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Low-Volume vs High-Volume

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3 minutes ago, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" ~Alister Crowley

Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

Ordinary morality is only for ordinary people.

We all know that there is no truthful answer. Laughing because seldom will the truth be spoken by either side. As long as it is cash all can be eaisally overlooked!

Afterall, this realm is a realm built on pLeAsUrEs and not that if TRUTH. 

😈Boo!

"Do what keepth thou from wilting, shall be the loophole in the Law."

~JR "Bob" Dobbs

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Thank you all for such great responses! Just got back from a business trip abroad and tuned back in. I understand the terms are very subjective. I suppose my definition of "low" vs "high" is the following (numerically speaking): Low = 6 gents per week; High = 15 per week. That's just me when quantitatively defining it in my mind. In reality it doesn't really matter to me, but I was just interested as I see it advertised all the time. Thanks

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Low: <3/week

High: >3/day

Please note the different time frames.  Even when a YL only works one day per week, if she sees 4 clients that day she is likely to encounter the negative aspects of high volume traffic. There's plenty of room to make a living between these.

But that's just my opinion. 😏

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3 hours ago, Bit Banger said:

Low: <3/week

High: >3/day

Please note the different time frames.  Even when a YL only works one day per week, if she sees 4 clients that day she is likely to encounter the negative aspects of high volume traffic. There's plenty of room to make a living between these.

But that's just my opinion. 😏

That's why we keep saying there is no point in putting a number on it. Anyone who is an escort is promiscuous by nature and time in between dicks doesn't erase the many dicks that have been seen before.

I personally kind of view the low volume tactic as slut shaming. The number is really no one's business unless it's low because it's seemingly something to be proud of. You generally don't hear providers humble brag about their high number because even here high volume is often looked down upon. I interpret low volume in ads as "I'm a ho but not that much of a ho as the next chick".

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15 hours ago, MrReindeer-9515 said:

"Do what keepth thou from wilting, shall be the loophole in the Law."

~JR "Bob" Dobbs

 Many loopholes and for now not much in the way of legality. Wilting to those suffering from the highs and lows of working such a business which has very little prediction. Truth  be no truth! 

 

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1 hour ago, Lucy Kitten said:

... I interpret low volume in ads as "I'm a ho but not that much of a ho as the next chick".

While I provided a direct answer to the high/low question, the number doesn't really mean much to me. I've seen ASPs turning 2-3 tricks/hr and I've seen ASPs turning 1 trick(me😜) in several weeks. What really matters is the quality & type of service. I expect a high volume gal to be more inclined to a 3G experience (which is fine if that's what I want/need). But that's not cast in stone, and neither is the converse.

i agree with your (quoted) comment regarding advertising.

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3 hours ago, Lucy Kitten said:

That's why we keep saying there is no point in putting a number on it. Anyone who is an escort is promiscuous by nature and time in between dicks doesn't erase the many dicks that have been seen before.

I personally kind of view the low volume tactic as slut shaming. The number is really no one's business unless it's low because it's seemingly something to be proud of. You generally don't hear providers humble brag about their high number because even here high volume is often looked down upon. I interpret low volume in ads as "I'm a ho but not that much of a ho as the next chick".

Hehheh, I just find it funny right now that guys who pay for it, and like to visit lots of girls, are being fussy about this topic.

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19 minutes ago, Bit Banger said:

While I provided a direct answer to the high/low question, the number doesn't really mean much to me. I've seen ASPs turning 2-3 tricks/hr and I've seen ASPs turning 1 trick(me😜) in several weeks. What really matters is the quality & type of service. I expect a high volume gal to be more inclined to a 3G experience (which is fine if that's what I want/need). But that's not cast in stone, and neither is the converse.

i agree with your (quoted) comment regarding advertising.

Numbers don't matter. That is all. There is no direct answer only opinions. What you've seen and what you expect of high volume providers only hurt the cause. When you say that you expect high volume ladies to be more 3G or clock watchers like someone else mentioned you put that out there for newb clients to read. They take it at face value and the shaming of high volume ladies continues.

 

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1 hour ago, Lucy Kitten said:

Numbers don't matter. That is all. There is no direct answer only opinions. ...

 

Pfft! Numbers do matter. Age is just a number. Right?  But if that number is 60 you're more likely to die in the next decade than if it's 30. And your life insurance premiums will reflect that statistic.

Yes, my (<3/wk vs. >3/day) is an opinion. One formed by my experiences. It and my comments about the likelihood of 3G or clock watchers are meant as a rule of thumb. But I don't recall shaming anyone in my remarks.

Wait, how many escorts have you seen over the last 50 years?

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Bit, they don't understand age and knowledge, which comes with maturity and time.

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5 hours ago, Lucy Kitten said:

That's why we keep saying there is no point in putting a number on it. Anyone who is an escort is promiscuous by nature and time in between dicks doesn't erase the many dicks that have been seen before.

I personally kind of view the low volume tactic as slut shaming. The number is really no one's business unless it's low because it's seemingly something to be proud of. You generally don't hear providers humble brag about their high number because even here high volume is often looked down upon. I interpret low volume in ads as "I'm a ho but not that much of a ho as the next chick".

I agree but sometimes ladies don't leave enough time to shower and get freshened up between clients. The "hooker bath" (wet wipes) is not likely to remove the smell of the previous client. I think high volume is subjective, but if going back to back to back starts to affect hygiene or the session in general, I'm thinking most men want to avoid that type of scenario. On the other hand, it's ridiculous to think that sleeping and waking up makes her a virgin again in the morning. 

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44 minutes ago, Bit Banger said:

Pfft! Numbers do matter. Age is just a number. Right?  But if that number is 60 you're more likely to die in the next decade than if it's 30. And your life insurance premiums will reflect that statistic.

Yes, my (<3/wk vs. >3/day) is an opinion. One formed by my experiences. It and my comments about the likelihood of 3G or clock watchers are meant as a rule of thumb. But I don't recall shaming anyone in my remarks.

Wait, how many escorts have you seen over the last 50 years?

LOLOLOLOL pulling out the old fart card? That's not how this works. The number of partners I've had is irrelevant unless you are a judgemental asshole. The number of escorts you've seen is also irrelevant.

You make your comments sound like the rule of thumb which is exactly what I said. It gives a shitty and false impression to newbies. And if it really isn't the norm why say it at all? Because it's impossible to not throw shade at a high volume ladies.

I think you also missed the part in the OP where it was asked what the ladies considered low/high volume. Not clients opinions about high volume ladies.

 

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On 05/16/2017 at 6:32 PM, Lucy Kitten said:

I am aware of what he meant. My point still stands, there is no first. There is no magical time that the pussy odometer rolls back to zero. It may not be an uncommon wish but it is an uncommon request. The opportunity to be dishonest is huge too. You may be the first client of the day but it doesn't mean that a provider didn't bone her partner that morning or spend all night boning some dude she picked up at a bar.

 

Which bar os that, please?

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9 hours ago, Lucy Kitten said:

... I think you also missed the part in the OP where it was asked what the ladies considered low/high volume. Not clients opinions about high volume ladies.

 

Oops! You're right - The OP asked the ladies a question. Perhaps it was placed in the wrong forum?

9 hours ago, Lucy Kitten said:

... The number of partners I've had is irrelevant unless you are a judgemental asshole. The number of escorts you've seen is also irrelevant.

For those paying attention in math class these numbers mean something. They define the sample size for an analysis, in this case of escort behavior.  A larger sample set leads to a more accurate survey.

I'll go out on a limb and guess that I've hired more escorts than you. This means that I have a larger statistical basis for my hypotheses.  Someone who sees the flavor of the week every week has an even stronger base.

Still on that limb I'd say that you have seen more clients than I have. That means you will have a better perspective of client behavior.

Statistics don't predict specific events, but rather general probabilities. They say that if you roll a pair of  dice 7 is more likely than any other result, yet still allow for a 2 or a 12.  Just as my statement that 'a high volume ASP is more likely to provide 3G service' allows for a range of services from GFE to rip-off. 

As for the 'old fart card', if you live long enough you will probably value it more. 

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5 hours ago, Unclehazard91 said:

Which bar os that, please?

Totally depends on the age of woman you're looking for 😛

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As to high or low volume and how many guys a lady sees I really don't care what-so-ever.  For some ladies it is a full time gig and only source of income.  For some it is almost a hobby or fetish - an occassional adventure.  Either way or anything in between it is none of my damn business unless she chooses to tell me.  What does matter is that when I see her she has had sufficient time since the last encounter to remove all discernible traces of him (or her!!) before she sees me.  If she can do that and see 20 guys a day, bless her!  If she can't manage that while only seeing 2 a week, I won't return.  Nothing kills the mood like smell of another guys aftershave and/or sweat or worse heading downtown for a snack and being greeted with taste of the lovely mix of latex and lube. (Could be even worse lol, but not going there,)  It is the quality of service that counts, not how many times it is rendered.  JMHO

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For me its based on how she treats me. 

Does she take sex and/or $$ for granted?  Then she's high volume.

 

The haves often times forget what its like to be a havenot, and treat the havenots with disdain or worse like an enemy.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Adriana Caliste said:

Absolutely!

I thought I quoted Lucy's post: I interpret low volume in ads as "I'm a ho but that much of a ho as the next chick."

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I tell my clients that this is the first time I hav ever done this. For some reason, they laugh at me...

Lighten up peeps, it is irrelevant how many we do see as long as you don't get the impression that you literally walked in after another guy just left. Quit worrying about it, come in and have fun or find yourself a new hobby!

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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Oops! I posted an error this AM (Blame it on the neighbors who showed up at 01:30 to set up camp last night.). The numbers 7 and 8 have an equal probability of showing when a pair of dice are thrown. 

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14 minutes ago, Bit Banger said:

Oops! I posted an error this AM (Blame it on the neighbors who showed up at 01:30 to set up camp last night.). The numbers 7 and 8 have an equal probability of showing when a pair of dice are thrown. 

Still fuzzy brain! I was right the first time!

For 7: 6/36

For 6 & 8: 5/36

For 5 & 9: 4/36

For 4 & 10: 3/36

For 3 & 11: 2/36

For 2 & 12: 1/36

DUH! 😕

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For me the fantasy starts long before we meet. 

I want to believe that she is looking forward to seeing me,  and that she thinks about what outfit to wear. I want to believe that she works another job and a couple of times a day, she thinks about and looks forward to our time together. I want to think that I will make her day better because she is happy to see me. I like to think that maybe she will remember my name. I don't want to think that I'm just another client in a long list of clients, much like waiting at the DMV. A low volume, gal who works another job, adds to that fantasy.... I know, I delusional. 

The other thread about having a nice dinner and time together is intriguing. 

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Perhaps the question (without beating this to the ground) should be, on the average how many gentlemen does a provider (not necessarily you) usually see in a week? Taking into consideration a busy week, and a not-so-busy week. You do the math; I'm very curious to see the answers ;)

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To me this kind of goes to atf's right?  Look at the various 411 questions about where did this provider go?  So if you like to move around so to speak I would think your chances of lower volume would be higher.  If you want to see an atf regularly and you want the provider around then likely theyll have to be higher volume in order to make a living (I know there are lots of variables).  like scarecrow said...she's just waiting and excited to see me.  As long as she doesn't break that illusion the question is moot.

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OK where did the first come from.  I said I don't want to be third in a short period of time. I also said I don't like clock watchers, but i respect time limits. If I pay for an hour I want it to be an hour maybe a FEW minutes longer to get ready and clean up. But seeing a provider who just had time to baby wipe and maybe comb her hair isn't for me. I want my provider to be fresh not sweaty from the llast encounter and with any luck into me (fake or not). I know this is a business and do not expect that a provider is just waiting for me.  I can't afford to keep a lady on call just for me and I would not trust one that said she was. I don't use Backpage for these reasons I have seen several of you who threw rocks at my post and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. Most of those who post here are professional enough that their clients don't feel like they are rushed or "just another john". That is why they are still here not in jail or on Backpage scheduling every 1.2 hours.  While I'm at it I might say that except for porn movies I  don't know any man who wants to DATY in a pussy with another guy's leavings in there. (condom or not). Sorry for the long diatribe, but who I see is not just biff, bang thank you M"am. I want a lady who screens, is "fresh" and if at all possible likes what she does.

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On 5/18/2017 at 5:05 PM, FuriousWeasel said:

Hehheh, I just find it funny right now that guys who pay for it, and like to visit lots of girls, are being fussy about this topic.

Was thinking the exact same thing...shame,shame,shame! Guess we all need to repent! Great call F.W.

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On 5/19/2017 at 4:26 PM, Kissit40 said:

Perhaps the question (without beating this to the ground) should be, on the average how many gentlemen does a provider (not necessarily you) usually see in a week? Taking into consideration a busy week, and a not-so-busy week. You do the math; I'm very curious to see the answers ;)

 

You first what's your number? How many people do have sex with a week? In your life? It's not anyone's business I think is the point trying to be made.

 

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And if this wasn't a escort board you wouldn't be wondering how many people she slept with in the past,Before taking her home from the bar!

 

Come on why must ladies in this industry be treated as if we are from another world. I know I had men like crazy in my younger days...

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On ‎5‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 1:49 PM, Lucy Kitten said:

If being "first" is important than maybe hobbying isn't for you? My whole point is that there is volume regardless. A provider can say whatever they want but you're not ever going to be the first. That's why I asked about real world volume. What's the time limit for "fresh"? It seems ridiculous to me to assume that anyone who is an escort is low volume by any standard. It's what we do.

 

 

Lucy for once I actually agree with you.  If she sees 40 a week or 3 a week, does it matter? 

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