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I have an iPhone so I'm already winking and talking dirty to the CIA.😂😂

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Somewhere right now, George Orwell is vindicated.

#notjustanovelanymore

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I'm with Laci: we have been spied on, be it corporate or gubmint groups, for a long time now. Not happy with Congress's move, and writing letters to my reps, but I would be more concerned re: a different move by Verizon: they will be installing spyware to track your every app move.

http://slashdot.org/story/324307

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17 minutes ago, Laci French said:

I have an iPhone so I'm already winking and talking dirty to the CIA.😂😂

Probably a GMan on the other end considering masturbation as a result of your actions;)

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They picked it up from Wikileaks, takes the pressure off them. Stoopid Wikileaks. 

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8 hours ago, Laci French said:

I have an iPhone so I'm already winking and talking dirty to the CIA.😂😂

Now that wouldn't surprie me at all. :P

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Even without this, LE can subpoena an internet provider for your info. In most cases, they give it up, no questions asked.

If you're not using a VPN, you should be.

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31 minutes ago, daaacz said:

If you're not using a VPN, you should be.

 

I've considered it for a while now and did some research, but it's not user-friendly yet. You have to be kind of a hacker to be able to use a VPN both on your computer and phone at the same time.

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There's a lot of things to know about this.  First off, this doesn't require ISPs to do anything, it's just allowing them to do so if they choose.  So it might be worth while to shop around for the ones that pledge not to sell your data.  And with all the backlash against this, you know a lot of them will choose the safer route rather than lose tons of customers.  New ISPs will start up knowing they can charge maybe a buck or two extra a month for people worried about their privacy, which is more than they'd make selling the data for an individual customer.  

Second, of the ones that do decide to sell to advertisers, many may choose to sell data in aggregate, which means that rather than them say User X goes to these websites all the time, etc., it's just as useful for them to say "Out of our million customers, about 700 thousand visit Facebook every day, 3 thousand visit Maytag.com, 50 go to allgoatsexallthetime.net, etc" which is much less privacy intruding.

Finally, who do you think they're selling to?  They're not going to sell to people with axes to grind, they're going to sell to advertisers to help better target ads when you're browsing, and help deciding what junk mail to send you.  

Even then, there are countermeasures which help.  First off and the easiest, is to make sure you don't use your ISP's DNS servers.  Most people anymore have a home router, and there are settings in there, and just put in rather than using the DNS servers the ISP gives you, change it to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 which are the Google DNS servers.  DNS queries are one of the easiest and most accurate ways for them to track who goes to what website.  

Next up is a VPN service, all of which work a little different and have different levels of service.  Some are easier to use on both home and mobile devices, some are slower because they're overloaded, all sorts of issues occur.  There are also proxy servers which are easier to use than VPNs and will also get you out from your ISP's prying eyes.  If you're using a proxy or VPN, all the ISPs can tell is that out of the thousand people connected, someone is on TOB all day long.  Or it could be 24 users on, each for an hour... but your local ISP would be blind to what you're doing.

For when you get really paranoid, you can choose to use the TOR browser for things you want to be extra discreet about.  The best way to describe that is, you know how when you watch CSI or Criminal Minds, and the computer tech needs to track the criminal, except "They're bouncing from servers in the US, to the Ukraine, to South Africa, to England, to Antartica, etc"?  TOR is what the writers are modeling this little trope after, except it's not nearly that easy to accomplish.  Not truly impossible, but unless you're truly an international terrorist, it won't happen.  And with TOR, there's a single button you can click that will completely change all those bounce points when you click it.  There's an organization in the Springs that does a lot of offensive security work for three letter agencies, and it still fails to find the culprit more often than not.  

There are still other countermeasures you can take if these aren't enough and you have enough technical skills.  

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As best as I understand this most recent slide back toward fascism, it only applies to the internet service providers.  The big spies and stealers of your information - google, facebook, and on and on, most social media sites, your web browser, your smart phone, and now your voice mail - visual voice mail f**k off!! have already been doing this unimpeded all along and will continue to do so.  The main difference is it is one thing to hide your info from social media and web browser, but another all together to keep it from the service provider that allows you to access the internet at all.  On the bright side, perhaps msn and others will start offering targetted escort ads in the margin and already have screened for my taste!!! Serious sarcasm on the latter.

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On 3/31/2017 at 10:22 AM, FuriousWeasel said:

"Out of our million customers, about 700 thousand visit Facebook every day, 3 thousand visit Maytag.com, 50 go to allgoatsexallthetime.net, etc"

Make that 51 *wink*

Thanks for the tip!

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On 3/31/2017 at 9:48 AM, Erin_CO said:

I've considered it for a while now and did some research, but it's not user-friendly yet. You have to be kind of a hacker to be able to use a VPN both on your computer and phone at the same time.

Look at tunnelbear and protonmail... pretty easy.   Robot and orfox for android too

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1 hour ago, Unclehazard91 said:

Look at tunnelbear and protonmail... pretty easy.   Robot and orfox for android too

OK thanks! I'll look at them

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3 hours ago, Erin_CO said:

OK thanks! I'll look at them

Look at the thread I started last month and posted here too....

 

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I'm single and really don't give a flying fuck. I look at naked ladies and visit escort boards OHHHH!!!!! I look at porn now and again and have occasional phone sex. As far as I know none of that is illegal. Now don't get me wrong...I've fired off emails to my reps as well because I think privacy is important and I want the govt out of my shit but we gave up privacy a looooooonnnggg time ago. 

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