Jenniferxj6

Dinner with client for free?

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 I think I'm going to dinner with clients for free twice and both times The guys alway wanted more for free🤦‍♀️Is it just me or  does this happen frequently .  I get lonely in my travel sometimes and would like to go to dinner with somebody I just don't want the problematic situations that have follow . In my travels  I like to come into town and then leave and not really talk to anybody from that town that works really well for me.  Because I have my own business at home I don't want them to to cross over eachother 

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Do you enjoy his company and dose he pay for dinner? Also he may be your atf! 

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There are occasions when I've had lunch or dinner with YL as part of a session.

Sometimes it's pre-arranged with  an evening rate slightly (25-50%) higher than a convential session; dinner first playtime later. Others occasions have been spur-of-the-moment. Near the end of a session I mention, "I'm headed to dinner. Would you care to join me?" If she says "Yes.", fine. If not, no big deal. Of course the meal is on me with no expectations other than conversation during dinner. 

Over the years I've made friends with several YL. Since BCD is their stock in trade, I always expect that to be compensated time, just as I would if asked a friend to do some plumbing or other professional task for which they would normally be compensated.

But you're right. It can be confusing and some fellas can get the wrong idea.  Be very clear up front as to expectations and gentlemen should understand. 

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To each there own but as a provider I provide time and companionship. 

Any time I spend with a client is for my donation. 

If you want to do dinner ok but budget in the hourly donation as it is time. 

Thank you for dinner,

Kisses

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2 hours ago, Jenniferxj6 said:

 I think I'm going to dinner with clients for free twice and both times The guys alway wanted more for free🤦‍♀️Is it just me or  does this happen frequently .  I get lonely in my travel sometimes and would like to go to dinner with somebody I just don't want the problematic situations that have follow . In my travels  I like to come into town and then leave and not really talk to anybody from that town that works really well for me.  Because I have my own business at home I don't want them to to cross over eachother 

You're sending two different signals with your post alone. "I get lonely in my travel sometimes and would like to go to dinner with somebody" and "In my travels  I like to come into town and then leave and not really talk to anybody from that town that works really well for me." For the most part, when it comes to subtle nuances, men are pretty thick. Don't confuse them further by sending them contradictory messages. That being said I've taken a few ladies out for food and or drinks AFTER a session. On only one occasion the lady and I went back to her room and the session continued longer than planned. I never asked for it. She really enjoyed my company and had nothing else lined up. At the end of the day people are people. People get lonely. Shit happens when you party naked. I'd say if it were me in your shoes, I'd just politely decline dinner invitations altogether and save confusion, since that's obviously not what you're looking for. Reasoning with clients about proper boundaries often times just proves useless. my 2 cents.

Dia Duit

 

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I need to rephrase my reply. I have paid for lunch companionship with no benefits. Last evening I did cook dinner for a Lady. Her SO texted her as to what's for dinner as he likes my cooking, a lot. She even complained about that, so I sent her off with Gumbo, Spaghetti, and Chile Verde. On more than one occasion I've lunched with peers, because we're hungry, and did the Pho thing twice in the last couple of weeks too. I need to learn to be more etiquette however when eating the Pho thing. Good stuff tho. All meals have been mutual, except usually on my dime. I do appreciate the company of lunch or dinner companion, dessert absolutely is not even necessary. 

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I'd like to think that there are those who are just clients for a provider, and then there are guys who are both friends and clients.   Where business is business, but then going out to lunch and just having a nice time that way is appropriate too.  Both need to be aware of boundaries.  When I take one of my special friends out to lunch, it's not a quid pro quo thing, because it's not a "date".  Sure we might talk shop, but also talk about families, current events, everything just like friends do when they go out to lunch.  I might be after a session, it might just be that there's some free time for both of us.  It might just be "Hey, I found this new restaurant I think you'd enjoy!" and when I'm right, that makes me pretty darn happy.

It will always depend on the boundaries that are set though, and I will respect that.  I know that some providers have hard walls between work and private time and that's a good thing too, everyone deserves their boundaries.  

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28 minutes ago, FuriousWeasel said:

I'd like to think that there are those who are just clients for a provider, and then there are guys who are both friends and clients.    ...

It will always depend on the boundaries that are set though, and I will respect that.  I know that some providers have hard walls between work and private time and that's a good thing too, everyone deserves their boundaries.  

This is where YMMV plays a major factor. And it works both ways. Some escorts are just escorts and never get that invitation to dinner.

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13 hours ago, Jenniferxj6 said:

 I think I'm going to dinner with clients for free twice and both times The guys alway wanted more for free🤦‍♀️Is it just me or  does this happen frequently .  I get lonely in my travel sometimes and would like to go to dinner with somebody I just don't want the problematic situations that have follow . In my travels  I like to come into town and then leave and not really talk to anybody from that town that works really well for me.  Because I have my own business at home I don't want them to to cross over eachother 

It is easy to get lonely when you travel, BUT remember that this is a business where are getting paid for "Time & Companionship". A good number of clients and providers can keep the two separate even finishing a good time with dinner, but I have found that if you give a client anything free(even something as simple as eating out) they will take it further with thinking you want more, or more time alone, etc.

This may sound cold, but us ladies are commodities...we dress up, put on our makeup, take a shower, and look our best to give a client the best hour or two of his life. You need to maximize that by allowing them to take you out to eat with a fee you are happy with. If you look at some of the top notch women, in the world, you will see they make packages just for these things. You are beautiful girl, and don't need to sell yourself short because you are lonely. Work it girl!!!

You are not the only one that thinks like this...I am just like you that I want to get to a town, do my thing, and leave quietly. A good idea for the loneliness is maybe find another provider that you trust that would be willing to travel with you on occasion. It can be tough to find a lady, but it is nice to have someone that understands and empathizes with what you do.

If you have any questions, or want to throw some ideas around to get a feel for what is best for you, just call...I know how it feels for you! Good luck and be safe!

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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14 hours ago, Jenniferxj6 said:

 I think I'm going to dinner with clients for free twice and both times The guys alway wanted more for free🤦‍♀️Is it just me or  does this happen frequently .  I get lonely in my travel sometimes and would like to go to dinner with somebody I just don't want the problematic situations that have follow . In my travels  I like to come into town and then leave and not really talk to anybody from that town that works really well for me.  Because I have my own business at home I don't want them to to cross over eachother 

It's really explained in your first sentence. By going to dinner for free, guys think, "DATE".  At the end ( or somewhere) of DATE, guys think, "SEX". You can't blame the guy for being a guy and this issue is 100% ON YOU. I am not attacking you, but think about it. Ladies in this business usually have rules and boundaries, but clearly and rightly expect to be treated like what they are...human ladies first before providers. Well, not working  you goes out on a DATE with a regular guy , he is gonna try to get some. 

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1 hour ago, FuriousWeasel said:

I'd like to think that there are those who are just clients for a provider, and then there are guys who are both friends and clients.   Where business is business, but then going out to lunch and just having a nice time that way is appropriate too.  Both need to be aware of boundaries.  When I take one of my special friends out to lunch, it's not a quid pro quo thing, because it's not a "date".  Sure we might talk shop, but also talk about families, current events, everything just like friends do when they go out to lunch.  I might be after a session, it might just be that there's some free time for both of us.  It might just be "Hey, I found this new restaurant I think you'd enjoy!" and when I'm right, that makes me pretty darn happy.

It will always depend on the boundaries that are set though, and I will respect that.  I know that some providers have hard walls between work and private time and that's a good thing too, everyone deserves their boundaries.  

I think there are those that are good clients, good friends and still strictly business. Those are the types I tend to prefer. I have never had a friendly not-date that ended well. It's usually one of two things that happen, mixed signals are sent and then there are different expectations or I confide in someone that wants to be a "friend" and all of a sudden all of my personal business is everywhere.

Personally I think both clients and providers alike need to rethink off the clock time. If this is a business of time and companionship both are being given when on a friendly non-date. I was kinda slow and Samantha made some good points. A provider should keep business business. Off the clock time with client friends is free time and providers need to watch that because over time it adds up. I tend to believe that clients should compensate for all time spent with them, maybe not cough up the whole fee but some gesture that shows you appreciate the time given. Pay for dinner and leave your non-date a tip especially if it's a special friend.

 

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1 hour ago, Lucy Kitten said:

I think there are those that are good clients, good friends and still strictly business. Those are the types I tend to prefer. I have never had a friendly not-date that ended well. It's usually one of two things that happen, mixed signals are sent and then there are different expectations or I confide in someone that wants to be a "friend" and all of a sudden all of my personal business is everywhere.

Personally I think both clients and providers alike need to rethink off the clock time. If this is a business of time and companionship both are being given when on a friendly non-date. I was kinda slow and Samantha made some good points. A provider should keep business business. Off the clock time with client friends is free time and providers need to watch that because over time it adds up. I tend to believe that clients should compensate for all time spent with them, maybe not cough up the whole fee but some gesture that shows you appreciate the time given. Pay for dinner and leave your non-date a tip especially if it's a special friend.

 

Good idea Lucy!

Another thing I didn't think about is not letting clients know you are alone. For safety reasons, they should always think you are here with someone like a girlfriend, visiting family, or something pertaining to that. Someone always knows where I am, and I keep tabs with them on what I am doing for safety. That should even extend to outings. You can never be too careful in this industry.

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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10 hours ago, fishndude57 said:

I need to rephrase my reply. I have paid for lunch companionship with no benefits. Last evening I did cook dinner for a Lady. Her SO texted her as to what's for dinner as he likes my cooking, a lot. She even complained about that, so I sent her off with Gumbo, Spaghetti, and Chile Verde. On more than one occasion I've lunched with peers, because we're hungry, and did the Pho thing twice in the last couple of weeks too. I need to learn to be more etiquette however when eating the Pho thing. Good stuff tho. All meals have been mutual, except usually on my dime. I do appreciate the company of lunch or dinner companion, dessert absolutely is not even necessary. 

Let me get this straight. So an escorts husband knows about you and likes your cooking? 

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My two cents - I have had dinner or lunch with providers once I have developed a friendship with, and this time was off the clock.  In all instances we either had play time before or after the meal. 

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Those few occasions when someone wanted to spend time with me just to enjoy my company, without any financial or alternative motives, was one of the biggest complements in my life. In todays world, it seems everyone's working an angle. 

If she wanted to just talk to me, because she was interested in sharing her thoughts with me, that would be a big complement, but it comes with confusion. I would wonder if it was an awkward first date with goals of something more in the future? Should I expect time alone if I paid for dinner? If I offered to pay for time after dinner would that be disrespectful to her intentions? The entire dinner, my mind would be spinning with questions. 

For the best dinner together, for me, it would be about communication. If she said "would you like to join me for dinner, some good food, good conversation, a hug after dinner and we go our own ways?", I would be at ease. Now I can focus on remembering my manners, using the right fork, and keeping my elbows off the table... and focus on enjoying a dinner with a beautiful interesting woman.

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4 hours ago, lakerboy24 said:

Let me get this straight. So an escorts husband knows about you and likes your cooking? 

No her BF. Her kids like it too. I don't date married women. I used to see this lady but now we just talk, eat and fish together. Her BF thinks I'm a good influence for her.

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Have gone to dinner and lunches with ladies off the clock before, without extras after. Traveling ladies are usually here alone, after several appointments if it was around lunch or dinner have gone with them to eat.

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On 5/4/2017 at 7:21 PM, Jenniferxj6 said:

 I think I'm going to dinner with clients for free twice and both times The guys alway wanted more for free🤦‍♀️Is it just me or  does this happen frequently .  I get lonely in my travel sometimes and would like to go to dinner with somebody I just don't want the problematic situations that have follow . 

   I've had the pleasure of breaking bread with countless escorts,models and porn stars off the clock and never expected or pushed for anything free afterwards.Some of us know where and when to draw the line.

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Sometimes people become friends. 

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12 hours ago, lakerboy24 said:

Let me get this straight. So an escorts husband knows about you and likes your cooking? 

That is not exactly a unusual thing....

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20 minutes ago, Nikki Holiday said:

Sometimes people become friends. 

In our adventures, I've had a few pretty ladies here that my wife and myself have become friends with. We've had them over for dinner.Nothing but dinner and some fine talking and good times. (no sex)  Gone on long rides on the Harley's and at one time gave one of our friends a ride home when her car wouldn't start when it was cold out. (she was seeing another person at the time) I was glad to help out....

So, there can be friendship, it just depends on your personal level of acceptance.

My personal advice to all, see the women that you think you might connect with. See the women you think you might trust.

You might end up with a good friend. That right there is a really great thing!

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I have a regular client that has been with me for the entirety of my time in this business... Sometimes when it's slow, and I'm just sitting at home watching TV, I will send him a text and see if he wants to hang out ( he is unattatched).  We just shoot the shit, like friends do, and when I get a call I leave, and he's cool with it.  Sometimes when he is bored, he will send me a text and ask if I want to hang out.. I ALWAYS ask if it's for a session or just to hang out, and he always specifies.  We have a great friendship, and a great business relationship... it can be done 😉...

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I love when I meet new friends through a business relationship.  And eating alone can suck sometimes.  No big deal for me to have complex friendships and arrangements.

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I have gone to meet clients to screen them for lunch or dinner... and they pay... I never include that time as part of session though... and sometimes people  try take advantage of that as well....

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10 hours ago, JRWolfe said:

   I've had the pleasure of breaking bread with countless escorts,models and porn stars off the clock and never expected or pushed for anything free afterwards.Some of us know where and when to draw the line.

For gosh sakes, if I were so lucky enough to have a lovely lady join me for a dinner (or whatever) off the clock, I would be so thrilled to be getting time and companionship for free, the last thing I would think of was pushing my luck and asking for additional freebie sporting activities.  In such a hypothetical situation, I am sure that I would suggest a little after-dinner activity, but for that I think you have to be willing to pull out your wallet.

Sometimes, after a visit, my ATATF needs a ride somewhere, and I am thrilled to be able to help.  In such cases, we are both very grateful - she is grateful because she doesn't have to pay for Uber (and maybe she enjoys the companionship), and I am grateful for the opportunity to spend more time with her, just hanging out, listening to music, and talking on the way.

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3 hours ago, BadBoy said:

For gosh sakes, if I were so lucky enough to have a lovely lady join me for a dinner (or whatever) off the clock, I would be so thrilled to be getting time and companionship for free, the last thing I would think of was pushing my luck and asking for additional freebie sporting activities.  

        Well, my situations are different. 

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I've done this more than once.

In texas, I arranged a meeting via ECCIE chat, and told the YL I had to get dinner first, she invited herself along. 

In Canada, I had a session, as we were wrapping up I commented that I was going out, the YL invited herself along, and led to a 2nd session that night. More of a intermission between two fully paid sessions. 

 

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On 5/4/2017 at 10:20 PM, Kandi Apple said:

To each there own but as a provider I provide time and companionship. 

Any time I spend with a client is for my donation. 

If you want to do dinner ok but budget in the hourly donation as it is time. 

Thank you for dinner,

Kisses

Yes I do believe I will be sticking to that  also . Thanks for the kick in the ass I needed that 👌💋

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18 hours ago, Bella Marie said:

I have gone to meet clients to screen them for lunch or dinner... and they pay... I never include that time as part of session though... and sometimes people  try take advantage of that as well....

Wow good . But I screen without a meeting first . Just my thing I guess. I very privet in my personal life. 

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6 hours ago, JRWolfe said:

        Well, my situations are different. 

I would think so also. You sound very perfect.👌💋🌹🕊. Wish all Gentelmen felt that way.  I'm sure they get off On it. Just is gross and then I feel yuucky . So ! Rule s are rules 😃😃😃 de a great provider then shut it! Lol🎬⏰honesty is best.

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