Posted June 5, 2017 51 minutes ago, Lucy Kitten said: If you want generic responses then ask for generic responses. But you posted a pretty specific scenario and are going to get specific replies. Forum rookie mistake? I posted my scenario for context (and to be passive aggressive about my meeting with a pompous asshat Architect). Wasn't expecting the rabbit hole of provider bashing to open up. Taking notes for my next thread, sometime down the road... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, SultryKitten said: In a way, these tactics would work...except for all the variables in between like what Lucy said, phones updating These updates are not that often. They usually only take few minutes. If guys are texting or leaving voices this should hinder him getting a return call or text message. not calling through(my phone does this a lot) If your experiencing this problem go buy cell phone booster its $50. Or change to better service plan. Problem solved. a lady is busy/booked, Communicate in-between sessions. Its not that difficult to pick up the phone and call back. Or shoot him text message. It takes 1-2 minutes. problem solved Email hasn't come through Because he never sent it? Or the girl isn't checking it. lol or went to spam, etc. Change your email box to read all which includes spam. problem solved There are so many scenarios and situations that happent that nothing is fool proof. If only it was that easy! Honestly you guys make this shit sound like it major problem getting booked with all these lame excuses why girls cant figure out how to get appointment. Now with that being said, I am not perfect: I do recall few years ago, shortly after I started the business in denver. I had a situation that occurred with JrWolf publicly humiliated me on TOB. I apologized for it on this forum and admitted it was my fault. While at the time I thought JrWolf was ass hole. (still do btw lol) I want to thank JrWolf for the public humiliation. Because right after this I became very well organized after being publicly humiliated. Thanks to JrWolf being ass hole, it actually made me a better escort. Every now then he likes to poke at me here and I just see as love tap. Bottom line is, Its not that hard to answer the phone, and return calls and text back or send email. Edited June 5, 2017 by Nikki Holiday 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 5, 2017 27 minutes ago, Nikki Holiday said: In a way, these tactics would work...except for all the variables in between like what Lucy said, phones updating Sorry I ran out of time. It was supposed to say These updates are not that often. They usually only take few minutes. If guys are texting or leaving voicemails emailing us should NOT hinder him getting a response. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 5, 2017 On 6/3/2017 at 0:19 AM, 19moose75 said: You're sitting in a conference room with an Architect, an Engineer and a General Contractor when your phone vibrates in your pocket (good thing you remembered to put it on silent). It's the YL you reached out to earlier in the day returning a call from the voicemail you left her about setting up an 'afternoon side gig'. Knowing you can't answer while the Architect is trying to explain to the Engineer why he knows more about building and construction than any of the rest of us, you let it go to voicemail. Missed connection #2. As I type this, it sounds a bit like one of those 'guy walks into a bar' jokes is about to take place, but in reality it's what happened to me earlier this week. I let the call go to voicemail. An hour and a half later, meeting is finally over, I return the call. Big suprise.. it goes to voicemail. Left message (Sorry was in a meeting. Would love to set something up. Maybe for Saturday? Call me back when you can. Thanks!) Missed conection #3 I wait a couple of days. Nothing. I try again. Leave another voicemail. (Hello this is ..., tried a couple of times this week to reach you. Sorry I keep missing you. Call me back when you can. My number is ....) Crickets.. So, my question is: At what point does it become 'pestering'? Did I inadvertently piss her off? I've been wanting to meet with this YL for some time now. Love her profile, reviews, demeanor on the forums, services offered etc. I understand she is probably busy with her own day to day and such. I am not offended that she wasn't waiting next to the phone for MY call. I don't want to be a pestering ass for sure! Ladies, what sets you off when a client is trying to reach out to you? How many missed connections before you think he's jerking you around (even if he's really not trying to jerk you around)? Some of us try to be good clients, but a fucking Architect ruins our chances! It's funny here, you state a problem, ask for some answers, and then, you have a complete train wreck on your hands. I can't begin to answer your problem unless to say maybe she was tired, busy with family or her real job. I just hope beyond hope that one of the mods on here reads some of the garbage that has been posted to this and CLOSES the thread? PLEASE and THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!!!!!!! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 5, 2017 5 hours ago, sparkey600 said: It's funny here, you state a problem, ask for some answers, and then, you have a complete train wreck on your hands. I can't begin to answer your problem unless to say maybe she was tired, busy with family or her real job. I just hope beyond hope that one of the mods on here reads some of the garbage that has been posted to this and CLOSES the thread? PLEASE and THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!!!!!!! I was sitting in my dining room watching a moose through the window frolic in the meadow. all of the sudden he was disemboweled by a couple of Sasquatch. All kidding aside a thread like this should come with a free #2 pencil. that way you can update your list of providers you do and don't want to see. Moose ask a good question but got a few answers to an entirely different question. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 5, 2017 12 hours ago, 19moose75 said: Forum rookie mistake? I posted my scenario for context (and to be passive aggressive about my meeting with a pompous asshat Architect). Wasn't expecting the rabbit hole of provider bashing to open up. Taking notes for my next thread, sometime down the road... You should always expect the provider bashing. Any time a question like that is asked about a provider and there is any chance she might be in the wrong the bashing will commence. It's pretty cyclical, then you get the post blaming providers for being the problem when all they really did was provide answers or respond to something that was offensive towards them. Then you get the replies that obviously didn't read the OP and just assume that you've tried every avenue of communication so it has to be her fault. This is why I say do everything you can before bringing it to the board. Because some people just can't ever resist the chance to tear others down. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 5, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, Nikki Holiday said: Nikki, I do not have problems getting appts...I have the opposite in fact. I even get 3-5 clients calling at the same time which makes it hard for me to call them or answer promptly...no, this doesn't happen all the time, but it is frequent. I make it clear to clients that my best contact is through phone, and emails are periodically checked because I am not sitting all day on my laptop answering emails or surfing the web. My phone does act up from time to time, but it isn't the phone...it is the cement walls I have in my building that make getting through kind of fun. I do make it work though, and so far have encountered few problems with it. I actually DO have a life...errands to run, kids that have to be run around, grocery shopping, bill paying, accounting, cleaning house and office, family get togethers, graduations, holidays, being a boss, advertising, etc. I do my best to maintain and yes, because I am human I make mistakes just like any other provider in this business, but those mistakes are very few because I am pretty organized and do my best to stay on top of things. It doesn't mean that I should come on here and belittle ladies for being less because they run their business differently than I do. We all have our niches and what works for us. When I write my comments, I try to generalize what us ladies are going through...not just what I do. I am not the only lady that does this too and encounters these problems. In other words Nikki, I am glad that you have your life in order and your business is running smoothly, but it doesn't mean that what you are doing is going to work for another provider. That is the beauty of this business and this forum...it allows us to be able to express ourselves, and what we have found works then they can decide how to proceed from our lovely words of wisdom. I honestly don't know her reasoning for not getting back to him...something happened and now there is no communication. It happens to the best of us. xoxo, Samantha Sheppard Edited June 5, 2017 by SultryKitten missed spaces 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 5, 2017 1 hour ago, SultryKitten said: Nikki, I do not have problems getting appts...I have the opposite in fact. I even get 3-5 clients calling at the same time which makes it hard for me to call them or answer promptly...no, this doesn't happen all the time, but it is frequent. I make it clear to clients that my best contact is through phone, and emails are periodically checked because I am not sitting all day on my laptop answering emails or surfing the web. My phone does act up from time to time, but it isn't the phone...it is the cement walls I have in my building that make getting through kind of fun. I do make it work though, and so far have encountered few problems with it. I actually DO have a life...errands to run, kids that have to be run around, grocery shopping, bill paying, accounting, cleaning house and office, family get togethers, graduations, holidays, being a boss, advertising, etc. I do my best to maintain and yes, because I am human I make mistakes just like any other provider in this business, but those mistakes are very few because I am pretty organized and do my best to stay on top of things. It doesn't mean that I should come on here and belittle ladies for being less because they run their business differently than I do. We all have our niches and what works for us. When I write my comments, I try to generalize what us ladies are going through...not just what I do. I am not the only lady that does this too and encounters these problems. In other words Nikki, I am glad that you have your life in order and your business is running smoothly, but it doesn't mean that what you are doing is going to work for another provider. That is the beauty of this business and this forum...it allows us to be able to express ourselves, and what we have found works then they can decide how to proceed from our lovely words of wisdom. I honestly don't know her reasoning for not getting back to him...something happened and now there is no communication. It happens to the best of us. xoxo, Samantha Sheppard Some of you guys take shit to personal and get all butt hurt when people make suggestions on how make it easier. Samantha it's none my business how you run your life. The comment I made was in general not directly at you. All I did was respond with "answers how fix the problems" to help make life easier. My English is not good enough to sugarcoat. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 5, 2017 Wow, if I were a newbe and checking out this board for the first time, after reading this thread, and others recently, I would log off and never come back. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 5, 2017 2 hours ago, SultryKitten said: I actually DO have a life...errands to run, kids that have to be run around, grocery shopping, bill paying, accounting, cleaning house and office, family get togethers, graduations, holidays, being a boss, advertising, etc. xoxo, Samantha Sheppard For these exact reasons I did not want to run the risk of being the thorn in the YL side by pestering her. Did I exhaust all means if communication? No. Should I have? After the productive (and not so productive) responses I've received... Maybe. Am I going to give it another shot? Definately! Might even try a little harder next time, because I think it'd be worth it. Will I ever start another thread asking simple, seemingly obvious questions, looking for simple, seemingly obvious answers? Yup, I'm sure I will. (Thick-headed) Even some of the negative feedback I received helped open my eyes to another side of the story that I wouldn't have thought of otherwise. I'm a jovial upbeat type who can take a good verbal bashing with the best of 'em and just say Thank You! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Nikki Holiday said: Some of you guys take shit to personal and get all butt hurt when people make suggestions on how make it easier. Samantha it's none my business how you run your life. The comment I made was in general not directly at you. All I did was respond with "answers how fix the problems" to help make life easier. My English is not good enough to sugarcoat. That is the wonderful thing about written comments than personal convo...hard to know who it really is meant for. It is all good...this business is tough enough as it is that getting butthurt doesn't do anything but create problems for yourself. I wasn't offended, I just wanted to explain that there are things that happen to us all, and I am no different. This business is not for the weak, that is sure! xoxo, Samantha Sheppard 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 5, 2017 16 minutes ago, 19moose75 said: For these exact reasons I did not want to run the risk of being the thorn in the YL side by pestering her. Did I exhaust all means if communication? No. Should I have? After the productive (and not so productive) responses I've received... Maybe. Am I going to give it another shot? Definately! Might even try a little harder next time, because I think it'd be worth it. Will I ever start another thread asking simple, seemingly obvious questions, looking for simple, seemingly obvious answers? Yup, I'm sure I will. (Thick-headed) Even some of the negative feedback I received helped open my eyes to another side of the story that I wouldn't have thought of otherwise. I'm a jovial upbeat type who can take a good verbal bashing with the best of 'em and just say Thank You! I understand, and think it is kind of you to take in consideration a ladies feelings/situation. I can't count how many times I get calls, and clients are annoyed or surprised that I am not ready and waiting at their beck and call. I am glad that you aren't taking it personally, and that you learned a thing or two. We all could learn something from these types of scenarios. Good luck in your ventures and happy hobbying hon! xoxo, Samantha Sheppard 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 6, 2017 On 6/3/2017 at 0:51 AM, Vassago said: No, you didn't do anything wrong. Don't blame the architect. Stop worshiping women with GPS. Chances are pretty good she is just disorganized. Most of the time these days in Colorado, disorganization and often times disorientation is the reason they can't take care of business. I cant explain on these forums why this is a consistent problem without getting censored, but I think you can figure it out. Get over it/her find someone who isn't such a space cadet and spend your hard earned cash on a woman who will appreciate your business. I always blame the architect! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 8, 2017 On 6/4/2017 at 3:44 PM, 19moose75 said: Kali.. You put a smile on my face! Thanks. I guess I was worried that repeated phone calls, then e-mail, then maybe a PM would move beyond the casual 'Hi, I'm so-and-so and I'd like to meet you.' ..to.. 'Hi, I'm a horney asshole, and I'm going to bug the shit out of you till you answer me goddamnit!' (Didn't want to be the guy that causes posts like the one Chrissy started. Which I took to be a post about.. wait for it.. Pestering Prospective Providers) :: I'm typing this with a smart-ass smile on my face, attempting humor and sarcasm, not trying to start anything:: Moose, I totally got you! The point I was trying to make is that providers are human. Sometimes we make crazy ass mistakes. Sometimes we do have disorders/off days...yet for the most part we are human. As long as you try your best not say things that should (with a touch of class) not be said. The first treating will defiantly trigger my attention! Chances are I will respond back within the hour or so, same for the majority of the rest who are active, not sick, bad hair day providers. Sometimes while at my RW job it might take me a bit to get back to you. Please note tho...most of us will when approached with tact will answer you as soon as possible. Moose, it takes quite a bit for me to get offended. This forum seldom offended me😋 Yes! Often I giggle at most messages on here. Love keeping everything in balance. Think that's important! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
