SultryKitten

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I have been thinking that maybe us ladies should link to ladies that we only approve of. That lets the guys know that we know these ladies and their legitimacy, and that if anyone is not on that page than we either haven't met them or do not credit them.

Also, saying on there that we are "reference friendly" and our protocol without revealing our system of screening.

I have been seriously thinking of setting up a "friend" page on my website with that thought in mind. Thoughts?

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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Great idea, but I can see soooooo many things going wrong unfortunately :-(

 

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I think for me it leads to too many problems. There are some ladies I like and some I don't like. I wouldn't list those that I don't care for because I don't like them not because I disapprove they could be and usually are great providers but it's personal. And then it becomes problematic. If Sally Streetwalker doesn't have Heather Ho on her list is she not approved of? But Tracy Tart has them both on her list.

There used to be someone, not here, that had a reference campaign of sorts. It was a little ribbon that you put on your website to let clients and other providers know that you are reference friendly. I like that idea a lot.

 

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1 hour ago, Lucy Kitten said:

I think for me it leads to too many problems. There are some ladies I like and some I don't like. I wouldn't list those that I don't care for because I don't like them not because I disapprove they could be and usually are great providers but it's personal. And then it becomes problematic. If Sally Streetwalker doesn't have Heather Ho on her list is she not approved of? But Tracy Tart has them both on her list.

There used to be someone, not here, that had a reference campaign of sorts. It was a little ribbon that you put on your website to let clients and other providers know that you are reference friendly. I like that idea a lot.

 

I partially agree, and I regard highly who I refer to my clients so that is why I am hesitant to do it because when I say that I will refer my guy to you...I am saying I trust you to treat him right. One of the things I get is guys asking me about certain girls, and I thought it might be easier if they knew who I refer by allowing them to put a link on a page.

It is tough to know which girls are reference friendly, and I think the ribbon idea is cool because nothing is more annoying that calling some chick that is not happy to hear from you.

I don't think it should include ladies that I have not met, but I want the guys to know who my "girlfriends" are and that I think they are cool to see.

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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1 hour ago, Wendy Whitney said:

Great idea, but I can see soooooo many things going wrong unfortunately :-(

 

That is the part I worry about.

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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1 hour ago, SultryKitten said:

I partially agree, and I regard highly who I refer to my clients so that is why I am hesitant to do it because when I say that I will refer my guy to you...I am saying I trust you to treat him right. One of the things I get is guys asking me about certain girls, and I thought it might be easier if they knew who I refer by allowing them to put a link on a page.

It is tough to know which girls are reference friendly, and I think the ribbon idea is cool because nothing is more annoying that calling some chick that is not happy to hear from you.

I don't think it should include ladies that I have not met, but I want the guys to know who my "girlfriends" are and that I think they are cool to see.

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

It used to be trendy. Remember the days of swapping banners? I like the idea of providers promoting each other but I think that's where it should stop. I am happy to provide a suggestion to a guy looking or if I'm not available but I would rather do that privately. I just don't want the accountability.

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48 minutes ago, Lucy Kitten said:

It used to be trendy. Remember the days of swapping banners? I like the idea of providers promoting each other but I think that's where it should stop. I am happy to provide a suggestion to a guy looking or if I'm not available but I would rather do that privately. I just don't want the accountability.

I think I am going to wait since the new shitstorm arrived. Oy vey!

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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I'm reference friendly to every provider.:D I don't pick and choose based on my personal thoughts or feelings.

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1 hour ago, Laci French said:

I'm reference friendly to every provider.:D I don't pick and choose based on my personal thoughts or feelings.

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I do not discriminate! if a prpvider or client needs a reference I'm going to give it. 

Like I have specified before I'm going to check you out first "ladies".

I'm not into sending one of my clients to a provider that has bad intentions or has a rep for being stupid.

Under any circumstances I never put a client under my radar because they didn't review me or things were not Super spectacular.

All of our chemistry is different we have good days we have bad days, some people we click with some people we don't.

That does not mean that they are sideways or bad.

I enjoy a variety so therefore any client of mine can be any client of yours. I know the gentleman look at it this way also when it comes to providers.

Everyone needs some spice in their life. We only live once so enjoy it while you can!

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3 hours ago, Laci French said:

I'm reference friendly to every provider.:D I don't pick and choose based on my personal thoughts or feelings.

But will you list on your site the providers that you approve of? I think that was the OPs question.

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9 minutes ago, Lucy Kitten said:

But will you list on your site the providers that you approve of? I think that was the OPs question.

Not my decision to make. If I'm asked I will give a reference and it is up to the gentleman to do his research.

 

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Let me clarify.

I am talking about ladies that I have met, worked with, actually have been reference friendly for me. I am reference friendly for all ladies, but I know ladies that won't even provide them. I would clarify on my page who is a "girlfriend"(who I play with), who I recommend for guys that want to venture, and ones who are reference friendly that I know about. I thought it would give the guys a piece of mind to know that some of us ladies are a community and do work together.

Heck, I have been seriously pondering having a "50 Shades Darker" party with a few of you ladies. Us ladies need a naughty night of fun! ;-)

I haven't seen any men input anything and that makes me wonder if they find that uncomfortable, or they don't know what to say.

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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1 hour ago, SultryKitten said:

Let me clarify.

I am talking about ladies that I have met, worked with, actually have been reference friendly for me. I am reference friendly for all ladies, but I know ladies that won't even provide them. I would clarify on my page who is a "girlfriend"(who I play with), who I recommend for guys that want to venture, and ones who are reference friendly that I know about. I thought it would give the guys a piece of mind to know that some of us ladies are a community and do work together.

Heck, I have been seriously pondering having a "50 Shades Darker" party with a few of you ladies. Us ladies need a naughty night of fun! ;-)

I haven't seen any men input anything and that makes me wonder if they find that uncomfortable, or they don't know what to say.

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

Samantha,

I wouldn't take the non-response as a sign we aren't interested in the outcome.  Just seemed like more of a provider driven thread.

I read a lot of the forum posts before I jumped in and maybe should have read more.  It's a little head-spinning (pun maybe intended)!  One can observe that there are some personality clashes that are very public, but impossible to figure out who all is a part of the friendly group or groups. And as Lucy pointed out, those may differ between various parties.  I might add that they would probably change over time.

All that said, a way to figure out who works together, more than those offering duos which is obvious, would be a nice feature for us guys in my opinion.  How to do that so it is convenient for you and doesn't add drama to your life would be the big question.

And just maybe the BP fallout makes it that much more enticing?

Just my two cents!

Anthony

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2 hours ago, SabrinaLynn said:

But how are you posting on ToB I've used ever card I can think of now I'm using a card that a well reviewed lady uses and it's not working ugggh

I would contact them, and see why your card isn't working. It could have something to do with your profile maybe? I am just guessing here.

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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It sounds like a sort of roadmap, which could be nice.

I find myself weighing ads for gorgeous providers wondering, "Will I get a reference out of this?" Because there are a few providers that I'd like to visit but require references.  but figuring out which other providers are "gateway" providers could be a lot of trial and error. Some will refer, some won't. Not super excited to spend the hard earned cash on a dead end. 

Now if I had a map that said "start here" on the path to your goal lady... That would be kinda fun. Like a game where you level up. By sexing. 

Probably not feasible, but I can dream.

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Geeze, you base your choice of companion on reference-potential?  That's as bad as basing a choice of companion on ease of parking (prior thread).

Tough to be a newbie these days, thank the Lord that I get to base my choice of companion on my choice of companion.

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2 hours ago, decafnaetd said:

It sounds like a sort of roadmap, which could be nice.

I find myself weighing ads for gorgeous providers wondering, "Will I get a reference out of this?" Because there are a few providers that I'd like to visit but require references.  but figuring out which other providers are "gateway" providers could be a lot of trial and error. Some will refer, some won't. Not super excited to spend the hard earned cash on a dead end. 

Now if I had a map that said "start here" on the path to your goal lady... That would be kinda fun. Like a game where you level up. By sexing. 

Probably not feasible, but I can dream.

Not giving references doesn't make someone a dead end. It's more like you're using them for the reference than the experience so you can see other ladies. Newbie friendly ladies aren't really stepping stones. They can be of course but I wouldn't make it clear that you're basically just paying for a reference, takes the fun out of it.

 

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54 minutes ago, Lucy Kitten said:

Not giving references doesn't make someone a dead end. It's more like you're using them for the reference than the experience so you can see other ladies. Newbie friendly ladies aren't really stepping stones. They can be of course but I wouldn't make it clear that you're basically just paying for a reference, takes the fun out of it.

 

Yeah, it sounds awful when phrased that way. I like my video game levelling up analogy better. 

But that is kinda the way the system works. And I totally understand why. I don't want to see any lives ruined either.

If I'm super excited to see Sally Streetwalker, and I've seen Heather Ho, but Heather either can't be bothered, or isn't reputable enough herself, well... Then I'm no further along in my quest to see Sally. I, unfortunately, have to pick my path correctly. On the up side, if I pick wrong, I probably still had a blast, so no biggie.

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8 minutes ago, decafnaetd said:

 

Yeah, it sounds awful when phrased that way. I like my video game levelling up analogy better. 

But that is kinda the way the system works. And I totally understand why. I don't want to see any lives ruined either.

If I'm super excited to see Sally Streetwalker, and I've seen Heather Ho, but Heather either can't be bothered, or isn't reputable enough herself, well... Then I'm no further along in my quest to see Sally. I, unfortunately, have to pick my path correctly. On the up side, if I pick wrong, I probably still had a blast, so no biggie.

References aren't an obligation. They are an awesome courtesy but not an obligation.

If I am on your list because it's on the path to see someone else remove me from your list. Unless you have an interest in returning the favor in the form of a review because that's also part of the system. There is a difference between building a reputation and using providers to get to the ones you want. I don't mean to sound harsh but there isn't a way that you've tried to express this that doesn't sound a little weird.

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I like some of the ideas noted here as well as the pitfalls. BP has always been hit & miss for me. I'd end up double checking on here or p411.  I do agree that BP did a very poor job of any type of screening and I'd often wonder of the "situation" some of the very young ladies were in. I realize that BP going down affects a lot of ladies incomes....that sucks. Perhaps it will bring about a more professional situation for us such as the ladies on this board that I've always respected. 

Ladies, you're a smart bunch and I agree with the "50 Shades Darker" party SultryKitten suggested. I've always seen a lot of cooperation between ladies and I'm sure a brainstorming meeting wouldn't hurt. I'd hate to go back to personal ads in the classifieds or legalization with the requirement that I go to church and confession immediately after! Heck the priests would get all the good reviews 1st :-(

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54 minutes ago, Lucy Kitten said:

References aren't an obligation. They are an awesome courtesy but not an obligation.

I think you are just on the other side of the equation where they are optional. 

The are obligatory for me. I recently asked someone about a massage and was turned away because I could not provide 2  qualified references. Happens pretty darn regularly, actually. Try pretending you're a customer and try hitting up some of the ladies here. First bit of info they'll ask for is your references. They have to be reputable and recent, and they have to be able remember who you are. 

That's been my experience, anyway. My problem is that I haven't seen anyone in over a year, so I'm basically starting over, which has been frustrating.

So, yeah, unfortunately from my side of the fence, references are required.

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On 1/9/2017 at 2:16 PM, SultryKitten said:

I have been thinking that maybe us ladies should link to ladies that we only approve of. That lets the guys know that we know these ladies and their legitimacy, and that if anyone is not on that page than we either haven't met them or do not credit them.

Also, saying on there that we are "reference friendly" and our protocol without revealing our system of screening.

I have been seriously thinking of setting up a "friend" page on my website with that thought in mind. Thoughts?

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

Good idea

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Samantha, 

 

I am with Laci and  Kandi and their take on issues. Providers need to take the drama out of it. Take away the personal outside views, political bullshit, drama, unnecessary additional garbage. Why add complication to the pleasure, oppertunity to make money, friendship? I don't play drama games with my escort work. I think you are cool Samantha! A d yes  i will endorse you as well as many of the other ladies on here regardless of if i like the  individual provider  or see personality conflicts by being assocated with them. i will tell my clients exactly how i see you and will leave it like that.  Yes i am brutal honest  in a very up lifting sweet kind hearted way. Hell! Don't cut your nose off if you are being given a opportunity Providers!😂

Yes clients its up to you to do your own research and make you own judgement call...Talk to your Providers if you feel comfortable with doing so, or need a reference help.

None of us should be viewed as freaking stepping stones!!

What the hell is that about?!

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As a somewhat "new" provider I screen well because I don't "know" the other ladies on this site... personally, I think this is a good idea....we should stick together and uplift each other👄👄👄👄👄✈🌼🌼🌼🌼

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12 hours ago, Lucy Kitten said:

Not giving references doesn't make someone a dead end. It's more like you're using them for the reference than the experience so you can see other ladies. Newbie friendly ladies aren't really stepping stones. They can be of course but I wouldn't make it clear that you're basically just paying for a reference, takes the fun out of it.

 

I think the fun is in the journey, and not necessarily always getting to the destination as fast as possible.  The stepping stone analogy is thinking of it as the most direct path and literally stepping on one of you fine ladies to get there.  Maybe a pinball analogy is better.  You get to bounce around (pun), maybe hitting some spots more than once along the way!  Hopefully you are a gentleman along the way and are a good candidate for a reference. With a limited supply of quarters and time to play, I could not imagine spending time and money without having some attraction to the YL.  And along the way, you may find a place you like to revisit over and over, never make it to "the destination", or even make it there and find out it wasn't all that and embark on another journey.

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It's a good idea with potential pitfalls, but if everyone can leave their personal opinions out of things, it can work. For example, Sara so and so and lily licks disagree on just about everything, BUT they respect each other because they KNOW they are great providers. That's it! They're great providers. Not a bunch of oh she's a lib, she's snotty, she so blah blah blah. There might be a couple of girls I don't like, but I will always give a reference to them because their safety is not any less important than mine. That's the only way a system will work. 

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15 hours ago, Lucy Kitten said:

References aren't an obligation. They are an awesome courtesy but not an obligation.

If I am on your list because it's on the path to see someone else remove me from your list. Unless you have an interest in returning the favor in the form of a review because that's also part of the system. There is a difference between building a reputation and using providers to get to the ones you want. I don't mean to sound harsh but there isn't a way that you've tried to express this that doesn't sound a little weird.

I agree with Lucy...nothing is more of a "turn off" than if a guy is using my reputation to get another lady. I want you to see me because you want to be with me. I want to feel desired, wanted...worthy, not an obligation. I have been there, done that. I want the guys to know they matter to me, and I want that feeling returned. No, I am not wanting to "run off into the sunset" with you,  I just love the comfort of knowing I can enjoy someone over and over again with no string attached.

I understand that guys have to have credentials for a good number of ladies, but I know that most of those ladies have different avenues of screening that don't require a reference. If you happen to have a reliable reference then cool, use it, but if you don't and she is really who you want(not the other gal), man up and give her other info to pass her screening. This business already skims the fine line and we don't need someone coming in for the wrong intention. It messes with ladies ideal of why she is doing this which can take her to a dark place.

Ladies, I want you to know that I understand that we all like and do things differently which is what makes each of us unique. The cool thing about referring each other is allowing the guys to know that we back each other up no matter that Sara Streetwalker likes it rough unlike Heather Ho who is the queen of tease. Guys want vanilla one day, chocolate the next, and I am not talking just skin color. I want the guys to explore their fantasies with each one of us and know that each lady that is referred to them gives them what they desire.

I get a lot of guys that ask who I would refer, and that is what planted the seed. I have seen it be successful in certain circles so that is why I am seriously considering it. I think it is something to seriously ponder.

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

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Hey, I'm sorry everyone. I probably shouldn't post when I'm in a foul mood. Trying to find what I'm looking for has been a little frustrating with all sorts of knocking on closed doors. I've only ever seen a yl because I wanted to see that particular yl. 

But lately the providers I've been interested in seeing have not been remotely interested in seeing me. This is entirely based on my lack of references. No alternative screening options, no suggestions, not even a polite "no, thank you." Just radio silence from that moment forward.

So I'm a bit frustrated, and it came out in the form of a poorly written response to a post about the very thing I'm having trouble with. I sincerely apologise to you guys. Treating you as stepping stones is as far from my intentions as it could possibly be. 

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