geecue2

Newbie, what was your experience like getting verified as a client.

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With all the newbie questions about getting started, got me thinking about what experiences some of the seasoned clients went through to get references.

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References, I don't need no stinking references! *

As I recall, I found a cutie from BP (which is all I knew about back then), got lucky and she was a gem.  At the end of the session, she asked me "have you ever heard of P-411?"  I said "No"  She said, "I will send you a link, and if you joint, I will give you your first 'OK'" and it will be really easy to book escorts."  I think she got a couple of bucks for recruiting, but the important thing is that she did send me the link, did vouch for me, and I got the account without providing any personal information - nada.

From the P411 link, I found TOB and the rest is a glorious history.

      * For the youngsters, this is a slight modification of a line from "Treasure of the Sierra Madre"

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I honestly can't remember it being an issue. I've been doing this for several decades now and the screening back then was done via answering several questions over the phone (land line since cell phones hadn't been invented) that went something along these lines..."Are you affiliated w/LE in any way?"..."How did you find my phone number, i.e. in what newspaper classified ad section"..."Are you a weirdo?..." After the YL was satisfied I was legit, it was a matter of picking a time and showing up at her incall or hotel room.

This was back in the late '80's and early '90's so the medium for advertising was the classifieds since Al Gore had yet to invent the internet and no one knew what an iphone or PC was. LOL

Things sure were a lot more simple back then...

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After wading out of the carnage of my divorce, I discovered through a series of accidents (met a dancer in the grocery store; ya, no shit!!) that renting or leasing fit me better.  She turned me on to this world. At that time I was spending a lot of time in Denver and I discovered TOB. I had experience in another state so I pretty much knew the drill by then so it wasn't at all difficult to establish my creds in the Rockies. I made a call to a lovely lady's web site #, answered her few questions and the next thing you know I had an outcall to the loft that I had at the time.  I still occasionally visit Denver so I stay here (plus the entertainment value here is difficult to duplicate) and I've a presence on another board, same handle, with a greater national footprint. Along in there I also utilized P411 for a year or so with no appreciable benefits, so dropped that.   

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1 hour ago, geecue2 said:

With all the newbie questions about getting started, got me thinking about what experiences some of the seasoned clients went through to get references.

I know it would be shilling if you posted your experience first without someone asking, so what's your experience old wise one? :)

My experience started out like many others.  I did research for about five or six months on TOB and what I could find from P411.  I saw a lady who was newbie friendly, called and made the appointment for the same evening.  I was nervous as hell, but knew she was legit.  The best surprise I did find was she was CIMNQNS.  This ruined it for me with the next few ladies I saw because they didn't offer it, but we still laugh about it to this day.

She was happy to provide a reference for me and even introduced me to a few other ladies she thought I'd enjoy.

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Hello.  My name is Laplace.  <Hi Laplace>  I'm a hypocrite.  <applause>

My first provider I found on backpage, about 5 years ago. Call her "Provider A".  I did some research before calling and found a review of her here on TOB.  But I did not read enough to learn about security protocols and burner phones.  I called her from my real phone  and after a bit she agreed to meet me. An ok session. Good enough that I was hooked. I think now she used my phone number to identify me.

My second lady was the one I had really been wanting to meet, but she required references and this thing called "screening." Call her "Provider B." I figured I was good to go.  Wrong. I contacted her by email....her preferred communication method and gave her "Provider A" as a reference.  Provider A was no help at all.  So Provider B emailed back with the bad news, asking if I could provide some screening info.  And here it is.....By this time I had read enough to learn that....at least potentially, revealing personal info was dangerous. But, in my defence, I would offer up the photos on her website.  This lady was a beautiful, short, curvy little thing with long black hair and ginormous boobs. She hit virtually every item on my physical attractiveness list and had great reviews. My big head tried a feeble defense, but the little head won out.  I gave her everything but my social security number.

I saw Provider C in another city on a business trip. I was able to use Provider B as a reference.

I then used references from Providers B & C to get a P411 account.  I have not revealed private info since.

I want to make clear that there are several providers I have met that I would feel 100 % safe in using to get started in this activity the way I did, some of them still actively post to this forum, but that I have also met several that I was thankful only knew my hobby name and P411 number. I have been lucky.  I could have picked one of them, first.

 

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I had gotten home late one evening after spending way too much money at the strip club and decided there must be a better way. I think I googled something like "Denver Escort Reviews" and a few clicks later I was here. Spent the next few hours looking at ads and reading reviews. Sent emails to three ladies. The first one to respond said she liked p411 and if I joined she would see me. So I did. Gave p411 my employment info and had a member ID by the next day as I recall. Had first session and okay a couple days later.

Over the next 10-12 months I probably saw 20-25 ladies, all through p411 and in several different locations around the US.  Found three that I really liked here locally and after another year or so dropped the p411 membership because I wasn't using it anymore.

I suppose giving up my employment info was risky, but it didn't really seem so at the time. 

I wonder how many girls would see a brand new p411 member with no okays these days?

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Like everyone else almost, started out on back page, had no idea about the scams and LE using BP. I got lucky with two ladies that advertised there and on tob, never had heard of tob either. Remember when I finally got the appt. with the lady that gave me a reference. I was so nervous I can remember my voice cracking.  To my surprise when I found tob, in my opinion she was one of the hottest providers on tob at the time. The other lady, with my warped sense of humor, I noticed she was posting on the forum so I sent her a PM and asked if she was LE. Still cracks me up to this day, she replied back do not ever contact me again, you are stupid. Finally got an appt set up by telling her what her dog looked liked. We still have a good laugh about this.

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1 hour ago, Rosy Lust said:

Being a newbie is hard, and getting reviews is harder to use as references.

RosyLust, Welcome to TOB.

I'm having a little trouble understanding what you're trying to say here. Sure, the difficulties newbies face has been widely documented and discussed on this forum.

What are you intending to say here though..."and getting reviews is harder to use as references".?

MrBS

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I never bothered with trying to get references. Somehow I found sowet which led me to TOB. After 6 months of lurking on TOB and doing tons if research I decided P411 would be easiest. I gave them my info and once I was verified I found a newbie friendly provider on P411 that had a bunch of reviews on here and she gave me my first OK. I don't think I have ever booked an appointment with a provider I have never seen outside of P411.

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5 hours ago, Rosy Lust said:

Being a newbie is hard, and getting reviews is harder to use as references.

+1

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My first experience came off backpage. She rejected my first attempt.  In retrospect I'm sure I sounded like LE. She told me about TOB and suggested I study etiquette a little bit. After a day of research I contacted her again and had my first appointment. 

I got lucky and met another provider that I consider a friend. She offered advice, references and friendship. She taught me to like the provider not hire the provider. Sounds wierd I know. To this day I consider her a friend.

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2 hours ago, Doug28 said:

 She taught me to like the provider not hire the provider. Sounds wierd I know. 

Actually, I think this speaks to the common issues between clients and providers. If we start out trying to like each other, as human beings, everything becomes a lot easier. If one, or both parties, are looking for "here's the $, do xyz!", it's not so pleasant. :P

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It was a long process by trial and error i suppose.  I entered the hotel California via the Westword newspaper. remember when the back pages of the Westword were of ladies adds instead of cannabis. I was a reader and after breaking up with a girlfriend of 7 years. being horny and single I took a shot at a 36DDD post.

then I ventured over to craigslist for a while. I believe at some point a lady guided me to bearsboard. then I immediately found tob through a link from bears. venturing this direction i was able to gain references from tob ladies. ironically, as i was fresh on here. i started to date a lady from the board. which helped as she was friends with other ladies here.

the crazy part is i have never set up a p411 account for myself. for the many years i was active in denver it wasn't needed. I've been absent the past couple of years, and can empathize with the newbies going through the process of getting verified here in CO. i have current and many ladies that can verify for me from out of state. and the good thing is many of them are p411.  

i guess I'm lost in the recent conversations of why the newbies are asking too many questions or the wrong ones? fuck we all started up as novices at one point. these newbies were able to bypass the craziness of backpage and fortunate to find this more healthier environment. and they will learn in time with experience. some are just anxious and will probably do stupid shit. but if the Padawan stick around they to will be enlightened........ 

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On ‎7‎/‎9‎/‎2016 at 6:45 AM, Doug28 said:

 

.............like the provider not hire the provider. Sounds wierd I know. To this day I consider her a friend.

.......This makes a huge difference in the tempo of the session.

 

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7 minutes ago, Jez UaBriain said:

 

I was too late to edit so to rewrite this posting........

Doug28 stated- like the provider, instead of just hire. And my response is:

As the man said....... !       This entirely changes the dynamics and tempo of the session-for the better.

The ladies that have responded here state how difficult those reviews are to obtain. And they do work in our favor. But they are indeed hard to get. Guys, your reasons are your own. But remember they are beneficial for both provider and client alike.

 

There, now I am done with my edit.

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I did a TON of looking around on TOB and P411 (too afraid of BP.), then contacted a "mature" (40s) provider. I gave  some minimal personal info (has not comeback to haunt me...yet ;-) Talked a bit on the phone, set an appointment & had a great time first encounter.

Sought out a second mature provider & the second provider happened to know the first ( this is a small world) & so I was able to book an appointment based on that. I then applied for P411 using these providers as references for that, but it took forever to get the account going as Provide #1 didn't send an okay (why she didn't is a weird thing.)

Anyway, in the meantime, I did make an appointment with a third established provider was okay'd via first provider as a reference as well as email exchanges and had a really terrific appointment.

By now I'm going a little kooky (suffering a six year "dead bedroom" with my SO will do that...) and booked an appointment with a fourth lady who was, unbeknownst to me, brand new and who happened to be mentored by my third acquaintance. (Again, small world.) We didn't know that until chatting as our appointment was wrapping up.

Finally, got a P411 account due to the second and third providers reference. Took about two months total.

That was about three years ago and now things have come full circle as I've had to suspend my P411 account due to recently being "restructured" out of a job -- along with a dozen others. So the whole "hobby" is on hiatus until I find a new gig. (While the rest of the economy, especially in Colo is booming, my sector is a dumpster fire.)

Couldn't see keeping the account going when I'm grounded. The downside is that if I happen to run into a little extra change, I'll probably visit someone who I've been a (semi) regular. I could probably meet with someone new based on having a handful of ladies who would likely give me a positive reference. But, I always feel weird when I think about asking for one -- which I know is insane and not about me, but the safety issue. Nevertheless, I always think they wonder why I'm not visiting them (the referrer) instead of the new person. I aks that, too. If I had multiple positive experiences to earn a good reference, why not go back?

Given the current financial sharknado I'm experiencing, that is a completely moot point! har...

 

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For the most part, I found that many providers will relax reference requirements if you've written some reviews over a reasonable course of time.  The easiest thing to do is go see some BP girls that another reviewer or two have written something on.  If so and so with 100 reviews over 6 years says this 3G QV BP girl is the real girl, and if she looks like someone you want to get your rocks off with, you can go do that and write your own review.  Remember that an existing review doesn't have to be great to go see her.  Sometimes, the old guys get jaded and write a mediocre review because they didn't get GFE for a $80 15 minute visit.  At least you can be somewhat assured that the provider is real.  These girls are still taught old myths that if they ask your if you're LE, you have to tell them if you are.  So that's their usual screening.  Whatever, good for newbies (and LE, I suppose).  Do this over 6 months, and you build a little credibility.

I eventually got a P411 account for the more stringent providers but I honestly don't rely on it much.

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On July 8, 2016 at 9:04 AM, MrBigShot said:

RosyLust, Welcome to TOB.

I'm having a little trouble understanding what you're trying to say here. Sure, the difficulties newbies face has been widely documented and discussed on this forum.

What are you intending to say here though..."and getting reviews is harder to use as references".?

MrBS

Well trying to sign up with P411, and of course I need references or reviews. Working to get the reviews isn't the hard part, it's getting the references to work that is proving difficult. 

I have no desire to work from BP as most everyone here. So it's like how the hell do I get my foot in the door? 

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