. I ended up having to post a positive review with a maybe recommend and in the comments that I would not do it again.

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Reviews offer a subjective account of an intimate session between two adults.  It's not different than writing an account of two individuals meeting under wahtever circumstances.  You can't take as gosple anything that is said in a review.  It's way too subjective.  We could have a review list of car wash services and various people would have differnet conclusions.  The sum total of reviews, offer a variety of information on what it would be like to meet with a particular provider.  But because of the intimate nature of the services provided, different people will have differing assessments.  I have met with some ladies that weren't particlularly my cup of tea even though reviews stated they were amazing and outstandingly beautiful.  That's part of what makes this hobby interesting.  What's behind the green door is always a new adventure.  I also think it's good that ladies can express a differeing opinion on the encounter.  Most of the rebuttals I have read, are effective at making the case that there always two sides to the story.  I peruse various review sites, and I think what we have on TOB is not to be matched by any other site.  I read TER but their format is so much more structured that the intimate details are not available.

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I also think it is very fair that if a lady recieves a negative review, the moderators take time to dig a little deeper in to what is said and offer the opportunity for the lady see the proposed review and offer their own version of how the session went.  Thankfully, this site, doesn't have the same immediacy of information as cable news.  

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20 hours ago, Fun4uco said:

Has anyone else noticed that if you try to post a negative, or so-so review, they dont go through as fast? I hate posting a negative review, but when I do I feel it's warranted and want others to know. Which, leads me to think/believe, that even before I went to post a so-so or bad review, especially on someone with yes reviews, that there was probably others.  Which would have saved me the effort of seeing a provider. I think this forum is just as much for letting us know the thumbs ups, as it is the thumbs down. But, if so-so and negative reviews aren't being posted, how are we to know???

JMO, but while it's always been that way, to a degree it has gotten much worse since TOB started taking paid advertising from ASP's. 

Think about it: would you pay to advertise on a site that is hosting business killing reviews?

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Actually, "Johnny, Learning Your Way," Fishin' Dude and I will continue to do as we damn well wish and need no instructions from you or anyone else. We explained our approach, and if someone does not like it, they do not have to follow it.  My reviews are useful for those interested in seeing gems, or wishing to avoid no-shows.  If you are seeking reviews of ho-hum encounters, you will need to read the reviews from others.

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Who knew that suggestions of honesty and accuracy in reviews and including whether or not one would recommend seeing a provider or would see that provider again would illicit a finger wagging admonition from a veteran?

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Hey, JT, sorry for the cranky tone, I just needed a Snickers (since eaten).  It actually sounded like you were wagging the finger at me for not reviewing every single escort I have seen, which I simply do not choose to do.  If I reviewed every escort I have seen, I'd literally have over two hundred reviews, most of which would be pretty useless to the community.  But the real reason is that I just keep hearing my sainted mom (long deceased), telling me, "if you can't say something nice about someone, then don't say anything at all."

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7 hours ago, Fun4uco said:

I think the rebutals tell a lot about the provider. Some re-enforce the negative review and some negate them. So there's that. 

Also, what does the board to to vet negative reviews more? Read it more than once???

I have found this to be true more often than not.

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5 hours ago, BadBoy said:

I respectfully disagree with the Boinkster and think that Fishin'Dude has a reasonable position, basically because I use the same approach:  If I get ripped off (never happened), get no-showed (only once), or if there was significant misrepresentation (false photos, 125 pounds in the ad and 180 pounds in the incall, etc.), I would post a review indicating those negative issues.  On the other hand, if the lady shows up on time, is generally as represented, but we just didn't "click" and it wasn't a great session, I agree with Fishin'Dude that those are not good reasons to post a negative review, since I am aware that not every gal gets wet just at the sight of me and at the sound of my voice.

I also disagree that Fishin'Dude's and my reviews are less valuable because we only write positive reviews.  I read reviews to see who is really great, and if a "positive only" reviewer thinks she is great, I am going to value that review as much or more than the one that says "she just layed there while I pumped away from behind and didn't even pretend to enjoy my fat ass..." review.

Just because we fishin' guys only write positive reviews doesn't mean we give everyone a positive review - it just means we want to let the board know who the real gems are (in our opinion), and we keep our opinions to ourselves regarding the ho-hum appointments.  You really only should be looking for the gems, anyway.

Personally I don't consider this even close to the same approach as "  I will never ever leave a bad review. " Your approach gives the reader information that they might find useful.

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2 hours ago, BadBoy said:

Hey, JT, sorry for the cranky tone, I just needed a Snickers (since eaten).  It actually sounded like you were wagging the finger at me for not reviewing every single escort I have seen, which I simply do not choose to do.  If I reviewed every escort I have seen, I'd literally have over two hundred reviews, most of which would be pretty useless to the community.  But the real reason is that I just keep hearing my sainted mom (long deceased), telling me, "if you can't say something nice about someone, then don't say anything at all."

BB, I'm out of rep points for the day. Otherwise, would have given you one for your post. Much appreciated.

Its all good, Brother. Sometimes a newbie needs to be put in his place by the wiley vets. 😀

Namaste

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I regretfully had to post a negative review a few months ago. It did take 10-14 days to post. There were a couple if us that gave a NO for the same reason. Unfortunate, but it was a situation that the guys here needed to be warned about.

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I've completely stopped using the reviews. I've noticed that there are rarely any so-so or negative reviews and to me it seems like guys are writing reviews to stroke their own ego or writing them for the providers. The reviews are completely useless without the negative and so-so reviews. As I'm reading reviews and posts from other members I can get an idea of their personality, like and dislikes. In the old system I was able to take that info compare it to my personality, likes and dislikes to find providers that were more compatible and also look for certain traits in myself that might make a particular provider a not so great fit. I realize that it is probably hard for providers to see so-so reviews for such an intimate service but I don't see anything wrong with those reviews. What works for one guy doesn't work for another and maybe if more honest data was available both providers and clients could have better experiences.

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11 hours ago, time4fun said:

Reviews offer a subjective account of an intimate session between two adults.  It's not different than writing an account of two individuals meeting under wahtever circumstances.  You can't take as gosple anything that is said in a review.  It's way too subjective.  We could have a review list of car wash services and various people would have differnet conclusions.  The sum total of reviews, offer a variety of information on what it would be like to meet with a particular provider.  But because of the intimate nature of the services provided, different people will have differing assessments.  I have met with some ladies that weren't particlularly my cup of tea even though reviews stated they were amazing and outstandingly beautiful.  That's part of what makes this hobby interesting.  What's behind the green door is always a new adventure.  I also think it's good that ladies can express a differeing opinion on the encounter.  Most of the rebuttals I have read, are effective at making the case that there always two sides to the story.  I peruse various review sites, and I think what we have on TOB is not to be matched by any other site.  I read TER but their format is so much more structured that the intimate details are not available.

^^^^^This^^^^^

Even a 9.6 star restaurant/car wash/dentist/etc will have some bad reviews. Look at yelp. Even great places have people that had a bad experience and are bitter about it. If the bad reviews arent allowed, the "pattern" of a provider wont be truly shown. If someone has 7 good reviews, 2 bad reviews, and by reading those bad reviews you can tell they just didn't click. 1 bad review isnt the end of the world, but a pattern of them is a problem. Especially if they are similar and legit sounding. 

To this, I think the old method of rating looks, attitude and service each indivually on a 1-10 was much more affective for people reading reviews. 

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7 hours ago, Laci French said:

This thread sounds like you are waiting with baited breath to post negativity on a provider in a review.

When that review is not posted as quickly as you want, you throw negativity on her in the forum.

I have a few questions for you:

Did you stay for the scheduled appointment?

Did you "complete" the appointment?

Did you talk to the provider about your negative experience? 

I'm all for honesty and have taken my lumps, but don't forget in your "hobby" journey we all are human.

As to what you said about waiting to oost a negative review, Yes! Thats exactly it. Why? Because I wish someone had done the same for me before so I could have visited someone who was more deserving and would have been a better match. So, I am.just trying to let people, and the provider know about what I thought of the envounter.

Your other questions.

Did I stay? Yes

Complete? Yes

Talk to them? No. I guess I could have said it to them directly, but its easier to hide behind the keyboard, and tell the community to keep her accountable. If she gets a bad review, and the next reviews address them directly as to how she has improved/changed, then "my work here is done." Haha. More so, I think that's the purpose of reviews; help hobbyist find theright matches, and help providers improve and stay on top of their game.

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I'm going the other way from the 'only good reviews' crowd. I used to review all of my experiences:

  • For my fellow clients, telling them about good & bad experiences
  • For the provider, giving her greater exposure (advertising) & if needed, critique. 

I would write my reviews 6-10 days after the session to provide a more objective view, one not colored by the rosey afterglow of orgasm. It usually took 30-45 minutes, gathering contact information, vital statistics, and wordsmithing for the right tone. (Remember, time is money.)

But no more!  Complaints from providers about luke warm reviews, complaints & refused service for associating with other providers, tales of black listing for less than stellar reviews, etc.  Who needs it? 

For a while my policy was "no Denver reviews", which was fairly easy since I've been travelling a lot for the past few years. But I've modified that slightly. If my experience is bad or dangerous ( rip off, C&D, repeated NC/NS, etc.) I will report it as a warning to my fellow hobbiests. Otherwise, caveat emptor. Ladies, sorry but the poor behavior of your sisters has cost you the perk of good reviews, AFAIC.

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8 hours ago, mj76 said:

I've completely stopped using the reviews. I've noticed that there are rarely any so-so or negative reviews and to me it seems like guys are writing reviews to stroke their own ego or writing them for the providers.

Bingo !!!

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20 hours ago, olgunn said:

I don't always post a review and obviously some providers don't want them, but when I post one I want it to be an accurate depiction maybe minus some intimate details but enough to let someone know how it went, the set up the location the vibe. It can only help all involved make the best decision and everyone happier. 

I had tried posting a negative review in the past because it was just that for me a negative experience, it kept getting denied even when I tried to edit it to seem nicer. I ended up having to post a positive review with a maybe recommend and in the comments that I would not do it again.

It has been brought to my attention the review I mentioned above had been denied because I had missed a field in the review template. That was what caused it to be denied. Please let the record show it was user error. 

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Reviews can take up to 8 days to publish. We have had incidents where it has taken longer. The majority of reviews are published much quicker then that. With negative reviews, we have an additional step.

Reviews are displayed based on the date submitted and not the date published. At this time there is no way to sort/search for reviews that were just published.

NO reviewer has ever had their review denied because it was negative until they resubmitted it as a positive one. That's just ridiculous...

Generally, reviews are denied because the form is not filled out correctly. The Consenting Adults Activities area is left blank, the Alternative Website link is left blank or does not link correctly, "Services" and or "Would you Recommend" fields are not selected. Once it's denied the reviewer can resubmit.

We encourage all reviewers to give a detailed account of their experiences good, bad or indifferent.

We thank you for all your feedback and support.

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3 hours ago, Bit Banger said:

I'm going the other way from the 'only good reviews' crowd. I used to review all of my experiences:

  • For my fellow clients, telling them about good & bad experiences
  • For the provider, giving her greater exposure (advertising) & if needed, critique. 

I would write my reviews 6-10 days after the session to provide a more objective view, one not colored by the rosey afterglow of orgasm. It usually took 30-45 minutes, gathering contact information, vital statistics, and wordsmithing for the right tone. (Remember, time is money.)

But no more!  Complaints from providers about luke warm reviews, complaints & refused service for associating with other providers, tales of black listing for less than stellar reviews, etc.  Who needs it? 

For a while my policy was "no Denver reviews", which was fairly easy since I've been travelling a lot for the past few years. But I've modified that slightly. If my experience is bad or dangerous ( rip off, C&D, repeated NC/NS, etc.) I will report it as a warning to my fellow hobbiests. Otherwise, caveat emptor. Ladies, sorry but the poor behavior of your sisters has cost you the perk of good reviews, AFAIC.

Although I understand your situation and appreciate the reasons why you've come to this decision, through your vast experiences with submitting an honest review and having backlash from providers as a result, I don't think the great providers who give outstanding service should suffer any consequences for the bad apples you've encountered. Just my HO. Otherwise, Thanks for your thoughts on the subject

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On Saturday, July 01, 2017 at 8:06 AM, MrFadedGlory5280 said:

Bingo !!!

Or, he just got fucked out of 300-500. and doesn't want to look like a fool, who saw a new provider who had little or no histoty.

Who got sucked in by what he saw in the prosesional pictures she posted. Which we seem to be getting a lot of lately. JMHO.

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1 hour ago, tide32 said:

Or, he just got fucked out of 300-500. and doesn't want to look like a fool, who saw a new provider who had little or no histoty.

Who got sucked in by what he saw in the prosesional pictures she posted. Which we seem to be getting a lot of lately. JMHO.

Those blasted overly done professional glamour shots! Haha but seriously there are a lot more of those! I like seeing a variety of photos, like mirror selfies, more of what the lovely provider would look like in the actual session :) sorry that was off topic lol hope everyone had a great weekend! 

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14 hours ago, tide32 said:

Or, he just got fucked out of 300-500. and doesn't want to look like a fool, who saw a new provider who had little or no histoty.

Who got sucked in by what he saw in the prosesional pictures she posted. Which we seem to be getting a lot of lately. JMHO.

Hi Tide32 - was this in reference to another thread :) ?

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On ‎6‎/‎30‎/‎2017 at 11:10 PM, mj76 said:

I've completely stopped using the reviews. I've noticed that there are rarely any so-so or negative reviews and to me it seems like guys are writing reviews to stroke their own ego or writing them for the providers. The reviews are completely useless without the negative and so-so reviews. As I'm reading reviews and posts from other members I can get an idea of their personality, like and dislikes. In the old system I was able to take that info compare it to my personality, likes and dislikes to find providers that were more compatible and also look for certain traits in myself that might make a particular provider a not so great fit. I realize that it is probably hard for providers to see so-so reviews for such an intimate service but I don't see anything wrong with those reviews. What works for one guy doesn't work for another and maybe if more honest data was available both providers and clients could have better experiences.

I guess we just have different views of the purpose of reviews, and folks seem to fall into one of two camps:

1.  Guys who want to know exactly how their session is going to go, they want to know every activity that is condoned, the precise appearance of the young lady, how she will act, etc.  These guys seem to feel that they are entitled to a review of every single person's visit, and will militantly call anyone out who admits that they don't like to write negative reviews.

2.  Guys who use reviews for limited purposes: 1)  is she LE?  If she has three or more reviews, she is probably not.  2) is her description accurate?  If three or four guys say the pictures are "accurate," then she probably is close.  3)  Do the majority of reviews indicate that she is generally pleasant?  If so, grab the money and go.  I am in this group and do not need to know any more - hopefully my experience will be interesting, and I am not interested in a script.

I stand by my opinion that positive reviews are just as informative as negative, and that if someone has 10-70 positive reviews, that is all I need to know.

Life should be full of the unexpected.

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45 minutes ago, BadBoy said:

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2.  Guys who use reviews for limited purposes: 1)  is she LE?  If she has three or more reviews, she is probably not.  2) is her description accurate?  If three or four guys say the pictures are "accurate," then she probably is close.  3)  Do the majority of reviews indicate that she is generally pleasant?  If so, grab the money and go.  I am in this group and do not need to know any more - hopefully my experience will be interesting, and I am not interested in a script.

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Life should be full of the unexpected.

^^ BINGO ^^

The "generally pleasant" part is where a description of the 'feel' of the session is so important. I don't need a detailed list of activities, nor do I need a porn novel, but I do need to know if she's FS or FBSM.

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Just rambling. Off my meds again. :huh:

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6 hours ago, BadBoy said:

2.  Guys who use reviews for limited purposes: 1)  is she LE?  If she has three or more reviews, she is probably not.  2) is her description accurate?  If three or four guys say the pictures are "accurate," then she probably is close.  3)  Do the majority of reviews indicate that she is generally pleasant?  If so, grab the money and go.  I am in this group and do not need to know any more - hopefully my experience will be interesting, and I am not interested in a script.

I stand by my opinion that positive reviews are just as informative as negative, and that if someone has 10-70 positive reviews, that is all I need to know.

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The NO should really mean,  so she said NO...that is terrible. She was rude? Is that because you suggested she go to charm school after you forgot the megalomaniac's guide to repelling women by subjecting them to your antiquated patriarchal supremacy?

Call it..." an oportunity for a man to have nothing to report about what isn't his."

Give me a NO W and I guarantee the lack of attraction from what is more likely than not his ruse to get something for nothing, is MUTUAL. 

Just a thought. 

I get it. There are vast exceptions to my rant. I'm fueled by the nerve of some inquiries. When it concerns safety, I will be rude and eventually learn to not apologize for it.

 

 

 

 

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On 6/30/2017 at 5:30 PM, Laci French said:

This thread sounds like you are waiting with BAITED  breath to post negativity on a provider in a review.

When that review is not posted as quickly as you want, you throw negativity on her in the forum.

I have a few questions for you:

Did you stay for the scheduled appointment?

Did you "complete" the appointment?

Did you talk to the provider about your negative experience? 

I'm all for honesty and have taken my lumps, but don't forget in your "hobby" journey we all are human.

LOL...I wouldn't see anyone who eats worms, either.

Seriously, I get real heartburn when a guy has list of adult activities that includes MSOG and then gives a bad or so so review because the lady had spinach in her teeth.  If you go through with a session, you are consenting to whatever deal is offerred there, including bad hygeine, old photos, 3G service.  I don't care what she's like ...if you cum, you can't say you have been ill-used.  If you don't like what is being offerred, grow a pair and leave.  If you get no refund, then you can definitely write a ripoff review with a clean conscience.

2 hours ago, subtlysexy89 said:

The NO should really mean,  so she said NO...that is terrible. She was rude? Is that because you suggested she go to charm school after you forgot the megalomaniac's guide to repelling women by subjecting them to your antiquated patriarchal supremacy?

Call it..." an oportunity for a man to have nothing to report about what isn't his."

Give me a NO W and I guarantee the lack of attraction from what is more likely than not his ruse to get something for nothing, is MUTUAL. 

Just a thought. 

I get it. There are vast exceptions to my rant. I'm fueled by the nerve of some inquiries. When it concerns safety, I will be rude and eventually learn to not apologize for it.

 

 

 

 

But this is the flipside. If the lady has multiple reviews listing certain activities, I am going to have certain expectations about activities that are considered taboo to discuss.  I understand the "NO."  I truly understand and respect that I do not own the providers body.  However, I am likely to hear your "NO" and interpret it as "You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting."  Different guys will react differently to this message.  I am likely to just be sad and leave.  Others will seek revenge via a bad review. The worst of us may become violent.

Ultimately, this conundrum can only be addressed by two things:

1) Mutual respect.  It has become obvious to me that both sides of this "business deal" tend to hold each other in contempt. This is most often revealed on the boards by the providers reminding the guys that they are so pathetic they have to pay for sex, and by the guys suggesting that if the ladies are not happy, they should return to the food service or retail industries.  These kinds of comments only act to widen the divide.  If you simply treat your provider or client with the respect that they are due as a member of the human race, you will be succesful.  There are some who cannot do this.  As providers, they earn bad reviews. As clients, they get blacklisted.

2)Communication.  Ladies, if you have reviews, even good ones, that are inaccurate as regards activities, please mention this in your profile or ads. Also, please look at my P411 profile.  I have a list of specific activities there that I enjoy.  If you cant or won't engage in them, PLEASE let me know ahead of time. Guys, if the session is starting to go a long way from what you expected, please communicate this politely  to the lady. Being assertive is not the same thing as being rude.

For the record, in 6 years, I have had only one session where I was disappointed...I expected a GFE and got 3G.  I gave a good review, but noted the difference.  Communication and Mutual respect is a formula that cannot fail.

'I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.'   Maya Angelou

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 Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, PFunk, a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy.

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