Careful with your info, gentlemen

[Buddy Glass]

Even if you trust the lady, you never know who's going to end up with the list in the end.

Edited March 30, 2016 by Buddy Glass

[Guest]

This doesn't surprise me at all. There is always someone out there who loves to sabotage people lives. 

Providers should never show there face or there tattoos. I learned this the hard way. I thought by coming into this game being honest was the route to go. I had no idea what I was in for. I thought by being honest was the route to go. Thankfully, I don't lie about what I do.

Clients should never tell anyone who they really are. Do not ever give your state ID. There are many other ways to screen a client without all this bullshit. 

In this business, some people are down right mean, evil, hurtful, full of revenge, don't care if they sabotage your life, they will do all sorts of nasty thing to you. Don't become friends with anyone in this business either, no one can be trusted ever. 

Remember your committing a crime why the fuck you tell anyone who really are? People who are in the business of "sabotaging people lives" deserve to bleed it out. They are useless in life. 

Edited March 30, 2016 by Nikki Holiday

[pfunk]

Pffft. The list, that he wants to release, is over 9 years old. Doesn't sound relevant to me.

Between Buddy and Nikki we got all the Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt, we could ever want! 

[Buddy Glass]

2 hours ago, pfunk said:

Pffft. The list, that he wants to release, is over 9 years old. Doesn't sound relevant to me.

Between Buddy and Nikki we got all the Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt, we could ever want! 

You're so brave, pfunk. You're probably my hero. Maybe you can change your  boardname to braveheart.  I'm really glad that a girl you saw 9 years ago outing you wouldn't alter your life in any meaningful way today. You're really lucky that way. Some of us have friends, family, professional careers- lives worth living- that an outing would really disrupt no matter how old the list. 

It's odd that a reminder to be careful with one's info sparks a FUD response. It's a great example of how once your info is out there, you can't control where it ends up. Even the provider who collected the info isn't the one in control of it. Are you suggesting we turn over our real names, numbers, and any other info to providers anyway? That sounds like a terribly stupid idea to me, but I'm willing to hear you out while you make a case for it. 

[Guest]

Ok.  I hate to chime in on this because I recognize I sound like a broken record.  I understand Pfunks point, because it DOES make it more difficult for the ladies to screen.  It DOES spread FUD.  And I HAVE met several wonderful ladies who I would trust to take my info to the grave.

BUT. 

I have also met one of the few BSC providers.  They walk among us.  And TOB will not let us post a list of their names.....for reasons with which I mostly agree.

And....if you are not "in the know," you could very easily run into one. Fortunately, I was spared further damage precisely because I HAD FOLLOWED THE ADVICE THAT BUDDY IS LAYING DOWN.

Go look at ECCIES alerts sections in various cities.  You will see it does happen.

Get a P411 or other type of anonymous ID system that will also help the ladies do some research on your history as a client.

 

[ajot]

I'm finally stumbling across another lingo I'm not following: " few BSC providers?"

But absolutely agree that you should keep anon with anon numbers, burner phones, etc.

[Lucy Kitten]

8 minutes ago, Buddy Glass said:

You're so brave, pfunk. You're probably my hero. Maybe you can change your  boardname to braveheart.  I'm really glad that a girl you saw 9 years ago outing you wouldn't alter your life in any meaningful way today. You're really lucky that way. Some of us have friends, family, professional careers- lives worth living- that an outing would really disrupt no matter how old the list. 

It's odd that a reminder to be careful with one's info sparks a FUD response. It's a great example of how once your info is out there, you can't control where it ends up. Even the provider who collected the info isn't the one in control of it. Are you suggesting we turn over our real names, numbers, and any other info to providers anyway? That sounds like a terribly stupid idea to me, but I'm willing to hear you out while you make a case for it. 

It's a really great example of something that is very unlikely to happen to this community directly. Actually it has happened and Hancock was still elected Mayor.  We all saw the booking sheets and there were no lives ruined. In fact some of us had a good laugh because there were numbers on that list we recognized.

You know what has always been really weird to me? The more a guy has at stake and the higher the profile the easier they are to screen. It's the guys who have so much less to lose that are persnickety about screening. That isn't an insult it's the truth in my experience. Higher profile clients tend to do a lot more research before booking.

Your OP was more FUD than cautionary tale. It's a campaign year they're always ugly, this kind of stuff happens. These things happen because the clients are high profile and are seeing a different class of escorts.  The higher the rate the more stringent the screening. An agency or provider that is above the $500 mark doesn't accept anonymity. There is too much money on the table to screw around with dudes who aren't serious. If it's not which candidate has seen hookers it's which candidate sexted his secretary or cheated with the nanny. These guys who throw themselves out there for public scrutiny are bound to have some dirt dug up on them. It's a risk they take.

If anyone around here is running for office or wanting to become a public figure then they should heed the warning. But the guy who works with the masses at a 9-5 doesn't have this sort of risk because it just isn't newsworthy. And this particular case is all about the attention and to be fair it's the attorney not the Madame who is deceased and who knows if this is what she would have done.

Read about the Average Joe in Seattle who is facing felony charges for writing reviews if you really need something to be paranoid about. That is far more likely to happen in this community than making national news with attorney's threatening to out politicians.

[mj76]

5 hours ago, pfunk said:

Pffft. The list, that he wants to release, is over 9 years old. Doesn't sound relevant to me.

Between Buddy and Nikki we got all the Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt, we could ever want! 

Even though the list is 9 years old does not mean the information is not relevant. My employment info, address and phone number has been the same for over 10 years. It's not about fear but protecting your future self. Who knows what any of us will be doing in 5 or 10 years so all of us including providers need to be careful with what we put out there.

1 hour ago, Lucy Kitten said:

 

If anyone around here is running for office or wanting to become a public figure then they should heed the warning. But the guy who works with the masses at a 9-5 doesn't have this sort of risk because it just isn't newsworthy. And this particular case is all about the attention and to be fair it's the attorney not the Madame who is deceased and who knows if this is what she would have done.

I disagree. Like I said above providers and hobbyists need to be very careful with what they put out there whether it be giving someone info or posting to social media sites. It's not just about BSC providers or hobbyists. Employers are really starting to look at the online presence of candidates, our future or current SOs can dig up the info if it's put out there and I wouldn't be surprised if lenders start looking at online activities just as employers are.

[Lucy Kitten]

2 hours ago, Laplace said:

Ok.  I hate to chime in on this because I recognize I sound like a broken record.  I understand Pfunks point, because it DOES make it more difficult for the ladies to screen.  It DOES spread FUD.  And I HAVE met several wonderful ladies who I would trust to take my info to the grave.

BUT. 

I have also met one of the few BSC providers.  They walk among us.  And TOB will not let us post a list of their names.....for reasons with which I mostly agree.

And....if you are not "in the know," you could very easily run into one. Fortunately, I was spared further damage precisely because I HAD FOLLOWED THE ADVICE THAT BUDDY IS LAYING DOWN.

Go look at ECCIES alerts sections in various cities.  You will see it does happen.

Get a P411 or other type of anonymous ID system that will also help the ladies do some research on your history as a client.

 

You understand how certain things make it harder to screen but choose to go along with the behavior that actually does make it harder? That's confusing. There have been several mentions from other ladies and recently about needing more information beyond an OK. It's also contradictory to me to advise those to be wary of the BSC but make ladies totally reliant on each other for references because anonymity is so important.

When you say you have had encounters with the BSC and we should be careful does that mean you are %100 confident that you bear no responsibility in the situation? If you agree that we don't name names couldn't you also agree that vague mentions are kind of in poor taste too? There are tools to utilize if info needs to be shared. ECCIE can be a shit show and the site itself is often as guilty as their users when it comes to what's posted because it's not always controlled. But it's still a resource, they have different tools and sometimes those are needed.

This conversation is going off on a tangent. An attorney threatening to name names is not akin to the BSC. Just another chance for every one to trod out their bitches be crazy anecdotes. We should really all be less worried about the stuff we supposedly do to each other and more concerned with with people like that prick attorney who thinks it's cool to out people because the public deserves to know as it could change the course of the election! Oh the headlines at the expense of this business.

This article could have sparked a whole other conversation. Where is the upset over some dude outing clients for personal gain? The debate over whether or not it's ethical for law makers and presidential candidates to see providers? The conversation about the Madam who killed herself after being charged with a bunch of shit that we all have participated in to some extent? So many ways it could have gone and yet it's still all about how this article which in no way relates to our own community should be a reminder that we have to watch out for the BSC.

[JoDoe27]

This subject seems to come up a lot. I've only been doing this for roughly 5 years, across multiple states, and only once did I ever have anything remotely strange happen. And even then it was a tiny blip. 

So I have to ask; how many of you have DIRECTLY had real issues with privacy, blackmailing, "being outed", or whatever else you want to call it? And if so can you share it? 

 

[pfunk]

43 minutes ago, JoDoe27 said:

This subject seems to come up a lot. I've only been doing this for roughly 5 years, across multiple states, and only once did I ever have anything remotely strange happen. And even then it was a tiny blip. 

So I have to ask; how many of you have DIRECTLY had real issues with privacy, blackmailing, "being outed", or whatever else you want to call it? And if so can you share it? 

 

I think you've hit the nail on the head! In 25 years, I've never been outed, threatened, or blackmailed. I've seen several girls who have subsequently outed someone (I'm sure it was justified in their minds!). I've had more trouble with guys, than the girls.

I don't know the percentage who have been wrongly outed, or threatened, but I suspect it's very low. There are some guys, and girls, who are violent, thieves, liars, and generally bad actors. That info NEEDS to be available, IMHO.

There is a constant barrage of "never give out your information" on this board. It seems like exaggerated paranoia to me. 

[Guest]

Well, I don't believe the two sides of this argument will ever get the other side to accept their position. The "no info" guys are there because they have experienced problems.  On the other hand, the "share info" guys are there because it IS fairly possible to see a few ladies and never run into problems.

I will leave it to the casual observer to decide which course of action is best for themselves.

Meanwhile, guys like me with our grumpity-grump-grump "protect yourselves" message seem to be harshing everybody's buzz.  I hate it when I do that.

So, I'll stop preaching.

[Guest]

12 hours ago, pfunk said:

Pffft. The list, that he wants to release, is over 9 years old. Doesn't sound relevant to me. 

Just because it doesn't affect you, does not mean it will not impact someone else life. You cant speak for the people who are on that list. You don't know who has a wife, girl friend, religious family members, and so on. If you are hooker its unexceptable to sabotage peoples lives. Unless something really really bad happened like rape or murder took place. Otherwise there is no excuses for it. 

Between Buddy and Nikki we got all the Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt, we could ever want! 

Fact of the matter is, it happens all the time. **We recently had provider get outed and also recently have a **client who was robbed at gun point by a hookers. While not all hookers are bad. There are some who will ruin your life. Its happening more often here in Denver. Smart ass comment on, "YO YO YO give out your real information" Smart ass comment off". Playing russian rulet I think not. There are many ways to screen with out getting personal information. I do it all the time. The most stupidest thing you ever do is give out your personal information while committing a crime. How smart is that. Why the fuck you wanna give that out to someone who might use it to hold over your head? Does that even sound logical? No it doesn't. If someone wants all your info.... move on to next hooker in line. 

Fact of the matter is "I am 100% right."  I have the balls to stand by my comments, and back them up. I have done just that with some gents in private. I don't care what other people think either, or how much criticism or flack I get for it either.  I encourage both providers and clients to NEVER give out there information. 

Let me just say this for anyone (not referring to Pfunk specifically, this is anyone in general) Things can change any any given time. You never know who you might piss the fuck off. If you give out your personal information, and you have read this board and seen how many times myself and others have said don't give it out, and yet you did anyway. Please do not post it on here if you get outed and your life going to shit or you lose your job. I will be the first person to say "I told you so." Since you give did not give two shits about protecting your personal identification no body should feel sorry for you. Your the idiot who gave it out like a dumass. 

Whoever it is trying to put this list out there that may ruin peoples lives and there jobs families.....NEEDS TO SHUT THE FUCK UP. 

Protect yourself, thats what P411 and Date-Check is for. Denver even major problems with references here too. Enough said. 

 

Edited March 31, 2016 by Nikki Holiday

[boink36]

1 hour ago, Laplace said:

Well, I don't believe the two sides of this argument will ever get the other side to accept their position. The "no info" guys are there because they have experienced problems.  On the other hand, the "share info" guys are there because it IS fairly possible to see a few ladies and never run into problems.

I will leave it to the casual observer to decide which course of action is best for themselves.

Meanwhile, guys like me with our grumpity-grump-grump "protect yourselves" message seem to be harshing everybody's buzz.  I hate it when I do that.

So, I'll stop preaching.

I won't! any guy who doesn't have enough common sense to protect his personal information shouldn't be playing on the web much less in this hobby. for you new guys, don't give out any personal information you wouldn't feel comfortable putting on the side of an RTD bus.

[JoDoe27]

4 hours ago, Laplace said:

Well, I don't believe the two sides of this argument will ever get the other side to accept their position. The "no info" guys are there because they have experienced problems.  On the other hand, the "share info" guys are there because it IS fairly possible to see a few ladies and never run into problems.

I will leave it to the casual observer to decide which course of action is best for themselves.

Meanwhile, guys like me with our grumpity-grump-grump "protect yourselves" message seem to be harshing everybody's buzz.  I hate it when I do that.

So, I'll stop preaching.

Ok. I agree you should protect yourself. I fall into another category of "no info yet no problems" in that I don't give out personal info and that wasn't because I ever had a problem. I just don't blindly trust strangers on the regular and especially when it comes to damning machinations. Like I said, I keep seeing a ton of posts about exposure yet no one ever seems to have first hand experience. Or with the few instances that have cropped up mentioned things going south really only sort of alluded to it with "BSC" being the choice acronym for the lady but still extremely light on details of what transpired.

Again, I completely agree you should not be careless with deep personal information; however, it can be hard for everyone to get on board with or even understand your line of thinking when there's only scant rumblings of such things happening. A well thought out firsthand account can go a long way. 

So again I ask, have any of you ever personally gone through an ordeal? I have not. Maybe I'm the minority but still worth asking. 

[Guest]

54 minutes ago, JoDoe27 said:

s. Like I said, I keep seeing a ton of posts about exposure yet no one ever seems to have first hand experience.

I am one of the many.... All you have to do is read all the post on TOB for the past 2years the numbers of outings a huge.

I have been outed online 74 times online,I have been outed online with a false HIV posting.I have been outed with my real name online.  This makes 75 times. 

Not counting the time where I was threatened to comply by midnight or else. When I refused not comply hookers showed up at my innocent 21 year old daughters place of employment for harassment. They will even go after your family members, espually the one who have nothing to do with hobby. They will go after there jobs, your too if they can. They will also take your pictures and post them online and claim they own them when the do not. This is nothing, I seen where cps has been called. And far much worse has done to together. 

Now, I'm not going to comment any futher I will send you pm. There is no need to post here.

 

 

 

 

Edited March 31, 2016 by Nikki Holiday

[Guest]

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Edited March 31, 2016 by Nikki Holiday

[Guest]

I respect the way that people are, and how they run their business.  

 

All I can say is that in 12 years of doing this, I have never been outed, or seen anyone outed.  Maybe that's what makes us so lax, we haven't been affected.  But my regular people in El paso and now even 1 person here in Denver know so much about me, they could  destroy me.  But I carry faith that I'm a great person and never had some be vengeful before, I just have to hope I always stay that way.  

[JoDoe27]

8 hours ago, Nikki Holiday said:

I am one of the many.... All you have to do is read all the post on TOB for the past 2years the numbers of outings a huge.

I have been outed online 74 times online,I have been outed online with a false HIV posting.I have been outed with my real name online.  This makes 75 times. 

Not counting the time where I was threatened to comply by midnight or else. When I refused not comply hookers showed up at my innocent 21 year old daughters place of employment for harassment. They will even go after your family members, espually the one who have nothing to do with hobby. They will go after there jobs, your too if they can. They will also take your pictures and post them online and claim they own them when the do not. This is nothing, I seen where cps has been called. And far much worse has done to together. 

Now, I'm not going to comment any futher I will send you pm. There is no need to post here.

 

 

 

 

I'm going to respectfully decline that PM. I'm not looking to have to George Costanza style "he named names!!!" black balling. I was more asking for experiences to be shared openly if at all possible instead of whispers and gossips behind closed doors. 

Your post does warrant another question though. If you've had so many issues how much information are you presenting clients and other girls that they're able to cause so much trouble for you? That wasn't shot by any means. I've just seen you mention often about protecting oneself but then say you've experienced almost 100 instances of attack seems...troubling?

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, SpiceInCo said:

I respect the way that people are, and how they run their business.  

 

All I can say is that in 12 years of doing this, I have never been outed, or seen anyone outed.  Maybe that's what makes us so lax, we haven't been affected.  But my regular people in El paso and now even 1 person here in Denver know so much about me, they could  destroy me.  But I carry faith that I'm a great person and never had some be vengeful before, I just have to hope I always stay that way.  

In Denver being a nice person doesn't mean anything. 

Iv seen the most sweetest provider's get outed and get bullied until they where forced to move out of state of Colorado.

Another provider was threatened just because she visited another hookers "terrority" that she claims hers. Now its more like a gang claiming terrority.

I have a Denver provider who claims the terrority of Kansas MO. Apparently when I visit that city I'm following her LMFAO. It was posted on Twiter. I have a copy of it. Sarcasm on "Im not allowed to tour other cities!!!!! Its her "terrority." This is dumb shit I ever heard. But it happens all the time. lol  

[Guest]

32 minutes ago, JoDoe27 said:

I'm going to respectfully decline that PM. I'm not looking to have to George Costanza style "he named names!!!" black balling. I was more asking for experiences to be shared openly if at all possible instead of whispers and gossips behind closed doors. 

Your post does warrant another question though. If you've had so many issues how much information are you presenting clients and other girls that they're able to cause so much trouble for you? That wasn't shot by any means. I've just seen you mention often about protecting oneself but then say you've experienced almost 100 instances of attack seems...troubling?

Thats ok, all you have to do is read the last two years of postings, instead of asking us to re-post it. You figure out how many people have been outed. You can also read ECCIE Alerts posted from the guys showing what has happened to them at their employers, when the provider shows up at your house and talks to the wife. This will give plenty of information. Good luck. 

Edited March 31, 2016 by Nikki Holiday

[JoDoe27]

41 minutes ago, Nikki Holiday said:

Thats ok, all you have to do is read the last two years of postings, instead of asking us to re-post it. You figure out how many people have been outed. You can also read ECCIE Alerts posted from the guys showing what has happened to them at their employers, when the provider shows up at your house and talks to the wife. This will give plenty of information. Good luck. 

Your response is part of the problem. No one finds it troubling, odd, or just not quite right that with all the Chicken Little-ing of this particular subject the moment it’s called to task in an open forum I’m met with a PM, told to check another site all together, or expected to research TOB archives. I’m not asking for 411 on a woman to see if she’s legit or the service she may have offered so there should be no "research” involved. The frequency in which it’s brought up would make anyone new to the site think it’s an almost daily occurrence accompanied with DIRECT, PERSONAL references and examples readily visible and provided. I’M NOT ASKING FOR NAME DROPS. I really want to be clear on that. I’m just asking that people share in their experiences and should none come up then I’m going to assume of the following…

1.) They’re too embarrassed to tell the story which I fully understand. 
2.) They’re no longer active in the hobby so the “call to arms” is never heard rather than falling on deaf ears.
3.) The shit just ain’t happening as often as it’s mentioned.

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, JoDoe27 said:

 I’M NOT ASKING FOR NAME DROPS. I really want to be clear on that. I’m just asking that people share in their experiences and should none come up then I’m going to assume of the following…
 

I wasn't going to give you list of name drops. But see that is what happens when you assume what someone is going to do. I never offered you name drops either. Because I don't have to. I actually have copied every link on TOB/Eccie for the past 5 years of outings where clients and providers have posted that something really bad happen to them here in Denver. I let that speak for its self with out the name drops. But you don't need the links. Do your own research therefore no one needs to share. Its already posted for you to read. Good to you. I wish you the best. 

Edited March 31, 2016 by Nikki Holiday

[Guest]

You have new mongers now freaked the hell out.  One even admitted yesterday that because of all the FUD he is scared to meet with a provider  because he doesn't want to go through their screening.  Good lord, being a hooker and a John is scary business these days..........

 

I don't understand how 2 states away things can be so dramatically different.  This whole mess has caused me just to want to go UTR, not because I'm scared of being outed but because the CONSTANT drama and fear mongering on here.  It's daily and it's old. It's brought up in every 4th post.  

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, SpiceInCo said:

You have new mongers now freaked the hell out.  One even admitted yesterday that because of all the FUD he is scared to meet with a provider  because he doesn't want to go through their screening.  Good lord, being a hooker and a John is scary business these days..........

All he has to do is pay attention, and play his cards right without giving out his personal information. I am not the only person on this form who tells people to not give out there personal information. So you cant blame me alone. The reason I am recommending do not give your info is based on my own personal experience, what I have personally watched other peoples become lives become sabotaged.

If he doesn't know how to create a Hobby Name, Hobby Phone, Hobby Email, and apply for P411 account thats his problem.  Perhaps he has to much to lose and decide not get give his information. Thats his choice. 

I don't understand how 2 states away things can be so dramatically different. This whole mess has caused me just to want to go UTR, not because I'm scared of being outed but because the CONSTANT drama and fear mongering on here.  It's daily and it's old. It's brought up in every 4th post. 

This bad behavior is becoming so common now its hitting the news media. All you have to do is goole it. 

 

Edited March 31, 2016 by Nikki Holiday

[JoDoe27]

21 minutes ago, Nikki Holiday said:

I wasn't going to give you list of name drops. But see that is what happens when you assume what someone is going to do. I never offered you name drops either. Because I don't have to. I actually have copied every link on TOB/Eccie for the past 5 years of outings where clients and providers have posted that something really bad happen to them here in Denver. I let that speak for its self with out the name drops. But you don't need the links. Do your own research therefore no one needs to share. Its already posted for you to read. Good to you. I wish you the best. 

I'll give you that I made an assumption of what you were going to provide. That much I'll concede.

With that being said, post the links you just mentioned in this forum in your next reply. It shouldn't be a secret, correct? If you have it then share it for all to see. Whatever you were going to PM me should be easily shareable for the masses. 

[Lucy Kitten]

10 hours ago, JoDoe27 said:

Ok. I agree you should protect yourself. I fall into another category of "no info yet no problems" in that I don't give out personal info and that wasn't because I ever had a problem. I just don't blindly trust strangers on the regular and especially when it comes to damning machinations. Like I said, I keep seeing a ton of posts about exposure yet no one ever seems to have first hand experience. Or with the few instances that have cropped up mentioned things going south really only sort of alluded to it with "BSC" being the choice acronym for the lady but still extremely light on details of what transpired.

Again, I completely agree you should not be careless with deep personal information; however, it can be hard for everyone to get on board with or even understand your line of thinking when there's only scant rumblings of such things happening. A well thought out firsthand account can go a long way. 

So again I ask, have any of you ever personally gone through an ordeal? I have not. Maybe I'm the minority but still worth asking. 

 

"I just don't blindly trust strangers on the regular and especially when it comes to damning machinations." That's the catch, providers don't really want to do that either. But the witch hunts make it harder on all of us.

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, SpiceInCo said:

  This whole mess has caused me just to want to go UTR, not because I'm scared of being outed but because the CONSTANT drama and fear mongering on here.  It's daily and it's old. It's brought up in every 4th post.  

Yep! The constant barrage of FUD lately on TOB is exhausting!

We are in the hobby of mutual respect and privacy, dammit! Mind your own damn business and have respect for each other.

We all know sometimes providers out other providers, clients out providers, and providers out clients.

Look at the stats and the huge numbers of this business world wide. Outings are a tiny fraction, oh so tiny of the bad that can occur.

How about we all focus on, "How awesome most of us are!!"

Can I suggest TOB have a FUD section?? If someone wants to subject themselves to it, they can dive right in. Let the rest of us play in peace!!

It is a real boner killer

[Guest]

3 hours ago, JoDoe27 said:

I'm going to respectfully decline that PM. I'm not looking to have to George Costanza style "he named names!!!" black balling. I was more asking for experiences to be shared openly if at all possible instead of whispers and gossips behind closed doors. 

Your post does warrant another question though. If you've had so many issues how much information are you presenting clients and other girls that they're able to cause so much trouble for you? That wasn't shot by any means. I've just seen you mention often about protecting oneself but then say you've experienced almost 100 instances of attack seems...troubling?

RIGHT?! Good for you for not partaking in the childish bullshit. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, SpiceInCo said:

You have new mongers now freaked the hell out.  One even admitted yesterday that because of all the FUD he is scared to meet with a provider  because he doesn't want to go through their screening.  Good lord, being a hooker and a John is scary business these days..........

 

I don't understand how 2 states away things can be so dramatically different.  This whole mess has caused me just to want to go UTR, not because I'm scared of being outed but because the CONSTANT drama and fear mongering on here.  It's daily and it's old. It's brought up in every 4th post.  

One pos fud can cause such drama. Put that shit on ignore, let's have some and make some duckets!