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3 minutes ago, SultryKitten said:

Here is what I found about it!

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/09/backpage-shutters-u-s-escort-ads-after-senate-report/

I had a feeling this was going to happen, and I had a couple of weeks ago started advertising in different avenues. This is what happens when you don't screen who is advertising, and it is allowing sex trafficking to get out of hand. If TOB, ECCIE,  EROS, and TER are smart...they will still keep screening for legitimate ladies. I am shocked just as everyone is, but I am not unhappy about it.

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

Personally I think we should all be unhappy about it. We're lucky that we have a popular local back up. Like Audrey mentioned there are some parts of the country where only backpage was used and not all the remaining options are great. Not to offend the Texas people but eccie is a shit show and TER is even worse. This timing with BP couldn't have come at a worse time,

I haven't actually been screened by many advertising sites. BackPage couldn't screen and didn't have to. They aren't specifically an adult advertising venue. BP allowing sex trafficking to get out of hand is what Kamala Harris wants you to believe but has no stats to prove it. And it's an unfair accusation, any adult site can be easily manipulated by pimps and traffickers. Every site we've used is guilty of what BP has been accused of they were just the largest target.

I know it sounds weird because we like to demonize BP but it was a safe space for sex workers. If anyone watched that TED talk this is the kinda thing that hurts women. Instead of having pimps and traffickers at the surface we've pushed them further underground and in the process we've limited the abilities of the consenting adult sex worker. If this loss ends up being permanent lots of our fellow sex workers will suffer. And we with resources might too.

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When I started to hobby, Craigslist was the main site and BP was a little blip on the screen.  When CL went down, then everyone moved to BP.  I don't know which site will have the national presence, but I'm sure one will rise sooner than later.

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57 minutes ago, Lucy Kitten said:

 Without BackPage there isn't much competition. We ladies didn't become more valuable the remaining sites did. 

Yeah and the guys on TOB will value us ladies MORE! Most of us have reviews, we're verified and it's going to take a while for everyone to catch up. 

The girls on Backpage who don't know about this site, will either go away or figure it out. I personally feel like this is a huge opportunity to have more business. Which is why we just became more valuable. 

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3 minutes ago, Melissa Sterling said:

Yeah and the guys on TOB will value us ladies MORE! Most of us have reviews, we're verified and it's going to take a while for everyone to catch up. 

The girls on Backpage who don't know about this site, will either go away or figure it out. I personally feel like this is a huge opportunity to have more business. Which is why we just became more valuable. 

Absolutely Melissa... 👄👄👄👆👆👆👆😆😆😆😆

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Lucy Kitten, you are NOT kidding about eccie in Texas.  What a drama filled board.  I turned to Backpage there because I couldn't stand the drama and I did GREAT on the body rub section.  I don't know why backpage was such a bad thing either.  I did fine and met some awesome guys on there.  I made the mistake of hanging around Colorado Springs for a couple of weeks and that was a mess.  I'm hoping Denver is kinder and easier on us ladies.

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1 hour ago, Melissa Sterling said:

Well we're either headed into the dark ages and street walking, or TOB girls just became A LOT more valuable. This site just became the only game in town. Yeah there's eccie, but that's not a Colorado board. 

Agreed. But I think sites like TOB may not be too far behind......

BP is now dead, thanks to the people who think we should be in church every day. Remember, every time a law is passed, we lose another freedom.

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16 minutes ago, BigBaldBlk said:

When I started to hobby, Craigslist was the main site and BP was a little blip on the screen.  When CL went down, then everyone moved to BP.  I don't know which site will have the national presence, but I'm sure one will rise sooner than later.

And then be shut down like the others.

Sad....

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BP girls will use the massage section and the dating sections.  Until that is shut down so it's not dead yet

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Being a 55 yr old Blackman,I am glad backpage got shutdown since I couldn't get the ladies I wanted to see to give me a chance and the ones that did turned out to look nothing like there pics...two thumbs up for the courts who shutdown backpage👍

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If there is a "silver lining" to this, from the press release that we all are seeing on the Backpage site, the owners have put significant effort into preparing for this and are eager to wage a legal fight against the government tactics that forced them to shut down: " new government tactics, including pressuring credit card companies to cease doing business with Backpage, have left the company with no other choice but to remove the content in the United States."

The support they list in the press release ranges from comments by a respected federal judge (Judge Richard Posner described such tactics as "a formula for permitting unauthorized, unregulated, foolproof, lawless government coercion'") to this unexpected ally:

“It's a sad day for America's children victimized by prostitution,” said Dr. Lois Lee, Founder and President, Children of the Night, a leading national hotline and shelter program for victims of sex trafficking based in Los Angeles. “Backpage.com was a critical investigative tool depended on by America's vice detectives and agents in the field to locate and recover missing children ..."

 

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1 hour ago, Melissa Sterling said:

Yeah and the guys on TOB will value us ladies MORE! Most of us have reviews, we're verified and it's going to take a while for everyone to catch up.

i doubt it......it will be the same as usual.

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"Well some of us where very legit.

Like me for starters so not good riddance.  There is A LOT of scared single mommies right now.  Trust me..."

 

Amen sister! I'm one of the freaked out legitimate BP girls, completely reliant on that site for my income! If anyone wants to show me the TOB ropes, I'd be so happy. Already have some reviews here, just need to get a feel for advertising and how many clients this page brings in. Fingers crossed for all of us. ♡

 

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Thank goodness I have a few saved phone numbers of ladies I've seen and even though not always great there are still the AMPS

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wait till you see the prices go up from the ladies on t.o.b , then you'll respect BP!

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I can't help but get a little angry when someone is happy about this.

You have to idea how many scared providers I'm text with tonight.  Heck, it's 3am and I can't sleep cause I'm totally scared and unraddled by this.

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Back page has been notorious for LE Stings and bait and switch for so long that I did not advertise with them for the last couple of years. 

All I got was some want to be pimp and hagglers calling me at all hours asking dumb questions. 

I won't miss the 411 section on TOB being flooded with questions about so an so on BP neither. 

BP scams should start to diminish and the review section of TOB can actually have less rip off reviews.

There are other resources and ladies out there will figure it out. 

 

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Holy crap :-( I just can't even believe it!!!! Well now this is going to make things even uglier. :-(

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1 hour ago, Kandi Apple said:

Back page has been notorious for LE Stings and bait and switch for so long that I did not advertise with them for the last couple of years. 

All I got was some want to be pimp and hagglers calling me at all hours asking dumb questions. 

I won't miss the 411 section on TOB being flooded with questions about so an so on BP neither. 

BP scams should start to diminish and the review section of TOB can actually have less rip off reviews.

There are other resources and ladies out there will figure it out. 

 

And the scams and fake photos and le stings and everything else negative will just move there. The only way to combat that is have the site screen ladies. If that doesn't happen then the community will do as we do and put a 411 section up for that site and the dance will continue. Some ladies, as stated, have already moved their ads to other places in the same venue so once they figure it out I think it's going to be business as usual until the over zealous govt shuts that down as well. 

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Ladies are posting in the dating section and us body rub ladies will post in the massage section.  Guys will figure it out

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There's a Japanese proverb: The mail that sticks up gets pounded down. 

I've been expecting this. Ever since the capitulation of CL, BP had a target on its back. Since the gang of DAs didn't get the job done (like CL), Sheriff Dart (IL) targeted them through the credit card companies. He got his hand slapped, but the damage was done & the credit cards stayed away. Still BP soldiered on. Then they (CA) went after the principles with criminal charges. Then Congress hit them with a massive document request, a fishing expedition some would say. 

Some of the p4p moved into the Dating section after CL took down their escort section, but it didn't really fly. I suspect too many flags. Besides it's just too confusing, mixing p4p with those seeking a relationship. I expect similar results now on BP. 

Who's next?  My guess is ECCIE, or possibly TNA. But ECCIE, at least in TX, has some strict vetting rules for providers. That may keep the wolves at bay for a while. 

I'm not sure that the expansion of TOB into a national board is a good thing; makes us a more attractive target. 

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People will post on other sections of bp for a while, but the site will die due to lack of income. Pervasive internet surveillance will eventually mean there's no way to safely engage in this hobby. Pervasive street cameras, phone tracking and facial recognition could even shut down streetwalking. 

How creepy was it the other day when I forgot to turn off my phone and the next day Google places wanted to know if mon chalet was usually crowded.

Are there any .onion review sites?

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Just wait open season on civil liberties doesn't officially start for another ten days. 

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It's true but bp will go under from lack of income. It's free to post in those sections, no?

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This really sucks for those of us who preferred the company of young adults 18-25 providers. Typically they start out on bp or cl before discovering sites like this - if they even need to, some of us preferred to find regular utr things that went on for years, when my current one moves away, looks like it'll be harder to find another.

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9 hours ago, Lucy Kitten said:

Personally I think we should all be unhappy about it. We're lucky that we have a popular local back up. Like Audrey mentioned there are some parts of the country where only backpage was used and not all the remaining options are great. Not to offend the Texas people but eccie is a shit show and TER is even worse. This timing with BP couldn't have come at a worse time,

I haven't actually been screened by many advertising sites. BackPage couldn't screen and didn't have to. They aren't specifically an adult advertising venue. BP allowing sex trafficking to get out of hand is what Kamala Harris wants you to believe but has no stats to prove it. And it's an unfair accusation, any adult site can be easily manipulated by pimps and traffickers. Every site we've used is guilty of what BP has been accused of they were just the largest target.

I know it sounds weird because we like to demonize BP but it was a safe space for sex workers. If anyone watched that TED talk this is the kinda thing that hurts women. Instead of having pimps and traffickers at the surface we've pushed them further underground and in the process we've limited the abilities of the consenting adult sex worker. If this loss ends up being permanent lots of our fellow sex workers will suffer. And we with resources might too.

That is what I thought after it had sunk in a bit, and you are probably right. I am not sure if providers will suffer, but it will definitely change our advertising. If guys want to see us, they will find us. The government can keep trying to block us, but we always find venues to play, converse, and market. I think it being public the way it was lead to no filter between people that don't want to know it's existence to the ones that do. Bad in my opinion, and it set up to fail. Places like TOB are not readily public so they aren't in the media consistently, and threatened to be shut down.

I do worry for girls that are being pimped, or doing this against their will, and I hope that by shutting down BP they won't go underground. I do, unfortunately, believe that will be the case and LE will have to find other tactics to get to them.

Xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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I have been burnt by bp providers like everyone else and had sworn it off.  Saw an ad for a girl that, will write a review, posts for a month or two very irregularly.  She attends a high level, academically know southern university and is an upperclassman. She did help but it is gone so she alternates semesters, escorting and going to school. Because of her major she goes to a different part of the country to escort. She would never finish trying to work at McDonalds or whatever.

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