TrystinTrimble

"You're just a hooker."

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As the duly authorized spokesmen for all decent men, we sincerely apologize for those men who are not gentlemen to the ladies.  We hope that you can ignore them, they are broken.  Their opinion is not worthy of your time.

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I've assisted you on an errand you needed to run. I'll testify you're a real person, capable of conversation, and actually have more talent in your little toe than I have in my whole body. I'd never be able to get up in front of a crowd and sing. Hang tough. Fuck haters.

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15 minutes ago, fishndude57 said:

I've assisted you on an errand you needed to run. I'll testify you're a real person, capable of conversation, and actually have more talent in your little toe than I have in my whole body. I'd never be able to get up in front of a crowd and sing. Hang tough. Fuck haters.

I disagree with your self proclaimed lack of talent. You know what I mean ;)

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Ehh, ironically should be kinda happy not seeing someone like that.  I would think that would be a good screening tool- first contact.  Sounds like a good miss if they come across like that.  

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When it's ALL im getting, it's more than frustrating. It's getting to be about all I have left to handle here. 

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Ya know, even on Colfax (back in the day) more of an intro was required before you could get into a gal's knickers. 

Manners grease the grinding gears of social interaction. 

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You should've responded "you're just a dick" and end it there.

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9 hours ago, Lucy Kitten said:

I do wonder what's changed that has caused this level of disrespect from certain clients.

This is wild guess...

I've found that some guys/girls have rarely, or never, been disciplined for poor manners, and selfishness, by their parents, schools, work, or peers. Consequently, they see things as their level (upper class), or everyone else's level (lower class.) They have no idea how to view life, from another persons perspective, and expect everyone to serve them.

These are the guys (and some girls) who complain you can't work around their schedule, break the rules for them, be available when they want, work magic because "that's how I want it!", or smile the whole time you're around them, and act like a servant. They're the equivalent of the spoiled royal families of the middle ages, or plantation owners from the 1800s. Luckily, they don't have the power, or money, those inbreds had.

They've always been around, but I'm seeing a lot more of these unpleasant people, I suspect, due to a few generations of spoiling (from baby boomers to millenials).

I hope they disappear soon! :mad:

 

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12 hours ago, JustFine said:

To throw some gray into this seemingly black and white issue.

I usually use p411 for any initial contact to see if someone is actually available, since tob ads are either automated or just inaccurate about current availability.

I dont go into detail since I have a profile that gives some detail about me... but honestly very few women actually spend the time to read it.

Maybe its cause I'm just a John.

 

I never thought that just asking if someone is available is a rude thing to do.

 

I did not notice the word "available" anywhere in the OP.

If you were trying to pick a lady up or secure a first date with a lady at the (laundra mat, grocery store, bar, church social, pick your place) would you open with "Hey, babe, nice tits" and expect success?  Why then treat escorts with such total disrespect and expect positive results?  That is what I got out of the OP.  And that so frequently being treated like shit is no way to live life.  Maybe I missed something.

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1 hour ago, pfunk said:

This is wild guess...

I've found that some guys/girls have rarely, or never, been disciplined for poor manners, and selfishness, by their parents, schools, work, or peers. Consequently, they see things as their level (upper class), or everyone else's level (lower class.) They have no idea how to view life, from another persons perspective, and expect everyone to serve them.

These are the guys (and some girls) who complain you can't work around their schedule, break the rules for them, be available when they want, work magic because "that's how I want it!", or smile the whole time you're around them, and act like a servant. They're the equivalent of the spoiled royal families of the middle ages, or plantation owners from the 1800s. Luckily, they don't have the power, or money, those inbreds had.

They've always been around, but I'm seeing a lot more of these unpleasant people, I suspect, due to a few generations of spoiling (from baby boomers to millenials).

I hope they disappear soon! :mad:

 

Entitlement + insecurity + repressed guilt = flaming dickhead.

I have never understood the approach of making oneself feel better by demeaning and putting down others.  My favorite path to feeling better is to succeed in getting a genuine smile or laugh out of the other person.  I like to greet and leave a lady with a smile and a hug - and i hope the parting smile is not "thank god he is leaving"  B)

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2 hours ago, pfunk said:

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They've always been around, but I'm seeing a lot more of these unpleasant people, I suspect, due to a few generations of spoiling (from baby boomers to millenials).

I hope they disappear soon! :mad:

 

I doubt they will disappear any time soon. I expect their numbers to increase with the coodling in schools (grade inflation, intolerance if differing opinions, etc.) and the handouts of one sort or another by our government(s).  Acquiring manners takes training, it takes being told "No!", it takes hard work to be polite when the world isn't nice, and it takes character.

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Hey Trystin... 

I can only share my  most sincere respect for you and the providers of TOB community.  Your right there are some men who have no respect for you or for themselves. Unfortunately it's part of the bad and good of providing companionship. For me it's because of ED , being over 60 and having to deal with the B/S from straight women who think their golden. I don't have the time to waste. 

Anyway, over the past 1 year, I always make it a point to get to know the woman. To see if we have common interests as people. Some providers I've met outside of TOB , like Denver BP have no business sense about having a cliente of men who can be her regular's. 

At the same time, it's not always going to be about sex; for the providers I have met and see. I offer to take them out to dinner or go shopping.  When holidays come up or their birthday, I drop off a card or bring them their favorite chocolates or wine. 

What you do with helping some of us guy's is invaluable and creates good memories and fondness for how beautiful you woman are. 

Thank You,

1hapyfeller

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The sense of entitlement mention by Pfunk and Bit is probably enhanced and embolded by the anonymity protocol that has been emphasized for clients on these pages.  I will admit to this being a downside....and I don't know how to address it.  Anonymity gives evil people great power.

Trystin, I'm sorry you had to endure this.  Please don't let evil people define your self worth.  And while one reason this board exists is so that members can provide support and encourage to each other, you should be aware of the possibility that the living piece of shit that treated you this way may have read your post with glee....happy that he had succeeded in hurting your feelings.   We should all try to avoid feeding the trolls. 

 

Be at peace.

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I agree with Laplace here. A-holes will be a-holes, rise above. Know that you are better than their bs, and live happily to their dismay. 

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I'm one of the gents That very much appreciates all you lovely ladies of the trade, your all special in my book, and you deserve all the respect and kindness. 

When texting or calling a girl, what difference does it make whether you hope she'll suck your dick after dinner and a movie, or you know she'll suck your dick for a donation, she's still a girl either way, and more importantly she's a person, have a little class assholes. 

 

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1 hour ago, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

... I hate that word "tits" makes me think of a cow. Even though cows are cute. I prefer the word "breasts" ! 

How about "mammary glands" or "teats"? 😏

Yes, a little bit of sugar goes a long ways. That works both ways, and you ladies are often sweeter than us ole bulls. 

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To quote George Carlin...from the 7 words you can't say on the air:

"And "tits" doesn't even belong on the list, y'know? Man!

That's such a friendly sounding word.

It sounds like a nickname, right? "Hey, Tits, come here, man. Hey! Hey Tits, meet Toots. Toots, Tits. Tits, Toots.""

 

 

I often fight in defense of language.  And I frequently use words that may be offensive to SOME.  If I do so, I do not intend insult.  We are all products of our backgrounds. 

And as one learns a person's preferences, it shows respect to that person to follow them.  So, even though I was brought up with the belief the term "hooker" was somewhat light hearted....knowing their preferences I will now not use that term in the presence of Trystin or Lucy.  To do so would be ill mannered.   And to place the adjective "just" in front of ANY descriptor could only be interpreted/intended as an insult.

Likewise, should I ever have the good fortune meet Kali, having read her post  I would now do my best to avoid the word "tits," even though the word is one of my favorites in the English language, and despite the fact that Kali's photos hint at prodigious bosom worthy of story and song.

My point in this ramble is that for the best of interpersonal results, it helps to get to know someone just a little bit, and conform to their standards of politeness as much as you, so that when you meet them you can make them feel comfortable. After all, a true lady or gentleman always strives to make sure those they are with are comfortable.

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Wow such lovely words from you two  Bit Banger and Laplace  you both are top notch in my book.  As for that review in TER I will have it noted that I lost an additional 9 lbs since the 4th of July,  so I am now down to 160lbs. Not as flabby, was on June 28th. Something to Toot my Tit about!?    As for saying, "Tit, Teat, Mammary Glands, toot's" from you two?  Yes!  I will always laugh if I hear either of you two say that word or any variation of it to me! Breastesses are Bestesses! Maybe it comes from being self conscious teenager with massive breasts growing up!? I don't know?  Laughing though because I feel comfortable with you guys! 

Earlier today  I was explaining to someone that an older woman (like me) has "flab" while a younger woman will have "baby fat". I have lost close to 70 lbs so far since March ... feels great!  Also, I really like the reviews on this website. I find them for the most part  really respectful.

 

 

 i just don't like seeing it in reviews for some reason, or in a cellphone message as an opening liner! Just a bit too much to take  is all. Especially,  if I have never spoken to that person before. 

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12 minutes ago, Kali Sensual Reiki said:

... I have lost close to 70 lbs so far since March ... feels great!  

Whoa tiger. Slow down. That's a little too fast for good health. The 9# since July 4th is not too bad. 

Hopefully you have exercise as part of your program, including some strength training. This will build muscle, which is denser(heavier) than fat, but which also burns more calories. Besides, nothing sexier than sleek muscles with a thin, smooth layer of fat. Take a look at Canova's Pauline or Bernini's Persephone. These beauties have stood the test of time. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_Victrix_(Canova)

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I do some exercise  possibly not enough, do mostly core training, videos! I try to get out too and just walk or jog a bit. Gawds it was too hot today. 

 I found out that i was killing myself by eating grains, in other words my body was really sick on account of my diet.I think allot of it had to do with craving sugar and wheat food.  So, I have since cut out all grains from diet. It was really hard  to began with back in March when I started. Yet, as I have  continue on with this life choice I've made  i've  learned to become more creative with my diet. Nut flour like coconut, flaxseed, and few other nut base flours I have been baking with. I also got a food processor. Stay away from everything that has bad Ju-ju. It is working for me and my body feels better which to me is far more important. I think doing this sort of work has also been a big savior for me too because I am constantly needing to watch myself and be mindful of my  choices.  Sure it's judgement-- Just hope that it's always in a possitive manner "judgement".  http://wellnessmama.com/575/problem-with-grains/ 

Venus Victrix...wow now that's a beautiful woman!  Right now I am not quite there. I am sure though you will continue to see a transformation with me as I continue on with myself within this realm. Thinking at least 20-30 more lbs should do it.  Also,  I think that Colorado has some pretty beautiful woman! I am just proud to be one of many. Persephone I love Greek! Yes, Greek Mythology is incredible lot's to learn about when you read and you connect with smart people like you!

 Thank you for the encouragement Bit Banger! ;) 

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On 8/19/2016 at 4:47 PM, TrystinTrimble said:

Today has brought with it a wave of discouraging contact with people who expect to be given my address, my trust,and access to my body. Unfortunately, they can't be bothered to say anything before a text that says "Hey babe. nice tits. where ya located?."  I GET IT, time is of the essence and you're trying to get something set up. When I responded with "That's not much of a greeting, can't ya say hi and introduce yourself?" I got told "LOL we aren't getting married! I.just complimented you!  you're just a hooker. you can't expect us to all be nice to you! I don't want your drama or making me jump through your hoops! Youre not a gf!" Then he wanted to know WHERE I LIVE, TO BE ALLOWED TO ENJOY MY BODY, AND TO BE SMILING THE WHOLE TIME.

 

If you are one of those who thinks that it is too much to expect a hello or a intro from you when you are wanting me to be your fantasy...well I have this to say about it, and nothing less---NO, I don't expect you to be overly kissing my ass or any nicer to me than you are to the lady who bags your groceries, but given the nature of our encounters...

I , SURE AS THE DAY IS LONG--- REQUIRE TO BE TREATED WITH BASIC HUMAN COURTESY, AND IF SAYING HI TO ME BEFORE YOU TOUCH MY BODY IS JUST TOO MUCH TROUBLE, THEN THE PROBLEM.IS NOT THAT I'M "JUST A HOOKER." THE PROBLEM IS THAT I'M A PERSON AND YOU'RE NOT BOTHERING TO TREAT ME WITH ANY DIGNITY. The problem is not that I am desperate, a bitch, a pain in your ass, or that my attitude isn't good. The problem is that I don't like being told that I'm not worth the most simple respectful gesture because of my occupation . I'm just a hooker? Maybe. I'm guessing the person who said those mean things to me and then told me I should be less expecting of him saying HI, WELL...I bet he is just a roofer. or just an accountant. or just the president of his company. but I'm guessing that someone who can't be personable at all because I'm just a hooker who he doesn't know anyway...well...the way I see it, he is JUST A BULLY AND JUST NOT NICE ENOUGH TO OTHER PEOPLE. 

I do think we should ALL expect people to be nice to us. I think that it's NOT excessive to expect...no--absolutely REQUIRE--- someone who wants me alone and naked...to be nice and greet me in a socially acceptable way. I may be "just a hooker" but I dont have to take that classism and undignified talk someone who is CLEARLY...JUST AN A**HOLE WHO HAS NO RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLE.  

 

To the gentlemen who already practice kindness to EVERYONE: THANK YOU :) We love being regarded as people and will do whatever we can to make you feel as alive as possible during your time with us. I personally love making someone feel special and putting a bright place in their days. It makes me happy as well and makes my day more worthwhile.

If you are one of those who can't be nice to someone unless you are being watched/forced to, if you consider not hurting a  hookers feelings to be too much drama or something we should not feel good enough to need, then shame on you. That tells me you are out of touch and that I cant feel safe with you or expect anything but to be treated as worthlessly as I was just addressed by you. Sorry if it's too much to ask but not having it. Im just a hooker, after all, so don't take my lack of reception SO personally. 

 

If you are a provider like me, don't ever let the disparaging types tell you that you aren't worth common courtesy that other strangers in his life are entitled to. We shouldn't expect people to be be nice to us every time? I disagree 1000× over. We SHOULD ABSOLUTELY NOT PROCEED UNLESS THEY CAN BE SWEET AS PIE, AND EXPECTING TO BE HANDLED WITH PLEASANTRIES IS NOT ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE THAN JUST A HOOKER.   If they convince you that you're lesser than some stranger they just waved to in traffic, then they won't stop there. You can't feel safe with someone who thinks they are free of social niceties if the lady is just a "hooker." They are JUST NOT choosing to be respectful, and they are doing it FROM THE START.

*YOU, MISS, AREN'T JUST A HOOKER.

*SIR, YOU ARE NOT JUST BETTER THAN ALL THE GUYS WHO AREN'T STRAIGHT UP MEAN. DON'T BE MEAN. IT'S THAT EASY. 

*To MY *ATF'S* You are all the kind of fellas who need no advice on this. Just...thank you. You're my heroes and the reason I know better than to believe that I cant insist on decent people who cant treat others like they should matter. 

 

I know this is a long post, but I've got to be open and clear on this since it's been nonstop meanies and their meanness. Back to work and NOT ready to let go of the old self worth just yet. Everyone who reads my post, I hope you have something to remind you every day that we are ALL THE SAME and that YOU ARE WORTH BEING TREATED WITH DIGNITY AT ANY POINT, NO MATTER WHO ARE OR WHAT YOU DO :) THE ONES WHO FEEL OTHERWISE, NOT YOU, ARE THE PROBLEMOST. Thanks for your time and perpetuation of this idea!

Bravo!

Hi, I'm a nice man, I hope you are a nice woman. Do you live close to me? Do you like the same things I like?

I for one hope you get the respect you deserve. I know sometimes it's tough, but there are a lot of ill mannered people out there. But you seem to know how to deal with it, even if you shouldn't have to deal with it at all. It's just it seems to me a lot of people don't have manners anymore and that's a shame. I hope you build a client base worthy of your morals and your self respect. The rest? The will never know what they are missing!

Good luck!

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5 hours ago, Vassago said:

When I mention the movie Ladyhawke and a girl has no clue what I'm talking about, it's really not a win for me. It's just a sad reminder of the generation gap that exists. But doing this so long, I'm forced to reconcile with what is available to me. I am forced to adapt ... as a consumer .... That just sounds fucked up to even state that... This year a "buyers' market" next a "sellers' market" and the pendulum swings to and fro. Who really ever wins?

Ladyhawke...1985. 30 year old movie. I'd guess anyone under 45 won't be familiar with it. You're old (I'm probably even older!), so yeah, we're not gonna "connect" with the majority of ladies in this profession.

However, we can certainly have pleasant conversations about art, music, nature, hobbies, fitness, and culture. We can have some fun physical activity! I've probably learned more in the last 10 years, from the providers I've met, than in the previous 30 years. 

I feel joyful about embracing my age, and hers (regardless of the difference), both physically, and emotionally. I relish the exchange of ideas, and shared physicality. I'm not looking to "win" anything, and I don't worry about the "buyers" or "sellers" market. I just visit with someone I think I'll like (and "looks" are the least important facet), and have the best time I possibly can.

Consequently, I'm going to treat the lady with respect, kindness, and humility. As we all should, IMHO. She certainly deserves all the pleasant time she can get, after dealing with the moronic cliients, who act like the OPs antagonist. :)

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8 hours ago, Vassago said:

When I mention the movie Ladyhawke...

Of all the movies that came out in 1985, Ladyhawke is the one you use as your gauge? Sure, it's a fine movie, but what about enduring classics like the Breakfast Club, The Goonies, or Back to the Future? 1985 was a huge year for pretty darned good movies.

As for the original topic, people will get away with whatever they can--especially with the anonymity the Internet can provide.  I'm sorry you have to deal with these morons. it seems to be an unfortunate side effect of the unregulated nature of the profession. I'm not saying you should have to deal with it and I wish I had a solution for you.  How about this?  Next time you're in MN, look me up and I'll treat you right.

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22 hours ago, Laplace said:

To quote George Carlin...from the 7 words you can't say on the air:

"And "tits" doesn't even belong on the list, y'know? Man!

That's such a friendly sounding word.

It sounds like a nickname, right? "Hey, Tits, come here, man. Hey! Hey Tits, meet Toots. Toots, Tits. Tits, Toots.""

 

 

I often fight in defense of language.  And I frequently use words that may be offensive to SOME.  If I do so, I do not intend insult.  We are all products of our backgrounds. 

And as one learns a person's preferences, it shows respect to that person to follow them.  So, even though I was brought up with the belief the term "hooker" was somewhat light hearted....knowing their preferences I will now not use that term in the presence of Trystin or Lucy.  To do so would be ill mannered.   And to place the adjective "just" in front of ANY descriptor could only be interpreted/intended as an insult.

Likewise, should I ever have the good fortune meet Kali, having read her post  I would now do my best to avoid the word "tits," even though the word is one of my favorites in the English language, and despite the fact that Kali's photos hint at prodigious bosom worthy of story and song.

My point in this ramble is that for the best of interpersonal results, it helps to get to know someone just a little bit, and conform to their standards of politeness as much as you, so that when you meet them you can make them feel comfortable. After all, a true lady or gentleman always strives to make sure those they are with are comfortable.

I do not mind being lightly referrered to as a hooker.  It's the implication that being one means I'm not even worth a hello to some high and mighty whore monger that makes me all hot around the collar. Why would I want to give of myself to someone who thinks I'm so dark and dirty? Money or no, this hooker ain't having any of THAT. :D

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20 minutes ago, Laplace said:

  Is it not appropriate to tell a woman her <insert anatomical feature> is attractive? 

I would hazard a guess that "Hey, sugar tits!" is received differently than , "Hi Suzie! I love the new pics! Your boobs look great!

20 minutes ago, Laplace said:

I guess I am too stupid to get it.  Seems I can do no right.  When every post is potentially offensive, why bother?  Enjoy your discussions on...whatever is left to talk about.

If you don't understand the difference between the two fictional quotes above, then you'll never get it. 

These women are humans first, females second, and providers third, IMHO.

Lastly, I am not speaking for Lucy. I'm speaking for myself, and no one else. She's far brighter than I, and will rebut, or not, as she sees fit.

 

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