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Am I jerk if I don't perform DATY?

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3 minutes ago, Just Jos said:

I know, I'm a woman that should explain that  

And YIKES. That's what I get for opening my big mouth 😂 It's best I stick to opening my vagina. 🖕🏼 Lol.

Stick to what your area of expertise is!  Never support a troll! :-)

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10 minutes ago, Hvnaball2 said:

Now that sounds more like it! :):):)

And, yes, I'll definitely stick my tongue in it!!!

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7 minutes ago, 41SM said:

You shouldn't apologize for saying something that everyone knows is the truth. Deep down, all of these contrarians know that we're right.   

Did I say sorry somewhere? Perhaps my apology is somewhere off with all those fucks I do not give 🙃 

Ciao 💋

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11 minutes ago, Riggo said:

Stick to what your area of expertise is!  Never support a troll! :-)

That's a trollish comment. You may as well have said "stick to sucking dick"  

i guess what I say to you is --stuck to paying for pussy. Cause you'll never get it for free 😝 

And Call me 🙊

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1 minute ago, Just Jos said:

That's a trollish comment. You may as well have said "stick to sucking dick"  

i guess what I say to you is --stuck to paying for pussy. Cause you'll never get it for free 😝 

And Call me 🙊

I would love to give you reputation for that post, but sadly I ran out... Well played beautiful lady! :-)

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3 minutes ago, Riggo said:

I would love to give you reputation for that post, but sadly I ran out... Well played beautiful lady! :-)

Thanks for having a god damned sense of humor! 👍🏽 😘 

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3 minutes ago, Just Jos said:

Thanks for having a god damned sense of humor! 👍🏽 😘 

Can you hold these wonderful posts until I have my full allotment of reputation giving?  A sense of humor is just about all I have left to offer. ;-)

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5 minutes ago, Riggo said:

Can you hold these wonderful posts until I have my full allotment of reputation giving?  A sense of humor is just about all I have left to offer. ;-)

Save your Rep. A measly 💰💰💰💰 and your wit is plenty. 🙀 

Alright, I've made a big enough ass outta myself. Signing out 💜 

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It does not offend me, Im very sensitive down there & would much rather rub myself against you lol

mabe big clits are just more sensitive.

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1 hour ago, Riggo said:

Stick to what your area of expertise is!  Never support a troll! :-)

Riggo is wasting money. There are all sorts of Eleanor Rigby types out there that will talk to him for free. Hell, you can even hire cuddle buddies if he wants to be someone's teddy bear. I genuinely feel bad for him if he isn't here for the sex; it means he must feel extremely isolated and socially ostracized from society. If he's dropping $300 for an hour of conversatoin and false affirmation he obviously is very lonely.  I'm glad there are women that have compassion in their hearts who are willing to lend an ear to people who are socially and culturally alienated; I understand that for some people life is a lonely labyrinth. Riggo is completely delusional though if he thinks that he isn't an extreme outlier. 99.9% of the men involved in this hobby are looking for sex, not conversation. 99% of the women are looking for money, not new friendships.  

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Okay, okay- people we are branding this guy a troll because his fifth post was on the offensive side. I don't particularly like to form a cut and dried opinion of someone based on one thing they have said. So I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he was just trying to convey his uninformed  opinion in a entertaining way.  I appreciate the fact that as a new guy he can write a post and is willing to throw himself out here to the cartel that we call us. But I cannot just brand him a troll based on this post of his. So I reserve my opinion at this time. I just hope he has learned something from this. That we are not all "drug addicted, street walker, thug -types". And if he still doesn't want to eat pussy from here,  that is his prerogative. It is NOT a prerequisite.  We get all types of clients. Some just want to get on , get off, get out. Others want to meet a human female have fun for an hour or two, then leave. I am fine with both types and don't let the first type bother me. But it is too soon to brand the op a troll. He has to prove that and 5 posts just don't do it. So  with his fifth post I would like to extend my true welcome to him. 

I have learned a lot about the human psyche while being in this trade. Sometimes a little empathy can go a long ways. So welcome to TOB , Mr. Welcome Me. You have found the bell curve here.

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15 minutes ago, 41SM said:
4 minutes ago, Jez UaBriain said:

Okay, okay- people we are branding this guy a troll because his fifth post was on the offensive side. I don't particularly like to form a cut and dried opinion of someone based on one thing they have said. So I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he was just trying to convey his uninformed  opinion in a entertaining way.  I appreciate the fact that as a new guy he can write a post and is willing to throw himself out here to the cartel that we call us. But I cannot just brand him a troll based on this post of his. So I reserve my opinion at this time. I just hope he has learned something from this. That we are not all "drug addicted, street walker, thug -types". And if he still doesn't want to eat pussy from here,  that is his prerogative. It is NOT a prerequisite.  We get all types of clients. Some just want to get on , get off, get out. Others want to meet a human female have fun for an hour or two, then leave. I am fine with both types and don't let the first type bother me. But it is too soon to brand the op a troll. He has to prove that and 5 posts just don't do it. So  with his fifth post I would like to extend my true welcome to him. 

I have learned a lot about the human psyche while being in this trade. Sometimes a little empathy can go a long ways. So welcome to TOB , Mr. Welcome Me. You have found the bell curve here.

Jez, I believe it was his first post, not his 5th...

 

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I can't speak for Riggo, but the mantra of $s for time is not always a fiction. I have had sexless dates where the lady in question has been compensated for her time.  No, not exactly $300/hr, but compensated. We're these 1st dates? Hell no. These were YL I'd seen many time over years and developed a relationship which was more than 'between the sheets' . Besides, there is more to life than sex. 

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20 minutes ago, 41SM said:

Riggo is wasting money. There are all sorts of Eleanor Rigby types out there that will talk to him for free. Hell, you can even hire cuddle buddies if he wants to be someone's teddy bear. I genuinely feel bad for him if he isn't here for the sex; it means he must feel extremely isolated and socially ostracized from society. If he's dropping $300 for an hour of conversatoin and false affirmation he obviously is very lonely.  I'm glad there are women that have compassion in their hearts who are willing to lend an ear to people who are socially and culturally alienated; I understand that for some people life is a lonely labyrinth. Riggo is completely delusional though if he thinks that he isn't an extreme outlier. 99.9% of the men involved in this hobby are looking for sex, not conversation. 99% of the women are looking for money, not new friendships.  

Already said I was an anomaly... What more do I need to say?  Never asked you to feel bad for me.  I am completely happy where I stand today!  Thanks for your concern!

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2 hours ago, 41SM said:

You shouldn't apologize for saying something that everyone knows is the truth. Deep down, all of these contrarians know that we're right.   

What a sad, sad, sad man. I hope someday you meet the providers who are my friends, and some of the guys, as well. I'm certain it would cheer you up, old son! Have a better night! :)

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Pfunk, does this guy remind of the old Demuremormon posts?  Reincarnation maybe?

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1 hour ago, 41SM said:
1 minute ago, petey-9950 said:

Pfunk, does this guy remind of the old Demuremormon posts?  Reincarnation maybe?

Riggo is wasting money. There are all sorts of Eleanor Rigby types out there that will talk to him for free. Hell, you can even hire cuddle buddies if he wants to be someone's teddy bear. I genuinely feel bad for him if he isn't here for the sex; it means he must feel extremely isolated and socially ostracized from society. If he's dropping $300 for an hour of conversatoin and false affirmation he obviously is very lonely.  I'm glad there are women that have compassion in their hearts who are willing to lend an ear to people who are socially and culturally alienated; I understand that for some people life is a lonely labyrinth. Riggo is completely delusional though if he thinks that he isn't an extreme outlier. 99.9% of the men involved in this hobby are looking for sex, not conversation. 99% of the women are looking for money, not new friendships.  

Could be 2Big as well...

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It's not 2Big style way to many words and explanation.  2Big gets to the point, no glossiness with him like this guy portrays.  This guy is a real tool. 

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20 minutes ago, petey-9950 said:

Pfunk, does this guy remind of the old Demuremormon posts?  Reincarnation maybe?

Naw, DM would be all about getting his for free. 

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Bit. Love it, lol and spitting out the Dr. Pepper on my key board.  Maybe this guy is headed that way. Where's the popcorn???

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1 hour ago, Riggo said:

Already said I was an anomaly... What more do I need to say?  Never asked you to feel bad for me.  I am completely happy where I stand today!  Thanks for your concern!

People like what they like. Ain't gotta like what everyone else likes. Have fun. 

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41SM is like the Katie Creme of hobbyists. Troll on, dude.

Actually, don't. Go away.

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1 hour ago, Bit Banger said:

Naw, DM would be all about getting his for free. 

And don't forget how he DM) had to tell about how much she liked his prowess in bed.  I always figured he was a bit egocentric and really  in reality was a poor  fuck in bed.   But at times  he could be a entertaining read. In a superficial Harlequin romance novel way. (gag)

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14 hours ago, 41SM said:

I'm not going to lie; the notion that I could be putting my mouth in a location that was recently occupied by multiple penises is quite oft putting. First, some of us ladies have careers outside of this. Not all providers are high volume and do this full time. Some of us don't need the money and the money is a perk. Some us only do this for fun. I fall in this category. Maybe you should try another approach that works for you. Stop purchasing escorts who desire pleasure in return after you get yours.

Your best bet is finding an escort who is married, has a boyfriend, has a sugar daddies, FWB. These girls have someone at home who takes care of there desires. They don't need you. Your the kind of guy they won't want simply because your displaying sexual selfishness. Or find a provider who only does this for money. This means she is happy to take your money, get you off and you can get the fuck out. So simple it complicated. 

Sadly, I've noticed in some recent sessions that ladies have become slightly offended when I've respectfully declined to go down on them.

Ok, let me educate you. Don't be mad at me. But comes the truth. Simply put, they have men who are treating them better than you are. There’s nothing worse than a guy who isn't able to satisfy you in bed because he doesn't seem to know what he’s doing! Or doesn't want want too. Your every girls worst nightmare. A guy who sucks in bed is a guy who has a limited knowledge of how female pleasure works. Or much worse is the oblivious, and think he is a sex god just because he manages to get himself off every time, or he may realize that you’re not being satisfied but choose to ignore it or assume that you are the one with the problem because his ego is just too big to take any sort of responsibility for it. Eventually, you'll get to a point, where you cant even pay a hooker to get laid.

 I never give them my real reasons ( (1) The fear that residual pubes from another man's ball sack forest could end up stuck between my teeth.

This is why I ask you guys to shave or be trimmed. But some escorts are cool with having fur in her mouth. Im not ok with it.

(2)That I could get some type of oral STD that could make some cauliflower like entities grow on my beautiful crimson lips); but I can always tell that they're taken back by my lack of participation.

Anyone who offers oral sex (which is barebacking in the mouth) has the risk of getting STD's and it rare. Maybe you should stop seeing hookers. 

They never verbally tell me I'm a selfish prick/asshole but in their irises I see them screaming "You fucking douchebag! You want me to suck your cock dry but you're too pretentious and selfish to reciprocate huh? You think your dick is clean enough for my mouth but my taint isn't clean enough for yours? This is all about you right motherfucker? My pleasure doesn't mean shit, does it? You basically want Jabba the Hutt style sex;  I'm just supposed to lick your light saber and then lay on my back and let you ram away? My getting off is completely inconsequential!"  This is EXACTLY what they are thinking. At least your not in delial. The one who won't thinks this, are happy to service you take your money you can get fuck the out and hurry up too. Don't stand around. Wait why is taking so long to get the hell out.  :eek:

Am I forever destined to be viewed by ladies in this profession as a jackass of the highest degree if I refuse to go down on them or is there hope for a gentle soul that abstains from cunnilingus? Ladies, if I gracefully stated that I didn't want to go down on you would it offend you and get me blackballed? She won't want to see you again.

Your name will be saved in her phone as "DNS". Do not service this asshole. When she can see many other guys who will grate her better than you.

Should I tell my lips they need not fear the paradise between a woman's legs and start using them to explore the heavenly garden? Are my fears of oral STDs and previous penile occupations irrational? Should I vanquish this phobia from my tender psyche? To suck the clit, or not suck the clit, that is the question. 

 

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11 hours ago, 41SM said:

Is a client required to get the woman off during a session? Is there a tacit agreement between client and provider that the ultimate goal of a session is mutual satisfaction and that every party should ascend to a equally high apex of sexual pleasure? In any type of entertainment venture, where a client is paying a performer for some type of performance or service, is it ever expected that the customer will strive to please the performer in any way? Based on conversations I've had with women, inside and outside the hobby, the notion that one is a "selfish lover" if the don't go down on their partner is ubiquitous. A lot of people think sex should inherently be based on reciprocity; both parties should give as much as they receive. In the context of a relationship this is a cogent argument but in regards to a paid encounter why should the women's pleasure matter at all? A client is paying for the opportunity to receive pleasure, not give it. Some gentlemen might get pleasure from the act of pleasuring but those of us who don't give a shit about a woman getting an orgasm during a paid encounter shouldn't be maligned or made to feel like we are assholes. In the hobby a man is paying for the right to access your pussy; not to be your sex slave. 

 

You're paying for her time and companionship nothing else

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19 minutes ago, MoneyTeam said:

I eat the kitty like a chinese restaurant :P  so you eat it secretly?

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argh
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1 hour ago, Lucy Kitten said:

 

I was think that he was hungry for more an hour later 😛

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This has got to be a new record: newbie posts his first rant, and within 24 hours already has a negative five reputation rating and has gotten into an argument with just about everybody in his endless follow-up rants.

Let's get back to the OP's question:  "Am I a jerk if I don't perform DATY?"

Nah, you're just a jerk in general.

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