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11 hours ago, frankenthaler91 said:

 

Combine this ^

With this .

I've seen a lot of porn in my day, but I don't think I've ever come across the act of sexual congress occurring during firearm discharge.  I'm imagining a split screen, on one side hot, sexy action.  On the other side, a close up of the target she is aiming at, squeezing off a shot every four thrusts or so.  One could have a variety of women doing this (it could be called "Girls Do Target Porn"), their scores tallied with best winning a prize (bukkakee?).  Alternatively, the young lady could be armed with an AK-47 and, at the moment of climax, she could empty her clip into an entertaining target, something that's fun to watch destroyed by a hail of bullets.  The possibilities are endless.

That's my million dollar idea for today.  You are welcome to it.

 

 

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1 hour ago, sparkey600 said:

... There has NEVER been a close call or a problem with my family because there is LOGIC and teaching here. I take the time to teach them how to handle a fire arm and to see if it's loaded and to never point it at anything that is not a target. I teach them that it's NOT a toy. ...

This is one reason I regret the elination of the draft and universal (at least for men) service. Draftees were taught proper firearm safety. They were taught the realities of handguns & rifles. IMO, part of the problem for those who support our 2nd Amendment rights is that a majority of society, especially in urban environments, are ignorant WRT firearms; they only know the fear that the media has fed them. 

Part of the problem for our European friends is that they've not had a tradition of firearm ownership. It was the province of their royalty, their lords & masters, sometimes relegated to police & military. Americans, on the other hand, have a tradition of firearms being common tools for survival providing food, local protection against attacks (people & beasts), and for national defense. Response times for our police & military was measured in days or weeks, and in some parts of the country can still be measured in hours. 

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“Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence.” – George Washington

This is all I need to know about the Second Amendment.

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The 2nd amendment reads "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

People tend to focus either on the first half or the second half. I'd love to say I'm above that and that I can separate it, but I can't. I'm a first half guy. I know how to handle guns and I actually enjoy going to the range. Personally, though, I can't own a tool made specifically for killing. This is the same reason I don't own any thermonuclear warheads. ;)

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Item the first:   I categorically reject the underlying premise upon which the OP based this thread.  To wit:

False Dilemma

Item the second:  I don't give a damn who laughs at me.  Because, you see, TJ and I are right.

"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson
 

Item the third:  SAFETY!  SAFETY!  SAFETY!

Rule 1:  Treat every gun as if it were loaded.

Rule 2:  Never point a gun at anything you don't intend to shoot, and never shoot anything you don't intend to kill.

Rule 3:  FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, KIMY......NEVER PUT YOUR FINGER ON THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO SHOOT!

20 hours ago, Kimy said:

Why limit yourself to one?  I vote for both! :)

 

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26 minutes ago, Laplace said:

Item the second:  I don't give a damn who laughs at me.  Because, you see, TJ and I are right.

"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson
 

Clever quotation. But not Jefferson. 

https://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/those-who-hammer-their-guns-plowsquotation

Can you cite an example from history where a people turned away from private gun ownership and were subsequently enslaved?

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Sighhhh, I did good, I so tried to stay away from the forum. I did make it 8 days, so I'm happy with that.

If I have to choose...guns. There's nothing like the solitude of putting the bead to beak of a duck flying every bit of 60mph down the slough you're huntin, pulling the trigger on your high end 12ga, and watchin feathers fly from it's ass. Or having a flock of Mallard Drakes shit all over your head and call em back into the deeks. 3 birds 3 shots, a true trifecta and the Holy Grail of duck huntin. A dog on point, and that rooster flyin up your nose scarin the hell outta ya, and the shot you make on bird, and a good dog in action.

The protection factor. If your going to mortally threaten me or mine, and it's the last recourse, could I pull the trigger. I hope I never find out. I have been shot at twice, one was a punk with a pistol and he missed, the other a high powered rifle by a deer poacher (that one scared me a lot). I've never been in combat, missed the draft in '74 and '75 barely. Thank you for Serving shout out to our Military Men and Women. I have had to disarm more than once a couple of my Vietnam Era vets. Obviously war truly is hell.

I am an American, I am Patriotic. I'm thankful for my rights, including the Right to Bear Arms. I pray I'm never a victim of gun violence, I pray the same for those around me. I pray I never ever have to use a firearm to protect me and mine, whether in war or urban violence. I do believe in PEACE!

 

 

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I have had several providers ask me to go put my gun  back in my truck before the fun can start.  I understand that many people do not feel the same as me about guns and gun control, so now I take my gun off and leave it in the truck when ever I see a provider.

 

I am not here to impose my opinion on anyone, but if i have to choose its going to be GUNS

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1 hour ago, fishndude57 said:

 Right to Bear Arms

That is the problem. It should NOT be a right. It should be a privilege. An earned privilege.

We have repeatedly proven. We can not handle the responsibility.

Just because you are a citizen, should not give you the right to own anything that can remove a life from this planet.

In the countries, where it is generally illegal to own a gun. Citizens can still own a gun for hunting or sports, they just have to go to many weeks of classes. The amount of ammunition you can have is strictly regulated. So, if you need to hunt for food then you better learn how to shoot.

That is the American problem, no one wants to EARN their privileges. They want them handed to them.

That is like saying all ladies deserve a 10 on their reviews, right Bit Banger :D We have to EARN it.

 

 

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Maybe I should lay a map of penis sizes by country, over the map where guns are legal. Hmmm, I have.... so I know the answer :)

The question was which would you prefer legal. Some of you are acting like I asked, for you to cut off your penis.

The rest of the educated modern world (not third world countries, this is about modern countries) have reached a different level of consciousness. They realize you do not need a gun to live. A society can thrive and be happy with out guns...I don't think you can say the same about sex.

I see someone tossed in Hitler there somewhere. Owning a gun would not have stopped that. Many peaceful measures were put in place by western Europe to ensure that would not happen again. They learned and grew. Hiroshima occurred then too. The US is still bomb happy. Look at our orange presidential candidate, he is ready to bomb everyone. We now live in a country, where our children need bullet proof blankets to attend grade school. We are slower to learn, I guess.

Times have changed since the constitution was written. Unfortunately, much of it is out dated.

Walk a mile in another person's shoes. If we take our heads out of our asses, we will understand why the world is losing respect for the US. We over use, we over produce, we over abuse. The US is a me, me , me, me, country. Look at me I am the US. Best ThreAd ever. We all know how annoying those are ;)

I have left the US 10 to 12 times in the past 2 years, and have live in other countries. I have walked in those shoes. I love the US, but I can also see why the world, is shaking their heads at us. Oh boy, are they. We want that respect from the world, then we need to do better!!

We are born with penises and vaginas. Hence, we need them to live and procreate. No babies born with guns, that I know of.

A human can live for weeks with out food.

A human can live for a few days with out water.

A human can live for a few minutes with out air.

A human can live an entire lifetime without a gun.

A human can live an entire lifetime without sex.

I have military in my blood, so I am no stranger to guns. I have shot way more than my share of guns. I don't want you all thinking I don't know my guns, because I sure do. I have enjoyed many hours at gun ranges, and will again.

Now, I found I can easily live a happy life without a gun.

Now, I have gone 4 or 5 day with out an orgasm. Holy crap that was depressing!!!!

We can all go and get sex or guns illegally. Maybe, I should have asked what would make life easier? Legal sex or legal guns? I am fairly certain, all you guys whip out your cocks way more than you whip out your guns.

I sure hope some of you guys buy a lot of lube, I heard masturbating with a gun is a bitch. According to the reviews, guns are lousy at DFK, blow jobs, and snuggling.

Never say never. How did 2Big just become my favorite person here. Now that is unreal!!

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Same old nonsense.  Antigunners want a one size fits all. I'm a responsible gun owner and sportsman.

Don't treat me like an irresponsible or illegal gun owner. I reject the premise that taking guns out of responsible owners hands will solve anything. 

All dogs should be outlawed because pit bulls have a bad reputation.  

My passion is shooting.  Clay pigeons,  targets, 400 yard shot, ducks, geese, grouse, pheasants, deer, elk, prong horn, bear etc. Sometimes I just take a gun apart and clean it. 

You may not know it or believe it but my kind are the good guys. 

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This whole argument would be easier if someone could find some facts.  When I Google about it, I only see information posted by people with a vested interest. That information is super inconsistent.  Fox News states that conceal-and-carry laws lower the crime rate while Huffing Post says they increase crime. There are lots of unsubstantiated facts put out there on websites that are obviously created by gun lovers-or-haters, but there's no good way for me to know which of the facts are true and which aren't. 

How many people do you know--I mean really know personally who you talk to on a regular basis--who have stopped violence with a gun? Personally, I don't know any. I do, however, know several people who have been shot. They run the gamut from those carrying legal firearms to criminals carrying illegal guns to innocent bystanders. In all of these instances, the violence happened so fast that there was no time to react. In my experience, carrying a gun might make some people feel safe, but rarely are they able to defend themselves from real and true violence.

Most gun advocates I know just seem very afraid. If you don't put yourself in harm's way, you will almost surely be fine. Yes, there idiots who shoot up movie theaters or climb bell towers to take shots at innocents but these EXTREMELY RARE occurrences.The media really loves to hype these atrocities--to get ratings or, I suspect, just to have something more important to talk about than the weather--so it feels like they happen all the time. But, in reality, you will probably never be exposed to anything even close. I just don't get it.  What are you so afraid of, people?

 

Wow.  I really went off on a rant there. I don't even consider myself that passionate about this subject. What just happened?

 

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Only one of the two is protected in the Bill of Rights.

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Is this a gun forum? All in favor of getting back to the SEX portion of the question raise your hand. <_< All others, I am sure there are lots of politically oriented forums to argue on about whether the constitution is out of date and how peaceful and evolved Europians are. (World wars I and II started where again??) Sigh, even a rate thread ..... kidding.

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1 hour ago, Doug28 said:

Same old nonsense.  Antigunners want a one size fits all. I'm a responsible gun owner and sportsman

You may not know it or believe it but my kind are the good guys. 

I believe you. But one size fits all is what we have now. Because of Heller and its progeny McDonald  (which struck down Chicago and Oak Park"s gun regsurban metropolitan areas are left with very little they can do. The 2nd amendment makes no distinction between New York and North Dakota, sees no difference between Denver and Rifle (pun intended).

Repeal of the 2nd amendment would allow states and municipalities to choose what laws work for them. 

Here's a scenario for you: You're in your car stopped at a light at 13th and Broadway at 10:00pm on a Saturday nite. You get rear ended; not bad enough to send anybody to the hospital or set off an airbag but some sheetmetal got munched. You see the driver behind you in your reaview get out of their car; they look like maybe they have something in their hand. Is your gun in your glovebox? Do you reach for it before you get out of your car?

Even Tombstone said don't bring your guns to town.

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17 minutes ago, gr8owl said:

Is this a gun forum? All in favor of getting back to the SEX portion of the question raise your hand. <_< 

Fair enough. Let me report that it was impossible to buy either sex or a gun in Denver on Sunday afternoon Mother's Day. :cool:

Gotta remember to plan ahead.

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4 minutes ago, Raoul said:

Fair enough. Let me report that it was impossible to buy either sex or a gun in Denver on Sunday afternoon Mother's Day. :cool:

Gotta remember to plan ahead.

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I'm a fan of both.  I'm a law abiding gun owner that is contemplating the illegal pursuit of some serious fun in the sheets with one of these amazing providers. However, I prefer that LE spent more time removing the illegal guns from criminals than I would for them to be pursuing consenting adults, seeking adult activities under whatever terms they agree to. 

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22 minutes ago, gr8owl said:

Is this a gun forum? All in favor of getting back to the SEX portion of the question raise your hand. <_< All others, I am sure there are lots of politically oriented forums to argue on about whether the constitution is out of date and how peaceful and evolved Europians are. (World wars I and II started where again??) Sigh, even a rate thread ..... kidding.

Nope.  But this is still a better argument than with most my gun-advocate friends.  Their argument is usually "second amendment. 'Murica." So, this is still a much better conversation. :cool:

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Why cant we have BOTH? What's hotter than a brunette (in my opinion) shooting a M16? 

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8 hours ago, daaacz said:

This whole argument would be easier if someone could find some facts.  When I Google about it, I only see information posted by people with a vested interest. That information is super inconsistent.  Fox News states that conceal-and-carry laws lower the crime rate while Huffing Post says they increase crime. There are lots of unsubstantiated facts put out there on websites that are obviously created by gun lovers-or-haters, but there's no good way for me to know which of the facts are true and which aren't. 

How many people do you know--I mean really know personally who you talk to on a regular basis--who have stopped violence with a gun? Personally, I don't know any. I do, however, know several people who have been shot. They run the gamut from those carrying legal firearms to criminals carrying illegal guns to innocent bystanders. In all of these instances, the violence happened so fast that there was no time to react. In my experience, carrying a gun might make some people feel safe, but rarely are they able to defend themselves from real and true violence.

Most gun advocates I know just seem very afraid. If you don't put yourself in harm's way, you will almost surely be fine. Yes, there idiots who shoot up movie theaters or climb bell towers to take shots at innocents but these EXTREMELY RARE occurrences.The media really loves to hype these atrocities--to get ratings or, I suspect, just to have something more important to talk about than the weather--so it feels like they happen all the time. But, in reality, you will probably never be exposed to anything even close. I just don't get it.  What are you so afraid of, people?

 

Wow.  I really went off on a rant there. I don't even consider myself that passionate about this subject. What just happened?

 

No problem with what you just stated, and in many instances you are correct. You do not want to own a gun, I get that. They don't make you feel any safer, I get that too. I know personally 3 people who have a legal concealed carry that were able to defend their homes and protect their family. None of them had to fire a shot. No lives were taken. As a matter of fact when they pulled they were on the phone with the local LE (I will not name them) Think about that. What if all they had were a cell phone, how do you think it would have turned out just dialing 911? Probably not so good I'm thinking. LE seems to show up 15 minutes (if you're lucky) after it's all over.

So in my point, if guns make you feel uncomfortable, by all means do not own one, but don't tell me I can not be a responsible owner/target shooter/range junkie/or a teacher of responsible handling to my family. Because sometimes a cell phone is not enough. When trouble comes knocking at your front door you will wish you were prepared. I wish you the best and that you'll never need to be a gun owner. I really wish that for everyone. The problem is the bad guys are usually armed and looking for trouble, and I feel I have to counter that, thanks to the second amendment I have that choice. 

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8 hours ago, daaacz said:

Nope.  But this is still a better argument than with most my gun-advocate friends.  Their argument is usually "second amendment. 'Murica." So, this is still a much better conversation. :cool:

HAHA!

I get that too bro!

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16 hours ago, gr8owl said:

Is this a gun forum? All in favor of getting back to the SEX portion of the question raise your hand. <_< All others, I am sure there are lots of politically oriented forums to argue on about whether the constitution is out of date and how peaceful and evolved Europians are. (World wars I and II started where again??) Sigh, even a rate thread ..... kidding.

Amen. 

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54 minutes ago, daaacz said:

Nope.  I'll never tell others how to live their lives. We can all have our opinions and express them openly. That's what truly makes this country great (unlike what some wealthy, orange political candidates might tell you).

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<queue patriotic music: "God Bless America" or something like that>

I totally respect your right to own a gun, even if I don't totally approve of it and I'm even glad it makes you feel secure. The same goes with all of the hot button issues in politics. Buy your guns. Smoke weed. Sleep with who you want. Get a sex change and crap in whatever restroom you want. Get an abortion if you need to. Some of these I don't approve of or wish they weren't necessary and others I don't care about at all.  If you aren't doing harm to me and mine, though, I'll stay out of it. Enjoy your life, but respect mine in the process. That's all I ask and I'll treat you the same.

 

...and to answer the original question: SEX. Legalizing P4P might make it safer and cheaper and could reduce instances of the "T" word.  Maybe. If it's done right.

 

LOL cheaper is definitely not the goal.

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43 minutes ago, Lucy Kitten said:

LOL cheaper is definitely not the goal.

Not for you. ;)

A lot of time and money is spent skirting the law. If it were legal, though, it might be cheaper for you to operate which would reduce the price for me and increase the profit for you. This is a perfect-world scenario.  In reality, they would probably tax the hell out of us both.

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14 hours ago, daaacz said:

Nope.  I'll never tell others how to live their lives. We can all have our opinions and express them openly. That's what truly makes this country great (unlike what some wealthy, orange political candidates might tell you).

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/4109647/american-flag-o.gif

<queue patriotic music: "God Bless America" or something like that>

I totally respect your right to own a gun, even if I don't totally approve of it and I'm even glad it makes you feel secure. The same goes with all of the hot button issues in politics. Buy your guns. Smoke weed. Sleep with who you want. Get a sex change and crap in whatever restroom you want. Get an abortion if you need to. Some of these I don't approve of or wish they weren't necessary and others I don't care about at all.  If you aren't doing harm to me and mine, though, I'll stay out of it. Enjoy your life, but respect mine in the process. That's all I ask and I'll treat you the same.

 

...and to answer the original question: SEX. Legalizing P4P might make it safer and cheaper and could reduce instances of the "T" word.  Maybe. If it's done right.

 

I like your line of thinking.I respect your line of thinking as well, and agree with it.

Yes I'm as well a big fan of legalization too.

Thanks for taking the time to read my previous rant and understanding it, I appreciate it greatly.

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